Let's see... so far I'm crying, I'm a sad sack of spuds, and am I making up bullshit. Hmm... Can't find a rebuttal in there. Need to work on your debate style there, bud.;)
Yes, you did. -- " no matter how "nifty" it is for you graphics guys."
The whole point of my post was that Photoshop makes me money, not that it's 'nifty'. Your rebuttal there demeans my point.
"I just know that some software is free and some software isn't. Photoshop most definitely isn't."
You're right, it isn't. It's better than free. (as in cost.) As for being 'free' in the sense that you described, no it's not. It doesn't bother me either. Adobe is free to release the software that way. Why does my 'freedom to muck with the source code' take priority over their freedom to release the software their way?
"A study being published today in Nature predicts that global warming will doom 15 to 37 percent of plants and animals to extinction by 2050..." -- As published by Slashdot.
"A sweeping new analysis enlisting scientists from 14 laboratories around the globe found that more than one-third of 1,103 native species they studied could vanish or plunge to near extinction by 2050... Earth is home to an estimated 14 million plant and animal species" -- As published by CNN.
"Is there anybody who really knows who holds the Internet transfer world speed record?"
No, but I have a compelling essay about who was the best Star Trek captain. I have some time tomorrow night if you'd like me to read it to you./*I hope the mods are in good humor today*/
"You think one thing and I think the opposite. In your mind, this means you're correct and I must have an "ill-thought point of view"
I gave your post a serious read. The reasoning is over-simplified and inconsiderate of how the people you have commented on arrived at the decision they made 'freely'. It's also unnecessarily biased.
It's hard to be anything but dismissive when it's clear you have no respect for my profession and how Photoshop attained it's popularity.
"If you harp on about the price then you merely demonstrate that you Don't Get It."
Actually, I'm harping about the harping of the price.
"Not that there is anything wrong with that, but if you value freedom then you don't want PhotoShop, no matter how "nifty" it is for you graphics guys."
That is a rather extreme and ill-thought point of view.
Seems innocent enough, right? I complained about a frivilous project. (Some PHB wanted the entire company to do a 1 hour presentation on what we do. For some reason, upper management was able to get out of it.) I had real work to do with an ambitious deadline, and someboy who wasn't even my boss was telling his employees to tell me to do some waste-of-time project that could easily be rescheduled.
So why was this a 'tech blunder'? Because I was running Windows 98 on relatively new hardware. You see, hard drives became significantly faster shortly after the release of Windows 98 due to increased buffers and what not. One of the 'improvements' of Windows 98 was that it could shutdown and restart a lot faster than 95. The problem? I discovered shortly after arguing with my coworkers about how dumb an 'urgent project' was that Windows 98 could actually shut down the computer so fast that the data in the HD buffer wasn't done writing to disk. When the computer came back up, 'No OS found.' Obviously, my project wasn't going to get done that day.
The coworker who was being pressured by her boss for me to get this done heatedly accused me of sabotaging my computer so I wouldn't have to do the project. She really thought I broke my own computer because I made such a big deal about not wanting to do the project. I can sort of see where she's coming from, but I was rather offended that she thought I'd sink to that. I am very much against doing unnecessary work, but I won't disobey my boss.
I was soon vindicated. No, another 98 machine didn't crash. Rather, when the machine was restored, I did the stupid project. I was thoughtful about how to present it, moreso than my other coworkers. Lots of praise, yadda yadda yadda.
The moral of the story? Be very careful about bitching about your job. Those of you who frequent here know that people like to jump to conclusions, and they usually operate with critically low information. Once I called in sick after working a late night. My boss called me and said "You should have just said you needed to sleep in." Sadly for her, she got to hear the details of the digestive problem I suffered that morning.
"obviously we have different definitions of "miserable failure" "
Perhaps. However, since you didn't elaborate, we won't really be able to discuss that, will we?
In any case, 3DO was successful enough that they started developing the M2, the successor to the 3DO. They were far enough along that they were paid a ridiculous amount of money by Matsushita (well over $100,000,000) for the technology. Sadly, the project faded away after that. My guess is that the Playstation made Matsushita reconsider entering the market.
Being a 3DO owner was sort of like being a Mac owner. It had it's own niche of neat stuff. Shelves were full of games, and they were all very different from what the SNES was doing. True, you weren't likely to bump into another 3DO owner on the street. But it was a very unique system, and a lot of fun to have.
"Isn't this what 3D0 tried... and failed miserably at? "
No, and no.
The 3DO was not a rebuild of an existing system. It was a game console, albeit an expensive one. This is a PC that plays PC games, but designed to hook up to the TV.
And no, 3DO did not fail miserably at it. The 3DO never attained the popularity of anything made by Nintendo, Sega, or Sony, but it was still a reasonably succesful system. (Modest is a word I would use strongly, here.) Want to talk about failures? Look at Jaguar or Virtual Boy.
I realize that success is a relative term, but that thing was around like 3 years and has a decent library of games.
I've never seen one, but I do have a card that'll do it. It has 4 ports going out the back, and one that's right on the card pointed towards the inside of the case.
I was caught making a political statement. My company made technology that allowed the user to watch video from multiple views. Around the time this happened, a presidential candidate for the 2000 election made a speech. I got video of that speech and used a frame of it to illustrate a point in the manual.
I was explaining video compression. The lower the quality, the more quantized a video gets, etc. With this photo of not-yet-president Bush, I noticed that using a lot of compression made his mouth turn into two rectangular black pixels. So, in order to illustrate what the effect of lower quality is on the codec, I drew an arrow at the 2 large black pixels and wrote "the mouth loses definition."
Sadly, it wasn't subtle enough to slip by my boss.
Well, this is more of a graphical error than a text error, but it's still amusing. My company developed a technology where you can watch video from mulitple angles. (note: this is going back a few years.) So we were pumping out demos like mad. At one point, we got some stock footage of a horse show or something. It had a horse jumping over a fence, filmed from different angles. I had to insert the words "click here" at the bottom of the video because I was going to make that clickable. If you click there, then you get s'more info about our software.
Back then, we didn't do letterboxing like Media Player does. If the window you play the video in isn't the same as the aspect ratio of the video, then cropping occurs. I did not consider this little fact about our player, rather I got it up on the site as fast as I possibly could. Then, I went to lunch.
When I got back from lunch, I noticed the CEO was looking at the demo. So I poked my head in to say hi. He says "Why is this video telling me to lick it?" Wha? I go up to the screen, look at what he's watching, and... eep. The c in click here was perfectly cropped out of the shot. I mean perfectly. I mean you didn't know it was missing. So here's a horse, reared up on its hind legs, with the words "LICK HERE" just below its.. uh.. tail.
I am so glad that we had the one CEO in our industry that understood what took place.
" bet the marketing department of my first real job (a casino) would have problems with it - what else could you show in casino ads?"
Somehow I doubt that this would seriously be effected. You could recreate enough of a bill for it to work. This would not be hard, nor would it be unreasonable.
" it's not up to adobe to enforce the law, and since there are plenty of legitimate uses for photoshopping currency it's a crippled version that is apparently not disclosed anywhere external. "
Who says they're enforcing the law? How come they're not 'volunteering to prevent a problem before it starts'? If massive counterfitting were happening with Photoshop, you all would be screaming "why didn't Adobe make this harder to do? It'd be so simple to do this!"
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Let's see... so far I'm crying, I'm a sad sack of spuds, and am I making up bullshit. Hmm... Can't find a rebuttal in there. Need to work on your debate style there, bud. ;)
"I did no such thing. "
Yes, you did. -- " no matter how "nifty" it is for you graphics guys."
The whole point of my post was that Photoshop makes me money, not that it's 'nifty'. Your rebuttal there demeans my point.
"I just know that some software is free and some software isn't. Photoshop most definitely isn't."
You're right, it isn't. It's better than free. (as in cost.) As for being 'free' in the sense that you described, no it's not. It doesn't bother me either. Adobe is free to release the software that way. Why does my 'freedom to muck with the source code' take priority over their freedom to release the software their way?
"A study being published today in Nature predicts that global warming will doom 15 to 37 percent of plants and animals to extinction by 2050..." -- As published by Slashdot.
"A sweeping new analysis enlisting scientists from 14 laboratories around the globe found that more than one-third of 1,103 native species they studied could vanish or plunge to near extinction by 2050... Earth is home to an estimated 14 million plant and animal species" -- As published by CNN.
Very dramatic difference here.
"Is there anybody who really knows who holds the Internet transfer world speed record?"
/*I hope the mods are in good humor today*/
No, but I have a compelling essay about who was the best Star Trek captain. I have some time tomorrow night if you'd like me to read it to you.
Off topic?!?! Read the question and then read my answer.
"No, after being convicted of a violent crime I began playing GTA - figure I have to brush up on my skills so I don't get caught again."
I'm going to laugh when you get caught after pulling into a Maaco.
Okay, I think just about everybody here is a GTA fan. So why don't we take a survey?
Have you, since playing any of the GTA games, been convicted of a violent crime?
"Hm. Which ethnic minority (sans powerful community presence/voice) can Rockstar exploit in this title?"
Heh. "Kill the lawyers!"
... for rejuvinating interest in this series and securing a sequel.
"What do you guys want to see in a new GTA game? They need something big cut of all the imitators out there now."
On-line multi-player play. I wanna be a cop.
"No HDCD playing, and no SACD playing. Blarg! "
No Midi or RealMedia support either, BLARG!
"As a joke, I once set the transporter to low resolution. The Captain was not amused."
A friend of mine played a transporter prank on his cat once.
"You think one thing and I think the opposite. In your mind, this means you're correct and I must have an "ill-thought point of view"
I gave your post a serious read. The reasoning is over-simplified and inconsiderate of how the people you have commented on arrived at the decision they made 'freely'. It's also unnecessarily biased.
It's hard to be anything but dismissive when it's clear you have no respect for my profession and how Photoshop attained it's popularity.
"If they only built the WTC as strong as a microdrive... "
Too soon, man.
"If you harp on about the price then you merely demonstrate that you Don't Get It."
Actually, I'm harping about the harping of the price.
"Not that there is anything wrong with that, but if you value freedom then you don't want PhotoShop, no matter how "nifty" it is for you graphics guys."
That is a rather extreme and ill-thought point of view.
Seems innocent enough, right? I complained about a frivilous project. (Some PHB wanted the entire company to do a 1 hour presentation on what we do. For some reason, upper management was able to get out of it.) I had real work to do with an ambitious deadline, and someboy who wasn't even my boss was telling his employees to tell me to do some waste-of-time project that could easily be rescheduled.
So why was this a 'tech blunder'? Because I was running Windows 98 on relatively new hardware. You see, hard drives became significantly faster shortly after the release of Windows 98 due to increased buffers and what not. One of the 'improvements' of Windows 98 was that it could shutdown and restart a lot faster than 95. The problem? I discovered shortly after arguing with my coworkers about how dumb an 'urgent project' was that Windows 98 could actually shut down the computer so fast that the data in the HD buffer wasn't done writing to disk. When the computer came back up, 'No OS found.' Obviously, my project wasn't going to get done that day.
The coworker who was being pressured by her boss for me to get this done heatedly accused me of sabotaging my computer so I wouldn't have to do the project. She really thought I broke my own computer because I made such a big deal about not wanting to do the project. I can sort of see where she's coming from, but I was rather offended that she thought I'd sink to that. I am very much against doing unnecessary work, but I won't disobey my boss.
I was soon vindicated. No, another 98 machine didn't crash. Rather, when the machine was restored, I did the stupid project. I was thoughtful about how to present it, moreso than my other coworkers. Lots of praise, yadda yadda yadda.
The moral of the story? Be very careful about bitching about your job. Those of you who frequent here know that people like to jump to conclusions, and they usually operate with critically low information. Once I called in sick after working a late night. My boss called me and said "You should have just said you needed to sleep in." Sadly for her, she got to hear the details of the digestive problem I suffered that morning.
"obviously we have different definitions of "miserable failure" "
Perhaps. However, since you didn't elaborate, we won't really be able to discuss that, will we?
In any case, 3DO was successful enough that they started developing the M2, the successor to the 3DO. They were far enough along that they were paid a ridiculous amount of money by Matsushita (well over $100,000,000) for the technology. Sadly, the project faded away after that. My guess is that the Playstation made Matsushita reconsider entering the market.
Being a 3DO owner was sort of like being a Mac owner. It had it's own niche of neat stuff. Shelves were full of games, and they were all very different from what the SNES was doing. True, you weren't likely to bump into another 3DO owner on the street. But it was a very unique system, and a lot of fun to have.
"Isn't this what 3D0 tried... and failed miserably at? "
No, and no.
The 3DO was not a rebuild of an existing system. It was a game console, albeit an expensive one. This is a PC that plays PC games, but designed to hook up to the TV.
And no, 3DO did not fail miserably at it. The 3DO never attained the popularity of anything made by Nintendo, Sega, or Sony, but it was still a reasonably succesful system. (Modest is a word I would use strongly, here.) Want to talk about failures? Look at Jaguar or Virtual Boy.
I realize that success is a relative term, but that thing was around like 3 years and has a decent library of games.
Do they make internal firewire drives?
I've never seen one, but I do have a card that'll do it. It has 4 ports going out the back, and one that's right on the card pointed towards the inside of the case.
"mistakes? i don't make em..."
You're supposed to capitalize the i in 'I'.
I was caught making a political statement. My company made technology that allowed the user to watch video from multiple views. Around the time this happened, a presidential candidate for the 2000 election made a speech. I got video of that speech and used a frame of it to illustrate a point in the manual.
I was explaining video compression. The lower the quality, the more quantized a video gets, etc. With this photo of not-yet-president Bush, I noticed that using a lot of compression made his mouth turn into two rectangular black pixels. So, in order to illustrate what the effect of lower quality is on the codec, I drew an arrow at the 2 large black pixels and wrote "the mouth loses definition."
Sadly, it wasn't subtle enough to slip by my boss.
Well, this is more of a graphical error than a text error, but it's still amusing. My company developed a technology where you can watch video from mulitple angles. (note: this is going back a few years.) So we were pumping out demos like mad. At one point, we got some stock footage of a horse show or something. It had a horse jumping over a fence, filmed from different angles. I had to insert the words "click here" at the bottom of the video because I was going to make that clickable. If you click there, then you get s'more info about our software.
Back then, we didn't do letterboxing like Media Player does. If the window you play the video in isn't the same as the aspect ratio of the video, then cropping occurs. I did not consider this little fact about our player, rather I got it up on the site as fast as I possibly could. Then, I went to lunch.
When I got back from lunch, I noticed the CEO was looking at the demo. So I poked my head in to say hi. He says "Why is this video telling me to lick it?" Wha? I go up to the screen, look at what he's watching, and... eep. The c in click here was perfectly cropped out of the shot. I mean perfectly. I mean you didn't know it was missing. So here's a horse, reared up on its hind legs, with the words "LICK HERE" just below its.. uh.. tail.
I am so glad that we had the one CEO in our industry that understood what took place.
... has saved us!
"is increasing (slowly but surely). what...10 mbits common place by 2007? say hello to zooming movie downloads :) "
Hopefully the success of music services will be closely looked at, thus preventing that from happening illegitimately.
" bet the marketing department of my first real job (a casino) would have problems with it - what else could you show in casino ads?"
Somehow I doubt that this would seriously be effected. You could recreate enough of a bill for it to work. This would not be hard, nor would it be unreasonable.
" it's not up to adobe to enforce the law, and since there are plenty of legitimate uses for photoshopping currency it's a crippled version that is apparently not disclosed anywhere external. "
Who says they're enforcing the law? How come they're not 'volunteering to prevent a problem before it starts'? If massive counterfitting were happening with Photoshop, you all would be screaming "why didn't Adobe make this harder to do? It'd be so simple to do this!"
This is being blown heavily out of proportion.