OS 9 sucked ass, for all intents. Even mac users knew this. It was the lesser of two evils, but it was still pretty evil.
OS X on the other hand, simply rocks. I've been running it on several machines since 10.0, and I've never (as in not once) crashed it. I'm a rude bastard, too. I'm not saying it's crashproof, but I haven't been able to do it.
Microsoft products for the Mac cone to use from the Microsoft's Mac Business Unit. They aren't ports of the windows version. That's why they're so great.
Ever see word 6 on the mac? It was the windows version, more or less. It almost killed the MacBU it was so bad. Mac users don't want windows software.
1) It looks nothing like OS X
2) OS X doesn't run Windows apps
3) OS X doesn't run linux apps (shaddup about XDarwin)
4) OS X doesn't run on x86 hardware (darwin does, though)
5) OS X is a real product
An OS's design influences how its native applications behave. Port a Windows app over to the Mac, and people will bitch like crazy. It just doesn't fit. Similarly, a windows app runninng on a linux box just has a fonky feel to it.
Windows apps are what makes windows what it is, and vice versa. If you want to run windows apps, run windows or an emulator.
I don't care if my software is open. Open source hase wonderful advantages, but it's more important to me that software is good. OS X is the best operating system I've ever seen. I don't care if it's closed, I don't care if they had to drive a steamroller through a kitten factory to make it. It's that good.
It's amazing how people will put up with crap software just because it's open source, and denounce great software just because it's closed. Last time I checked, the purpose of open source was to create great software, not to stick to ideals.
I don't own a car, but I have worked on my friends' rides, and I don't like it at all. Computers don't have messy fluids, and they aren't grimey inside. It's the neat freak side of me that gets so bothered about cars. I don't like to fix vaccum cleaners, garbage disposals, or any of the other stuff that's always ookey.
On a technical level, cars are neato keen, like any machine. I enjoy learning the technical details of how they work a lot, but the practical application of that technology is far too messy.
this is totally ot, so mod down as appropriate. -1 would be ideal, since this article has already been ruined.
I can't imagine anything more losing than sitting and waiting for new slashdot news you can ruin. Some of your posts are undeniably funny, though.
What aren't funny are your posts that fuck up the page. Page lengthening. How amusing. I'm very impressed that you can get past the lameness filter, and I'm sure you feel you've accomplished something. Go you.
These posts leave me no choice but to browse at 0. There are some posts that get modded down unfairly, and I end up missing them. Thanks bunches.
This may be among the more pointless bitches of all time, I know, but I felt like bitching.
We all know that Captain Crunch is bloatware, loaded with features no one needs. "oops...all berries!" comes to mind. Choosing a distro (peanut butter, plain, crunchberries) is getting more and more difficult; it won't be long before we have dozens of varieties to choose from.
Real me use cheerios and like it. No frills, but you get a nutritious breakfast.
With my family, it's almost always cash or cash equivalents. As I noted in a previous post, pringles are a rare exception.
Why? Simply put, we don't like eachother. It's enough that most of us are in the same room at the same time, we're not going to go so far as to give thoughtful gifts.
I know, that's dysfunctional. It's fucked up. It ain't right at all. I agree, things should be different.
Video games, television, and now the internet have managed to turn what was a family into a group of people who have nothing more than their gene pool in common.
The thing is, nobody's willing to give up the chattering cyclops. We love our televisions far more than our relatives. The television is perfect, and, given enough channels, will never let you down. The television is always ready to devote it's full attention to you. Add the internet, with 24 hour a day hardcore anal action and plenty of no strings attached easily escapable instant message "relationships", and human interaction just can't compete.
What you're asking is a fundamental change in our societal structure, and as long as living rooms glow tv blue, as long as the dsl guy can be here next week, as long as the show goes on, it isn't going to happen.
I've got this aunt. She lives in New Jersey, which should explain a lot.
So, one xmas, when I was about 12, me and my brothers all get similar looking presents. I opened mine first. Removal of the paper revealed a Pringles can (I forget the flavor).
"Oh," I thought, "she used Pringles cans as shipping containers." Already a little nutty, but sort of resourceful.
So I open my can, expecting anything but what was inside: Pringles. Pringles that had been shipped from NJ to CA. Pringles that had been pulverized into Pringle dust.
I guess maybe she thought we didn't have prigles here or something. Maybe that New Jersey air was to blame. I never had the nuts to ask what the hell she was thinking.
If I could have tossed that $1.25 or so at a shipping fee for something non-pringles online, I would have. It's not that I'm an ingrate, it's that some people are genuinely insane.
I work at a chemical company, and we occasionally send samples through ups. Although they will handle some hazmat, they charge you both arms and a bucket of legs and wings.
Mostly stuff containing 50% sodium hydroxide, 75% phos. acid, or 35% hydrogen peroxide. Not all in the same container, naturally.
Yeah, "looks like a windows app" is pretty much the blanket bad UI criticism for us. It looks a whole lot more like a windows app than it does a Mac app.
I totally understand the need for a portable UI. The advantages are obvious. It's just sad to see such a great browser unable to use what is (in my opinion, natch) the best windowing system available.
Mozilla does have a nice mail client, but it's not enough to pull me away from Mail.app. I haven't checked out the nntp client, tin has been serving me well.
On the omniweb note, they seem to be making good progress, omniweb 4.1 is due at macworld sf, and ow 5 looks like it could give IE some serious competition.
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OS 9 sucked ass, for all intents. Even mac users knew this. It was the lesser of two evils, but it was still pretty evil.
OS X on the other hand, simply rocks. I've been running it on several machines since 10.0, and I've never (as in not once) crashed it. I'm a rude bastard, too. I'm not saying it's crashproof, but I haven't been able to do it.
point taken, but isn't this what the sundance festival is for?
First annual?
Don't we have enough of these goons sitting around saluting themselves?
Man, we poor Mac users miss out on all the good software.
"We are currently evaluating support for violating Mac OS users, and this document will be updated to reflect any changes."
There's a difference between windows software and microsoft software.
Microsoft products for the Mac cone to use from the Microsoft's Mac Business Unit. They aren't ports of the windows version. That's why they're so great.
Ever see word 6 on the mac? It was the windows version, more or less. It almost killed the MacBU it was so bad. Mac users don't want windows software.
You're right, except:
1) It looks nothing like OS X
2) OS X doesn't run Windows apps
3) OS X doesn't run linux apps (shaddup about XDarwin)
4) OS X doesn't run on x86 hardware (darwin does, though)
5) OS X is a real product
Other than that, the similarities are clear.
I like Apple's Cupertino address
1 Infinite Loop
just sounds cool
An OS's design influences how its native applications behave. Port a Windows app over to the Mac, and people will bitch like crazy. It just doesn't fit. Similarly, a windows app runninng on a linux box just has a fonky feel to it.
Windows apps are what makes windows what it is, and vice versa. If you want to run windows apps, run windows or an emulator.
http://www.w3.org/RDF/
Uhm.
I can't speak for these "BSD Advocates", but am I not supposed to use GNU tools because I like BSD? No one told me.
It's also funny when GNU advocates get on people's assen about using GNU software.
Gentlemen, light your flamethrowers.
I don't care if my software is open. Open source hase wonderful advantages, but it's more important to me that software is good. OS X is the best operating system I've ever seen. I don't care if it's closed, I don't care if they had to drive a steamroller through a kitten factory to make it. It's that good.
It's amazing how people will put up with crap software just because it's open source, and denounce great software just because it's closed. Last time I checked, the purpose of open source was to create great software, not to stick to ideals.
I don't own a car, but I have worked on my friends' rides, and I don't like it at all. Computers don't have messy fluids, and they aren't grimey inside. It's the neat freak side of me that gets so bothered about cars. I don't like to fix vaccum cleaners, garbage disposals, or any of the other stuff that's always ookey.
On a technical level, cars are neato keen, like any machine. I enjoy learning the technical details of how they work a lot, but the practical application of that technology is far too messy.
this is totally ot, so mod down as appropriate. -1 would be ideal, since this article has already been ruined.
I can't imagine anything more losing than sitting and waiting for new slashdot news you can ruin. Some of your posts are undeniably funny, though.
What aren't funny are your posts that fuck up the page. Page lengthening. How amusing. I'm very impressed that you can get past the lameness filter, and I'm sure you feel you've accomplished something. Go you.
These posts leave me no choice but to browse at 0. There are some posts that get modded down unfairly, and I end up missing them. Thanks bunches.
This may be among the more pointless bitches of all time, I know, but I felt like bitching.
We all know that Captain Crunch is bloatware, loaded with features no one needs. "oops...all berries!" comes to mind. Choosing a distro (peanut butter, plain, crunchberries) is getting more and more difficult; it won't be long before we have dozens of varieties to choose from.
Real me use cheerios and like it. No frills, but you get a nutritious breakfast.
What's wrong with DOS?
I think I could give you a much shorter response by listing what's right with DOS:
With my family, it's almost always cash or cash equivalents. As I noted in a previous post, pringles are a rare exception.
Why? Simply put, we don't like eachother. It's enough that most of us are in the same room at the same time, we're not going to go so far as to give thoughtful gifts.
I know, that's dysfunctional. It's fucked up. It ain't right at all. I agree, things should be different.
Video games, television, and now the internet have managed to turn what was a family into a group of people who have nothing more than their gene pool in common.
The thing is, nobody's willing to give up the chattering cyclops. We love our televisions far more than our relatives. The television is perfect, and, given enough channels, will never let you down. The television is always ready to devote it's full attention to you. Add the internet, with 24 hour a day hardcore anal action and plenty of no strings attached easily escapable instant message "relationships", and human interaction just can't compete.
What you're asking is a fundamental change in our societal structure, and as long as living rooms glow tv blue, as long as the dsl guy can be here next week, as long as the show goes on, it isn't going to happen.
Merry xmas, see you thanksgiving.
I've got this aunt. She lives in New Jersey, which should explain a lot.
So, one xmas, when I was about 12, me and my brothers all get similar looking presents. I opened mine first. Removal of the paper revealed a Pringles can (I forget the flavor).
"Oh," I thought, "she used Pringles cans as shipping containers." Already a little nutty, but sort of resourceful.
So I open my can, expecting anything but what was inside: Pringles. Pringles that had been shipped from NJ to CA. Pringles that had been pulverized into Pringle dust.
I guess maybe she thought we didn't have prigles here or something. Maybe that New Jersey air was to blame. I never had the nuts to ask what the hell she was thinking.
If I could have tossed that $1.25 or so at a shipping fee for something non-pringles online, I would have. It's not that I'm an ingrate, it's that some people are genuinely insane.
I work at a chemical company, and we occasionally send samples through ups. Although they will handle some hazmat, they charge you both arms and a bucket of legs and wings.
Mostly stuff containing 50% sodium hydroxide, 75% phos. acid, or 35% hydrogen peroxide. Not all in the same container, naturally.
no
hydraulic, maybe
nobody has any money left
damned xmas.
Yeah, "looks like a windows app" is pretty much the blanket bad UI criticism for us. It looks a whole lot more like a windows app than it does a Mac app.
I totally understand the need for a portable UI. The advantages are obvious. It's just sad to see such a great browser unable to use what is (in my opinion, natch) the best windowing system available.
Mozilla does have a nice mail client, but it's not enough to pull me away from Mail.app. I haven't checked out the nntp client, tin has been serving me well.
On the omniweb note, they seem to be making good progress, omniweb 4.1 is due at macworld sf, and ow 5 looks like it could give IE some serious competition.
Mozilla on OS X still sucks nuts, mostly because it looks like a freakin windows app.
Here we've got this amazingly cool window server that moz can't make use of.
Wrap a cocoa ui around gecko and I'm sold. Omni group, I'm looking in your direction...
ok, what good would a webserver do for keeping logs?
second, cable and dish companies can already do this.
third, these pants are totally uncomfotable
but you did get karma. whore.
/. undies, too. so i can be l33t.
I want
microsoft suxors!