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zCodec Video Codec Is a Trojan

Bride of Chucky writes "There's a new video codec out there that claims to offer 'up to 40 percent better video quality' but that resets your computer's DNS settings — opening the way for Trojans, rootkits, or whatever. Techworld warns that zCodec looks professional enough, is widely available, and comes in at 100KB. What's the bet the media companies are behind this somewhere?"

188 comments

  1. Rather than the conspiracy theory. by Spazntwich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd give a lot more consideration to an enterprising spammer/botnet advertiser being behind this.

    Follow the money. The MPAA has plenty to make off p2p lawsuits to risk the kind of bad press and fines they'd get by doing something like this.

    Basically, the submitter is an irrational idiot pandering to the anarchist conspiracy theorists in an attempt to start a flamewar. Congratulations, you've probably got it.

    1. Re:Rather than the conspiracy theory. by andrewman327 · · Score: 1

      I agree with you. There are plenty of trojens out there other than condoms; why would this one be a corporate conspiracy? A quick Google search shows that this is nothing new. I think that companies learned their lesson from Sony's rootkit fiasco.

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    2. Re:Rather than the conspiracy theory. by MustardMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While I agree that the submitter is probably full of shit... your argument is kind of weak. Try a little word-replacement and see what you get...

      "Follow the money. Sony has plenty to make off hardware and music sales to risk the kind of bad press and fines they'd get by installing a rootkit on your computer"

      Sony makes a whole fuckload more money from their products than the MPAA gets from suing grandmothers, and that sure didn't stop them from one of the biggest PR blunders by a tech company in recent memory.

      It's far more likely that a script kiddie or spammer type is responsible... but I would NOT put this sort of thing past the shitbags at the MPAA.

    3. Re:Rather than the conspiracy theory. by kripkenstein · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd give a lot more consideration to an enterprising spammer/botnet advertiser being behind this.

      Exactly.

      We have no evidence for the media corporations being involved in such actions; and it wouldn't make much sense for them to do so, either. This adware will make money; money is something that media companies already have, but adware companies constantly work to get. What the media companies need is not more money, but to scare people off of using p2p software - and this isn't the way to do that. No, the way to scare people would be to damage their computers, not to make money off of them.

    4. Re:Rather than the conspiracy theory. by MustardMan · · Score: 1

      After R'ing TFA, I'd say the submittor is almost certainly fulla shit, only because this thing looks like it's chock full of malware elements. That being said, I still wouldn't put it past the MPAA to try to pull something similar.

    5. Re:Rather than the conspiracy theory. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I think that companies learned their lesson from Sony's rootkit fiasco.

      In that instance, I thinks it was a mere (although major) fuck-up of buying the wrong DRM-solution. Sony's managers don't get DRM, the DRM-solution's developers don't either and decided to modify the OS. It was bad execution, not bad intent*.

      * No, the intention to introduce DRM itself is not bad, you fucking hippies. Shut the fuck up, please.

    6. Re:Rather than the conspiracy theory. by svunt · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Basically, the submitter is an irrational idiot pandering to the anarchist conspiracy theorists in an attempt to start a flamewar.
      Wow, is this an extension of an eye for an eye? Now we're up to 'a kneejerk asstard for a kneejerk asstard'. The submitter has as much right to make stupid links between some malware and the **AA as you have linking his silly analysis to anarchism.
    7. Re:Rather than the conspiracy theory. by zarozarozaro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe it is Abrahamen Biderman... http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp zcodec.com

    8. Re:Rather than the conspiracy theory. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes Record Companies are always sooo nice when it comes to DRM rootkits.

    9. Re:Rather than the conspiracy theory. by in2mind · · Score: 1
      Sony makes a whole fuckload more money from their products than the MPAA gets from suing grandmothers, and that sure didn't stop them from one of the biggest PR blunders by a tech company in recent memory.

      FYI - Sony has been making loss in the recent years - until this year.

    10. Re:Rather than the conspiracy theory. by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 1

      I'm all for conspiracy theories, but yeah, this one is retarded. The question to ask in any situation is "Who benefits most from this?"

      If it's checking adult websites, how the hell is that related to "big media"?

      Cretinous submitter...

    11. Re:Rather than the conspiracy theory. by teflaime · · Score: 1

      I think that companies learned their lesson from Sony's rootkit fiasco.

      Appearently, Sony hasn't learned from the rootkit fiasco, because the rootkit is still showing up on new records released by BMG affiliates...Recent (as in last quarter) releases from RCA are still installing the dang thing.

    12. Re:Rather than the conspiracy theory. by budgenator · · Score: 1

      Yeah now they're waiting for Vista.

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  2. What! by Funkcikle · · Score: 5, Funny

    40% better video performance but NO LINK TO IT? Come on!

    1. Re:What! by JonWan · · Score: 5, Funny

      here it is :http://www.zcodec.com/index.html

      But It dosen't run on linux.

    2. Re:What! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Curiously enough they know better than to be running Windows Server. The website is hosted on a FreeBSD server.

    3. Re:What! by zmollusc · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Are you stupid or something? It isn't going to be anywhere near 40% improvement. That is just to lure you in. Real-world improvement will be 10% max, you gullible fool.

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    4. Re:What! by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From the summary: "zCodec looks professional enough..."

      So I clicked on the zcodec.com link above and the first thing I noticed was the use of some copyrighted movie posters on their page. And then I saw the link for the "therms of use." "Professional enough" indeed...

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    5. Re:What! by dwandy · · Score: 1

      I think the best part is the " Therms of use " link...

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    6. Re:What! by whoever57 · · Score: 1
      But It dosen't run on linux.
      Are you sure? I have this package called "win32codecs" on my system, as well as Wine. Surely I can get it to run?
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    7. Re:What! by whoever57 · · Score: 1
      I think the best part is the " Therms of use " link...
      Does that mean I have to pay PG&E (Pacific Gas and Electricity) to use it... oh wait. I do already!

      But on a more serious note, since the operation of the "codec" is misrepresented, I wonder how enforcable the terms are? Especially the "no reverse engineering" restriction (which is invalid in some states anyway).

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    8. Re:What! by BlackHat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Forgetting to change
      http-//www.vcodec.com in it{see last line of 'therms'} to zcodec.com is the best laugh I've had today.

    9. Re:What! by MrYotsuya · · Score: 2, Funny

      And then I saw the link for the "therms of use." "Professional enough" indeed

      Hey now, be nice. People with lisps can be professionals too.

    10. Re:What! by JonWan · · Score: 1

      Well it will install under wine, I just did it. But the only thing I can find in my .wine c_drive folder is a dir called HQ codec and the files register.exe, Uninstall.exe. Register.exe crashes wine, and Uninstall.exe removes the HQ codec directory and the start menu links. I don't have a real install of windows and so far thats all I can find on my system. I'll dig around but it didn't appear to send any data out when I ran either exe. Maybe register.exe is it and it crashed before it could do anything. I wanted to at least see a zcodec.dll file.

    11. Re:What! by JonWan · · Score: 1

      oops never depend on their log. it dosen't delete anything execpt Uninstall.exe , register.exe is still there. Hmmmm

    12. Re:What! by Shiny+One · · Score: 1

      There's nothing suspicious about that codec. Just read the "Therms of use".

    13. Re:What! by jZnat · · Score: 1

      Try doing a diff before and after to see what gets installed.

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    14. Re:What! by hackstraw · · Score: 1

      So I clicked on the zcodec.com link above and the first thing I noticed was the use of some copyrighted movie posters on their page. And then I saw the link for the "therms of use." "Professional enough" indeed...

      Yeah, I saw the "therms of use page" linky here: http://www.zcodec.com/therms.html -- notice that the web page is therms.html . At least they are consistently wrong :)

      I thought it kinda looked OK, but I noticed there was not FAQ, and there was no info on what to do with said codec. Hey, its only a 100k download, right?

    15. Re:What! by Scoutn · · Score: 1

      And the copyright says 2005. New? Heh.

    16. Re:What! by tepples · · Score: 1
      be nice. People with lisps can be professionals too.

      As if that's anything new.

    17. Re:What! by Fulkkari · · Score: 1

      If you do a reverse lookup on www.zcodec.com (85.255.117.106), you'll get "85.255.117.106-xbox.dedi.inhoster.com". That doesn't sound right for a legit download. Not that you'd normally do such lookups...

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    18. Re:What! by neovoxx · · Score: 1

      No to mention their "Therms of use"

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    19. Re:What! by spudnic · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows zCodec is 4 better than vCodec. Geez.

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    20. Re:What! by DF5JT · · Score: 1

      It gets better.

      If you take a look at the license agreement, you will find that the last paragraph named "ENTIRE AGREEMENT" contains a link, pointing to http://www.vcodec.com/terms.html

      That link leads you to an advertisement page containing three ads, the second of which has this:

      Remove Vcodec Now
      Remove Vcodec Spyware Forever. Scan Now. Takes 3 Mins. Gone.
      www.AdwareAlert.com

      Go figure...

  3. Huh? by WD · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What are "the media companies" and why would they be behind this?

    1. Re:Huh? by mqduck · · Score: 1

      What are "the media companies" and why would they be behind this?

      It was probably meant as a joke. The idea, as I see it, was that the MPAA could have put this out to discourage the use of compressed video files. Best not to take it seriously, instead of fmaling it as stupid (as I'm sure some are getting ready to).

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    2. Re:Huh? by mqduck · · Score: 1

      Also, best to ignore my inability to type "flaming" instead of making fun of me for it. My fragile ego can't take it.

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    3. Re:Huh? by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1
      It was probably meant as a joke.

      Unfortunately, it probably wasn't. Survey any of the RIAA/MPAA posts here and you'll quickly find a widespread and virulent tin foil brigade who think those organisations are out to get them, in any and every way possible.

    4. Re:Huh? by porl · · Score: 1

      what? i thought it was a contraction for "flame mailing"..... :)

    5. Re:Huh? by sdnoob · · Score: 1

      the **aa, studios, publishers, etc. don't necessarily want __us__ -- they just want our money, and they will use any and every possible way to get it.

    6. Re:Huh? by mqduck · · Score: 1

      Eh. I think people overestimate how serious the conspiracy theory people are. Most of them are only half-serious. Yet some of the theories are probably true. I mean, a board of directors is a conspiracy, isn't it?

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    7. Re:Huh? by computational+super · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If it installs/allows malware, then you're right; "the media companies" probably aren't behind it. However - I've been wondering for a while how long it would be before "the media companies" got around to releasing a codec that "phones home" and lets them know what video file you're playing and from where you're playing it so that they can flush out "piracy". Codec's are native code that we blindly download and let run, after all... it seems like it would be trivial to insert a bit of code that sends a quick HTTP GET request to some random web site with the details of what it was playing.

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    8. Re:Huh? by mqduck · · Score: 1

      Let's all hope that, when they do that, it'll get discovered and publicized quickly.

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  4. I am surprised this one did not make it to the pos by mapkinase · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    TA:
    Panda's advisory last week revealed that the 100KB file is in fact adware, which "downloads and runs files, changes the DNS configuration and monitors accesses to several adult websites". zCodec, formally known as Adware/ZCodec or Adware/EMediacodec, affects most versions of Windows and was first detected last week, Panda said.
    I am a little bit confused with the modality of the post. Is anyone in doubt that this is quite nasty piece of soft?
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  5. Use Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... then this problem won't arise.

    1. Re:Use Linux by rm69990 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Or use Windows and don't download dangerous software. Any piece of software with a set of "therms of use" should be avoided (see the software's home page to know what I'm talking about). Or of course buy a Mac (sorry, Apple fanboy here :-P)

    2. Re:Use Linux by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      Or the claim of a 40% increase in quality (WTF does that even mean? I'm 80% more awesome than these guys) with lower bitrate without any of the fanfare you'd usually expect from such an amazing advance.

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    3. Re:Use Linux by killproc · · Score: 1


      60% of the time, it works...everytime.

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    4. Re:Use Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Use Linux
      I'm trying, but it's goddamn hard when you're trying to install video drivers from a bash shell! (Especially if you're new to Linux.)
  6. Why are the media companies being accused? by Refelian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is there any evidence that they are behind this codec?

    Don't you think that after the sony rootkit most companies wouldnt bother with such schemes....

    1. Re:Why are the media companies being accused? by TheLink · · Score: 1

      After the sony rootkit thing, who was charged with unauthorized tampering with computers? Which individuals were punished?

      Just because I let you into my house to install a CD player doesn't mean you should unlatch the backdoor, open windows, even if you give me a stupid piece of paper to sign with lots of fine print saying that you can do that sort of stuff.

      Maybe that's legal in the USA, but I think it's not in other countries, and AFAIK the Sony rootkit has affected other countries, so why hasn't anyone been charged with the crime? AFAIK, in some countries the Judge could say that the piece of paper is "unreasonable" and it is likely that what Sony did is illegal.

      So naturally companies and the bosses of such companies should be emboldened by the result of the "Sony rootkit" incident. They now know they can do stuff that will put a typical amateur hacker in jail, and get away with just some negative publicity.

      Multinational corps, spammers, spyware/adware companies can all install rootkits/malware but not silly high school/college kids doing it for kicks or for "rep".

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  7. Gimme an S. by uncoveror · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Gimme an S.

    S!

    Gimme an O.

    O!

    Gimme an N.

    N!

    Gimme a Y

    Why? They put rootkits on CDs. They are just the kind of company that would make a video codec that is a trojan.

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    1. Re:Gimme an S. by kimvette · · Score: 1

      s/trojan/DRM scheme and EULA, making removal and/or circumvention a crime under the DMCA/

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    2. Re:Gimme an S. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A shot nearly cheap enough for al-Reuters.

    3. Re:Gimme an S. by Al+Dimond · · Score: 1

      You probably should escape the slash in your substitution string there.

  8. it makes sense by crankshot999 · · Score: 0

    If it opens backdoors it would make sense that media companies can use it to check for pirated software.

    1. Re:it makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >what is the volume of water?

      piece of string cubed.

  9. Freaky coincidence by Asmor · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I was able to connect fine this morning, then for some reason many sites stopped working. After various troubleshooting, I discovered that my computer had been changed from obtaining the DNS automatically to specifying 4.2.2.2

    Anyone have any idea what might have happened? I didn't download or install anything in the time frame that this happened.

    1. Re:Freaky coincidence by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      I believe 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 are the addresses for a major public DNS server, but I've completely blanked on the name.

    2. Re:Freaky coincidence by Asmor · · Score: 1

      I thought the same thing. I still can't comprehend how the setting got changed, though.

    3. Re:Freaky coincidence by shawn443 · · Score: 1

      Not sure how, but whois returns 4.2.2.2 as level3.net

      http://www.senderbase.org/search?oOrder=lastday%20 desc&searchString=level3.net

      You should just write to 1025 El Dorado Blvd. Broomfield CO 80021 US and ask them yourself.

    4. Re:Freaky coincidence by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      $ host 4.2.2.1
      1.2.2.4.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer vnsc-pri.sys.gtei.net.
      $ host 4.2.2.2
      2.2.2.4.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer vnsc-bak.sys.gtei.net.
      The owner of those domains is Verizon Trademark Services LLC. If Verizon is your ISP, this would be the correct DNS to use.
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    5. Re:Freaky coincidence by Kumochisonan · · Score: 1

      One of my customers got this tonight.I wonder what it is...

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    6. Re:Freaky coincidence by jZnat · · Score: 1

      4.2.2.2 is one of Verizon's DNS addresses, and besides being easy to remember, it's pretty reliable (at least far more reliable than Comcast's).

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    7. Re:Freaky coincidence by Monkelectric · · Score: 1

      4.* is Verizon/gte I believe. You use either of those for you DSL? :)

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    8. Re:Freaky coincidence by ShaunC · · Score: 2, Informative

      4.2.2.1 to 4.2.2.6 are public nameservers operated by Verizon.

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    9. Re:Freaky coincidence by Asmor · · Score: 1

      Nope, Comcast cable.

  10. Hmm. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What's the bet the media companies are behind this somewhere?

    A tin-foil hat is a mark of someone who can, in all seriousness, say 'if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it must be a concealed listening device placed by the government under the instruction of the military-industrial complex and funded by the media industry.' The poster should wear his with pride.

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    1. Re:Hmm. by thelost · · Score: 1

      if its quack echoes then it *is* a duck, otherwise it's time to make like a tree and go.

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    2. Re:Hmm. by Tack · · Score: 1
      if its quack echoes then it *is* a duck, otherwise it's time to make like a tree and go.
      That should be "make like a tree and get out of here."
    3. Re:Hmm. by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      But that doesnt mean hes wrong.

      Sometimes the paranoids are right. Dont discount them so quickly.

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  11. "looks professional enough"?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "looks professional enough"?? No way! It has a direct link to the .exe from the front page, without any annoying EULA or email-address harvesting page to click through first. That's a dead giveaway that this isn't legit! (Sad but true.)

  12. suprise suprise, another American company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    just like "most" spyware/viruses (180solutions etc) its from an American company, are you guys serious about upholding the law or just breaking it ?
    Administrative Contact:
        ZCodec Inc
        Abrahamen Biderman (webmaster@zcodec.com)
        5624 17th Ave
        Brooklyn
        New York
        NY,11204-1834
        US
        Tel. +718.2364275
    1. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      the phone number is registered to
      Amilcar Perez
      7319 13th Ave
      Brooklyn, NY 11228-2010
      (718) 236-4275
    2. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by OmnipotentEntity · · Score: 1

      I have my doubts about that. It's just a little thing. But "Therms of use" strikes me as not something an American would write... twice. (Check the url of the link.)

      I'm going out of a limb and say that that's just someone registering false info. Also, there is no 17th Ave in Brooklyn.

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    3. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm yes there is, that address is valid.

    4. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by generic-man · · Score: 1

      "New York, NY" refers to Manhattan. "Manhattan, NY" is not used in mailing addresses.

      Here's the address mapped in Brooklyn, NY.

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    5. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by flyingfsck · · Score: 0

      Google turns up bazillions of 'therms of use'...

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    6. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by flooey · · Score: 4, Informative

      Also, there is no 17th Ave in Brooklyn.

      Actually, there is. One of the oddities about New York City is that a mailing address of New York, NY means Manhattan. To properly address something in Brooklyn (and thus for Google Maps to find it) you need to use Brooklyn, NY.

    7. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by OmnipotentEntity · · Score: 1
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    8. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by OmnipotentEntity · · Score: 1

      Funny, I see about 650. And even less if you specify that the URL must contain "Therms". If fact, with that second one, there are only 5 pages returned, three in French, one from a .de domain, and our very own zcodec.

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    9. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by generic-man · · Score: 1

      Google Maps's arrows are never lined up with actual buildings on satellite views. I just looked my house up and the arrow is down the block. Better luck next time, Internet detective.

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    10. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by lagartoflojo · · Score: 1
      Also, in the "therms" of use, the company named is VCODEC:
      [...] No personal information will be communicated to VCODEC or its affiliates during this process. [...]
      [...] ENTIRE AGREEMENT: This License Agreement (located at http://www.vcodec.com/terms.html) [...]
      Now with the clone pcodec also appearing (http://www.pcodec.com) there is no doubt this is fishy.
    11. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by OmnipotentEntity · · Score: 1

      Oh well, you win some you lose some. :)

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    12. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 1

      Amilcar Perez???

      dear god! its a terr'ist!

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    13. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 1

      You really should use the neighborhood instead (e.g. East New York, Bensonhurst, etc).

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    14. Re:suprise suprise, another American company by flooey · · Score: 1

      You really should use the neighborhood instead (e.g. East New York, Bensonhurst, etc).

      You could certainly do that, and I'm sure it would work, I was just saying the official mailing address for all of Brooklyn is Brooklyn, NY (honestly, as long as you have the zip code right you could probably put gibberish for the city and it would get there). The official mailing addresses for places in Queens is in fact their neighborhood, though.

  13. "Therms" of Use and Support by Nighttime · · Score: 1

    Just had a quick run through their therms[sic] and at the bottom there's a URL for http://www.vcodec.com/terms.html. However, that URL just leads to a page of sponsored links.

    They also have a Support form on their site. Wonder if they actually are reading the support enquiries or just harvesting emails?

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    1. Re:"Therms" of Use and Support by postmortem · · Score: 1

      actual site is http://www.zcodec.com/therms.html. You are right about "Therms". Definitely not of western origin.

    2. Re:"Therms" of Use and Support by Sepper · · Score: 1

      Just google for 'vcodec', you'll see this is just an old trojan renamed...

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  14. No need for conspiracies... by AgentPaper · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ...user stupidity makes a dandy explanation. If there is a universal truth in today's networked world, it is that the gullibility of the average Netizen knows no bounds. I'd be willing to bet that you could write a program that claims to turn your printer into a replicator, and some doofus would buy it.

    This ranks right up there with the scores of malware programs that pretend to be malware removers. I assume the original poster would have us believe that all those are really written by the likes of Symantec and McAfee?

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    1. Re:No need for conspiracies... by atomicstrawberry · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This ranks right up there with the scores of malware programs that pretend to be malware removers. I assume the original poster would have us believe that all those are really written by the likes of Symantec and McAfee?

      What, like Norton Antivirus? It's often installed without you asking for it, it consumes vast amounts of resources, it embeds itself into your operating system's interface, it hides itself from other programs, it phones home regularly, and it's extremely difficult to remove.

    2. Re:No need for conspiracies... by FlameSnyper · · Score: 1
      written by the likes of Symantec and McAfee

      Hey! That's CyMantec and Mkaffree!

      Or at least, that's what the knockoff car stereo makers always do... ever been to a flea market and seen a genuine Alphine or Phioneer car stereo on sale?

    3. Re:No need for conspiracies... by AgentPaper · · Score: 1
      Preaching to the choir, here; I firmly believe that the Norton family is one of the worst collections of programs in existence. I've used several incarnations up to Internet Security 2005, and I have yet to find one that doesn't add at least three minutes to boot time. And let's not even mention the CCAPP.EXE that absolutely refuses to die when you attempt to shut down Windows. Currently I'm using AVG on my Windows systems.

      However, you can't really claim malice on behalf of Symantec et al. (Well, maybe you can, but that seems to have more in common with gratuitous Microsoft-bashing - logic along the lines of "We think $COMPANY_NAME software is badly written, badly written software is evil, therefore $COMPANY_NAME is evil.") Yeah, their software sucks, but there's no evidence that a team of engineers at Symantec sat down and said "How can we make our software crash machines, corrupt data and turn computers into zombie systems?"

      In the end, Norton et al do what they advertise, which is stop viruses. Yes, they're bloated and intrusive, but show me commercially available software that isn't. (By which I mean that you can walk into your average computer retail chain and pick up a copy.) There's a difference between shoddy-product bad and maliciously bad, and that's all I was trying to indicate.

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  15. The underlying problem is much deeper by scenestar · · Score: 1

    This is another great example of how lack of technical knowledge can be used to take advantage of "home users".

    Joey Dell doesn't see the difference between technical details of OSS and Proprietary Software, all he sees is the malware being marketed as "Faster SMaller Better"

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  16. zcodec.com still up?!? by _Griphin_ · · Score: 1

    And why is the webpage still active?!?

    1. Re:zcodec.com still up?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oooh!

      You mean the famous SlashDot Effect hasn't taken down the meany malware site?
      They must have some muscle behind their servers. Should we Digg them too?

  17. Come on, mods, it has to be asked by knightmad · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will it run on Linux? We don't want to feel left out again. These damned malware-laden proprietary crap!

  18. Oh please... by kentrel · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What's the bet the media companies are behind this somewhere?

    That's incredibly presumptuous and a completely baseless accusation. There are lots of people who can clearly benefit from trojans, and someone obviously has seen the potential in video codecs as a nice "social engineering" way of fooling the gullible masses into downloading them. The average person generally searches for video codecs once in a blue moon - they have no way of knowing which sites are legitimate, or which files are legitimate. They'll download whatever sounds promising. In fact, the website looks far more legitimate than some of the genuine codec sites out there.

    Smarter users might do regular intensive searching to make sure they are getting a legitimate file, but the average user will not. It's far more likely that the author of this trojan is just exploiting the fact that so many users of codecs are clueless than yet another paranoid conspiracy that the media companies are behind it. Really, will the slashdot editors ever get over their bias and just print actual NEWS.

    1. Re:Oh please... by smash · · Score: 1
      That's incredibly presumptuous and a completely baseless accusation

      Whilst I agree it's a stretch, it's not totally baseless

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  19. Send someone to jail by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Enough is a enough. A message needs to be sent to these bastards. Suing and fines only do so much. They fine these bastards, they file for bankruptcy and its over. They close the company and the fines and suits go away. Can't sue what doesn't exist and current corp. laws protect us from going after personal assets.

    Time to bring some real charges against these fuckers and send a few of them to prison for a good long stretch. And I'm not talking 6 months in a jail with 500 hours of community service. I'm talking 10 years in maximum security.

    I know some people say the punishment doesn't fit the crime but I think its time it did. If we would have locked up some of them bastards from Sony then I bet this one wouldn't' happen.

    --

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    1. Re:Send someone to jail by remembertomorrow · · Score: 1

      Which 'fuckers'?

      A baseless claim against "the media companies" has your panties in a bunch?

      --
      Registered Linux user #421033
    2. Re:Send someone to jail by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 0

      How about the programmer that wrote he code? Or the president of the company that owns the code? Even the name on the web register would do.

      And don't give me any shit about the programmer just doing what he was paid to do. He knew what he was writting.

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    3. Re:Send someone to jail by jasonditz · · Score: 1

      Why not execute them?

    4. Re:Send someone to jail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You did. Now you should learn capitalization.

    5. Re:Send someone to jail by Don_dumb · · Score: 1

      Nice non-specific rant, I do enjoy the irony of someone called 'Lord Apathy' passionately demanding some action.

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  20. and nobody's doing anything.....why? by Desolator144 · · Score: 4, Informative
    www.zcodec.com registrant info:

    ZCodec Inc

    Abrahamen Biderman

    webmaster@zcodec.com

    5624 17th Ave

    Brooklyn

    New York

    NY,11204-1834

    Tel. +718.2364275

    Creation Date: 23-Dec-2005

    Expiration Date: 23-Dec-2006

    Okay first of all, it was registered almost a full year ago and second, even now I could probably drive to his house/office (assuming that info is accurate) and arrest him myself faster than the FBI could. Why does everyone always sit around and do nothing when stuff like this happens? Someone should at least give him a call :-) It's not even nigeria this time, how expensive could it be?

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    1. Re:and nobody's doing anything.....why? by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm guessing the info is fake. (What are the penalties for faking WhoIs info?)

      Yahoo turned up the following:

      Amilcar Perez

      7319 13th Ave
      Brooklyn, NY (map)

      Tel.: (718) 236-4275

      Does that help anyone?

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    2. Re:and nobody's doing anything.....why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are the penalties for faking WhoIs info

      you lose the domain

      http://www.internic.net/cgi/rpt_whois/rpt.cgi

    3. Re:and nobody's doing anything.....why? by Desolator144 · · Score: 1

      when the hell has yahoo ever helped anyone with anything?...anyway, the whois info on the site I used to have was faked, lol. It was all ****'s and ----'s and like 99999 for the zip and stuff. Because of the nature of the site, I couldn't have people just looking up the whois info and doing who the hell knows what just cuz they're pissed. I encourage everyone to fake their whois info because it's just one giant security hole. Why hack someone's site if you disagree with it if you can just call them up and say you're going to kill them or ship them a bomb or something. I think the FBI knows this so they never penalize anyone for it. Plus, what are they gonna do if they can't find me and I never reveal enough info to narrow down my personal info on the site :)

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    4. Re:and nobody's doing anything.....why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He actually answers the phone. ahahaaha

  21. No bet... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...because even if it were true, we'd likely never see proof. As such, that kind of speculation in a story submission is immature on the part of the submitter and allowing it to go out unedited is irresponsible of the editor. (Bonus points if they're the same person, I didn't check.)

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  22. Wha? by jb.hl.com · · Score: 1

    "The media companies are behind this"? Are you letting twitter loose on the Submit Story function now?

    Whoever wrote that needs their heads checking.

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  23. Wassamatta... you can't work Mapquest or Experian? by spywhere · · Score: 1

    There is a 17th Avenue in Brooklyn.
    The address given in the Whois search exists. It's apparently an office building.

  24. Re: Therms!! Hooray! by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    I have actually seen legitimate companies make spelling errors on pages. Sometimes, if I like the company, I email them a notice.

    But what web coder would equally mis-spell the *filename* ??!

    a class="link" href="therms.html" .... Therms of use

    THAT is what cues the alarms.

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  25. Fire! by Randseed · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Fire twinklers and a full spread of light balls! Fukkkkov!

  26. Appears to be from Inhoster, known spyware source. by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looks like this is coming from a known source of spyware in Ukraine, "Inhoster.com".

    "zcodec.com" is actually "85.255.117.106-xbox.dedi.inhoster.com", a dedicated server at a "nlayer.net" colocation site in San Francisco. The dedicated server appears to be associated with "atrivo".

    Both "inhoster.com" and "atrivo" appear to be "psuedo-ISPs"; they have web sites that look like those of an ISP, but they don't really offer services for sale. Both have bad reputations: see "Spywarequake Scam on the Run. The previous attacks were based on phony anti-spyware programs. Now that people are wise to that one, the new frontier is apparently phony codecs.

    The WHOIS information for "zcodec.net" appears to be bogus. It's given as "Abrahamen Biderman" at "5624 17th Ave, Brooklyn, New York" There is an "Abraham Biderman" with an office at 5624 17th Ave, Brooklyn, New York, and he's a political figure and investment banker, with a career running major financial institutions. Probably not behind some two-bit spyware scam.

  27. Re: Therms!! Hooray! by jZnat · · Score: 1

    They obviously outsourced their web design.

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  28. There's a typo by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    It's spelled "provisional".

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  29. Re: Which brand of bogus? by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    I'm lost, and I don't live next to the seeds of the Apple to sort it out.

    A. There's no 17th Ave in Brooklyn
    B. The address does exist, except its occupant is deemed not likely.

    Which one?

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  30. Therms of use? by Sparco · · Score: 0, Redundant

    www.zcodec.com

    Granted the site does look somewhat professional; but could use a quick spell check. 'Therms of use' ... come on now.

    WHOIS:

            ZCodec Inc
            Abrahamen Biderman (webmaster@zcodec.com)
            5624 17th Ave
            Brooklyn
            New York
            NY,11204-1834
            US
            Tel. +718.2364275

  31. thats news - heres a tip by gsn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    wow a codec is spyware - inconcievable!!! Who the heck told you to download an unheard of codec which you probably didn't need. The vast majority of spyware is around because people download things they don't actually need from an untrusted third party source. I can't begin to count the number of computers I've had to fix because some twit downloaded a codec pack or opened an scr file in their email or downloaded some game crack to pirate a game and found it installed bonzi buddy.

    Virtually every bloody codec pack you could download contained spyware/adware - some of them put in by the developers themselves. I've got some lovely versions of Nimo, K-lite and gordian knot to prove it. Hell, DivX pre 5.2 had GAIN in it and if you didn't know where to look on their website you had no way of finding the version without it (it didnt have the encoder so wasn't gain supported) . VLC is all I download for video playback now. If they don't support it I don't need to watch it - I've an flv file convertor for those of you who know how to download the dang yourtube/google videos that vlc cant handle perfectly.

    Learnt the hard way not to download things from any third party site even if its trusted back in high school. I run XP because I like playing games. If I had a tinfoil hat I'd read the source and then compile and do MD5 checks but I'm lazy and will take the binary packages, and I suspect one day I will pay for that laziness, despite my use of Tea Timer and the Spybot S&D hosts file and immunization databse, Lavasofts ad aware, windows defender and rootkit revealer, hijack this, peer guardian 2, and spyware blaster. One day I will be an idiot and download a binary with some spyware that is still under the radar for all of these and I will be pissed when I realize it. Atleast, I will realize it, but most users wont.

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    1. Re:thats news - heres a tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't even realize that Tea Timer and the Spybot S&D hosts file and immunization databse, Lavasofts ad aware, windows defender and rootkit revealer, hijack this, peer guardian 2, and spyware blaster have nothing to do with security, but only stupidity.

    2. Re:thats news - heres a tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that is starting to get to the point.. Average Joe doesn't care about codecs and "helper apps". He just wants to watch that cool video he found. What's this? Oh, this site requires the "FuBar" codec.. l better do a search for it... here it is.. Clicky.. Save as.. Install..
      There we go.. Average Joe can now watch that cool video and as a bonus gets a trojan/rootkit/baddy-of-the-day for his trouble. The bad thing is he doesn't even know it.
      Granted, I'm going a bit tangent, but this is basically how my father (Average Joe) got this particular nasty. Now I get to go behind him and clean up his computer. (Note: this is the last straw for me. If I end up rebuilding his computer (again) he's getting locked down. I'm done talking and threatening.)

    3. Re:thats news - heres a tip by pbhj · · Score: 1

      >>> Who the heck told you to download an unheard of codec

      Usually that would be Windows Media Player. I wonder if they can create a video file that forces WMP to get this codec? Then it's just a case of releasing george_bush_naked.avi (ewww) on bittorrent and let the trojan horses run/roll.

  32. I bet PC will by ericdano · · Score: 3, Funny

    I bet PC will be pissed. Poor guy. Spyware, Viruses, physical damage and now....this?

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  33. The therms(sic) do seem to admit part of this by Bruce+Stephens · · Score: 1
    Licensor may offer additional components through our version checking/update system. These components include: Toolbar, Popup advertising solution, Commercial homepage manager, Commercial messenger.
    How can anyone resist?
  34. Why take the detour? by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When the straight line connects much better?

    Music companies have huge legal departments that can (and do) get their info from ISPs with subpoenas. Trojan distributors are constantly trying to find new ways to push their junk onto your computer, often by paying heavily for 0day exploits.

    Who is more likely to buy a "cheap" way to bug your PC?

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  35. Blame the new guy... by Kunta+Kinte · · Score: 2, Funny

    What are "the media companies" and why would they be behind this?

    The article was posted by a 'kdawson', I bet that's the new guy.

    We all know that Taco and his crack team of editors would never let such an unfounded and inflammatory statement on the front page of this outstanding news establishment.

    So cut the guys some slack. After all, I bet you this Dawson kid will be reprimanded and articles will be back to the high standard of journalism we're use to in no time.

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    1. Re:Blame the new guy... by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 1
      We all know that Taco and his team of editors on crack


      There, fixed it for you...
  36. 4.2.2.2 by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a legitimate DNS server sitting at 4.2.2.2. I think it belongs to GTE (now Verizon). It has the misfortune of having an easy IP address to remember. In a pinch, if you can't remember the IP of your own DNS, there's always 4.2.2.2. Most people who use it have it as their alternate DNS. Verizon likes to give it names like i-will-not-steal-service.sys.gtei.net.

    You've already gotten a reply to your original post that indicates at least one other person has seen this happen to their DNS settings. If I'd never typed in 4.2.2.2 myself, and I had no previous business relationship with Verizon or GTE, I'd call shenanigans. A malware writer needing to disable automatic DNS for some reason would have to specify a replacement IP and 4.2.2.2 is convenient to hard code.

  37. Media Companies by bendodge · · Score: 0

    Why in the world would a media company want to publicize a good codec? I thought all they liked was real player!

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  38. Re: Therms!! Hooray! by Funkcikle · · Score: 1
    They obviously outsourced their web design.

    To Terry Pratchett, by the look of it.
  39. What's behind what by noidentity · · Score: 1
    What's the bet the media companies are behind this somewhere?

    What's to bet that a grudge and agenda is behind this unfounded swipe?

  40. Whats the bet? by matw8 · · Score: 1

    since you asked... about 1 in 1,000,000 But I grant you there is still a chance.

  41. This wouldn't happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Windows were more secure.

  42. My bet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet all the /. posts that defend the media companies and accuse the poster of baseless accussations, are sponsored by the media companies.

  43. Re: Therms!! Hooray! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    To Terry Pratchett, by the look of it.

    I was thinking more along the lines of Terri Schiavo.

  44. codecs have been used for years as spyware drops by GrumpySimon · · Score: 1

    This isn't news - "codecs" have been used for years as spyware/trojan droppers. Great social engineering - "hey, to view this porn, you need to install this codec". It's sufficiently tech sounding, and computery to sound believable, so it works.

    --Simon

  45. At least they're honest... eventually... by ATMD · · Score: 1
    From the Therms of use:
    SOFTWARE INSTALLATION: Components bundled with our software may report to Licensor and/or its affiliates the installation status of certain marketing offers, such as toolbars, and also generalized installation information, such as language preference and operating system version, to assist Licensor in its product development. No personal information will be communicated to VCODEC or its affiliates during this process. Licensor may offer additional components through our version checking/update system. These components include: Toolbar, Popup advertising solution, Commercial homepage manager, Commercial messenger.
    Yay, malware!

    Also:
    zCodec enhances your music listening experience by improving the sound quality of video files sound, MP3, internet radio, Windows Media and other music files.
    Is it me, or is that not the job of a codec?
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    1. Re:At least they're honest... eventually... by Xyrus · · Score: 1

      Actually, if you look up VCODEC, you'll see it has quite a history. It's known by several names, and is generally classified as malware.

      This is just another case of "same house, new paint".

      ~X~

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  46. Re: Therms!! Hooray! by Fred_A · · Score: 3, Funny

    Whaths wrong withs givingth the Igorth a bit of workth ? They are dependable and efficienth. Ith's not their fault they have trouble finding employmenth in their usual line of exhpertiseth. There are only so many brainth floating around you know (ha ha)...

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  47. Sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Window$ really needs to be secured...

  48. watch out for Pcodec too. http://www.pcodec.com/ by jasonfrog · · Score: 3, Informative

    and there is more, http://www.pcodec.com/

    the same blurb, different .exe, but again packed full of trojans.

    Domain Name: PCODEC.COM
    Creation Date: 25-Aug-2006
    Expiration Date: 25-Aug-2007

    People are being enticed into downloading this codec by the following posting that is being spambotted on to public forums that allow guest posting..

    "Br1tney Spe@rs r@ped! ;)
    http://britneyspearsrocks.info/"

  49. NEVER download codecs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Some legit ones cause problems too...

    Use VLC Media Player - has its own decoder, so you don't need to download and install any codecs. It will play essentially anything you throw at it.

  50. Check out the "Therms of use" by ChadL · · Score: 1
    SOFTWARE INSTALLATION: Components bundled with our software may report to Licensor and/or its affiliates the installation status of certain marketing offers, such as toolbars, and also generalized installation information, such as language preference and operating system version, to assist Licensor in its product development. No personal information will be communicated to VCODEC or its affiliates during this process. Licensor may offer additional components through our version checking/update system. These components include: Toolbar, Popup advertising solution, Commercial homepage manager, Commercial messenger.
    This is in the therms of use. So even if the reason that made this post does not have backing... this statement tells me to keep out.
    There are some reasons for reading the TOS, you know.

    Also as a side note, the file name of the "Therms of use" is therms.html for whatever that may mean.
  51. "Therms of use" by NVP_Radical_Dreamer · · Score: 0, Redundant

    As their THERMS of use point out, they can use this to install other crap on your machine

    SOFTWARE INSTALLATION: Components bundled with our software may report to Licensor and/or its affiliates the installation status of certain marketing offers, such as toolbars, and also generalized installation information, such as language preference and operating system version, to assist Licensor in its product development. No personal information will be communicated to VCODEC or its affiliates during this process. Licensor may offer additional components through our version checking/update system. These components include: Toolbar, Popup advertising solution, Commercial homepage manager, Commercial messenger.

    No thanks, I'll keep my machine the way it is thankyouverymuch

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  52. virtustotal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only a few major antivirus vendors consider this malware.

    Complete scanning result of "ZCodec1000.exe", received in VirusTotal at 09.05.2006, 03:14:11 (CET).
    http://www.virustotal.com/vt/en/resultadof?c0625fe 6555efe005bebfb3d39f6f327
    Aditional Information
    File size: 97469 bytes
    MD5: 97b95a0a9c31000b6f873320d7acd012
    SHA1: 1e1b12288dd48ab02a8e8c5afd8e2997d33867e8

  53. Re:Appears to be from Inhoster, known spyware sour by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Perhaps someone should notify him. Sounds like he might have enough $$ clout to be heard when finds out how his identy has been 'stolen' (used w/o his permision) to perpetrate this sort of internet scam.

    Mycroft

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  54. Re: Therms!! Hooray! by glinda · · Score: 1

    They don't seem to have trouble finding work up in Uberwald, though...

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  55. Ok so.. by ShaolinTiger · · Score: 1

    Let's all stick to VLC?

    Thanks!

    DivX has been pumping us full of Spyware for years, this is nothing new.

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  56. I blame Windows by jofi · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    if it weren't so insecure this problem wouldn't exist.

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    1. Re:I blame Windows by Jon.Laslow · · Score: 1
      Wow. You have a post like that, and you signature reads,
      Blame the user, not the software.


      *Claps*
  57. Give it time. by jd · · Score: 1

    Linus had enough trouble debugging the kernel to get the last lot of malware working, and these virus writers aren't exactly playing fair and giving him the interface specs, or any cash to do the porting work. Sheesh! Virus writers must think those kernel guys are made of money or something.

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  58. Re:watch out for Pcodec too. http://www.pcodec.com by lnjasdpppun · · Score: 1

    I love how the 3 different 'versions' on that page all point to the same file.

  59. Lithp? by tepples · · Score: 2, Funny
    Whaths wrong withs givingth the Igorth a bit of workth ?

    So is the codec written in Common Lithp?

  60. Dont call him, dont harass him. by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The info in DNS is most likley fake.

    Info on Forbes of the real guy. I doubt a stock broker would have much to do with a scheme like this.

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  61. Maybe it's Panda that's trying to drum up business by stegre · · Score: 1

    Seems like Panda just drafted up a new press release for a old well known Trojan (ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Codec) - one that's been around for months. They just wrote it up like it's something new and distributed it to the likes of TechWorld - to generally "scare" people, and, of course, get their own company name in print (and they apparently didn't even have anything to do with finding it!). Business at Panda must be slow these days...

  62. No ducks, but cats maybe.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    See Operation Acoustic Kitty

    Even though to a first approximation they are always wrong, I have a lot of sympathy for the conspiracy theorists. Almost no matter how outlandish the scheme, it seems, someone somewhere has tried something similar for real, so in a way you really can't blame people for being paranoid.

  63. Who are they targetting? by niceone · · Score: 1

    This is kind of interesting, usually these trojans are targetted at the least technical people (screensavers, games etc) - seems to make sense, there's more of them and they're more likely to fall for it.

    But presumably you have to be at least a little technically interested to know what a codec is and think you want one. So are they gaining some advantage by targetting a smaller group who's less likely to fall for it? Are their machines on for longer on faster connections?

  64. Re: Which brand of bogus? by morie · · Score: 1

    B

    lamenessfilter lamenessfilter

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  65. Strange, how can a mere codec... by Tanuki64 · · Score: 1

    ...manipulate my /etc/resolv.conf or my /etc/hosts?

  66. Re:Appears to be from Inhoster, known spyware sour by Inda · · Score: 1

    And I nominate that person to be you! All those in favour raise their hands.

    Anyway, Abraham Biderman sounds like a bogus name for someone running major financial institutions. Ivor Bidalot would have been more believable.

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  67. this ain't a ballsport it's about a codec fgs by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    so I wonder why you cheerleadering over a videocodec anyways ;)

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  68. But, they install spyware for the sake of security by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    Their TOS seems to hide the facts by masking it as a "security feature" instead of spyware.. Look carefully to the TOS:


    (a) "Internet Explorer Security Plugin 2006": Internet Explorer toolbar that protects your computer while you browse by setting high level of security for suspicious hosts.
    (b) "Public Messenger ver 2.03": Popup advertising module that opens Internet Explorer ad windows when you are connected to internet.
    (c) "Internet Security Add-On": your Internet Explorer homepage will be changed.
    (d) Security software: antivirus/antispyware application.


    Even I, after reading this would not think this would be "spyware" with exception to (b). I don't like any software to change the settings/homepage or interface without me agreeing to it anyways but still .. it's a dodgy TOS

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  69. That's an AWFUL analogy by Moraelin · · Score: 1

    No, especially if you _do_ follow the money, that's a dumb analogy. Yes, please do follow the money:

    - Sony's music division makes money by, you know, selling CDs. The Sony "rootkit" was a piece of copy-protection software which was supposed to help sell more CDs. It wasn't just some piece of wanton malware, and indeed the malware uses were simply because it was designed and programmed by the cheapest incompetent monekys. But at any rate, its purpose was to make more money for Sony.

    - This codec is just a wanton piece of malware, that doesn't seem to serve any particular purpose other than disabling a PC's protection. It doesn't even install its own malicious payload, it just opens the PC up for whoever gets there next. It doesn't copy-protect DVDs, it doesn't even track copyright infringers, it doesn't do _anything_ which would make more money for the MPAA. It's just a piece of wanton malware.

    I.e., if you do follow the money, Sony's rootkit had a financial reason behind it, while linking this codec to MPAA _doesn't_ produce or promise any obvious benefit for the MPAA. I.e., yes, I'll side with the grand-parent post. Whoever was the stupid fanboy that submitted that inflamatory summary, _is_ a retard and doesn't present any obvious link between that and the MPAA. It's just an inflamatory statement pulled out of the ass, with not even conjecture to back it up.

    Now I know it's Slashdot and "MPAA is evil" bitching and moaning is the norm and good for karma. But even then I do prefer the kind which can actually put a coherent rationale behind that bitching. You know, something based on facts and logic, and where the extrapolations have at least a hint of plausibility. And this summary just doesn't make that grade. It's just something pulled out of the ass, and badly at that.

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  70. Men by kwikrick · · Score: 1

    more specifically, men downloading porn. Click here to see teen whores *** in their *** and *** big ****. ~drool~ Click here for FREE video. ~click~. This content requires zCodec, click here to download and proceed to watch video. ~click~ Oops, where did all these popups come from. Shit, here comes my mom/girlfriend AAARGH.

    The intended audience is definitely not tech savy, they only have to click click click.

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  71. Re: Therms!! Hooray! by tweek · · Score: 1

    Thank you for making me laugh this morning. Seriously. That rocks.

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  72. Don't underestimate conspiracy theorists by Moraelin · · Score: 1

    Don't underestimate how disconnected from reality or logic conspiracy theorists can be. There _are_ people who believe that PC viruses are written by antivirus companies, human/animal diseases are created in the lab by big pharma corporations, fires are started by the firemen, etc. It's the "follow the money" kind of conspiracy theory. And don't get me wrong, "follow the money" is generally good advice, but some people are too stupid or too schizophrenic to actually successfully follw the money... or any coherent train of thought, for that matter. So they arrive at such stupidities instead.

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    1. Re:Don't underestimate conspiracy theorists by budgenator · · Score: 1

      The voices said that you were wrong and they wouldn't talk to you. There is no way you could ever figure out the secrets on your own so you're just plain screwed unless the voices change their minds, but that wouldn't happen because they only talk to me!

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  73. Hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ~ $ nmap -P0 zcodec.com

    Starting Nmap 4.01 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2006-09-05 06:43 PDT
    Unable to find nmap-services! Resorting to /etc/services
    Interesting ports on 85.255.117.106-xbox.dedi.inhoster.com (85.255.117.106):
    (The 1143 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
    PORT STATE SERVICE
    21/tcp open ftp
    22/tcp open ssh
    25/tcp open smtp
    53/tcp open domain
    57/tcp filtered mtp
    80/tcp open www
    111/tcp filtered sunrpc
    138/tcp filtered netbios-dgm
    139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn
    199/tcp open smux
    205/tcp filtered unknown
    445/tcp filtered microsoft-ds
    515/tcp filtered printer
    519/tcp filtered unknown
    587/tcp open submission
    705/tcp filtered unknown
    818/tcp filtered unknown
    876/tcp filtered unknown
    888/tcp filtered unknown
    1433/tcp filtered ms-sql-s
    1646/tcp filtered sa-msg-port
    2111/tcp filtered kx
    3306/tcp open mysql
    4557/tcp filtered fax
    20012/tcp filtered vboxd
    27374/tcp filtered asp

    Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 22.663 seconds

    The hostname is odd (as pointed out before)... and we learn little from a scan.

    Well I'm bored. Let's go get beer.

  74. sites down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the site has been closed

  75. Re: Therms!! Hooray! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shuttup Igorina!!!
    Back to the front for you!

  76. I disagree by wasted · · Score: 1

    * No, the intention to introduce DRM itself is not bad...

    Any software that is installed on my computer without my permission is inherently bad. I paid for my computer, not Sony, not the RIAA. Thus, neither Sony nor the RIAA have the right to install software on my computer. If someone wants me to have DRM software on my computer, they should buy me that computer.

    1. Re:I disagree by danielaborg · · Score: 1

      Um. Um... Okaaaaay... Did you read the parent at all? If so I suggest a re-read from a new perspective, as you're knee-jerking based on your assumptions rather than responding to what was actually written. The parent is not saying that Sony's DRM is good.

    2. Re:I disagree by wasted · · Score: 1

      Yes, I read the parent. I still think ALL DRM is bad. I don't make illegal copies, but anything that restricts my right to make LEGAL copies is inherently a bad thing. Since DRM applications cannot know whether I am making a legal copy or an illegal copy, any limit on copying unfairly restricts my legal right to make backup copies. Thus, I do not want DRM software on my computer, whether it be Sony's or someone elses.

    3. Re:I disagree by danielaborg · · Score: 1

      I see. Well, fair enough. Based on your original comment it sounded like you were talking about software installed without your permission (a'la Sony's rootkit) rather than any and all forms of DRM.

  77. Therms of Use by Nun,+Mouse,+Cowherd · · Score: 0

    Duh. I would not download and/or install anything from a site with "Therms of Use" on the index page.

  78. Hanlon's Razor by Moraelin · · Score: 1
    However, you can't really claim malice on behalf of Symantec et al. (Well, maybe you can, but that seems to have more in common with gratuitous Microsoft-bashing - logic along the lines of "We think $COMPANY_NAME software is badly written, badly written software is evil, therefore $COMPANY_NAME is evil.") Yeah, their software sucks, but there's no evidence that a team of engineers at Symantec sat down and said "How can we make our software crash machines, corrupt data and turn computers into zombie systems?"


    I.e., Hanlon's Razor fully applies: "Never attribute to malice, that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

    So, yeah, rest assured that most of us don't think that Symantec or MacAffee have malicious intent there. Most of us are fully aware that they're just incompetent, and hire the cheapest incompetents :P
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  79. Therms, no way by Pope · · Score: 1

    I use cubic metres, you insensitive clod!

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  80. ofn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Porn TGPs have been using this very "codec" for months.

  81. "professional enough"?? by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    What the hell does that mean? How do you know if something looks "professional"? Are you checking to see if it's a full-time business vs a hobby, or some kind of test like that?

    Sometimes I think "professional" is one of the dumbest and most-abused (to the point of being renderred meaningless) words in our language. We're seeing used here as implying lack of spyware (wtf does that have to do with getting paid?!) and it has often been used to describe how someone dresses. What a great word for saying nothing.

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