"although i'll probably pay for the bannerless just to support them."
Well, this is an amusing coincidence: As I read this post, Opera ran an ad in their banner about paying $19.99 (half price) for Opera and you get entered into a drawing to win a Zaurus.
I was about to say "I havent decided whether to pay for it or not because I like the comic ads...) but that changed my mind. Im just gonna pay for it. Heh.
"It's free if you don't mind the built-in banner ad."
For a while they were showing comics in that space. That was seriously cool.
That's an interesting way to do banner ads: They provided interesting content up there to grab my attention. Then, I start looking up there frequently to see if there's something of interest as opposed to focusing it out. That's ingenious! It's kinda like how TV works.
If websites had figured that out ages ago, I betcha anything that we'd not only have a market for 'banner based content', but there'd also be a more successful ad model.
Lucas is not known for his consistency. As a matter of fact, he's only got 6 movies to keep track of and he can't even manage that. In light of that, Star Trek is infinitely better in terms of consistency.
"...but if I had a job related to the continuation of it you better believe I'd do my homework."
I got news for ya: You'd definitely make mistakes. Let's do a little math:
4 series. TOS had 3 seasons (I think), TNG had 7, DS9 had 7, Voy had 7. There were 10 movies, 6 of which based on the TOS crew, the other 4 were based on the TNG crew (with one approaching rapidly.) I think the number of episodes per season was in the 22-27 range depending on the series, so let's pretend there's 23 eps per season just for giggles. 7 * 3 + 3 = 24. 24 * 23 = approximately 552 episodes to watch.
Sorry, you're human mind isn't capable of doing that error free. This isn't a 'homework' scenario, it's a PHD.
POTS stands for P.lain O.ld T.elephone S.ervice. It's an old acronym for your typical analog phone. It was frequently used when describing 56k vs. broadband, but seems to have died down after the dot-bombs.
I agree, spelling it out woulda been nice. But I did have fun with my pot joke. heh.
Worthless trivia: AT&T Broadband sometimes lists the city in which a customer is in in their addie, for some reason Portland was shortened to 'potlnd'. Heh. I see that every time I go on IRC.
- The writers can't keep track of 10 movies and 24 seasons of episodes! Why can't they dedicate their lives to memorizing the Star Trek timeline like I have?
- STTNG was the only good series, the rest were crap. I can't believe they'd keep this show going even though the ratings were so good!
- Enterprise sucks! It offends me so deeply I want to tear my eyes out! I just can't get over there being a scifi show I don't like.
- I don't like this show, so nobody should.
I like to read these comments, then sit back and imagine what Galaxy Quest 2 will be like.
... they really aren't dumb. If you treat them like they are, how are they ever supposed to become so independent that violence in the media won't cause them to go on a Robocop rampage?
I learned from GTA 3 is that you can never outrun the cops. Not only do they have transporter technology to materialize wherever you are, but they have a clone army ready to take you out as well!
"I'm sick of people believing that contrarian opinions automatically make them insightful"
I'm sick of people challenging my 'contrarian opinions' (I prefer to call them observations) because they believe a corp like Starbucks is nothing but evil. Take my observations as just that, observations. Automatically judge them as in the wrong and you are doing no good for anybody.
"Starbucks knew there was already wireless equipment in the area, and they chose to ignore it. Sure, they're just trying to make a profit, and while "evil" is probably too strong a word, they are being jerks about it."
Let's apply a little common sense here: Starbucks will likely have other stores set up wireless internet. The whole business model would break if people have to change their settings based on every Starbucks they go to.
"This has everything to do with trying to wipe out another service like it, of course it's geography, and it can't be coincidence if they were aware of the other service before they put in their own"
Um yeah. That's rational. "Lets make our bullying image worse!" Too bad the org that set up the free service didn't have a chat with Starbuck's HQ instead of the technicians that were only doing their job.
"it seems they're either rude, lazy or both if they don't change their channel. i mean, come on! the techs doing the install knew at least..."
I know why they didn't. Starbuck's has been talking about 'wireless plans' for ages. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they were rolling it out in a bunch of locations across the US. Assuming that's true, the biggest kink in their plans would be if people had to switch their settings every time they went to a Starbuck's to use the net.
I have a wirless network both at work and at home. Just last night I went home and had to change a setting to get on the home network, and it was a surprising hassle. (didn't help much that I was really tired.) I'm technically saavy. I'm not saying it's hard to change settings, but there are situations it can be a nuisance. Hopefully I'll have the settings matched up between here and home before too long. That's what Starbuck's is going to need to do to roll out plans. (Funny Slashdot's against them, Starbuck's is all over the place and if 802.11 appears at every location it'll be a far better rollout then we'll see from a telco like AT&T.)
Frankly, it was irresponsible of the local place (heh despite all this, I still have no idea what their name is. Maybe they should advertise?) to choose channel 1. They are located in the center of a bunch of office buildings. It's reasonable to expect that some of those offices are going to experiment with their own wireless cloud, of course defaulting to channel 1. With this default setting set up over a city block, they're degrading service for other people using the 802.11 cloud for private reasons.
Frankly, that company should have picked a neutral channel, then ADVERTISED they were on it. I, for one, would be pissed if I set up a wireless node and only got 1 megabit out of it. My first assumption would not be that there was another cloud nearby.
Getting 'lots of usage' and 'everybody being aware of it' are not directly proportional to each other. It is very easy to get by in Portland without ever hearing of those guys down at Pioneer Square. I'm certainly not surprised that a Seattle based company wasn't aware of it.
"Not quite the same as Sony. At least the Playstation was a somewhat original, innovative platform in its day. The XBox is
literally just a low end PC (by today's standard) with a hot graphics card, albeit with a restrictive BIOS/firmware."
If that's true, how come it is having such an easy time competing with the PS2 or GameCube?
Processing power was exactly what I was talking about.
"According to the article, Starbucks didn't even know there was a conflict..."
This is probable. Virtually nobody is aware of the service down at Pioneer Square. The only reason I found out about it was a short blurb on the news a few months ago.
I know most of you are gonna go on about how Starbucks is evil and a bunch of other irrational bullshit, I thought I'd inject some common sense from somebody who lives by Pioneer Square:
"Representatives of Starbucks and T-Mobile owner VoiceStream said they were unaware of any other wireless Internet presence in the square and had no comment on Personal Telco's objection."
Let me tell you something about Pioneer Square: Nobody's walking around with wireless devices screwing around on the web. To tell you the truth, the only way you could have found out this service was even availble was a quick blurb on the news. It doesn't surprise me at all that Starbuck's didn't even know it was there. Heck, it was sheer chance that I even found out about it. I go by Pioneer Square nearly ever day, I can honestly say I have never ever seen anybody doing wireless stuff there. (Not saying they don't do it, just saying that it's not visible.) I don't think more than a handful of people are aware of the 802.11 cloud present there.
Now, Starbuck's is right there on the square. They could set up a nice little antenna (heck, they could probably just use a $150 gateway, serious.) and it'd work just fine. This has nothing to do with trying to wipe out another service like it, it's just geography, it's just a coincidence.
"Well, there are plenty of artists and bands who are selling thier music in mp3 format"
So? The artists I want to listen to don't do it, otherwise I wouldn't be bitching about it. Music isn't like buying chocolate (few ppl are picky about chocolate), it's like buying paintings.
If the RIAA wants me to buy their music, they should be saying "What does this guy want?" instead of saying "How do we make sure this guy doesn't give his music to everybody."
Geez they act like I'm interested in giving my crap away.
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"although i'll probably pay for the bannerless just to support them."
Well, this is an amusing coincidence: As I read this post, Opera ran an ad in their banner about paying $19.99 (half price) for Opera and you get entered into a drawing to win a Zaurus.
I was about to say "I havent decided whether to pay for it or not because I like the comic ads...) but that changed my mind. Im just gonna pay for it. Heh.
The timing of that was pretty cool!
Well, I can draw a couple conclusions from that:
Your foe list is verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry long from frequently adding people.
-or-
You've been keeping an eye on me and you're not quite sure whether to like or hate me.
Am I close? Way off? Just curious, I'd rather hear what you say than make assumptions that are probably wrong.
Now I can say with authority "If they can get it to the South Pole, you can get it here." next time I call AT&T BI.
"It's free if you don't mind the built-in banner ad."
For a while they were showing comics in that space. That was seriously cool.
That's an interesting way to do banner ads: They provided interesting content up there to grab my attention. Then, I start looking up there frequently to see if there's something of interest as opposed to focusing it out. That's ingenious! It's kinda like how TV works.
If websites had figured that out ages ago, I betcha anything that we'd not only have a market for 'banner based content', but there'd also be a more successful ad model.
Why is my sig more popular than my posts?
"This case is out of hand."
It's not like they had both hands available to hold it down.
Lucas is not known for his consistency. As a matter of fact, he's only got 6 movies to keep track of and he can't even manage that. In light of that, Star Trek is infinitely better in terms of consistency.
"...but if I had a job related to the continuation of it you better believe I'd do my homework."
I got news for ya: You'd definitely make mistakes. Let's do a little math:
4 series. TOS had 3 seasons (I think), TNG had 7, DS9 had 7, Voy had 7. There were 10 movies, 6 of which based on the TOS crew, the other 4 were based on the TNG crew (with one approaching rapidly.) I think the number of episodes per season was in the 22-27 range depending on the series, so let's pretend there's 23 eps per season just for giggles. 7 * 3 + 3 = 24. 24 * 23 = approximately 552 episodes to watch.
Sorry, you're human mind isn't capable of doing that error free. This isn't a 'homework' scenario, it's a PHD.
Sorry Mr. Data, I can't. I'm not Joe Piscapo.
POTS stands for P.lain O.ld T.elephone S.ervice. It's an old acronym for your typical analog phone. It was frequently used when describing 56k vs. broadband, but seems to have died down after the dot-bombs.
I agree, spelling it out woulda been nice. But I did have fun with my pot joke. heh.
Worthless trivia: AT&T Broadband sometimes lists the city in which a customer is in in their addie, for some reason Portland was shortened to 'potlnd'. Heh. I see that every time I go on IRC.
... I can never get enough of these comments:
- The writers can't keep track of 10 movies and 24 seasons of episodes! Why can't they dedicate their lives to memorizing the Star Trek timeline like I have?
- STTNG was the only good series, the rest were crap. I can't believe they'd keep this show going even though the ratings were so good!
- Enterprise sucks! It offends me so deeply I want to tear my eyes out! I just can't get over there being a scifi show I don't like.
- I don't like this show, so nobody should.
I like to read these comments, then sit back and imagine what Galaxy Quest 2 will be like.
That's the problem. The funnier you are, the fewer in number people are that will get the joke.
If you understood humor, you would have a deeper understanding of my sig.
"Donahue thinks games are making me violent...... damnit, I'm going to bean him to a bloody pulp and run him over with a truck for saying that. "
How many times did you hear that joke before you decided to share it with us?
... they really aren't dumb. If you treat them like they are, how are they ever supposed to become so independent that violence in the media won't cause them to go on a Robocop rampage?
I learned from GTA 3 is that you can never outrun the cops. Not only do they have transporter technology to materialize wherever you are, but they have a clone army ready to take you out as well!
I guess replacing it's easier than legalizing it.
"I'm sick of people believing that contrarian opinions automatically make them insightful"
I'm sick of people challenging my 'contrarian opinions' (I prefer to call them observations) because they believe a corp like Starbucks is nothing but evil. Take my observations as just that, observations. Automatically judge them as in the wrong and you are doing no good for anybody.
Yes, I'm a contract employee with Starbucks who's job it is to convince people that they want to be taken over the world by them.
I love these idiotic "Are you paid by them?" arguments. That's almost as high as accusing Starbucks of being like Nazi Germany. Just as mature, too.
"Starbucks knew there was already wireless equipment in the area, and they chose to ignore it. Sure, they're just trying to make a profit, and while "evil" is probably too strong a word, they are being jerks about it."
Let's apply a little common sense here: Starbucks will likely have other stores set up wireless internet. The whole business model would break if people have to change their settings based on every Starbucks they go to.
"This has everything to do with trying to wipe out another service like it, of course it's geography, and it can't be coincidence if they were aware of the other service before they put in their own"
Um yeah. That's rational. "Lets make our bullying image worse!" Too bad the org that set up the free service didn't have a chat with Starbuck's HQ instead of the technicians that were only doing their job.
"it seems they're either rude, lazy or both if they don't change their channel. i mean, come on! the techs doing the install knew at least..."
I know why they didn't. Starbuck's has been talking about 'wireless plans' for ages. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they were rolling it out in a bunch of locations across the US. Assuming that's true, the biggest kink in their plans would be if people had to switch their settings every time they went to a Starbuck's to use the net.
I have a wirless network both at work and at home. Just last night I went home and had to change a setting to get on the home network, and it was a surprising hassle. (didn't help much that I was really tired.) I'm technically saavy. I'm not saying it's hard to change settings, but there are situations it can be a nuisance. Hopefully I'll have the settings matched up between here and home before too long. That's what Starbuck's is going to need to do to roll out plans. (Funny Slashdot's against them, Starbuck's is all over the place and if 802.11 appears at every location it'll be a far better rollout then we'll see from a telco like AT&T.)
Frankly, it was irresponsible of the local place (heh despite all this, I still have no idea what their name is. Maybe they should advertise?) to choose channel 1. They are located in the center of a bunch of office buildings. It's reasonable to expect that some of those offices are going to experiment with their own wireless cloud, of course defaulting to channel 1. With this default setting set up over a city block, they're degrading service for other people using the 802.11 cloud for private reasons.
Frankly, that company should have picked a neutral channel, then ADVERTISED they were on it. I, for one, would be pissed if I set up a wireless node and only got 1 megabit out of it. My first assumption would not be that there was another cloud nearby.
Getting 'lots of usage' and 'everybody being aware of it' are not directly proportional to each other. It is very easy to get by in Portland without ever hearing of those guys down at Pioneer Square. I'm certainly not surprised that a Seattle based company wasn't aware of it.
Processing power was exactly what I was talking about.
"According to the article, Starbucks didn't even know there was a conflict..."
This is probable. Virtually nobody is aware of the service down at Pioneer Square. The only reason I found out about it was a short blurb on the news a few months ago.
I know most of you are gonna go on about how Starbucks is evil and a bunch of other irrational bullshit, I thought I'd inject some common sense from somebody who lives by Pioneer Square:
"Representatives of Starbucks and T-Mobile owner VoiceStream said they were unaware of any other wireless Internet presence in the square and had no comment on Personal Telco's objection."
Let me tell you something about Pioneer Square: Nobody's walking around with wireless devices screwing around on the web. To tell you the truth, the only way you could have found out this service was even availble was a quick blurb on the news. It doesn't surprise me at all that Starbuck's didn't even know it was there. Heck, it was sheer chance that I even found out about it. I go by Pioneer Square nearly ever day, I can honestly say I have never ever seen anybody doing wireless stuff there. (Not saying they don't do it, just saying that it's not visible.) I don't think more than a handful of people are aware of the 802.11 cloud present there.
Now, Starbuck's is right there on the square. They could set up a nice little antenna (heck, they could probably just use a $150 gateway, serious.) and it'd work just fine. This has nothing to do with trying to wipe out another service like it, it's just geography, it's just a coincidence.
"Well, there are plenty of artists and bands who are selling thier music in mp3 format"
So? The artists I want to listen to don't do it, otherwise I wouldn't be bitching about it. Music isn't like buying chocolate (few ppl are picky about chocolate), it's like buying paintings.
If the RIAA wants me to buy their music, they should be saying "What does this guy want?" instead of saying "How do we make sure this guy doesn't give his music to everybody."
Geez they act like I'm interested in giving my crap away.