AMEN! Games like Islands of Kesmai and Kingdom of Drakkar FAR predated EQ in the graphical MMORPG genre. The amaking thing is, KoD is STILL in active development and being played today. I stopped playing Drakkar when they started making it more like EQ to appeal to a wider audience.
Oh, you're absolutely right mr anonymous one... there is absolutely no situation in the real world where something can immediately lose its value, and there are absolutely no laws to protect people from these sorts of things.
Common sense might be in YOUR vocab, but you clearly don't posess much of it.
After R'ing TFA, I'd say the submittor is almost certainly fulla shit, only because this thing looks like it's chock full of malware elements. That being said, I still wouldn't put it past the MPAA to try to pull something similar.
While I agree that the submitter is probably full of shit... your argument is kind of weak. Try a little word-replacement and see what you get...
"Follow the money. Sony has plenty to make off hardware and music sales to risk the kind of bad press and fines they'd get by installing a rootkit on your computer"
Sony makes a whole fuckload more money from their products than the MPAA gets from suing grandmothers, and that sure didn't stop them from one of the biggest PR blunders by a tech company in recent memory.
It's far more likely that a script kiddie or spammer type is responsible... but I would NOT put this sort of thing past the shitbags at the MPAA.
In fact, if a company DID actively encourage scamming people out of something that has a measurable value in real-world dollars... I think I'd want the COMPANY to be held legally liable for such actions.
Someone who participates in a ponzi scheme willingly sends their money to a person. Someone who tries to buy generic viagra from a spam email willingly sends his credit card to someone. Just because some company encourages something doesn't make it legal.
the question I'm asking is, if the game owners establish a market where real life money directly correlates with game money, should they be permitted to allow for exactly these types of schemes? If paypal were to set up "paypal credits" which could be exchanged for real money, I have a feeling the gub'mint would step in if someone attempted a ponzi scheme with those credits. Where do you draw the line where the law stops applying? Can users sign away their rights regarding scams in a EULA?
And EO has exactly jack shit to do with my point. I'm trying to look at a larger picture. In EO it's against the TOS to sell items for real life money. In SL, they FACILITATE a market where the in-game money is traded for real life money. I'm asking, in cases like THAT, should some real-life laws apply? As I said, I don't have the answer, but the GGP was spouting off about something that's unrelated to my question.
No, YOU have totally missed the boat. Blowing up a ship in an online game doesn't destroy a real-life object. Scamming someone out of money in SL DOES cost them something that has real-life value and can be directly exchanged for real-life money.
Well, I mostly agree... but... it's not so cut and dry as you make it seem. Think of a game like second life, where in-game money can be directly transferred back and forth for real world money. If someone ran a ponzi scheme in SL, should THAT be punishable with RL rules? Honestly, I haven't decided for myself yet what I think, but I think it's worth discussing where the line should be drawn.
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You know, with the number of us who post on every single fucking roland spam article bitching, you'd think the slashdot editors would give us a way to filter them. Then again, taking the time to read the thread and bitch about roland means slashdot is getting more advertising dollars from us.
Aren't viral marketing ads supposed to be, you know, entertaining? I watched it on youtube and it wasn't funny at all. If it wasn't for the slashvertisement posting of this video, I would never have seen it - people only send viral videos around to their friends if they are actually enjoyable to watch. This was just stupid, long, drawn-out, and boring.
As a mac user myself, who reads and posts on many mac-centric websites....
You obviously haven't looked very hard. I've seen apple fanbois who would brag about the opportunity to bend over and have steve jobs fuck them in the ass with a baseball bat with the letters "DRM" spelled out in razor blades.
and on one of the first shows when it came out, they had one of the wrestlers beat the crap out of a "zombie". I guess they were poking some fun at sci-fi.
It's funny you should mention the audience thing. I just saw a TV ad for dragoncon last night, and they mentioned one of the attractions of the event being professional wrestling. That struck me as kind of odd, but I guess sci-fi and wrasslin' both somewhat cater to young adult demographics, so maybe it's not that crazy after all.
I can only recall one time where there was full frontal nudity - in the pilot episode, where daniel's woman gets turned into a snakehead. This was on the season 1 DVD
ECW is the highest-rated show on Sci-fi. It's also the highest rated show on ad-supported cable that airs on tuesday primetime. ECW is making money for sci-fi. Hopefully, they will use that money to bankroll more good science fiction shows.
Did you even read my post, or the one I replied to? Or are you just piggybacking onto mine because it's modded up and near the top of the conversation? What you said has absolutely fucking zero to do with what I was discussing, which is the myth that goldfish have a three second memory.
AMEN! Games like Islands of Kesmai and Kingdom of Drakkar FAR predated EQ in the graphical MMORPG genre. The amaking thing is, KoD is STILL in active development and being played today. I stopped playing Drakkar when they started making it more like EQ to appeal to a wider audience.
Do you want to come back to my place, bouncy bouncy?
OMG, Ponies!!!
Oh, you're absolutely right mr anonymous one... there is absolutely no situation in the real world where something can immediately lose its value, and there are absolutely no laws to protect people from these sorts of things.
Common sense might be in YOUR vocab, but you clearly don't posess much of it.
After R'ing TFA, I'd say the submittor is almost certainly fulla shit, only because this thing looks like it's chock full of malware elements. That being said, I still wouldn't put it past the MPAA to try to pull something similar.
While I agree that the submitter is probably full of shit... your argument is kind of weak. Try a little word-replacement and see what you get...
"Follow the money. Sony has plenty to make off hardware and music sales to risk the kind of bad press and fines they'd get by installing a rootkit on your computer"
Sony makes a whole fuckload more money from their products than the MPAA gets from suing grandmothers, and that sure didn't stop them from one of the biggest PR blunders by a tech company in recent memory.
It's far more likely that a script kiddie or spammer type is responsible... but I would NOT put this sort of thing past the shitbags at the MPAA.
In fact, if a company DID actively encourage scamming people out of something that has a measurable value in real-world dollars... I think I'd want the COMPANY to be held legally liable for such actions.
Someone who participates in a ponzi scheme willingly sends their money to a person. Someone who tries to buy generic viagra from a spam email willingly sends his credit card to someone. Just because some company encourages something doesn't make it legal.
the question I'm asking is, if the game owners establish a market where real life money directly correlates with game money, should they be permitted to allow for exactly these types of schemes? If paypal were to set up "paypal credits" which could be exchanged for real money, I have a feeling the gub'mint would step in if someone attempted a ponzi scheme with those credits. Where do you draw the line where the law stops applying? Can users sign away their rights regarding scams in a EULA?
And EO has exactly jack shit to do with my point. I'm trying to look at a larger picture. In EO it's against the TOS to sell items for real life money. In SL, they FACILITATE a market where the in-game money is traded for real life money. I'm asking, in cases like THAT, should some real-life laws apply? As I said, I don't have the answer, but the GGP was spouting off about something that's unrelated to my question.
No, YOU have totally missed the boat. Blowing up a ship in an online game doesn't destroy a real-life object. Scamming someone out of money in SL DOES cost them something that has real-life value and can be directly exchanged for real-life money.
Well, I mostly agree... but... it's not so cut and dry as you make it seem. Think of a game like second life, where in-game money can be directly transferred back and forth for real world money. If someone ran a ponzi scheme in SL, should THAT be punishable with RL rules? Honestly, I haven't decided for myself yet what I think, but I think it's worth discussing where the line should be drawn.
You know, with the number of us who post on every single fucking roland spam article bitching, you'd think the slashdot editors would give us a way to filter them. Then again, taking the time to read the thread and bitch about roland means slashdot is getting more advertising dollars from us.
Aren't viral marketing ads supposed to be, you know, entertaining? I watched it on youtube and it wasn't funny at all. If it wasn't for the slashvertisement posting of this video, I would never have seen it - people only send viral videos around to their friends if they are actually enjoyable to watch. This was just stupid, long, drawn-out, and boring.
I've never known a mac user to be outright stupid
As a mac user myself, who reads and posts on many mac-centric websites....
You obviously haven't looked very hard. I've seen apple fanbois who would brag about the opportunity to bend over and have steve jobs fuck them in the ass with a baseball bat with the letters "DRM" spelled out in razor blades.
Yeah... a better example would be a doorbell. Especially if you're a mac user.
Taiwan is a free society.
Try telling that to china!
Yeah it's only legal in Georgia if she's related to you.
Leave it to slashdotters to mod up a post describing where to find full frontal alien nudity, and call it informative.
They have a vampire and a fortune teller...
and on one of the first shows when it came out, they had one of the wrestlers beat the crap out of a "zombie". I guess they were poking some fun at sci-fi.
It's funny you should mention the audience thing. I just saw a TV ad for dragoncon last night, and they mentioned one of the attractions of the event being professional wrestling. That struck me as kind of odd, but I guess sci-fi and wrasslin' both somewhat cater to young adult demographics, so maybe it's not that crazy after all.
I can only recall one time where there was full frontal nudity - in the pilot episode, where daniel's woman gets turned into a snakehead. This was on the season 1 DVD
ECW is the highest-rated show on Sci-fi. It's also the highest rated show on ad-supported cable that airs on tuesday primetime. ECW is making money for sci-fi. Hopefully, they will use that money to bankroll more good science fiction shows.
What else is there to watch on that network now?
Why, ECW, of course!
(cue flames)
Did you even read my post, or the one I replied to? Or are you just piggybacking onto mine because it's modded up and near the top of the conversation? What you said has absolutely fucking zero to do with what I was discussing, which is the myth that goldfish have a three second memory.