I think this is a good thing fo a start. But this won't be enough as an Outlook killer in Exchange environments. The one nice thing about the latest Office 2003 is Outlook's cached mode, which is an big improvement on usability for people who connect from remote offices, home, etc. Microsoft even advertises it as a plus in the sense that you can put one big mail server centrally and let everyone conect remotely to it, whereas before you generally wanted a local office Exchange server for responsiveness. Now when you now that the current Exchange connector in Evolution totally lacks any offline capability, I'm rather sceptic about how fast Evolution will get the next killer app - on Windows.
First things first, I owe you an apology for being rude. I overreacted and crossed a line. Please accept my humble excuses. Next, some clarifications.
I'm looking into this stuff from the viewpoint of a bigger company (say 20 engineers), so your solution, as you said yourself, won't do it.
Now, my vision on this is is that this stuff won't scale if it's not thought out properly, and when trying to solve it with just some scripts.. I tend to not believe in this kind of solutions. Oh, and there is nothing wrong about exporting to pdf's a a report tool. But the basic data should be kept in some neat structure (database) instead of some different files like pdf or Word, which was my initial point.
Further on, I don't think there's anything wrong with looking for a piece of free software (as in Speech, i never said it should be cheap). As the matter of fact I never said it had to be Free Software. But I do think starting from a good open framework would be better, than to stick with Microsoft Office apps, to generalize a bit.
To finish, I don't understand why you think I don't have fun and interest with IT, but I guess that's because we started on the wrong foot:) Sorry again.
Sorry, I don't buy this. We're a MS shop all along. We do script and automate stuff all the time.
What you say is regular Microsoft Tech Marketing: 'take all pretty loosely integrated MS software and make it all happen together.' This just doesn't work this way. If you want it to work good, you need one good central system, where you plug in all right.
You're going to pull monthly invoices out of Outlook? Using Outlook Journaling to check time spent on writing Office documents? Yeah sure that's the only good parameter. I would ROTFLBTCUTS if you didn't make me so sad.
You think file servers are good? So you mean searching and reporting on Word files are as good as SQL queries and Crystal Reports, just to name a few?
File server and IPSec. Yeah, sure I want to give access to my customer's to my file server. I'll put some nice ACL's on it so they can just access their directory. I guess you forgot to mention about prohibiting anonymous access and nice things like that.
Just to name a few incongruencies in you reasoning. I'm sure you have set up several systems with this kind of scripting. Who needs databases anyway?
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I don't know what the thing is with "boxen", but "virii" is the correct Latin plural form of "virus".
If you need Oracle or Veritas on every of your servers, then you don't need Linux.
I think this is a good thing fo a start. But this won't be enough as an Outlook killer in Exchange environments.
The one nice thing about the latest Office 2003 is Outlook's cached mode, which is an big improvement on usability for people who connect from remote offices, home, etc.
Microsoft even advertises it as a plus in the sense that you can put one big mail server centrally and let everyone conect remotely to it, whereas before you generally wanted a local office Exchange server for responsiveness.
Now when you now that the current Exchange connector in Evolution totally lacks any offline capability, I'm rather sceptic about how fast Evolution will get the next killer app - on Windows.
This reminds me of Bush's hilarious "You forgot Poland!" in the first presidential debate.
Right. That's exactly the person you want to give a reference to. I'm also sure all the fine Polish people will be glad to read you.
Did you ever notice European News lately?
The answer on the previous slashdot post.
Paris Hilton and no, it's not a hotel!
But you can use it in a hotel.
Ropati,
:) Sorry again.
First things first, I owe you an apology for being rude. I overreacted and crossed a line. Please accept my humble excuses.
Next, some clarifications.
I'm looking into this stuff from the viewpoint of a bigger company (say 20 engineers), so your solution, as you said yourself, won't do it.
Now, my vision on this is is that this stuff won't scale if it's not thought out properly, and when trying to solve it with just some scripts.. I tend to not believe in this kind of solutions.
Oh, and there is nothing wrong about exporting to pdf's a a report tool. But the basic data should be kept in some neat structure (database) instead of some different files like pdf or Word, which was my initial point.
Further on, I don't think there's anything wrong with looking for a piece of free software (as in Speech, i never said it should be cheap). As the matter of fact I never said it had to be Free Software. But I do think starting from a good open framework would be better, than to stick with Microsoft Office apps, to generalize a bit.
To finish, I don't understand why you think I don't have fun and interest with IT, but I guess that's because we started on the wrong foot
Sorry, I don't buy this. We're a MS shop all along. We do script and automate stuff all the time.
What you say is regular Microsoft Tech Marketing: 'take all pretty loosely integrated MS software and make it all happen together.'
This just doesn't work this way. If you want it to work good, you need one good central system, where you plug in all right.
You're going to pull monthly invoices out of Outlook? Using Outlook Journaling to check time spent on writing Office documents? Yeah sure that's the only good parameter. I would ROTFLBTCUTS if you didn't make me so sad.
You think file servers are good? So you mean searching and reporting on Word files are as good as SQL queries and Crystal Reports, just to name a few?
File server and IPSec. Yeah, sure I want to give access to my customer's to my file server. I'll put some nice ACL's on it so they can just access their directory. I guess you forgot to mention about prohibiting anonymous access and nice things like that.
Just to name a few incongruencies in you reasoning. I'm sure you have set up several systems with this kind of scripting. Who needs databases anyway?
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