"ou are sold the disc in a very specific format, with the understanding that you will use the disc in that particular format...
Where is this 'understanding' coming from? When I bought CD's (haven't bought any since the RIAA tried to pass the SSSCA), it was so that I'd have the convenience of listening to a song whenever I want, as opposed to waiting for it to appear on the radio. There was no 'FBI Warning' (metaphor, don't take that literally) stating I could not make Mp3 versions of it. The only reason I know about the copyright laws on it now are because the topic became of interest to me.
I refuse to be called a thief when the RIAA failed to educate anybody. It makes me itch to use the word 'entrapment'.
As for the copy restricted CD format, it's perfectly okay for them to do that. I just hope they don't expect me to buy the music. I listen to music on my computer and on my Mp3 player. I am not buying a CD-Walkman (Discman?). If that were an acceptable solution, I wouldn't have replaced it with an MP3 player. I have a feeling other people will feel the same way. If that's the case, then the RIAA's sales will slowly decline. And you know what they'll do? They'll blame MP3s etc and claim that they were destroyed because they didn't get the technology out sooner.
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"Consider this the logical evolution of the hardware dongle that 3DS Max once did, and possibly still does."
This is great for verifying media. However, the dongle comment put a scary thought in my head. I'm not sure if you intended to imply that the media could be used as a dongle, but let's pretend you did mean that:
There are a couple of problems: 1.) The dongle becomes very delicate and 2.) I've only got one CD drive, what happens when I want to run Lightwave and 3DS Max at the same time? (I.e. translating a model...)
If they can solve that, no worries. But I do hope they don't use it (protection/restriction-wise) for more than just verifying the media is original.
"Special effects will improve, making the mountain range look more realistic.."
Your point is well made, but I do want to nitpick a little detail of it. I'm not trying to de-fuse it, but rather share a little insight I have into this example.
A mountain range is basically a matte painting, or even a photograph. They can be made more artistic, but the realism there was perfected many many years ago. However, replace 'a mountain range' with 'the ruins of an ancient civilization who built a city on it...' with it and your point shines more brightly. There are mountain ranges that have ancient cities built into them. If somebody were to go back and rebuild those cities to what they looked like, then oh yes the technology and the tools they have will greatly affect the result. This backs your point up a little better I think.:)
"It's just that you (along with your 'Anonvmous Coward' co-worker) come across as pretentious fucks... "
Heh. I can see that! Of course that assumption about my personality is because everybody is jealous of me. *Smug mode*
"but your sense of humor and easy-on-the-brain writing style balances it out IMO.:)"
I appreciate that, particularly the 'easy-on-the-brain' comment. On some posts, I do spend quite a bit of time trying to make sure the idea is clear as possible. I wish I could say it was for some honorable reason, but really it's to shake off abusive AC's. The biggest source of trolling I've had to endure is ambiguous sentences in my post.
"The amount of @sskissing required to get +5 for a seemingly pro-Microsoft comment is mind-boggling."
Heh the last time I made a 'KDE is broken, look to MS for help' comment I got modded into oblivion, followed by lotsa heated flames. (Although none of them were actual responses to the criticisms I made...)
I thought I'd soften it this time around by showing the flaw of too much usability. I'm glad I did that because I hadn't thought about that copy/paste deal in quite a while. Now I understand why I got modded down originally. I was seeing the plusses of MS's usability choices, everybody else was seeing the minuses. In other words, I didn't present it too well originally. I had just assumed that Linux Zealousy had reigned. It didn't occur to me that I sounded like I was trolling.
"Well instead of discussing the usability problems of KDE and the huge installation issues, he prefer to just go ahead and blame Microsoft. "
It's a pity, really. Few people here realize that MS's products demonstrate evolved wonderfully evolved usability. Yeah yeah, I know about the stability complaints and all. I'm not talking about productivity, I'm talking about usability. There's lots of things that both Windows and Office do right.
I'll give you an example of what I mean: If you take Internet Explorer, highlight a section of a web page, then paste it into Front Page, all of the HTML remains in tact. So if you're copying and pasting formatted text, you're not losing the formatting in the process. That's a good example of usability because it goes a little farther to give the user what they probably want.
Now, let me be clear about something: I did not say that MS made the right choice there. I'm not saying anything other than Windows/Office demonstrate that usability has been considered. (Note: Do not confuse the word term "considered" with "better than KDE", "best", "perfect", "good", etc...") After using KDE for a bit, it felt clunky... like I had to fight with it. As a matter of fact, I had trouble copying and pasting from a web page. I've heard a few people complain about that. I don't know if it's a problem anymore, nor do I care. It is only an example, please don't take it as KDE bashing. It could use a little more design work.
However, it is possible to be really obnoxious with usability, and MS has demonstrated that a number of times. That copy/paste example I used with IE/FP has serious drawbacks to it. They didn't think it all the way through. I copied/pasted some HTML I found on a website once into the HTML of the page I was working on. (as opposed to pasting it into the WYSIWYG interface...) Unfortunately, it wasn't smart enough to realize that I just wanted the plain-text translation of it, so it pasted the HTML that made the code look all pretty in the page, not the HTML itself I wanted to bring over. I had to paste it into Notepad, then re-copy it. It's 'usability' seriously got in my way. Unfortunately, that happens all too often because I wasnt using FrontPage the way MS assumed I would.
Here lies the problem with MS's forms of usability: They work great, only if you're doing exactly what MS thought you might want to do. This forces you to understand exactly how MS products are working internally, and that is not acceptable. I would love to see KDE take a few cues from MS on usability, but I do NOT want it to take too many of them. You can reach a point where you take a hit on productivity, MS has reached that point a number of times.
"Sony is just exercising their Freedom to Innovate(tm)."
Now you all know why I've said that Sony is more evil than MS. Nobody ever believes me. Sony is downright RUTHLESS. MS is just arrogant. It's kinda like comparing Khan and Dr. Evil.
Another factor is that limitations often result in better work. The original Star Trek series is a classic example. They didn't have the budget to film a landing sequence for every episode, so the writers invented 'transporters'. Not only did that provide a key technology in the Trek universe, but it also removed the need for a lot of extra dialog. I don't think I could stand hearing them shout out every little procedure required to make the landing. "Coming in at 250 knots, engaging lateral thrusters."
While Episode II was pretty much considered a bad movie, it did accomplish some stuff that is seriously cool. There was a LOT of footage in that movie where the background was a miniature standing about 18" tall. That surprised the hell out of me when I picked up the latest issue of Cinefex! They actually built this tiny miniature of a room, placed a robotically controlled camera in it, and composited blue-screened actors over it. We're not talking static background either, the camera moved through the set quite casually.
This technique isn't new, it dates back to the early 80s. (Greatest American Hero, for example..) AOTC did a wonderful job of pulling that off convincingly.
I really can't wait to see this type of advance winding it's way down to independent moviemakers. I'm really curious what happens when somebody uninhibited by mass-market considerations is able to get their imagination on screen.
If you are incapable of understanding what I said because I typed 'ur' instead of 'you are', then maybe you should be allowed to park in handicapped zones.
"The biggest advantage Opera has (in my opinion) is that it has a little button that turns images on or off. Quickly enabling or disabling images makes browsing on a dial-up connection much less painful."
"Because your sig, being "Not Funny," it is remarkably "On Topic." This is unlike your posts, which are both "Not Funny" and "Off-Topic."
Makes me glad 'funny' isn't a scientific measurement.
So what real benefit do you get for marking me as foe? Any particular reason I should care? I'm not particularly educated on the 'friend/foe' features of Slashdot.
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"I was interviewed at Adobe Systems a long time ago, and one of the people asked me if I liked my mother."
I would have said "Yes, but only with Heinz 57."
lol!
"He's handsome, brave, and so much slimmer he will ne-ver need a zimmer!" heh
"ou are sold the disc in a very specific format, with the understanding that you will use the disc in that particular format...
Where is this 'understanding' coming from? When I bought CD's (haven't bought any since the RIAA tried to pass the SSSCA), it was so that I'd have the convenience of listening to a song whenever I want, as opposed to waiting for it to appear on the radio. There was no 'FBI Warning' (metaphor, don't take that literally) stating I could not make Mp3 versions of it. The only reason I know about the copyright laws on it now are because the topic became of interest to me.
I refuse to be called a thief when the RIAA failed to educate anybody. It makes me itch to use the word 'entrapment'.
As for the copy restricted CD format, it's perfectly okay for them to do that. I just hope they don't expect me to buy the music. I listen to music on my computer and on my Mp3 player. I am not buying a CD-Walkman (Discman?). If that were an acceptable solution, I wouldn't have replaced it with an MP3 player. I have a feeling other people will feel the same way. If that's the case, then the RIAA's sales will slowly decline. And you know what they'll do? They'll blame MP3s etc and claim that they were destroyed because they didn't get the technology out sooner.
"Consider this the logical evolution of the hardware dongle that 3DS Max once did, and possibly still does."
This is great for verifying media. However, the dongle comment put a scary thought in my head. I'm not sure if you intended to imply that the media could be used as a dongle, but let's pretend you did mean that:
There are a couple of problems: 1.) The dongle becomes very delicate and 2.) I've only got one CD drive, what happens when I want to run Lightwave and 3DS Max at the same time? (I.e. translating a model...)
If they can solve that, no worries. But I do hope they don't use it (protection/restriction-wise) for more than just verifying the media is original.
"Special effects will improve, making the mountain range look more realistic.."
:)
Your point is well made, but I do want to nitpick a little detail of it. I'm not trying to de-fuse it, but rather share a little insight I have into this example.
A mountain range is basically a matte painting, or even a photograph. They can be made more artistic, but the realism there was perfected many many years ago. However, replace 'a mountain range' with 'the ruins of an ancient civilization who built a city on it...' with it and your point shines more brightly. There are mountain ranges that have ancient cities built into them. If somebody were to go back and rebuild those cities to what they looked like, then oh yes the technology and the tools they have will greatly affect the result. This backs your point up a little better I think.
"It's just that you (along with your 'Anonvmous Coward' co-worker) come across as pretentious fucks... "
:)"
:)
Heh. I can see that! Of course that assumption about my personality is because everybody is jealous of me. *Smug mode*
"but your sense of humor and easy-on-the-brain writing style balances it out IMO.
I appreciate that, particularly the 'easy-on-the-brain' comment. On some posts, I do spend quite a bit of time trying to make sure the idea is clear as possible. I wish I could say it was for some honorable reason, but really it's to shake off abusive AC's. The biggest source of trolling I've had to endure is ambiguous sentences in my post.
Cheers man.
Umm do any of you guys remember the 'right-click' context menu? Heh.
Use your registerred nickname and I'll answer you. Or are you afraid to be publically embarrased?
"The amount of @sskissing required to get +5 for a seemingly pro-Microsoft comment is mind-boggling."
:)
Heh the last time I made a 'KDE is broken, look to MS for help' comment I got modded into oblivion, followed by lotsa heated flames. (Although none of them were actual responses to the criticisms I made...)
I thought I'd soften it this time around by showing the flaw of too much usability. I'm glad I did that because I hadn't thought about that copy/paste deal in quite a while. Now I understand why I got modded down originally. I was seeing the plusses of MS's usability choices, everybody else was seeing the minuses. In other words, I didn't present it too well originally. I had just assumed that Linux Zealousy had reigned. It didn't occur to me that I sounded like I was trolling.
Live and learn, eh?
Very insightful, thanks! :)
"Well instead of discussing the usability problems of KDE and the huge installation issues, he prefer to just go ahead and blame Microsoft. "
It's a pity, really. Few people here realize that MS's products demonstrate evolved wonderfully evolved usability. Yeah yeah, I know about the stability complaints and all. I'm not talking about productivity, I'm talking about usability. There's lots of things that both Windows and Office do right.
I'll give you an example of what I mean: If you take Internet Explorer, highlight a section of a web page, then paste it into Front Page, all of the HTML remains in tact. So if you're copying and pasting formatted text, you're not losing the formatting in the process. That's a good example of usability because it goes a little farther to give the user what they probably want.
Now, let me be clear about something: I did not say that MS made the right choice there. I'm not saying anything other than Windows/Office demonstrate that usability has been considered. (Note: Do not confuse the word term "considered" with "better than KDE", "best", "perfect", "good", etc...") After using KDE for a bit, it felt clunky... like I had to fight with it. As a matter of fact, I had trouble copying and pasting from a web page. I've heard a few people complain about that. I don't know if it's a problem anymore, nor do I care. It is only an example, please don't take it as KDE bashing. It could use a little more design work.
However, it is possible to be really obnoxious with usability, and MS has demonstrated that a number of times. That copy/paste example I used with IE/FP has serious drawbacks to it. They didn't think it all the way through. I copied/pasted some HTML I found on a website once into the HTML of the page I was working on. (as opposed to pasting it into the WYSIWYG interface...) Unfortunately, it wasn't smart enough to realize that I just wanted the plain-text translation of it, so it pasted the HTML that made the code look all pretty in the page, not the HTML itself I wanted to bring over. I had to paste it into Notepad, then re-copy it. It's 'usability' seriously got in my way. Unfortunately, that happens all too often because I wasnt using FrontPage the way MS assumed I would.
Here lies the problem with MS's forms of usability: They work great, only if you're doing exactly what MS thought you might want to do. This forces you to understand exactly how MS products are working internally, and that is not acceptable. I would love to see KDE take a few cues from MS on usability, but I do NOT want it to take too many of them. You can reach a point where you take a hit on productivity, MS has reached that point a number of times.
I was making a bad pun, not insulting homosexuals or Polish people. If any homosexual Polish people are offended, I sincerely apologize. (serious)
Too bad I was moderated improperly, forcing me to apologize for something I didn't say.
PSst: It was OFF-TOPIC, not flamebait.
"The point is: someone allowed Microsoft to patent a key and license it, and now they're trying to figure out ways around this."
I would recommend Notepad, personally.
"first post fagmagnets."
That'd be kinda funny if homosexuals were stereotyped as being pole-ish.
*Rimshot*
"Sony is just exercising their Freedom to Innovate(tm)."
Now you all know why I've said that Sony is more evil than MS. Nobody ever believes me. Sony is downright RUTHLESS. MS is just arrogant. It's kinda like comparing Khan and Dr. Evil.
That's true.
Another factor is that limitations often result in better work. The original Star Trek series is a classic example. They didn't have the budget to film a landing sequence for every episode, so the writers invented 'transporters'. Not only did that provide a key technology in the Trek universe, but it also removed the need for a lot of extra dialog. I don't think I could stand hearing them shout out every little procedure required to make the landing. "Coming in at 250 knots, engaging lateral thrusters."
While Episode II was pretty much considered a bad movie, it did accomplish some stuff that is seriously cool. There was a LOT of footage in that movie where the background was a miniature standing about 18" tall. That surprised the hell out of me when I picked up the latest issue of Cinefex! They actually built this tiny miniature of a room, placed a robotically controlled camera in it, and composited blue-screened actors over it. We're not talking static background either, the camera moved through the set quite casually.
This technique isn't new, it dates back to the early 80s. (Greatest American Hero, for example..) AOTC did a wonderful job of pulling that off convincingly.
I really can't wait to see this type of advance winding it's way down to independent moviemakers. I'm really curious what happens when somebody uninhibited by mass-market considerations is able to get their imagination on screen.
"we'll see more of realistic-looking special effects in future titles. "
I dunno... I mean it's not like we're going to clone dinosaurs and compare them to Jurassic Park and see how realistic they really were.
Convincing would definitely be a better word...
If you are incapable of understanding what I said because I typed 'ur' instead of 'you are', then maybe you should be allowed to park in handicapped zones.
Ah, it's a parody then?
That explains why it was familiar hehe. Thanks dude!
Hee hee I getcha.
Mark me as foe then. Kids wanting to be friends with everybody make me sick. It's like living on Sesame Street.
"The biggest advantage Opera has (in my opinion) is that it has a little button that turns images on or off. Quickly enabling or disabling images makes browsing on a dial-up connection much less painful."
Thankfully it also filters out Slashdot ads!
Okay, way off-topic here:
Where's ur sig from? I think it's from an adventure game not unlike Zork, but I can't place it. Help me out?
The database is only useful if you know what you're looking for.
"Because your sig, being "Not Funny," it is remarkably "On Topic." This is unlike your posts, which are both "Not Funny" and "Off-Topic."
Makes me glad 'funny' isn't a scientific measurement.
So what real benefit do you get for marking me as foe? Any particular reason I should care? I'm not particularly educated on the 'friend/foe' features of Slashdot.