subject: FUCK REAL Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 15:06:41 -0600 From: Me To: webmaster@real.com, rglaser@real.com, glaser@real.com, admin@real.com, root@real.com, support@real.com, everyone@real.com
You people are fucking incredible. why can't you just release a player for linux that doesn't fucking EXPIRE? What a bunch of horse cock sucking ass ramming uncle fucking christ humping fucking NITWITS. I HATE real bullshit. Why are you spamming the net with your motherfucking worthless trashy protocols, churning new releases fucking CONSTANTLY just to PISS people off??!
My real player, which I finally got working after HOURS of searching your fucking LAME site which is obfuscated beyond fucking belief, just expired. WHY? It was the ONLY one I EVER got working.
Well, now I'm downloading your latest 8MB obscenity. It says it's for red hat, which I DO NOT FUCKING HAVE. NOT EVERY FUCKING LINUX USER HAS RED HAT ASSHOLE. Probably you compiled this huge hulking stinky bitch for glibc 2.1, in which case it will not work on my machine, dumb fuck.
One last thing: FUCK YOU. FUCK YOUR WORTHLESS SHIT. I only wish Rob Glaser would read this, that fat, anal ass ramming geeky, butt munching ass clown fuck nut. Unfortunately some tech flunky will read it and delete. Just get this: I hate you, I hate your worthless fucking company, and everything it makes.
Rob Glaser needs to be fucked in his pimply ass by a rabid polar bear, drawn and quartered, tarred and feathered, torn apart by wild horses, burned and scattered to the fucking winds. Please forward this to his stupid smug ass now.
/. posts stories every day about corporations raping everything they can get their grubby little paws on. DCMA, UCITA... and these are just GEEK issues.
This sort of thing can be considered a sort of direct action.
On the website, the S/390 looks to be no bigger than an ordinary PC - or is that just the way the pic looks? Also, how much are they? It's exciting to think that linux may be the instrument to bring greater variety to the hardware world... it's already doing so, but slowly.
As Ayn Rand once said: 'Helping others will only give those others an advantage with which they can destroy you.' Anyone who doesn't agree completely with Rand is no better than the vile commies she stood up to.
All good rational people know that helping others is not a virtue. How can it be a virtue if I don't enjoy doing it? If living in a stark impersonal world devoid of altruistic friendship and basic emotional interaction was good enough for Rand's fictional characters, then by gum, it's good enough for me.
You are a dipshit, as evidenced by quoting Rand. Obviously helping others can be contrued as helping yourself, moron. Capitalism doesn't have any sort of monopoly on egoist ethics; anarchists, who have always benn socialist, are also strongly egoistic.
Perhaps you help others because it makes you feel good. Perhaps you help the oppressed because you realize, correctly, that your interests are bound up in theirs.
The old IWW labor slogan, "An injury to one is an injury to us all" is profoundly egoistic, yet has nothing to do with the narrow sort of vile self interest practiced by an organization which is soley dedicated to the quest for profit.
I agree with your numbers, but you're not counting the sort of hell an application can give you no matter what platform it's on. Of course on unix you can just ssh in and do whatever whereas with windows you're just running around everywhere.
Well, to solve this problem I installed some procmail scripts on the server that simply don't allow executable files through the mail system. they have to at least archive them first and that will prevent 99% of these sort of nasty viruses from hitting my network.
I've already gotten five notifications that this file has been blocked.
using a virus scanner isn't good enough, because all the nastiest ones spread too quickly for the updates to matter (hence all these idiots this time with "we have a virus protection, gee why didn't it work?"
educating users is absolutely stupid, it will never work, but that is the typical windows way: blame it on the "dumb users" (and they call us nix types elitist. Bah.)
You've got to be kidding. One supposes it belongs there, due to the tremendous effect it has had on american society, but overall the effect was a harmful one.
The automobile/oil industry is a textbook example of government meddling in industry - in this case massive subsidation, supported by state violence in some cases (Gulf War). The industry is entirely unnatural and wouldn't exist for five minutes without government aid.
I can see cars making sense in some situations, but for urban dwellers, cars make no sense at all. Indeed, cars have essentially destroyed cities. This might not be so bad if the suburbs were not worse than cities.
Pollution is one often cited problem (although electricity is also bad in this respect), but the worst problem is traffic and gas consumption, which is totally out of control. The whole industry is a house of cards, and it isn't going to be pretty when it falls down. Too bad the architects and proponents of this nonsense won't have to suffer for it.
"Open Source" is a business movement started by a corporate whore. It has not produced anything which anyone could really call "successful" in the capitalist sense since the profits these projects generate is pitiful compared to closed-source undertakings.
Free Software has always, and always will be, a success. The question as to whether capitalist can be their usual parasitic selves and rip off the movement is yet to be seen.
Every State, whether it is of a federative or a non-federative character, must seek, under the penalty of utter ruin, to become the most powerful of States. It has to devour others in order not to be devoured in turn, to conquer in order not to be conquered, to enslave in order not to be enslaved - for two similar and at the same time alien powers, cannot co-exist without destroying each other.
The Universal Solidarity of Humanity Disrupted by the State.
The state then is the most flagrant negation, the most cynical and complete negation of humanity. It rends apart the universal solidarity of all men upon earth, and it unites some of them only in order to destroy, conquer, and enslave all the rest. It takes under its protection only its own citizens, and it recognizes human right, humanity, and civilization only within the confines of its own boundaries. And since it does not recognize any right outside of its own confines, it quite logically arrogated to itself the right to treat with the most ferocious inhumanity all the foreign populations whom it can pillage, exterminate, or subordinate to its will. If it displays generosity or humanity toward them, it does it in no case out of any sense of duty: and that is because it has no duty but to itself, and toward those of its members who formed it by an act of free agreement, who continue constituting it on the same free bases, or, as it happens in the long run, have become its subjects.
Since international law does not exist, and since it never can exist in a serious and real manner without undermining the very foundations of the principle of absolute State sovereignty, the State cannot have any duties toward foreign populations. If then it treats humanely a conquered people, if it does not go to the full length in pillaging and exterminating it, and does not reduce it to the last degree of slavery, it does so perhaps because of considerations of political expediency and prudence, or even because of pure magnanimity, but never because of duty - for it has an absolute right to dispose of them in any way it deems fit.
Patriotism Runs Counter to Ordinary Human Morality.
This flagrant negation of humanity, which constitutes the very essence of the State, is from the point of view of the latter the supreme duty and the greatest virtue: it is called patriotism and it constitutes the transcendent morality of the State. We call it the transcendent morality because ordinarily it transcends the level of human morality and justice, whether private or common, and thereby it often sets itself in shared contradiction to them. Thus, for instance, to offend, oppress, rob, plunder, assassinate, or enslave one's fellow man is, to the ordinary morality of man, to commit a serious crime.
In public life, on the contrary, from the point of view of patriotism, when it is done for the greater glory of the State in order to conserve or to enlarge its power, all that becomes a duty and a virtue. And this duty, this virtue, are obligatory upon every patriotic citizen. Everyone is expected to discharge those duties not only in respect to strangers but in respect to his fellow citizens, members and subjects of the same State, whenever the welfare of the State demands it from him.
The Supreme Law of the State.
The supreme law of the State is self-preservation at any cost. And since all States, ever since they came to exist upon the earth, have been condemned to perpetual struggle - a struggle against their own populations, whom they oppress and ruin, a struggle against all foreign States, every one of which can be strong only if the others are weak - and since the States cannot hold their own in this struggle unless they constantly keep on augmenting their power against their own subjects as well as against the neighborhood States - it follows that the supreme law of the State is the augmentation of its power to the detriment of internal liberty and external justice.
There will be a massive protest against trade globalization and the encroaching corporate hegemony, and the support it gets from our absurd political system (the democratic aspects of which are entertainment only) in Washington this April 16.
If you don't like it, attend. It's going to make Seattle look small
Basically, no matter what it comes down to, there's always a better choice. Want to run consumer software? Windows. Want scalability? Solaris. Want a good server? BSD. Notice Linux anywhere in there?
1. Maybe not everyone is as good at getting things to run under wine as you, personally I've had little luck with it and it is slow as hell. Anything more complicated than notepad seems to have problems 2. Just because you can't think of a reason to run a virtual win9x machine in linux doesn't mean there isn't one. Where I work, I need access to a MS proprietary mail system, windows only netware management tools, MS Office, and a host of other such bullshit. I need linux to keep my sanity only, because honestly I could do without it and use some windows ssh client to manage the linux machines. However, I would go insane using windows all the time.
I've developed a tremendous distaste for commercial software since I started using linux, BUT I have to say vmware is quite nice. I'm using it right now to run windows under slink and that is where windows belongs, in a cage.
That said, what the fuck is with the stupid "tux in a business suit" icons? Gee, that's sooooo cute. I hate suits at work and I don't need to see my favorite mascot disgraced in this way.
Can we at least have tux dressed up like Che or something to even things out? Sheesh.
idealism has nothing to do with socialism, and yes I agree that gnu is strongly socialist (you own what you produce, that is all socialism means, nothing more, nothing less - many socialists are anarchists as well)
idealism is a metaphysical position which holds that reality, at least the only one we "can be sure of", exists only conceptually (Plato, Hegel, et. al.)
All totalitarian institutions, including facism, stalinism and the modern american corporation all have their roots in this philosophy, namely that of Hegel. Ideas = more important than people, hence organizations formed around ideas, well, you get the point.
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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 15:06:41 -0600
From: Me
To: webmaster@real.com, rglaser@real.com, glaser@real.com, admin@real.com, root@real.com, support@real.com, everyone@real.com
You people are fucking incredible. why can't you just release a player for linux that doesn't fucking EXPIRE? What a bunch of horse cock sucking ass ramming uncle fucking christ humping fucking NITWITS. I HATE real bullshit. Why are you spamming the net with your motherfucking worthless trashy protocols, churning new releases fucking CONSTANTLY just to PISS people off??!
My real player, which I finally got working after HOURS of searching your fucking LAME site which is obfuscated beyond fucking belief, just expired. WHY? It was the ONLY one I EVER got working.
Well, now I'm downloading your latest 8MB obscenity. It says it's for red hat, which I DO NOT FUCKING HAVE. NOT EVERY FUCKING LINUX USER HAS RED HAT ASSHOLE. Probably you compiled this huge hulking stinky bitch for glibc 2.1, in which case it will not work on my machine, dumb fuck.
One last thing: FUCK YOU. FUCK YOUR WORTHLESS SHIT. I only wish Rob Glaser would read this, that fat, anal ass ramming geeky, butt munching ass clown fuck nut. Unfortunately some tech flunky will read it and delete. Just get this: I hate you, I hate your worthless fucking company, and everything it makes.
Rob Glaser needs to be fucked in his pimply ass by a rabid polar bear, drawn and quartered, tarred and feathered, torn apart by wild horses, burned and scattered to the fucking winds. Please forward this to his stupid smug ass now.
FUCK YOU.
/. posts stories every day about corporations raping everything they can get their grubby little paws on. DCMA, UCITA ... and these are just GEEK issues.
This sort of thing can be considered a sort of direct action.
On the website, the S/390 looks to be no bigger than an ordinary PC - or is that just the way the pic looks? Also, how much are they? It's exciting to think that linux may be the instrument to bring greater variety to the hardware world ... it's already doing so, but slowly.
really sorry, I didn't realize you were joking. Your post really doesn't sound too different from real life Randites until the last sentence.
You are a dipshit, as evidenced by quoting Rand. Obviously helping others can be contrued as helping yourself, moron. Capitalism doesn't have any sort of monopoly on egoist ethics; anarchists, who have always benn socialist, are also strongly egoistic.
Perhaps you help others because it makes you feel good. Perhaps you help the oppressed because you realize, correctly, that your interests are bound up in theirs.
The old IWW labor slogan, "An injury to one is an injury to us all" is profoundly egoistic, yet has nothing to do with the narrow sort of vile self interest practiced by an organization which is soley dedicated to the quest for profit.
I agree with your numbers, but you're not counting the sort of hell an application can give you no matter what platform it's on. Of course on unix you can just ssh in and do whatever whereas with windows you're just running around everywhere.
that is why you need more democracy in the workplace
Well, to solve this problem I installed some procmail scripts on the server that simply don't allow executable files through the mail system.
they have to at least archive them first and that will prevent 99% of these sort of nasty viruses from hitting my network.
I've already gotten five notifications that this file has been blocked.
using a virus scanner isn't good enough, because all the nastiest ones spread too quickly for the updates to matter (hence all these idiots this time with "we have a virus protection, gee why didn't it work?"
educating users is absolutely stupid, it will never work, but that is the typical windows way: blame it on the "dumb users" (and they call us nix types elitist. Bah.)
The automobile/oil industry is a textbook example of government meddling in industry - in this case massive subsidation, supported by state violence in some cases (Gulf War). The industry is entirely unnatural and wouldn't exist for five minutes without government aid.
I can see cars making sense in some situations, but for urban dwellers, cars make no sense at all. Indeed, cars have essentially destroyed cities. This might not be so bad if the suburbs were not worse than cities.
Pollution is one often cited problem (although electricity is also bad in this respect), but the worst problem is traffic and gas consumption, which is totally out of control. The whole industry is a house of cards, and it isn't going to be pretty when it falls down. Too bad the architects and proponents of this nonsense won't have to suffer for it.
"Open Source" is a business movement started by a corporate whore. It has not produced anything which anyone could really call "successful" in the capitalist sense since the profits these projects generate is pitiful compared to closed-source undertakings.
Free Software has always, and always will be, a success. The question as to whether capitalist can be their usual parasitic selves and rip off the movement is yet to be seen.
What about a libertarian socialist?
Capitalism creates societies that are disorganized and inactive and passive. That is it's nature.
uggh. Wagner. Some nice minutes, some very boring hours.
I can't understand how anyone can enjoy that wagnerian crap with its insufferable geman nationalism.
There will be a massive protest against trade globalization and the encroaching corporate hegemony, and the support it gets from our absurd political system (the democratic aspects of which are entertainment only) in Washington this April 16.
If you don't like it, attend. It's going to make Seattle look small
Debian is conservative and they also have the best distribution.
The corporate distributions are getting worse with every release. Ful of bugs, nothing works properly or as documented.
Red Hat has turned to utter shit, because they're rushing everything. They're giving linux a bad name.
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Yeah. What if I want all those things?
That is ... LINUX.
looks like he converted a bmp to an xpm.
Ever looked at an xpm file with a text editor?
1. Maybe not everyone is as good at getting things to run under wine as you, personally I've had little luck with it and it is slow as hell. Anything more complicated than notepad seems to have problems
2. Just because you can't think of a reason to run a virtual win9x machine in linux doesn't mean there isn't one. Where I work, I need access to a MS proprietary mail system, windows only netware management tools, MS Office, and a host of other such bullshit. I need linux to keep my sanity only, because honestly I could do without it and use some windows ssh client to manage the linux machines. However, I would go insane using windows all the time.
stick with dual booting.
It's fine for most applications you can't run in linux and things like that but it is too slow for games.
I've developed a tremendous distaste for commercial software since I started using linux, BUT I have to say vmware is quite nice. I'm using it right now to run windows under slink and that is where windows belongs, in a cage.
That said, what the fuck is with the stupid "tux in a business suit" icons? Gee, that's sooooo cute. I hate suits at work and I don't need to see my favorite mascot disgraced in this way.
Can we at least have tux dressed up like Che or something to even things out? Sheesh.
Excuse me if I'm wrong, but wasn't navigator 4.x's immense size due to it being statically linked?
now that it is compiled against glibc2.1, we won't have the size problems, just lots of compiling prolems.
idealism has nothing to do with socialism, and yes I agree that gnu is strongly socialist (you own what you produce, that is all socialism means, nothing more, nothing less - many socialists are anarchists as well)
idealism is a metaphysical position which holds that reality, at least the only one we "can be sure of", exists only conceptually (Plato, Hegel, et. al.)
All totalitarian institutions, including facism, stalinism and the modern american corporation all have their roots in this philosophy, namely that of Hegel. Ideas = more important than people, hence organizations formed around ideas, well, you get the point.
I could make a better case but I'm in a hurry.
L8R
eXistenZ was one of the best movies of the year. Much better than the matrix, and along similar lines.
Pi was good also, as was Fight Club. the oscars are a joke.
American Beauty wasn't so great at all, I thought.