This is a laywer's wet dream. They've sued the living daylights out of car companies, tobacco, and drug companies... now they're after new blood. If robots ever get really popular, they'll be suing them next.
Now, don't get me wrong. There are plenty of good reasons to hold car companies, tobacco companies and drug companies accountable for things they've done. It's the lawsuits that happen when those companies did NOTHING wrong.... that ticks me off. (Well what a sec.... I find it a little hard to believe that tobacco companies never did anything wrong...but I digress....then again, this is Slashdot, digression isn't that uncommon).
Lawyers. The only good one is yours. The rest stink.
My guess is that they ran out of old inventory, and just started shipping the upgraded models early. Apple has some sort of announcement scheduled for next week (might be the week after), and it'll probably be announced then.
Just curious, what's the security around places like this? If these guys can hack a virus strain like this, what's the keep someone from stealing the virus and releasing back into the wild?
Rather that turning this into a political farce, for someone that has an axe to grind with this new nominee, let's cut to the chase here, and look at the key phrase in that article:
"Microsoft believed that only people who actually lost data had a right to sue; that those merely with faulty software hadn't been injured."
I hate Microsoft as much of the next guy, but I don't see what's wrong with this. It's basically saying "If you lost data, you can sue. If you didn't, you can't".
Sounds like the people that wanted to sue Microsoft, but didn't have anything go wrong for them, got caught.
Besides, there are plenty of other defects in Microsoft software they probably could have sued for instead.
Wouldn't it have been better to spend all that money to help the bazillion HOMELESS people that are in San Francisco? For a city that promotes itself as being so progressive, they really need to help the homeless folks out there, and Google would make a lot more impact by helping those folks.
You forgot to add property tax (if you own a home), gas tax, food and beverage tax, and probably quite a few others. Probably not 50%, but you pay a lot more taxes than you might think.
I got a call a little while ago from one of those annoying taped messages wanting to let me in on some sort of "special deal" to "make money fast". I'm on the state's do not call list. I went to the state government's website, and they had a form to fill out to register a complaint. I did. A couple of days later, I got a letter from the Attorney General that said they're pursuing it.
That do not call list has been pretty good over all. It's really cut down to number of calls we used to get. Of the few we get, nearly all of them say "we're not trying to sell you anything" during their taped messages.... SUUUUUUURE.
I'm surprised at the number of young engineers who think that the "old guys" don't know anything about the "latest" tech.
A while back I heard an intern going on and on about how the young engineers (and he considered himself one, even though he hadn't graduated yet) were the best ones to come up with the new ideas for everything. The "old guys" just didn't have what it takes.
What a fool.
This isn't a "young" or "old" thing. This is a "good idea" thing. That comes from being a good engineer, not being young or old.
Not every young guy pays attention the latest technology, just like the old guys don't just stick their head in the sand when it comes to the new stuff. As a matter of fact, the older guys were the ones that were dinking around with all that new computer tech back in the day. Most of them did a lot more than the "fresh outs" do today.
If you're one of those guys that believe that the young guys are the stars when it comes to engineering, and the old guys should just step out of the way..... well, you're going to get old too. When that happens, I seriously doubt you'll feel the same way that you do now.
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mainframe programmers? Hell, MOST engineers aren't "master" engineers. Lots of them THINK they are, but most aren't.
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Ha! Don't assume anything is obvious.
You assume that the "old" engineer has no idea about Linux. You also assume that the young engineer has the first clue about what the company really needs.
Both very very bad assumptions.
Experience is the key here. Sure, the younger guy might have a good idea, but spitting buzzwords at the boss without the first clue about what it's ultimately going to mean to the company will do only two things: 1) Peg you as a loudmouth know-it-all or 2) Get you put in charge of making that migration.... Neither of those are going end up pretty.
When YOU get to be an older engineer, sit back and listen to all the younger guys that assume YOU don't have a clue about what's going on. You're not going to like it one bit.
You're making the assumption of a central server for these apps, and that's not a good assumption these days. Multiple servers where the services figure out what you need from where is a much better way to handle things.
The other thing is that you assume that all the processing is going to go to happen on a different machine, and streamed to a web appliance. That might be want Schwartz meant, but assuming that there isn't any data storage on a cheap device isn't a good assumption either. I mean, you can get gigs of storage inexpensively right now, so if it's inexpensive, why not put that on the machine as well...but as a cache, not as your main storage.
The third thing is you can't assume that apps will built the way they are now. Streaming data to a web device the way that's been described is nothing new. X-Terminals did this years ago. There are smarter ways of doing this now.
There are critics inside every organization... I bet there are critics inside Google too. This is nothing new, other than they got some folks inside Microsoft to talk about it.
Wait a while....they'll be writing the same article about Google.
That last comment of yours... You're saying the Bush Administration is to blame for this? For something that's been going on for hundreds of years? What, pray tell, did Clinton do during his time to stop it?
I'm not sure why this surprises anyone. Intel and Microsoft make hefty profits on the products they sell. People can understand the software side of things a bit more easily than the hardware, I guess.
Sure, there's a lot of money poured into product development for Intel, but at the mark-ups they've had it wouldn't take that long to recoup the costs.
The Democrats have a history of this sort of thing though; remember, it was Tipper Gore jawing in front of Congress that got those little "warning" labels on records (yeah, there were still records back them) and CDs.
The only thing that happened was that kids now knew which CDs to go for.
I'm sad to say my state is on the bandwagon, and the charge is being lead by Democrats.
Er, why is it always about politics with some people? It's not like stupid ideas only come from one political party.... And don't anyone say that it's "always" or "mostly" one party, because it's not.
Stupid ideas are pretty universal.
Anyone that's been out in the real world (particularly the business world we all love to complain about), should know that.
When is the last time you saw Liberals kill large amounts of people?
Well, there's that little Communism thing. Pesky, isn't it?
Or they do it by inaction. Look at Rwanda. Clinton sat on his ass while hundreds of thousands of people were butchered. Oh, but that's ok right? No support from the rest of the world? Doing the right thing isn't always easy, and you shouldn't need permission from someone else to do it. That's a lame excuse.
Liberals talk about compassion all the time. But it's all just talk to make themselves feel better. When it comes down to doing something about it, they just hold a protest and walk away feeling better about themselves and their pitiful world view. Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of people are being brutal murdered or repressed. They'd rather have dictators murdering entire ethnic populations than go do something about it. Holding a protest isn't doing something about it. Throwing money at it isn't doing anything about it either. Going in and stopping genocide is doing something. Freeing people from oppressive regimes is doing something about it.
In the midwest, a house that costs about $250K would cost at LEAST $800k in the west (and that's at the extreme low end). That's for a salary drop of between 10-20k.
You get a lot of house for that $250k too. Nice neighborhood, actual yard, 2300 sq ft above ground, finished 1500 SQ FT. basement, two story house, four bedrooms, big kitchen, two car garage, etc. It's been a while since I've been in CA, so I don't know what the going rate is for that kind of house.
And that's in a big city area. If you go to a smaller region, that $250K will buy you a LOT more house even than what I described. With a LOT of land.
A real problem is theater owners don't let ushers do their freakin' job. People with cell phones, people that talk during the movies... the list goes on and on. Back in the day, you did crap like that, the ushers would ask you to step outside. If you didn't, you're out on the street.
Ushers are just there to clean up anymore. I can't blame a 16 year old kid for not wanting to confront a self-righteous patron who is blabbing away on a cell phone or talking during a movie. The kid would get yelled at or worse. No kid needs to deal with that.
Why should we go to the movies if we're going to have to go with a whole bunch of other people that consider the place their own second family room where they can do whatever they please? $30 for that? Screw that.
Unless you've got experience with this sort of thing, get the vendor to do it.
You know how security is...you just miss one single thing, and it's unsecure, and you're screwed. Getting a vendor that knows what they're doing gets this monkey off your back, and it puts the burden on them... if they screw up, they're liable, not you.
I have to disagree with what you're saying here. Since Netscape's IPO, some (well, the ones I've been associated with) have become hypersensitive to technology that can be made into businesses. Just take all the office politics that go on in universities and add money from start-up businesses into the equation, and things can get really really nasty.
University engineers do have a good relaxed life (for the most part). There's almost zero room for advancement though, and that's the biggest complaint I've heard from them, and something they wish they could get like their "real world" counterparts.
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I think you're spot on.
This is a laywer's wet dream. They've sued the living daylights out of car companies, tobacco, and drug companies... now they're after new blood. If robots ever get really popular, they'll be suing them next.
Now, don't get me wrong. There are plenty of good reasons to hold car companies, tobacco companies and drug companies accountable for things they've done. It's the lawsuits that happen when those companies did NOTHING wrong.... that ticks me off. (Well what a sec.... I find it a little hard to believe that tobacco companies never did anything wrong...but I digress....then again, this is Slashdot, digression isn't that uncommon).
Lawyers. The only good one is yours. The rest stink.
My guess is that they ran out of old inventory, and just started shipping the upgraded models early. Apple has some sort of announcement scheduled for next week (might be the week after), and it'll probably be announced then.
What conspiracies? The Army of the Twelve Monkeys reference only refered to the poor security, and that's what I asked about.
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I'm glad that wild speculation about what other people post is alive and well on slashdot. It's one of the few stable things in this world, really.
Just curious, what's the security around places like this? If these guys can hack a virus strain like this, what's the keep someone from stealing the virus and releasing back into the wild?
"She has never been a judge"
Big deal. Neither was Rehnquist before he was put on the court.
They shoot the judges that used to be there, and install new judges.
Rather that turning this into a political farce, for someone that has an axe to grind with this new nominee, let's cut to the chase here, and look at the key phrase in that article:
"Microsoft believed that only people who actually lost data had a right to sue; that those merely with faulty software hadn't been injured."
I hate Microsoft as much of the next guy, but I don't see what's wrong with this. It's basically saying "If you lost data, you can sue. If you didn't, you can't".
Sounds like the people that wanted to sue Microsoft, but didn't have anything go wrong for them, got caught.
Besides, there are plenty of other defects in Microsoft software they probably could have sued for instead.
Wouldn't it have been better to spend all that money to help the bazillion HOMELESS people that are in San Francisco? For a city that promotes itself as being so progressive, they really need to help the homeless folks out there, and Google would make a lot more impact by helping those folks.
You forgot to add property tax (if you own a home), gas tax, food and beverage tax, and probably quite a few others. Probably not 50%, but you pay a lot more taxes than you might think.
I got a call a little while ago from one of those annoying taped messages wanting to let me in on some sort of "special deal" to "make money fast". I'm on the state's do not call list. I went to the state government's website, and they had a form to fill out to register a complaint. I did. A couple of days later, I got a letter from the Attorney General that said they're pursuing it.
That do not call list has been pretty good over all. It's really cut down to number of calls we used to get. Of the few we get, nearly all of them say "we're not trying to sell you anything" during their taped messages.... SUUUUUUURE.
So, what do those people do? Start their own companies? Consult? ....Become....(yeeech)... managers?
I'm surprised at the number of young engineers who think that the "old guys" don't know anything about the "latest" tech.
A while back I heard an intern going on and on about how the young engineers (and he considered himself one, even though he hadn't graduated yet) were the best ones to come up with the new ideas for everything. The "old guys" just didn't have what it takes.
What a fool.
This isn't a "young" or "old" thing. This is a "good idea" thing. That comes from being a good engineer, not being young or old.
Not every young guy pays attention the latest technology, just like the old guys don't just stick their head in the sand when it comes to the new stuff. As a matter of fact, the older guys were the ones that were dinking around with all that new computer tech back in the day. Most of them did a lot more than the "fresh outs" do today.
If you're one of those guys that believe that the young guys are the stars when it comes to engineering, and the old guys should just step out of the way..... well, you're going to get old too. When that happens, I seriously doubt you'll feel the same way that you do now.
mainframe programmers? Hell, MOST engineers aren't "master" engineers. Lots of them THINK they are, but most aren't.
Ha! Don't assume anything is obvious.
You assume that the "old" engineer has no idea about Linux. You also assume that the young engineer has the first clue about what the company really needs.
Both very very bad assumptions.
Experience is the key here. Sure, the younger guy might have a good idea, but spitting buzzwords at the boss without the first clue about what it's ultimately going to mean to the company will do only two things: 1) Peg you as a loudmouth know-it-all or 2) Get you put in charge of making that migration.... Neither of those are going end up pretty.
When YOU get to be an older engineer, sit back and listen to all the younger guys that assume YOU don't have a clue about what's going on. You're not going to like it one bit.
You're making the assumption of a central server for these apps, and that's not a good assumption these days. Multiple servers where the services figure out what you need from where is a much better way to handle things.
The other thing is that you assume that all the processing is going to go to happen on a different machine, and streamed to a web appliance. That might be want Schwartz meant, but assuming that there isn't any data storage on a cheap device isn't a good assumption either. I mean, you can get gigs of storage inexpensively right now, so if it's inexpensive, why not put that on the machine as well...but as a cache, not as your main storage.
The third thing is you can't assume that apps will built the way they are now. Streaming data to a web device the way that's been described is nothing new. X-Terminals did this years ago. There are smarter ways of doing this now.
There are critics inside every organization... I bet there are critics inside Google too. This is nothing new, other than they got some folks inside Microsoft to talk about it.
Wait a while....they'll be writing the same article about Google.
That last comment of yours... You're saying the Bush Administration is to blame for this? For something that's been going on for hundreds of years? What, pray tell, did Clinton do during his time to stop it?
Sorry, but I'm not buying what you're selling.
I'm not sure why this surprises anyone. Intel and Microsoft make hefty profits on the products they sell. People can understand the software side of things a bit more easily than the hardware, I guess.
Sure, there's a lot of money poured into product development for Intel, but at the mark-ups they've had it wouldn't take that long to recoup the costs.
I imagine AMD is doing the exact same thing.
The Democrats have a history of this sort of thing though; remember, it was Tipper Gore jawing in front of Congress that got those little "warning" labels on records (yeah, there were still records back them) and CDs.
The only thing that happened was that kids now knew which CDs to go for.
Er, why is it always about politics with some people? It's not like stupid ideas only come from one political party.... And don't anyone say that it's "always" or "mostly" one party, because it's not.
Stupid ideas are pretty universal.
Anyone that's been out in the real world (particularly the business world we all love to complain about), should know that.
Well, there's that little Communism thing. Pesky, isn't it?
Or they do it by inaction. Look at Rwanda. Clinton sat on his ass while hundreds of thousands of people were butchered. Oh, but that's ok right? No support from the rest of the world? Doing the right thing isn't always easy, and you shouldn't need permission from someone else to do it. That's a lame excuse.
Liberals talk about compassion all the time. But it's all just talk to make themselves feel better. When it comes down to doing something about it, they just hold a protest and walk away feeling better about themselves and their pitiful world view. Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of people are being brutal murdered or repressed. They'd rather have dictators murdering entire ethnic populations than go do something about it. Holding a protest isn't doing something about it. Throwing money at it isn't doing anything about it either. Going in and stopping genocide is doing something. Freeing people from oppressive regimes is doing something about it.
I've lived in the West and the midwest.
In the midwest, a house that costs about $250K would cost at LEAST $800k in the west (and that's at the extreme low end). That's for a salary drop of between 10-20k.
You get a lot of house for that $250k too. Nice neighborhood, actual yard, 2300 sq ft above ground, finished 1500 SQ FT. basement, two story house, four bedrooms, big kitchen, two car garage, etc. It's been a while since I've been in CA, so I don't know what the going rate is for that kind of house.
And that's in a big city area. If you go to a smaller region, that $250K will buy you a LOT more house even than what I described. With a LOT of land.
A real problem is theater owners don't let ushers do their freakin' job. People with cell phones, people that talk during the movies... the list goes on and on. Back in the day, you did crap like that, the ushers would ask you to step outside. If you didn't, you're out on the street.
Ushers are just there to clean up anymore. I can't blame a 16 year old kid for not wanting to confront a self-righteous patron who is blabbing away on a cell phone or talking during a movie. The kid would get yelled at or worse. No kid needs to deal with that.
Why should we go to the movies if we're going to have to go with a whole bunch of other people that consider the place their own second family room where they can do whatever they please? $30 for that? Screw that.
Unless you've got experience with this sort of thing, get the vendor to do it.
You know how security is...you just miss one single thing, and it's unsecure, and you're screwed. Getting a vendor that knows what they're doing gets this monkey off your back, and it puts the burden on them... if they screw up, they're liable, not you.
I have to disagree with what you're saying here. Since Netscape's IPO, some (well, the ones I've been associated with) have become hypersensitive to technology that can be made into businesses. Just take all the office politics that go on in universities and add money from start-up businesses into the equation, and things can get really really nasty.
University engineers do have a good relaxed life (for the most part). There's almost zero room for advancement though, and that's the biggest complaint I've heard from them, and something they wish they could get like their "real world" counterparts.