The google web Wave client is tryiing too much things, and give the feel of a alfa client, with the speed a bloated "v14.0"-ish app.
1) It will be better if it try less things. FIRST. Using waves to configure things, is like using emails to store emails settings. Is just a bad idea. It could be cool, and good for devs (eat your own dog food), but is bad for users. Since the use of waves is slow, changing settings is slow. A normal interface, like the one that Gmail have for his setup details, will be much faster and easy to use, also more "normal". Future versions of Wave could have something different, but for the current version is just too much. This wave client is trying too strong to be a 2020 client, and need to be a 2009 client.
2). Again, is 2009. For most people Wave is slow, It just do too much things automatically. Opening and closing waves sould be much faster. It feel like everything is automatically autoupdating all the time. Thats sould stop, and only the active wave be this active. Maybe broadcast the "modified" flag. A future 2020 version could get that feature back, once our computers and the whole internet is much faster.
3). Too much!!!.. Is too much!!. Wave is complex beyond needing a manual, It almost need special training. It seems some features are unwanted, but present everywhere...more about this soon..
Who created a wave?. It seems a wave lack the "headers" of a email. It sould have a way to know the name of the wave creator (the OP in forum parlance), the date of such creating, and other stuff. The subject/title of a room, sould probably be "manual" and not "automagical".
Why I can't download it to a file? say a PDF.
Why I can't open a wave in areal fullscreen way, withouth the web MDI interface?.
Its need more control over a wave. Like... force part of it read-only, or stop more people to join.
How its now.. what If I say something sensitive, and some guy invited the wrong person? ok, you can do that with email, but here seems something that can be like more casual. It just don't trusth a wave, because It feels public, without a way to stop that. It would be "easy" to block that.
What are the limits of a bot? can a bot that inject a SWF steal my account details? Facebook seems a bit more "safer" than this. Bots are like too "misterious". Bots sould have a special way to be identified from humans, and a dedicated page with (maybe) commands. Hell... PEOPLE need a simple profile page.
LOTS OF STUFF...
I think Wave has been released too early. Its still a technological preview of a future technology, but is not usable today for what I have commented. I love to have it available, has a toy, but I have not found a real use, nor my friends seems inclined to use it.
A faster client (desktop based?) will be giganteous step.
There are history books, books loselly based in history, totally wild interpretations (like 300). There are history games (like wargames), books loselly based in history (typical shooter in Omaha beach), totally wild interpretations...
Narrative is just a element in gamming. Like textures, fonts, GUI, models,... and Gameplay. Gameplay is probably the 50% of a game, a 40% is visuals, and the other 10% is everything else. Theres only two type of games where history/narrative is really important for a game: wargames and educatives games. All other games are mostly narrative lights (Quake), or self-narrative-creators (Sim City), or worlds (Morrowind),...
I am getting old, and I really appreciate games that build some credible characters and history (like L4D). But videogames are a superset and narrative is a subset. You can do much more than just narrating something. We can talk, or we can walk. Games can do both,... and more. Books are limited, games are not.
"Microsoft follows their publised API's and published guidelines. Most other companies DO NOT. They take shortcuts to try and get things done quicker and almost always get it wrong."
Thats why other OS based funcionalities on standards. To avoid that culture. But the Windows culture is built on it, and YOU can't deny the influence of Microsoft on it, since his standards-enemy stance.
The PC market is moving to digital downloads, so most sales stats are wrong.
"The stats are based on retail sales. Online game subscriptions and digital distribution are not included. And that online gaming market is increasing rapidly, especially with PC gamers. UPDATE: Starting with 2005, NPD tracks online PC sales."
Like this one.
Good post, mate, but wrong. Please mod parent down:-)
A application sould not break the OS. That was MR. GENERAL FAULT windows 3.1 commander:-)
But PulseAudio is not application. Could be, I am speculating... that PA has to manage direct access to hardware that is poorly designed, so It could crash (maybe even the entire computer) because this poor hardware design? I don't know, I am just asking.
Microsoft, from all people? ignore all the jokes about his consumer OS. His server software is horrible bad!!. Maybe Visual Studio is a nice tool, his compiler is average, but good. Other than that, why o why? I sould not be tecnical merits, has to be something else.
Most games already have a option to choose how hard or easy you want your game. This works better than autoleveling, because If I set the game to be hard, and I die too much, maybe thats exactly what I want, and If set game too easy and I kill everything, maybe thats what I want.
Good games, like World of Goo, have options to skip night imposible levels (since is a puzzle game, you could be stoped totally to experience the whole level). This is like these ols space games with "megabombs" that clear the screen. But that "megabomb" is limited. Challenge is good wen you want challenge, havin games that kill challenge would be fatal. And this one of the reasons Oblivium was a bad game, and Morrowind was a much better game.
postdata: Also, dificulty is not that all important. Fun is important. Games sould be fun. The dificulty is not the reason. But since we are talking here about dificulty, I have talked about it, and what it means.
Well.. is obvious that will continue pushing XP, since you can't fit Windows 7 in a netbook with 2GB of RAM. Once netbooks get powerfull and cheap enough to have 4GB and a +2GHz CPU, then will stop pushing XP, let it die, and push very hard Windows 7.
I have a eepc 701, and I am very happy with my eebuntu. I have tried Windows 7 in my desktop computer trough vmware, and W7 is garbage. Also, my eepc has 4 GB of disk. I don't see how Windows 7 would install on my netbook at all, since seems Windows 7 OS takes 10GB of the hard disk.
It could be in a sense for some people. But not all modders are made equal. There are wildly different reasons for modding. Even people that is modding, and don't have a good reason. There are people modding because is fun for then (a hobby), there are people that want to recreate a movie (geezers..:P), there are people that want to show his skill to the industry, there are small studios that want to show his skill to publishers, there are bored people, and solitary worlfs, and more. Theres not central or unique reason, for modding. Modding happends. Much like climbing mountains.
You have buy a machine, not a license. If you want to open it, and mod it on any way you want. Is just a tiny mountain of chips and transistors. You could break it in pieces and use it to fix your refrigerator. Any law that let the creator of the machine perpetuate this locking trough anti-user changes sould get a fine, and any law that help then do that, sould be reverted, and the legislators of these laws be kicked in the ass with a boot.
It seems the Killer App of Google IO and Google Gears is Wave, but Wave lacks a killer app. Withouth that, It will not be popular.
Wave may need a killer app that needs a 90% of the features that provide, or only a 10%. Also, a killer app will cement some ideas about what Wave is. Another problem with Wave, is that is nothing just now, is nothing and everything, but need to be something, and that nameless something is yet to be invented. I suppose Google want exactly that, some guy inventing a killer app for Wave, or even some usefull toys. But I don't think have it yet. Is everyone listening? Google has created Gears, and Gear can add "offline" features to any webpage. Google IO can add streaming features to any app and more. We need to listen to Google more, because is releasing some technologies and ideas that are worth our time. The XMLHttpRequest was behind our radar a few years, before people realized his raw power. I suspect theres some untapped power on some of the latest tools released by Google, and is not Wave, is what move Wave.
Of course, I can be wrong. Who I am? another random guy on the internet:-/
I can visit your webpage with Firefox, even If you don't like it. And save your photos, even If you don't like that. I can print your website, and store it forever, even zip that, and send to other people. I can see your website in a monocrome monitor (hell.. yea, there are people, artist types that will hate that). I can EAR your website, with a reader. I can "touch" your website with a 3d printer, etc..
On the web is the user that control the experience.
Do you know CSS? Is Cascade Style Sheet. The browser make rules for the size of the font of H1, the owner of the website add his rules, and finnaly the user can overwrite all rules with his personal rules. On the web, you don't control what is on the screen, is ME who control that.
"A lot of the fancy shit you see on the internet today is javascript, the reason much of it wasn't there before was because javascript was so damn intensive to execute."
Hell... NO!.
We use to avoid javascript for everything, but "decoration", so everything still work if a guy has javascript off.
Nowdays javascript is considered more or less "standard", and theres much more interesting that can be done with it, thanks to CSS and the AJAX object.
So using javascript NOW make sense, but using javascript a few years ago was a bad idea. Is still a bad idea to make a website depends on javascript for the sake of it. As there are people out here with NoScript and stuff. But nowdays we have tools and strategies to make websites with javascript and working for these people.
Well. As everyone will tell you, a encryptation system that give the attacker the unencryptation algoritym, enormeous ammounts of data unencrypted and such data encrypted is stupid.
Also, P2P is less efficient (for the downloaders) than C2S. Why would the nodes download at slower speed from a legal P2P DRM network, wen can download from a warez C2S service, like a FTP, or a HTTP server like Megaupload. Humm?
And I think DRM sould be illegal, has remove stuff like second sale, and the freedom to use a tool for whatever the buyer need it, where he need it. The people selling stuff with DRM is on a confussion, are selling CD's, or are selling licenses?, If I lost my CD, can I download it again because I own a license? If I am buying a fisical product, can I make it whatever i want, like backups?, or sell to other people. With DRM the seller want to have both the rights of a license and a product, and give none of these right to the buyer.
I don't think so. The kernal has how much manhours? and his fullfilling how much different roles? The kernel is everything for everybody (or almost) and you can get that withouth bloat. A specialized kernel on "real time" and "small machines" could have the privilege to have no bloat. Or one that never will have to run on PC hardware. Etc..
Its probably more important how is mantained, how stuff is removed/added. IMHO.
well.. It seems tor is showing is usefullness for us, these that love freedom.
maybe could be a good idea to start building a system better than tor, for.. you know, if theres something like a race arms, and tor is blocked / detected.:-I
This is a RvR game. To avoid the problems with PoTBS:
Don't join AION, if you can't handle ganking. Ganking in Darkfall could be much more fair than in AION, the "resistences" of a high level may make imposible to kill a players that is a few levels higher than you.
You can get cheaper, but 300 sounds like a very good one.
>$125 sound card
$0, is included in the motherboard.
>$300 OS
less than 20 for a OEM, and 0 if you already have windows (the license of your old pc)
>$225 TV card
WTF? is that a gamming machine or something else?
>$300 office suite
WTF? is this a gamming machine? OpenOffice for free. Google Docs for free.
>$400 blu-ray writer
WTF need that for gamming?
>$500 second monitor 22"
WTF? and second computer too ? are we talking about ONE machine?
>$300 for a few games
Are we talking about a machine? or about something else? There are good games like Tremulous, Nexuiz, Warsow, for fre, also free FPS like Wolf Team, free RPG games, like Rune of Magic, etc..
>$250 UPS
WTF? is not a server, dude!
>$200 enclosure more like 50
>$150 speakers
WTF?
>$95 keyboard
WTF? >$85 mouse
Only if you want the best logitech
>$5 mouse pad
Good one! haha
>$3 mic
>$25 IR remote
WTF??
>$50 quiet VGA cooler
WTFLOL!!!!
You are crazy man. You can buy a good PC for around 400 / 500 . If you have already hard disk, monitor, etc.. for much less than that.
DLC is supposed to give to console gamers what we the PC gamers have. Stuff made by entusiast to enhance already good games with more maps, game modes, textures, models, etc..
Since that stuff can't be freely installed in a console, because a console is locked down hardware, to give that cool stuff companies make that stuff thenselves and need to sell it.
Games like Counter-strike work because the input don't need to be send to the server to show a change on the screen. You press LEFT, and the char move left on your screen. The left movement still has to hit the server, procesed, and return.
300 ms lag with Counter-Strike is playable, but feel lame. 200 ms with input lag is unplayable.. playable with training, you need to train yourself to move the character like a drunk. And that the better way to explain it. On today games, the clientside adds the quick reactions, before the data is send to teh server. Withouth that faking (clientside prediction stuff) you will move and feel like a drunk with 2 vozka bottles inside.
I have just read a article, about a children getting a possible 10 years sentence to open a hardware to install software on it. And now I am reading this? I am angry, very angry, please _jail time_ for the people that has taken this decission in Bell!, NOW!.
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The google web Wave client is tryiing too much things, and give the feel of a alfa client, with the speed a bloated "v14.0"-ish app.
1) It will be better if it try less things. FIRST. Using waves to configure things, is like using emails to store emails settings. Is just a bad idea. It could be cool, and good for devs (eat your own dog food), but is bad for users. Since the use of waves is slow, changing settings is slow. A normal interface, like the one that Gmail have for his setup details, will be much faster and easy to use, also more "normal". Future versions of Wave could have something different, but for the current version is just too much. This wave client is trying too strong to be a 2020 client, and need to be a 2009 client.
2). Again, is 2009. For most people Wave is slow, It just do too much things automatically. Opening and closing waves sould be much faster. It feel like everything is automatically autoupdating all the time. Thats sould stop, and only the active wave be this active. Maybe broadcast the "modified" flag. A future 2020 version could get that feature back, once our computers and the whole internet is much faster.
3). Too much!!!.. Is too much!!. Wave is complex beyond needing a manual, It almost need special training. It seems some features are unwanted, but present everywhere. ..more about this soon..
Who created a wave?. It seems a wave lack the "headers" of a email. It sould have a way to know the name of the wave creator (the OP in forum parlance), the date of such creating, and other stuff. The subject/title of a room, sould probably be "manual" and not "automagical".
Why I can't download it to a file? say a PDF.
Why I can't open a wave in areal fullscreen way, withouth the web MDI interface?.
Its need more control over a wave. Like... force part of it read-only, or stop more people to join.
How its now.. what If I say something sensitive, and some guy invited the wrong person? ok, you can do that with email, but here seems something that can be like more casual. It just don't trusth a wave, because It feels public, without a way to stop that. It would be "easy" to block that.
What are the limits of a bot? can a bot that inject a SWF steal my account details? Facebook seems a bit more "safer" than this. Bots are like too "misterious". Bots sould have a special way to be identified from humans, and a dedicated page with (maybe) commands. Hell... PEOPLE need a simple profile page.
LOTS OF STUFF...
I think Wave has been released too early. Its still a technological preview of a future technology, but is not usable today for what I have commented. I love to have it available, has a toy, but I have not found a real use, nor my friends seems inclined to use it.
A faster client (desktop based?) will be giganteous step.
There are history books, books loselly based in history, totally wild interpretations (like 300).
There are history games (like wargames), books loselly based in history (typical shooter in Omaha beach), totally wild interpretations...
Narrative is just a element in gamming. Like textures, fonts, GUI, models, ... and Gameplay. Gameplay is probably the 50% of a game, a 40% is visuals, and the other 10% is everything else. Theres only two type of games where history/narrative is really important for a game: wargames and educatives games. All other games are mostly narrative lights (Quake), or self-narrative-creators (Sim City), or worlds (Morrowind), ...
I am getting old, and I really appreciate games that build some credible characters and history (like L4D). But videogames are a superset and narrative is a subset. You can do much more than just narrating something. We can talk, or we can walk. Games can do both,... and more. Books are limited, games are not.
"Microsoft follows their publised API's and published guidelines. Most other companies DO NOT. They take shortcuts to try and get things done quicker and almost always get it wrong."
Thats why other OS based funcionalities on standards. To avoid that culture. But the Windows culture is built on it, and YOU can't deny the influence of Microsoft on it, since his standards-enemy stance.
The PC market is moving to digital downloads, so most sales stats are wrong.
"The stats are based on retail sales. Online game subscriptions and digital distribution are not included. And that online gaming market is increasing rapidly, especially with PC gamers. UPDATE: Starting with 2005, NPD tracks online PC sales."
Like this one.
Good post, mate, but wrong. Please mod parent down :-)
A application sould not break the OS. That was MR. GENERAL FAULT windows 3.1 commander :-)
But PulseAudio is not application. Could be, I am speculating... that PA has to manage direct access to hardware that is poorly designed, so It could crash (maybe even the entire computer) because this poor hardware design? I don't know, I am just asking.
Microsoft, from all people? ignore all the jokes about his consumer OS. His server software is horrible bad!!. Maybe Visual Studio is a nice tool, his compiler is average, but good. Other than that, why o why? I sould not be tecnical merits, has to be something else.
Most games already have a option to choose how hard or easy you want your game. This works better than autoleveling, because If I set the game to be hard, and I die too much, maybe thats exactly what I want, and If set game too easy and I kill everything, maybe thats what I want.
Good games, like World of Goo, have options to skip night imposible levels (since is a puzzle game, you could be stoped totally to experience the whole level). This is like these ols space games with "megabombs" that clear the screen. But that "megabomb" is limited.
Challenge is good wen you want challenge, havin games that kill challenge would be fatal. And this one of the reasons Oblivium was a bad game, and Morrowind was a much better game.
postdata:
Also, dificulty is not that all important. Fun is important. Games sould be fun. The dificulty is not the reason. But since we are talking here about dificulty, I have talked about it, and what it means.
Well.. is obvious that will continue pushing XP, since you can't fit Windows 7 in a netbook with 2GB of RAM. Once netbooks get powerfull and cheap enough to have 4GB and a +2GHz CPU, then will stop pushing XP, let it die, and push very hard Windows 7.
I have a eepc 701, and I am very happy with my eebuntu. I have tried Windows 7 in my desktop computer trough vmware, and W7 is garbage. Also, my eepc has 4 GB of disk. I don't see how Windows 7 would install on my netbook at all, since seems Windows 7 OS takes 10GB of the hard disk.
"In a sense, it's like fanfic."
It could be in a sense for some people. But not all modders are made equal. There are wildly different reasons for modding. Even people that is modding, and don't have a good reason. There are people modding because is fun for then (a hobby), there are people that want to recreate a movie (geezers.. :P), there are people that want to show his skill to the industry, there are small studios that want to show his skill to publishers, there are bored people, and solitary worlfs, and more.
Theres not central or unique reason, for modding. Modding happends. Much like climbing mountains.
You have buy a machine, not a license. If you want to open it, and mod it on any way you want. Is just a tiny mountain of chips and transistors. You could break it in pieces and use it to fix your refrigerator. Any law that let the creator of the machine perpetuate this locking trough anti-user changes sould get a fine, and any law that help then do that, sould be reverted, and the legislators of these laws be kicked in the ass with a boot.
It seems the Killer App of Google IO and Google Gears is Wave, but Wave lacks a killer app. Withouth that, It will not be popular.
Wave may need a killer app that needs a 90% of the features that provide, or only a 10%. Also, a killer app will cement some ideas about what Wave is. Another problem with Wave, is that is nothing just now, is nothing and everything, but need to be something, and that nameless something is yet to be invented. I suppose Google want exactly that, some guy inventing a killer app for Wave, or even some usefull toys. But I don't think have it yet. Is everyone listening? Google has created Gears, and Gear can add "offline" features to any webpage. Google IO can add streaming features to any app and more. We need to listen to Google more, because is releasing some technologies and ideas that are worth our time. The XMLHttpRequest was behind our radar a few years, before people realized his raw power. I suspect theres some untapped power on some of the latest tools released by Google, and is not Wave, is what move Wave.
Of course, I can be wrong. Who I am? another random guy on the internet :-/
Well.. this one was posted before on reddit. *laughts*
So.. yea.
Can anyone post the Javascript code here?, Its probabbly some boring use of ajax, but anyway...
I can visit your webpage with Firefox, even If you don't like it. And save your photos, even If you don't like that. I can print your website, and store it forever, even zip that, and send to other people.
I can see your website in a monocrome monitor (hell.. yea, there are people, artist types that will hate that). I can EAR your website, with a reader. I can "touch" your website with a 3d printer, etc..
On the web is the user that control the experience.
Do you know CSS? Is Cascade Style Sheet. The browser make rules for the size of the font of H1, the owner of the website add his rules, and finnaly the user can overwrite all rules with his personal rules. On the web, you don't control what is on the screen, is ME who control that.
"A lot of the fancy shit you see on the internet today is javascript, the reason much of it wasn't there before was because javascript was so damn intensive to execute."
Hell... NO!.
We use to avoid javascript for everything, but "decoration", so everything still work if a guy has javascript off.
Nowdays javascript is considered more or less "standard", and theres much more interesting that can be done with it, thanks to CSS and the AJAX object.
So using javascript NOW make sense, but using javascript a few years ago was a bad idea. Is still a bad idea to make a website depends on javascript for the sake of it. As there are people out here with NoScript and stuff. But nowdays we have tools and strategies to make websites with javascript and working for these people.
Well. As everyone will tell you, a encryptation system that give the attacker the unencryptation algoritym, enormeous ammounts of data unencrypted and such data encrypted is stupid.
Also, P2P is less efficient (for the downloaders) than C2S. Why would the nodes download at slower speed from a legal P2P DRM network, wen can download from a warez C2S service, like a FTP, or a HTTP server like Megaupload. Humm?
And I think DRM sould be illegal, has remove stuff like second sale, and the freedom to use a tool for whatever the buyer need it, where he need it. The people selling stuff with DRM is on a confussion, are selling CD's, or are selling licenses?, If I lost my CD, can I download it again because I own a license? If I am buying a fisical product, can I make it whatever i want, like backups?, or sell to other people. With DRM the seller want to have both the rights of a license and a product, and give none of these right to the buyer.
I don't think so. The kernal has how much manhours? and his fullfilling how much different roles? The kernel is everything for everybody (or almost) and you can get that withouth bloat. A specialized kernel on "real time" and "small machines" could have the privilege to have no bloat. Or one that never will have to run on PC hardware. Etc..
Its probably more important how is mantained, how stuff is removed/added. IMHO.
well.. It seems tor is showing is usefullness for us, these that love freedom.
maybe could be a good idea to start building a system better than tor, for.. you know, if theres something like a race arms, and tor is blocked / detected. :-I
This is a RvR game. To avoid the problems with PoTBS:
Don't join AION, if you can't handle ganking. Ganking in Darkfall could be much more fair than in AION, the "resistences" of a high level may make imposible to kill a players that is a few levels higher than you.
>$2'600 LCD,
you can get a good monitor (10'') for about $100
>4 HDD totalling $600
You don't need 4. One at $50
>$350 motherboard
WTF?, more like $50
>$300 video card
You can get cheaper, but 300 sounds like a very good one.
>$125 sound card
$0, is included in the motherboard.
>$300 OS
less than 20 for a OEM, and 0 if you already have windows (the license of your old pc)
>$225 TV card
WTF? is that a gamming machine or something else?
>$300 office suite
WTF? is this a gamming machine? OpenOffice for free. Google Docs for free.
>$400 blu-ray writer
WTF need that for gamming?
>$500 second monitor 22"
WTF? and second computer too ? are we talking about ONE machine?
>$300 for a few games
Are we talking about a machine? or about something else?
There are good games like Tremulous, Nexuiz, Warsow, for fre, also free FPS like Wolf Team, free RPG games, like Rune of Magic, etc..
>$250 UPS
WTF? is not a server, dude!
>$200 enclosure
more like 50
>$150 speakers
WTF?
>$95 keyboard
WTF?
>$85 mouse
Only if you want the best logitech
>$5 mouse pad
Good one! haha
>$3 mic
>$25 IR remote
WTF??
>$50 quiet VGA cooler
WTFLOL!!!!
You are crazy man. You can buy a good PC for around 400 / 500 . If you have already hard disk, monitor, etc.. for much less than that.
L4D2 will not use a new engine. Will use the very old now Source engine.
Valve need to retire this engine, and create a new one (Source 2)?, because Source is starting to look outdated.
I hate wen people "invent" new engines just to promote a game.
Here is my quake family tree:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Quake_-_family_tree.svg
--Tei
DLC is supposed to give to console gamers what we the PC gamers have. Stuff made by entusiast to enhance already good games with more maps, game modes, textures, models, etc..
Since that stuff can't be freely installed in a console, because a console is locked down hardware, to give that cool stuff companies make that stuff thenselves and need to sell it.
DLC is the DRM version of Modding.
Hehehe... Sexist AI
Games like Counter-strike work because the input don't need to be send to the server to show a change on the screen.
You press LEFT, and the char move left on your screen. The left movement still has to hit the server, procesed, and return.
300 ms lag with Counter-Strike is playable, but feel lame. 200 ms with input lag is unplayable.. playable with training, you need to train yourself to move the character like a drunk. And that the better way to explain it. On today games, the clientside adds the quick reactions, before the data is send to teh server. Withouth that faking (clientside prediction stuff) you will move and feel like a drunk with 2 vozka bottles inside.
I have just read a article, about a children getting a possible 10 years sentence to open a hardware to install software on it. And now I am reading this? I am angry, very angry, please _jail time_ for the people that has taken this decission in Bell!, NOW!.
Can we get a fair world, please?
like a mail server, you can have this installed inside your organization, so any exisiting backup strategy /protection strategy will work.
and off-course, run this "off-line" (withouth internet access).