And what if a security vulnerability is found in the LDAP features of samba? You may not be using them, but they will still be loaded because they're compiled in. Also, to enable LDAP support in samba you need various ldap libraries installed, wasting even more space and providing new places for security holes to be found.
Here's another example, i tried to install pine on a redhat box fairly recently... Pine has optional support for kerberos, which on redhat is turned on, so i had to install a whole stack of kerberos libs before i could install pine. The telnet client also supported kerberos as well as various other things, which meant it tried to authenticate to kerberos on each connection (which took a few seconds to time out) before defaulting back to normal operation. On gentoo, i build pine without kerberos
So your content to use the old drivers, with the old version of X, on the old kernel... The drivers still need to be updated to support other aspects of the system that they are tied to. I have an old FireGL card, for which there are only drivers available for xfree86 4.2.0 on x86, rendering the card rather useless.
How soon before this comes out in Europe? All mobile networks in europe are GSM, and our denser population means the coverage is a lot better.
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There were several free TCP stacks for windows and macos, and those that were non-free didn't have such ridiculous 30 minute timeouts on them, neither did the applications. mIRC - a popular windows irc client, is still shareware but it doesn't stop you from using it by disconnecting you after 30 minutes. Netscape had a paid for version, but the free version was still fully functional
If your going to end up supporting someone anyway, then you may as well give them linux... Explaining a commandline procedure over the phone is much easier than explaining a graphical procedure, a commandline is similar to a conversation, you say something (type a command) and the computer says something back (output), just like a telephone conversation. Trying to debug a graphical program without being able to see the interface itself is a lot harder. And then there's always SSH.
The T1000 only has a single FPU per chip, while having 8 integer execution units... If your workload is FTP based, then the T1000 is a poor choice. That said, anything integer based should blow away a sparcserver 1000. The 4 core being faster than an 8-core is in memory intensive tasks, where the fact that all 8 cores share a single connection to memory is the bottleneck.
No, it's a combination of both... What your thinking of, is the fact that most RISC chips haven't been so heavily developed as x86 have in recent years... Back when RISC was fashionable, RISC chips were regularly running at much higher clock rates than the x86 chips of the time, and had a higher IPC rate too, consider the Alpha which ran at 200mhz in 1992.
Well, you shouldn't teach kids a particular package, rather teach them the concept of a word processor. When these kids grow up, they will almost certainly find that the programs available to them or being used at places where they work, are completely different to what they used in school, especially since schools typically have computers that are a few years out of date anyway. As an example, we had wordperfect for dos at our school.
With either format, you will need to convert your old files so there is no direct compatibility, the old file will be converted into a representation of itself stored in the new format. The difference is, MS's format includes specific tags telling it to emulate the buggy behaviour of older programs, for instance:
mwSmallCaps (Emulate Word 5.x for the Macintosh Small Caps Formatting) This basically says, that word 5.x for mac had buggy handling of small caps that caused them to be even smaller than they should normally appear, and so when opening such a file recent versions of word will emulate that behaviour, and store this setting in the document so it's retained when you open it again. ODF on the other hand, does not have piles of kludgy tags like this, because the format is not the place for it. Instead, whatever program is responsible for opening the file, when it sees a word 5.x for mac file can simply reduce the font size of the small caps to match what word 5.x would have done and save the file as ODF like that. That way, you don't bloat the format with stupid things like that, you just use the existing and standard functions for defining font sizes.
Any network game depends on what other networking equipment you have... And especially with wireless, you are subject to lots of factors including your routing equipment, other traffic on the network, interference from other sources, walls blocking the signals etc. At my parents house, wireless works terribly... You can browse the web and all seems normal, but anything interactive becomes unuseable, ssh sessions stall every few minutes.
Their internal documentation seems to be rather poor, witness the laughable ability of ms publisher to open and save word documents... It garbles them badly, and makes a much worse job of it than openoffice does. It seems that they just keep the original office codebase going and carefully add to it trying not to break anything.
If you leave a process running in the background consuming 100% of your cpu all the time, like setiathome or distributed.net, then your system won't get hotter, rather it will just be processing something else to load the cpu and still generating the same amount of heat.
How old are the G3 macs? I had a 350MHz G3 that ran OSX just fine, 10.3.x went on easily and 10.4.x just needed me to hook up a DVD reader (since the system, being so old, didnt have one by default).
The barrier to entry for creating an OS is not high, there are plenty of existing OS's you can build upon... Witness Apple and the technologies they leverages in building OSX. You can even get a complete set of applications for your new OS by porting existing open source applications. The difficulty is getting anyone to use your OS, getting commercial vendors to port their proprietary applications to it, and providing compatibility with proprietary file formats and protocols that other people might be using.
Do you reallt think the goatse trolls will bother using these tags if they're going to decrease their chances of getting people to follow the links?
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And for your information, i was buying amiga hardware, and software while it was sensibly priced... I was still in school when the amiga was popular, and we never had that much money... My parents bought me an amiga because they represented good value for money, i could play games on it and do my homework, infact i bought plenty of games (still have most of them) and a few apps like wordsworth. Later i bought a modem, so i could get online, which was all well and good... But then to be told that i needed to buy (trying to remember pricing): A TCP Stack - £30 A Web browser - £30 An IRC client - £20 A mail client - £25 A telnet client - £25 An FTP client - £30 The MUI gui toolkit that most of the above apps required - £30
All this added up to more than twice the cost of the actual modem, and then you had to pay for updates when new versions came out too... Even microsoft don't screw their users this hard, and they can afford to alienate their users because they have plenty more. And then the attitude of inserting backdoors into programs to attack people who pirated them, totally immoral and just shows what a bunch of cowboys they were, ripping off what little remained of the amiga community. Not to mention that various groups of people actively tried to scupper efforts to produce free alternatives to their programs, for example the amozilla project which aimed to port netscape to amigaos back when it was first open sourced, even netscape 4 as it was, was a far more advanced browser than anything else available for the amiga, and ran at a more than acceptable speed on amiga hardware (the mac version ran very well under shapeshifter)
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It's not about the fact that it didn't include these things by default, that's to be expected considering the age of the OS... What the complaint was, is the fact that virtually all of these tools were only available as costly commercial packages. I was just trying to find examples of the prices, but it seems all these programs are no longer available, you can still download the shareware versions but you can't register them, and they were virtually all rather harsh crippleware, shutting down after 30 minutes for instance. I recently dug my old amiga out of the attic, and tried to get it online.... I couldn't get any software for it, either legitimately or through piracy... I could only get the crippleware versions which timed out after 30 minutes. In the end, i intalled linux/m68k on the machine so i could transfer files in and out of it. With linux, i get a free tcp stack, browser, and all the other standard internet tools, and they will still be downloadable and useable 10 years from now.
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You are precisely the kind of user who's sanctimonious attitude drove away a large number of amiga users. Users of other platforms never had to pay for basic internet software, why should amiga users? Having to pay for such basic tools is a very negative point against the amiga. Having to spend so much on software, leaves far less money to buy hardware, and the total cost is just ridiculous, you can buy a functional PC for the same money and get everything you need to get on the internet included or for free. It's pure greed that these people tried to wring every last cent out of what little remained of the amiga community, providing yet more incentive for people to abandon the platform for the sake of making a mere few dollars.
There is an open source clone of AmigaOS, called AROS... Infact, the "official" amigaos actually uses some components from AROS.
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I did the same... It wasn't just the OS tho: Basic networking software on the Amiga cost money, a web browser, an ftp client, an irc client, even a telnet client cost money... Every other platform had these basic clients available for free. When i was first using the internet, i did so from an amiga, and very quickly got frustrated by the ridiculous pricing for the most trivial of programs. And the attitude of a significant portion of the Amiga community when you pirated these programs... Many would shun you, claiming you were "destroying the amiga" and most of the networking software had backdoors that would be exploited to punish you for pirating these apps. Piracy did not kill the amiga, piracy MADE the amiga, at least in europe... Most of the people who bought amigas for gaming did so because it was easy to copy games, people bought them for their kids so their kids could share games with their friends in school. And then, when the amiga was on it's last legs, commodore bankrupt, users leaving in droves, rather than trying to encourage people to stay on the amiga, they make it so ridiculously expensive to stick with the amiga that it's cheaper to buy a windows or linux based pc. Now the same thing happens with AmigaOS 4, artificially restricting what hardware it can run on with their proprietary rom-based dongle... Making it so ridiculously expensive to use that they will never attract new users, as the few remaining amiga users keep dwindling in numbers.
Although HAM mode was originally designed for a virtual reality system of some kind... The 3D abilities of the Amiga were rather rudimentary, it could do flat shaded polygons well, but texture mapping was actually made more difficult by the way the Amiga dsplay system worked. However when the amiga was made, everyone played 2d games anyway.
Who says they have to sell the game? Just provide hosting for the existing game, plenty of companies make money selling game servers for running counterstrike and quake etc.
But if it's being run by volunteers and not for profit, then although bandwidth and hosting will still be a factor, you won't have loads of staff, including overpaid execs, to pay for out of the subscription. All of the subscription revenues can go directly towards the bandwidth and hosting etc. Also, with the game being opensource, people will get a chance to try it out for free on a small scale (there will nodoubt be some independent servers with less players) and if they like it, they can subscribe to the main server with many thousands more users to play with.
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And what if a security vulnerability is found in the LDAP features of samba? You may not be using them, but they will still be loaded because they're compiled in.
Also, to enable LDAP support in samba you need various ldap libraries installed, wasting even more space and providing new places for security holes to be found.
Here's another example, i tried to install pine on a redhat box fairly recently... Pine has optional support for kerberos, which on redhat is turned on, so i had to install a whole stack of kerberos libs before i could install pine. The telnet client also supported kerberos as well as various other things, which meant it tried to authenticate to kerberos on each connection (which took a few seconds to time out) before defaulting back to normal operation.
On gentoo, i build pine without kerberos
Security is not really a great concern in the ones which will never get networked, and those that do can be updated.
I heard that the vmware license specifically excludes rights to benchmark it, or at least to publish those benchmarks.
So your content to use the old drivers, with the old version of X, on the old kernel... The drivers still need to be updated to support other aspects of the system that they are tied to.
I have an old FireGL card, for which there are only drivers available for xfree86 4.2.0 on x86, rendering the card rather useless.
How soon before this comes out in Europe? All mobile networks in europe are GSM, and our denser population means the coverage is a lot better.
There were several free TCP stacks for windows and macos, and those that were non-free didn't have such ridiculous 30 minute timeouts on them, neither did the applications.
mIRC - a popular windows irc client, is still shareware but it doesn't stop you from using it by disconnecting you after 30 minutes.
Netscape had a paid for version, but the free version was still fully functional
If your going to end up supporting someone anyway, then you may as well give them linux...
Explaining a commandline procedure over the phone is much easier than explaining a graphical procedure, a commandline is similar to a conversation, you say something (type a command) and the computer says something back (output), just like a telephone conversation. Trying to debug a graphical program without being able to see the interface itself is a lot harder.
And then there's always SSH.
The T1000 only has a single FPU per chip, while having 8 integer execution units... If your workload is FTP based, then the T1000 is a poor choice.
That said, anything integer based should blow away a sparcserver 1000.
The 4 core being faster than an 8-core is in memory intensive tasks, where the fact that all 8 cores share a single connection to memory is the bottleneck.
No, it's a combination of both...
What your thinking of, is the fact that most RISC chips haven't been so heavily developed as x86 have in recent years...
Back when RISC was fashionable, RISC chips were regularly running at much higher clock rates than the x86 chips of the time, and had a higher IPC rate too, consider the Alpha which ran at 200mhz in 1992.
Well, you shouldn't teach kids a particular package, rather teach them the concept of a word processor.
When these kids grow up, they will almost certainly find that the programs available to them or being used at places where they work, are completely different to what they used in school, especially since schools typically have computers that are a few years out of date anyway. As an example, we had wordperfect for dos at our school.
With either format, you will need to convert your old files so there is no direct compatibility, the old file will be converted into a representation of itself stored in the new format.
The difference is, MS's format includes specific tags telling it to emulate the buggy behaviour of older programs, for instance:
mwSmallCaps (Emulate Word 5.x for the Macintosh Small Caps Formatting)
This basically says, that word 5.x for mac had buggy handling of small caps that caused them to be even smaller than they should normally appear, and so when opening such a file recent versions of word will emulate that behaviour, and store this setting in the document so it's retained when you open it again.
ODF on the other hand, does not have piles of kludgy tags like this, because the format is not the place for it. Instead, whatever program is responsible for opening the file, when it sees a word 5.x for mac file can simply reduce the font size of the small caps to match what word 5.x would have done and save the file as ODF like that.
That way, you don't bloat the format with stupid things like that, you just use the existing and standard functions for defining font sizes.
Any network game depends on what other networking equipment you have...
And especially with wireless, you are subject to lots of factors including your routing equipment, other traffic on the network, interference from other sources, walls blocking the signals etc. At my parents house, wireless works terribly... You can browse the web and all seems normal, but anything interactive becomes unuseable, ssh sessions stall every few minutes.
Their internal documentation seems to be rather poor, witness the laughable ability of ms publisher to open and save word documents... It garbles them badly, and makes a much worse job of it than openoffice does.
It seems that they just keep the original office codebase going and carefully add to it trying not to break anything.
If you leave a process running in the background consuming 100% of your cpu all the time, like setiathome or distributed.net, then your system won't get hotter, rather it will just be processing something else to load the cpu and still generating the same amount of heat.
How old are the G3 macs?
I had a 350MHz G3 that ran OSX just fine, 10.3.x went on easily and 10.4.x just needed me to hook up a DVD reader (since the system, being so old, didnt have one by default).
The barrier to entry for creating an OS is not high, there are plenty of existing OS's you can build upon... Witness Apple and the technologies they leverages in building OSX. You can even get a complete set of applications for your new OS by porting existing open source applications.
The difficulty is getting anyone to use your OS, getting commercial vendors to port their proprietary applications to it, and providing compatibility with proprietary file formats and protocols that other people might be using.
Do you reallt think the goatse trolls will bother using these tags if they're going to decrease their chances of getting people to follow the links?
And for your information, i was buying amiga hardware, and software while it was sensibly priced...
I was still in school when the amiga was popular, and we never had that much money... My parents bought me an amiga because they represented good value for money, i could play games on it and do my homework, infact i bought plenty of games (still have most of them) and a few apps like wordsworth.
Later i bought a modem, so i could get online, which was all well and good... But then to be told that i needed to buy (trying to remember pricing):
A TCP Stack - £30
A Web browser - £30
An IRC client - £20
A mail client - £25
A telnet client - £25
An FTP client - £30
The MUI gui toolkit that most of the above apps required - £30
All this added up to more than twice the cost of the actual modem, and then you had to pay for updates when new versions came out too... Even microsoft don't screw their users this hard, and they can afford to alienate their users because they have plenty more.
And then the attitude of inserting backdoors into programs to attack people who pirated them, totally immoral and just shows what a bunch of cowboys they were, ripping off what little remained of the amiga community.
Not to mention that various groups of people actively tried to scupper efforts to produce free alternatives to their programs, for example the amozilla project which aimed to port netscape to amigaos back when it was first open sourced, even netscape 4 as it was, was a far more advanced browser than anything else available for the amiga, and ran at a more than acceptable speed on amiga hardware (the mac version ran very well under shapeshifter)
It's not about the fact that it didn't include these things by default, that's to be expected considering the age of the OS...
What the complaint was, is the fact that virtually all of these tools were only available as costly commercial packages.
I was just trying to find examples of the prices, but it seems all these programs are no longer available, you can still download the shareware versions but you can't register them, and they were virtually all rather harsh crippleware, shutting down after 30 minutes for instance.
I recently dug my old amiga out of the attic, and tried to get it online.... I couldn't get any software for it, either legitimately or through piracy... I could only get the crippleware versions which timed out after 30 minutes. In the end, i intalled linux/m68k on the machine so i could transfer files in and out of it. With linux, i get a free tcp stack, browser, and all the other standard internet tools, and they will still be downloadable and useable 10 years from now.
You are precisely the kind of user who's sanctimonious attitude drove away a large number of amiga users.
Users of other platforms never had to pay for basic internet software, why should amiga users? Having to pay for such basic tools is a very negative point against the amiga.
Having to spend so much on software, leaves far less money to buy hardware, and the total cost is just ridiculous, you can buy a functional PC for the same money and get everything you need to get on the internet included or for free.
It's pure greed that these people tried to wring every last cent out of what little remained of the amiga community, providing yet more incentive for people to abandon the platform for the sake of making a mere few dollars.
There is an open source clone of AmigaOS, called AROS...
Infact, the "official" amigaos actually uses some components from AROS.
I did the same... It wasn't just the OS tho:
Basic networking software on the Amiga cost money, a web browser, an ftp client, an irc client, even a telnet client cost money... Every other platform had these basic clients available for free. When i was first using the internet, i did so from an amiga, and very quickly got frustrated by the ridiculous pricing for the most trivial of programs.
And the attitude of a significant portion of the Amiga community when you pirated these programs... Many would shun you, claiming you were "destroying the amiga" and most of the networking software had backdoors that would be exploited to punish you for pirating these apps.
Piracy did not kill the amiga, piracy MADE the amiga, at least in europe... Most of the people who bought amigas for gaming did so because it was easy to copy games, people bought them for their kids so their kids could share games with their friends in school.
And then, when the amiga was on it's last legs, commodore bankrupt, users leaving in droves, rather than trying to encourage people to stay on the amiga, they make it so ridiculously expensive to stick with the amiga that it's cheaper to buy a windows or linux based pc.
Now the same thing happens with AmigaOS 4, artificially restricting what hardware it can run on with their proprietary rom-based dongle... Making it so ridiculously expensive to use that they will never attract new users, as the few remaining amiga users keep dwindling in numbers.
Although HAM mode was originally designed for a virtual reality system of some kind...
The 3D abilities of the Amiga were rather rudimentary, it could do flat shaded polygons well, but texture mapping was actually made more difficult by the way the Amiga dsplay system worked. However when the amiga was made, everyone played 2d games anyway.
Who says they have to sell the game?
Just provide hosting for the existing game, plenty of companies make money selling game servers for running counterstrike and quake etc.
But if it's being run by volunteers and not for profit, then although bandwidth and hosting will still be a factor, you won't have loads of staff, including overpaid execs, to pay for out of the subscription. All of the subscription revenues can go directly towards the bandwidth and hosting etc.
Also, with the game being opensource, people will get a chance to try it out for free on a small scale (there will nodoubt be some independent servers with less players) and if they like it, they can subscribe to the main server with many thousands more users to play with.