Point me at an FSF page that spells out exactly what you're saying, otherwise shush.
Your interpretation goes against *EVERYTHING* I"ve ever heard, including what RedHat's lawyers, and all kinds of other people have said. You're one voice against many and that usually means you're wrong.
Gee, I didn't hear people complaining when they opened the source to Open Office, their grid control, or any number of other things.
For [ insert deity of choice here ]'s sake, the CDDL IS AN OPEN SOURCE LICENSE. Certified by the OSI no less! "act like". Ppffttt....
Just because it isn't GPL, or BSD doesn't mean it isn't open source or that they're "acting".
People like you are going to get a few million lines of code stuffed in their mouth as revenge when OpenSolaris comes sometime before the end of this quarter.
My company is doing the opposite. We're moving from RHEL to Solaris 10...
Will cost us half as much, provide us with functionality and documentation RedHat didn't provide and overall has been very positive experience so far...
Technically, it's the GPL that's incompatible with the CDDL, not the other way around. This is because the GPL states that the other code can't have any additional requirements basically.
Uh, you are aware apt-get is available for RPM yes? You are also aware that initially RPM was great, and then all the vendors decided to start diverging on packgaing practices. So, you should also be aware that the Linux world we be just as bad if everyone had adopted DPKG instead of RPM. The divergence would have still happened most likely. Repeat after me: NO PACKAGE SYSTEM IS A SILVER BULLET.
The thing that makes debian packages great is Debian and the Debian community. Not the tools.
The Linux community would address the driver crisis...if it were legal to do so or the hardware specs were available! Blame your freakin' manufacturer. Not developers that would gladly write drivers if they had the information to do so!
Binary drivers aren't a solution no matter how badly he thinks they are. They're of questionable legality considering the nature of the GPL, and no developer will help you with them given that they're a black box at best.
I may not agree with the prohibition of binary drivers but I understand why the Linux team won't deal with them...
Ubuntu would be great for me too...if I could run it more than a half hour without it hardlocking (32-bit or 64-bit), in contrast Fedora / RHEL / Solaris / Windows have never given me that problem. The devs have known about the problem for months but so far have been unable to indicate to me how to help debug this Ubuntu specific issue.
The real thing is that they're not including MP3 support by default due to possible legal conflicts, namely software patents;) They're available through you as multimedia packs and come with the warning that they should only be used if "legal in your jurisdiction" or something to that effect.
Every single freakin time I use a new release of KDE, five minutes later I have the lovely crash dialog popping up with the backtrace tab in full force in some random KDE program.
There's always a counterexample for every example in the software world from what I've seen.
I see you are interested in distributing Mr. Sparkle VB6 Code in your home prefecture. You have chosen wisely. But, don't believe me, observe this commercial...
Random line from the commercial: Join me or die, can you do any less!
Most of the "dependency hell" you run into has nothing to do with the package format, and everything to do with the front-end program such as apt-get that you use that is a layer on top of DPKG or RPM.
Assuming that every package in the debian repository was also present in a apt4rpm repository, a user's experience would very likely be about the same if they were using apt4rpm.
If your Debian system only had DPKG, and didn't have apt-get, you would be just as frustrated and you would still have "dependency hell".
Therefore, apt-get is the real gold here, not the debian package format.
No, IE makes it very hard for web developers. Because things often don't work as documented.
If IE were standards compliant or if it actually worked like MSDN documents it to all the time, my life would be so much easier.
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The brutally short story is that GCC is operating under a certain restriction imposed by RMS since its inception, and LLVM -- or really, any good whole-program optimization technique -- would require us to violate that restriction.
Care to tell us what this oh so mysterious restriction is?
If you think the majority of users are security minded like that, then why do you think the majority of users have so many problems that could be prevented in the first place by firewalls? Sorry, but my experience has been the opposite of your fairy tale.
The world is full of right handed biased designers! Evil! Where's my left handed version? Don't you people know that your biased right hand designs make only a few of us left? (pun intended).
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I don't believe you. Sorry.
Point me at an FSF page that spells out exactly what you're saying, otherwise shush.
Your interpretation goes against *EVERYTHING* I"ve ever heard, including what RedHat's lawyers, and all kinds of other people have said. You're one voice against many and that usually means you're wrong.
...so lets act like we're open source!
Gee, I didn't hear people complaining when they opened the source to Open Office, their grid control, or any number of other things.
For [ insert deity of choice here ]'s sake, the CDDL IS AN OPEN SOURCE LICENSE. Certified by the OSI no less! "act like". Ppffttt....
Just because it isn't GPL, or BSD doesn't mean it isn't open source or that they're "acting".
People like you are going to get a few million lines of code stuffed in their mouth as revenge when OpenSolaris comes sometime before the end of this quarter.
My company is doing the opposite. We're moving from RHEL to Solaris 10...
Will cost us half as much, provide us with functionality and documentation RedHat didn't provide and overall has been very positive experience so far...
Technically, it's the GPL that's incompatible with the CDDL, not the other way around. This is because the GPL states that the other code can't have any additional requirements basically.
Just a technicality...
Software raid? Only on non-production boxes. Otherwise I use some ole' AMI MegaRaid controllers. No software raid for me thank you very much.
What experience I've had with it under Linux systems makes me flee in terror.
Uh, you are aware apt-get is available for RPM yes? You are also aware that initially RPM was great, and then all the vendors decided to start diverging on packgaing practices. So, you should also be aware that the Linux world we be just as bad if everyone had adopted DPKG instead of RPM. The divergence would have still happened most likely. Repeat after me: NO PACKAGE SYSTEM IS A SILVER BULLET.
The thing that makes debian packages great is Debian and the Debian community. Not the tools.
Of course the other problem is companies differ on their interpretation of the CSS2 spec, because in places the spec itself is vague.
Excuse me? Overrated for posting a completely legitimate claim? Dear , have the moderators gone insane?!?!
The Linux community would address the driver crisis...if it were legal to do so or the hardware specs were available! Blame your freakin' manufacturer. Not developers that would gladly write drivers if they had the information to do so!
Binary drivers aren't a solution no matter how badly he thinks they are. They're of questionable legality considering the nature of the GPL, and no developer will help you with them given that they're a black box at best.
I may not agree with the prohibition of binary drivers but I understand why the Linux team won't deal with them...
Ubuntu would be great for me too...if I could run it more than a half hour without it hardlocking (32-bit or 64-bit), in contrast Fedora / RHEL / Solaris / Windows have never given me that problem. The devs have known about the problem for months but so far have been unable to indicate to me how to help debug this Ubuntu specific issue.
More authoritative source:
p r/0665.html
;) They're available through you as multimedia packs and come with the warning that they should only be used if "legal in your jurisdiction" or something to that effect.
http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2005-A
The real thing is that they're not including MP3 support by default due to possible legal conflicts, namely software patents
Why not just run Solaris 10?
Install it on as many systems as you want, you just have to register each one to get an entitlement (free - as in no monetary cost).
Plus you get free security updates for the entire time it's supported...
My company's moving to Solaris 10 because it runs everything we need (Apache 2, Oracle (soon to be PostGres), etc.)...
Gee, that's funny.
Every single freakin time I use a new release of KDE, five minutes later I have the lovely crash dialog popping up with the backtrace tab in full force in some random KDE program.
There's always a counterexample for every example in the software world from what I've seen.
Thinks they've reached their peak huh?
;)
Just wait until the next version of Windows
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I see you are interested in distributing Mr. Sparkle VB6 Code in your home prefecture. You have chosen wisely. But, don't believe me, observe this commercial...
Random line from the commercial:
Join me or die, can you do any less!
I love Gnome, but KDE 3.4 is a freaking speed demon.demon? No wonder I had to call out an exorcist to fix my computer after running KDE!
Details, details :)
The point is, dpkg isn't responsible for the magic, another program such as apt, dselect, etc. is still doing the heavy lifting.
Yes, I've used Debian's dselect.
Most of the "dependency hell" you run into has nothing to do with the package format, and everything to do with the front-end program such as apt-get that you use that is a layer on top of DPKG or RPM.
Assuming that every package in the debian repository was also present in a apt4rpm repository, a user's experience would very likely be about the same if they were using apt4rpm.
If your Debian system only had DPKG, and didn't have apt-get, you would be just as frustrated and you would still have "dependency hell".
Therefore, apt-get is the real gold here, not the debian package format.
No, IE makes it very hard for web developers. Because things often don't work as documented.
If IE were standards compliant or if it actually worked like MSDN documents it to all the time, my life would be so much easier.
The brutally short story is that GCC is operating under a certain restriction imposed by RMS since its inception, and LLVM -- or really, any good whole-program optimization technique -- would require us to violate that restriction.
Care to tell us what this oh so mysterious restriction is?
There's a difference between having your requests heard and getting your way.
They heard her request, and the declined it. It was heard, it was just rejected.
Uh, all you did was paste the last paragraph of this article into a slashdot comment...hello moderators. Read before moderating :)
If you think the majority of users are security minded like that, then why do you think the majority of users have so many problems that could be prevented in the first place by firewalls? Sorry, but my experience has been the opposite of your fairy tale.
The world is full of right handed biased designers! Evil! Where's my left handed version? Don't you people know that your biased right hand designs make only a few of us left? (pun intended).
I'm more productive in Solaris you insensitive clod!