"Why does the submitter make such a big deal out of these discs being "incompatible"?"
Because you can't take the DVD back once you open the package? We're not talking about improvements to the DVD spec here. We're talking about intentionally making it not work. That's the difference.
"Well a modding down for asking the question is allright with me. Your question clutters up the thread and doesn't really add anything to the discussion at all..."...except to other people (such as newcomers) who weren't familiar with the term, which btw was critical to the +5 Insightful post.
I see what you're saying, but I disagree. The article doesn't call it 'FUD'. The poster I was replying to called it FUD, which is a term used quite frequently here on Slasdot. I didn't connect the dots. I admit that. Just figured he read something I didn't.
Oh well. Too bad modding me down is more important than answering my question. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question, though.
"This whole SCO vs. IBM affair is more entertaining than every daily soap-opera..."
I find it entertaining too, now that it's displaced Microsoft's monopoly on bad news here. None of the stories today or yesterday have any mention of our favorite company!
Man, I should save the home page. Bet that never happens again.
"I know it's silly but I always love when IBM uses the phrase "FUD" in corporate announcements since they know it means nothing to the mainstream press but it gets the Linux community all fired up."
Where does FUD come from anyway? I know what it means based on the context, but where'd it come from? "Fucked up deal"?
""Catch Nintendo's attention" and "make Nintendo aware that they exist" mean the SAME thing."
Nope. Sorry. "Catching Nintendo's attention" means "Nintendo is now looking at you". To put it another way, my first grade teacher was completely aware that I existed. She didn't start making me stay inside for recess until I caught her attention by doing something stupid. Understand now? There was never any intention of implying that Nintendo was or wasn't aware of VBA's existence. Frankly, I don't see how you could read it that way given the context of your advertising VBA's use for 'evaluating' games.
Though I'll concede that I could have written a clearer sentence, I will not concede that my message conforms to your interpretation of it. It's been well established here on Slashdot that whenever something comes along that could potentially be used for wrong, companies (usually armed with the DMCA ) can sue and prevent the technology from being used, even if they're not on the most stable of legal grounds. Tivo comes to mind. Napster. That company that produces software for backing up DVDs. Lik-Sang (Mod chips, etc.)
Nintendo has a lot of cash reserve. If they can make a case that software's being used to pirate Nintendo games, then they could (potentially) make the developer's life hard enough that it's not worth the battle to them. Whether they'd be right or wrong in doing so is an entirely seperate discussion. I'm not siding with them. Just saying that when you advertise use of a program to do something that Nintendo will most definitely frown on, then you're basically jumping in front of them and shouting "SUE ME!!!".
That's my point. It's too bad you had to try to engage me in a pissing contest instead of just discussing it with me. It was fun while it lasted, though. You provided quite a few laughs for me.:)
"I can't imagine the latest pop song in Sonic, for example! Still, for certain kinds of games (Tony Hawk) it seems to work well enough - the music there is just an accompanyment, as it only has to set the mood for the game in a much broader sense."
Think of it this way: Setting. Britney Spears wouldn't belong in Sonic the Hedgehog. It would, however, be appropriate in GTA 3. The game's a simulation, and the more it does to remind you that you're driving your car, the more successful it is. I have a few CDs of a local radio station's best moments. I've actually considered ripping the discs and making them available in Vice City. Heh that would have been an interesting experience...
There are some games, though, that this type of music would clash with the setting. You wouldn't play a Star Trek game with Will Smith's latest rip-me-off rap in it. It would be distracting because it doesn't fit within the setting of the game.
I'm not arguing with you, just fleshing out what you were saying a bit. Picking music for a game is like designing a level for a game. It's another aspect of it.
... SCo has a very strong case. You guys need to analyze the facts. You just have to... hey.. wait.. guys... put the pitchforks down. I was just kidding! C'mon! ACCK! *Gurgle*
That's it? That's your whole point? That's what you've been so aggressively defending all this time? Heheheheh. OMFG as you'd say. Hahaha.
C'mon Will, you can do better than that. That's not even a very strong rebuttal to what I originally said. If I had said "Good idea, make Nintendo aware that they exist", then your rebuttal would hold some water. That's not what I said, though.
I'm the one that needs to take an English class? Hehe.
(Psst, mutes can still post on Slashdot. I'll give you extra credit for that little gem, it made my coworker laugh!)
"Go back to what I typed out for you and said what the conclusion was. I'm not expecting much from you since your still learning."
So, in other words, you don't understand your own point. That's why you're afraid to rephrase it. Got it. Very honorable!
Hehehe you, Mr Willr7, are funny. It's a rare occurance that somebody'll waste all this time trying to offend me. It must really sting that I read your posts with a smile on my face. This has been quite entertaining so far, keep it up!
"Gimme a fucking break. The Matrix sequel was a flop despite massive improvements in rendering. "
Fair point. I agree with you. However, LoTR is a different circumstance from The Matrix. LoTR has a huge following, and there are (at least as far as the big wigs at the studio will assume) lots of things in it that LoTR fanatics will want to see realized as realistically as possible. Plus, on top of that, LoTR has a decent book to base itself off of. The Matrix failed there too.
Okay, I'm being optimistic. Still, though, I think your caution is justified.
"is this article trying to tell us how little 'real' scenes we're going to see from the third episode?"
"No, to please the fans this movie will actually be shot on location in the real live Mordor..."
Hehehe. Gotta admit, he has a point. Why do some people feel the need to tar and feather Peter Jackson because he's trying to recreate what's in the book?
"Saying that emualtion was legal was NOT THE POINT."
Okay then, I'm going to do exactly what you should have done at the beginning of this convo and ask: "What exactly is your point then?"
"If you've already been to college, I truly feel sorry for you and you should ask for a refund,"
Uh yeah, ouch. Whatever. It's hard to take offense to a comment like that coming from somebody who isn't pursuing understanding, yet throws terms like moron around.
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"Last year, record label Sony Music came under fire when new European CD releases by artists Celine Dion and Shakira wouldn't play...."
Millions of boyfriends everywhere simultaneously sigh with relief.
"Why does the submitter make such a big deal out of these discs being "incompatible"?"
Because you can't take the DVD back once you open the package? We're not talking about improvements to the DVD spec here. We're talking about intentionally making it not work. That's the difference.
Progress means things get better, not worse.
"Do you actually believe Microsoft only spies on you if it's written in the EULA?"
Do you believe that MS spies on you at all, or are they just covering their own butts for the new services they've added?
Yeah, "We at Microsoft are monitoring over 400 million people. We know what you're up to!"
"Look, pallie, it 'aint OUR fuckin' fault you are dumber than Homer J. Christ."
At least I know how to log in Mr. Anonymous.
"The moderation was fair, and it stands."
No it isn't and it didn't. Go look at my score. (of course now I'm inviting retribution. Oh well.)
" so you don't make the same ill-witted mistakes in the future."
Asking a question is never a mistake.
"Well a modding down for asking the question is allright with me. Your question clutters up the thread and doesn't really add anything to the discussion at all..." ...except to other people (such as newcomers) who weren't familiar with the term, which btw was critical to the +5 Insightful post.
"Sorry, chum, but your moderation was fair. "
I see what you're saying, but I disagree. The article doesn't call it 'FUD'. The poster I was replying to called it FUD, which is a term used quite frequently here on Slasdot. I didn't connect the dots. I admit that. Just figured he read something I didn't.
Oh well. Too bad modding me down is more important than answering my question. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question, though.
"Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. i was coined by persons that felt that this was IBMs main tactic against competition."
:)
Thank you.
Too bad somebody with a mod point thought that my asking a question in order expand my understanding of what everybody else is saying is overrated.
"This whole SCO vs. IBM affair is more entertaining than every daily soap-opera..."
I find it entertaining too, now that it's displaced Microsoft's monopoly on bad news here. None of the stories today or yesterday have any mention of our favorite company!
Man, I should save the home page. Bet that never happens again.
"I know it's silly but I always love when IBM uses the phrase "FUD" in corporate announcements since they know it means nothing to the mainstream press but it gets the Linux community all fired up."
Where does FUD come from anyway? I know what it means based on the context, but where'd it come from? "Fucked up deal"?
""Catch Nintendo's attention" and "make Nintendo aware that they exist" mean the SAME thing."
:)
Nope. Sorry. "Catching Nintendo's attention" means "Nintendo is now looking at you". To put it another way, my first grade teacher was completely aware that I existed. She didn't start making me stay inside for recess until I caught her attention by doing something stupid. Understand now? There was never any intention of implying that Nintendo was or wasn't aware of VBA's existence. Frankly, I don't see how you could read it that way given the context of your advertising VBA's use for 'evaluating' games.
Though I'll concede that I could have written a clearer sentence, I will not concede that my message conforms to your interpretation of it. It's been well established here on Slashdot that whenever something comes along that could potentially be used for wrong, companies (usually armed with the DMCA ) can sue and prevent the technology from being used, even if they're not on the most stable of legal grounds. Tivo comes to mind. Napster. That company that produces software for backing up DVDs. Lik-Sang (Mod chips, etc.)
Nintendo has a lot of cash reserve. If they can make a case that software's being used to pirate Nintendo games, then they could (potentially) make the developer's life hard enough that it's not worth the battle to them. Whether they'd be right or wrong in doing so is an entirely seperate discussion. I'm not siding with them. Just saying that when you advertise use of a program to do something that Nintendo will most definitely frown on, then you're basically jumping in front of them and shouting "SUE ME!!!".
That's my point. It's too bad you had to try to engage me in a pissing contest instead of just discussing it with me. It was fun while it lasted, though. You provided quite a few laughs for me.
"Why do I think labor groups will be unhappy about this?"
Because their beer gut that was formerly helpful in keeping the Jackhammer under control now gets in the way of the steering wheel?
"I can't imagine the latest pop song in Sonic, for example! Still, for certain kinds of games (Tony Hawk) it seems to work well enough - the music there is just an accompanyment, as it only has to set the mood for the game in a much broader sense."
Think of it this way: Setting. Britney Spears wouldn't belong in Sonic the Hedgehog. It would, however, be appropriate in GTA 3. The game's a simulation, and the more it does to remind you that you're driving your car, the more successful it is. I have a few CDs of a local radio station's best moments. I've actually considered ripping the discs and making them available in Vice City. Heh that would have been an interesting experience...
There are some games, though, that this type of music would clash with the setting. You wouldn't play a Star Trek game with Will Smith's latest rip-me-off rap in it. It would be distracting because it doesn't fit within the setting of the game.
I'm not arguing with you, just fleshing out what you were saying a bit. Picking music for a game is like designing a level for a game. It's another aspect of it.
... SCo has a very strong case. You guys need to analyze the facts. You just have to... hey.. wait.. guys... put the pitchforks down. I was just kidding! C'mon! ACCK! *Gurgle*
That's it? That's your whole point? That's what you've been so aggressively defending all this time? Heheheheh. OMFG as you'd say. Hahaha.
C'mon Will, you can do better than that. That's not even a very strong rebuttal to what I originally said. If I had said "Good idea, make Nintendo aware that they exist", then your rebuttal would hold some water. That's not what I said, though.
I'm the one that needs to take an English class? Hehe.
(Psst, mutes can still post on Slashdot. I'll give you extra credit for that little gem, it made my coworker laugh!)
"Go back to what I typed out for you and said what the conclusion was. I'm not expecting much from you since your still learning."
So, in other words, you don't understand your own point. That's why you're afraid to rephrase it. Got it. Very honorable!
Hehehe you, Mr Willr7, are funny. It's a rare occurance that somebody'll waste all this time trying to offend me. It must really sting that I read your posts with a smile on my face. This has been quite entertaining so far, keep it up!
"Gimme a fucking break. The Matrix sequel was a flop despite massive improvements in rendering. "
Fair point. I agree with you. However, LoTR is a different circumstance from The Matrix. LoTR has a huge following, and there are (at least as far as the big wigs at the studio will assume) lots of things in it that LoTR fanatics will want to see realized as realistically as possible. Plus, on top of that, LoTR has a decent book to base itself off of. The Matrix failed there too.
Okay, I'm being optimistic. Still, though, I think your caution is justified.
"is this article trying to tell us how little 'real' scenes we're going to see from the third episode?"
"No, to please the fans this movie will actually be shot on location in the real live Mordor..."
Hehehe. Gotta admit, he has a point. Why do some people feel the need to tar and feather Peter Jackson because he's trying to recreate what's in the book?
"Why waste money on stuff you'll never see on screen?"
Pride.
"Do you think that Jackson can tear himself away from the computerized stuff long enough to actually tell a story in this one?"
Wow, take some Premsyn dude.
"Saying that emualtion was legal was NOT THE POINT."
Okay then, I'm going to do exactly what you should have done at the beginning of this convo and ask: "What exactly is your point then?"
"If you've already been to college, I truly feel sorry for you and you should ask for a refund,"
Uh yeah, ouch. Whatever. It's hard to take offense to a comment like that coming from somebody who isn't pursuing understanding, yet throws terms like moron around.
Wow. Despite all those words, you've completely failed to address that I had never said that emulation was illegal.
Man, are you a politician or an idiot or what? "I understood what you said. Copy/paste. See?" hehe.
"You might have noticed that you obviously missed my point, or don't even know what yours is. "
My point was quite clear. Your point was a rebuttal to something I didn't say. Perhaps you should try understanding what I meant before correcting me?
"It's not ilegal to make/own an emulator, it is legal to have copies of games you own."
You might have noticed that I never said that they were illegal.
"All slashdot readers I urge you to save your money and download visual boy advance."
Good idea. Have them catch Nintendo's attention so they can sue them out of existence.
... the "Close Encounters" tune that the Power Glove played? doo dee doo doh daaaaaaaaa