"His bill would allow copyright holders to set up decoy files and use other techno-tricks like file-blocking and redirection to throw P2P pirates off the trail, but it would forbid those holders from employing tactics that would damage or destroy pirates' own computer systems."
Why would he need to pass a bill for that? I don't remember it being against the law to be deceptive on P2P...
(I'm not being sarcastic here, I'm seriously interested in knowing why he'd need laws passed for this?)
"Copyright infringers are by definition in the wrong and copyright holders should have the legal means of stopping them."
Until our rights as consumers are defined (i.e. you have the right to have a backup copy of your music...) then the RIAA has no business being 'armed'.
I don't have the right to put a bomb in my car and make it explode if somebody steals it. The RIAA should never be given the right to harass anybody. If they have a complaint about somebody in particular, they have laws they can sue them with. If that's not enough, then maybe they need to reconsider their business plan.
Shit dude, I misread that. I thought you were implying they bounced radio signals off of Alpha Centauri. Heh. That'd be seriously cool if they got that to work. Something like that would prove that SETI could recieve a radio signal from another star. (or possibly prove that it can't...) That'd either improve SETI's funding, or cause them to rethink their approach.
I laser-guided a cat up my mother's leg once. I don't remember if it was the band-aids or the ruined stockings that cost more, heh. That was a boring weekend I spent in my room, though.
"because he asked a legal question and I think the most used phrase in this thread has been "IANAL".
That's fair. I think what he was fishing for was other people who had a problem like this in the past. I don't think he expects us to say anything unless it's either a "black and white no shades of gray" answer, or a story about a similar incident that they knew about.
Don't worry, I totally understand what you're saying. I'm just saying that, at least, there might be some experience the Slashdot community could offer.
Nearly everybody who signed that petition weren't signing to have it changed, rather they were using the comment section to tell the starter that he was an idiot. Heh. It would have been a more amusing read if the petition had been/.'d.
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"This isn't news! I saw the trailer on Kazaa a month ago!"
and...
"Why are they posting movie trailers when there's an article on obscuresciencenews.com about a new discovery that means we can build 4% more heat restistant alloys in 40 years."
"Why do you think they care? They are developing a different market, of which 'game console' is just a part."
That's an interesting question. Why would they care? Well let me ask you something: You're shopping for a PVR. Is the one that costs $50-$100 extra because it has some capability of playing games interesting to you? If you already have an XBOX, do you want to pay a higher price to play those games on it?
Do you know anybody who bought a DVD player that has NUON hardware in it?
Thanks for providing the alternative perspective, I hadn't thought of it from the non-gamer point of view. I think it's going to be a tough sell.
Okay, I think most of us think an XBOX/PVR combo is pretty silly.
There are a few positives I see. I dunno if they're enough to make me buy it, but it's fun to think about:
It would be nice to have a DVD Player and a PVR in one box. Hook it up to the network and you've got a net connection. Imagine watching TV and getting a little icon saying you have message from somebody you're interested in hearing from. Pause the TV like Tivo, fire off a quick response via IR keyboard, then unpause and continue to watch. This'd be a neat feature during a game as well.
Actually, having a DVD/PVR combo by itself is pretty cool.
Curious: Wouldn't get you get sticker shock at the $500 price tag?
The reason I ask is that right now, you could buy an XBOX and 6 new games for the same price as the PVR Combo. Not to mention that there will likely be some sort of subscription charge to get the most out of the PVR half.
Me personally, if I had that kind of money, I'd buy the units seperately. My main concern is that the features of the XBOX PVR may not be as interesting as a competing product for only a little bit more. Know what I mean?
"The product is controversial in part because it creates a conflict within the machine: will the game slow down so that the hard drive can record "BattleBots"?"
A game machine is not a PC. It's a game machine. A game machine doesn't want to be $500. A game machine doesn't want to be interrupted by non-gaming experiences. Remember the CD-I (Phillips) or the 3DO? A game machine aspires to being played, that's it.
Microsoft: Halt development of the combo unit, and pump the money into having games made for the XBOX. I don't have an XBOX today because I'm not wild about the game selection on it. Building a PVR into it will not save you, not for $500.
I misread part of his post. My opinion's still basically the same, but if I had the ability to take back the part where I said "He didn't make a valid point", I would, and I'd apologize.
I read his post too quickly and missed a sentence. I really hate it when I do that.
.... the headline that Russia is poising to restrict net access popped an image in my mind of a Dilbert cartoon that took place in Elbonia. One of the Elbonians had a cardboard box over his head cut out like a monitor and his buddy was sitting in front of him pretending to type. Then the dude said "Now it's my turn to be the computer."
If that cartoon were reprinted today, I can imagine the other guy responding with "no way, you're too extreme." Heh.
"Add a few hundred MHz to decode simultaneously. However, the big problem is disk seeks."
The problem I've had is threading. (Although I have no doubt the seeks are a serious contributer here...) Other apps, even the not so intensive ones, can interfere with each other. They don't get even priorities. (Any advice?)
I don't have a free machine to try this with, but I am curious what happens if I take a 1.2 gig machine and have it capture video while playing it back. I'm reasonably sure what'll happen is either the playback will get interrupted to the point of frustration, or the encoding will drop a lot of frames. On a dual processor machine (Even if it was only dual 400's), I could even out the processes better.
Anybody else ever tried something like this? I'm unable to do the appropriate test at home. My 1.2 gig athlon hates my TV card.
"Otherwise most people will just stick with a perminant OHP pen and write on the CD. It's cheap and it works."
Hmm... I dunno if this'll be a hit with consumers or not. I kind of thought the CD burner market was already saturated.
However, I would pay extra $$$ for a DVD burner that has this feature. It could make auto-backups a hell of a lot easier because I could skip the labelling step. One of the things I want to do is burn a CD of all my Lightwave projects. It'd be cool if the burner software was smart enough to get all the folder names and burn those into the disk.
In other words, I could burn and forget instead of trying to decypher my handwriting later.;)
Who knows, it may very well be a hit with the organizationally impaired such as myself. I damn bought a dedicated CD-Label printer.
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"(Berman) has called for a posse of copyright vigilantes," she said
If a posse of copyright vigilantes actually forms, what's going to happen is they're going to turn their attention to the RIAA.
"Ah, so you don't want to support people's rights to fair use, mmm? You want to pass overreaching legislation like the SSSCA, hmmm?"
"His bill would allow copyright holders to set up decoy files and use other techno-tricks like file-blocking and redirection to throw P2P pirates off the trail, but it would forbid those holders from employing tactics that would damage or destroy pirates' own computer systems."
Why would he need to pass a bill for that? I don't remember it being against the law to be deceptive on P2P...
(I'm not being sarcastic here, I'm seriously interested in knowing why he'd need laws passed for this?)
"Copyright infringers are by definition in the wrong and copyright holders should have the legal means of stopping them."
Until our rights as consumers are defined (i.e. you have the right to have a backup copy of your music...) then the RIAA has no business being 'armed'.
I don't have the right to put a bomb in my car and make it explode if somebody steals it. The RIAA should never be given the right to harass anybody. If they have a complaint about somebody in particular, they have laws they can sue them with. If that's not enough, then maybe they need to reconsider their business plan.
"Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif.) wants to legalize DoS attacks on P2P networks such as Kazaa and Morpheus by "copyright holders".
Umm okay. They can have that right if I can have the right to DoS the RIAA for infringing on my fair use rights. After all, all men are created equal.
Shit dude, I misread that. I thought you were implying they bounced radio signals off of Alpha Centauri. Heh. That'd be seriously cool if they got that to work. Something like that would prove that SETI could recieve a radio signal from another star. (or possibly prove that it can't...) That'd either improve SETI's funding, or cause them to rethink their approach.
"Yep, light's great for communicating with cats."
I laser-guided a cat up my mother's leg once. I don't remember if it was the band-aids or the ruined stockings that cost more, heh. That was a boring weekend I spent in my room, though.
:)
"Amateur Lightwave Tricks"
Shit, I got excited because I thought this was a thread about using Lightwave 3D.
"thye don't do it to hurt the linuxers. they do it because they see 3rd party applications that are able to read thier file formats as a threat."
That makes me wonder when Office is coming out for the XBOX. I bet it happens at some point.
MS can legally (as near as I can tell) support a monopoly on a game system.
"because he asked a legal question and I think the most used phrase in this thread has been "IANAL".
That's fair. I think what he was fishing for was other people who had a problem like this in the past. I don't think he expects us to say anything unless it's either a "black and white no shades of gray" answer, or a story about a similar incident that they knew about.
Don't worry, I totally understand what you're saying. I'm just saying that, at least, there might be some experience the Slashdot community could offer.
My company interviewed a guy who answered kind of like that. After poking him a couple of times about it, we found out he'd been in jail. Heh.
"It had over 1000 signatures :/"
/.'d.
Nearly everybody who signed that petition weren't signing to have it changed, rather they were using the comment section to tell the starter that he was an idiot. Heh. It would have been a more amusing read if the petition had been
"But really, since when did "Ask Slashdot" become "Free Advice for those who don't want to ask their Lawer?".
/. to figure out what to do?
Which is fine to a point, but what's wrong with drawing on the collective experience of
The worst case scenario is that he has more questions to ask his lawyer. (Note: He didn't say he wasn't going to consult a lawyer.)
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You forgot:
"This isn't news! I saw the trailer on Kazaa a month ago!"
and...
"Why are they posting movie trailers when there's an article on obscuresciencenews.com about a new discovery that means we can build 4% more heat restistant alloys in 40 years."
:)
"Why do you think they care? They are developing a different market, of which 'game console' is just a part."
That's an interesting question. Why would they care? Well let me ask you something: You're shopping for a PVR. Is the one that costs $50-$100 extra because it has some capability of playing games interesting to you? If you already have an XBOX, do you want to pay a higher price to play those games on it?
Do you know anybody who bought a DVD player that has NUON hardware in it?
Thanks for providing the alternative perspective, I hadn't thought of it from the non-gamer point of view. I think it's going to be a tough sell.
Okay, I think most of us think an XBOX/PVR combo is pretty silly.
There are a few positives I see. I dunno if they're enough to make me buy it, but it's fun to think about:
It would be nice to have a DVD Player and a PVR in one box. Hook it up to the network and you've got a net connection. Imagine watching TV and getting a little icon saying you have message from somebody you're interested in hearing from. Pause the TV like Tivo, fire off a quick response via IR keyboard, then unpause and continue to watch. This'd be a neat feature during a game as well.
Actually, having a DVD/PVR combo by itself is pretty cool.
Curious: Wouldn't get you get sticker shock at the $500 price tag?
The reason I ask is that right now, you could buy an XBOX and 6 new games for the same price as the PVR Combo. Not to mention that there will likely be some sort of subscription charge to get the most out of the PVR half.
Me personally, if I had that kind of money, I'd buy the units seperately. My main concern is that the features of the XBOX PVR may not be as interesting as a competing product for only a little bit more. Know what I mean?
"The product is controversial in part because it creates a conflict within the machine: will the game slow down so that the hard drive can record "BattleBots"?"
A game machine is not a PC. It's a game machine. A game machine doesn't want to be $500. A game machine doesn't want to be interrupted by non-gaming experiences. Remember the CD-I (Phillips) or the 3DO? A game machine aspires to being played, that's it.
Microsoft: Halt development of the combo unit, and pump the money into having games made for the XBOX. I don't have an XBOX today because I'm not wild about the game selection on it. Building a PVR into it will not save you, not for $500.
"Perhaps it's time for Slashdot to add an Ethics topic?"
I'd appreciate it. I'd submit an article on some of the moderations I've recieved lately. Heh.
No worries.
I misread part of his post. My opinion's still basically the same, but if I had the ability to take back the part where I said "He didn't make a valid point", I would, and I'd apologize.
I read his post too quickly and missed a sentence. I really hate it when I do that.
.... the headline that Russia is poising to restrict net access popped an image in my mind of a Dilbert cartoon that took place in Elbonia. One of the Elbonians had a cardboard box over his head cut out like a monitor and his buddy was sitting in front of him pretending to type. Then the dude said "Now it's my turn to be the computer."
If that cartoon were reprinted today, I can imagine the other guy responding with "no way, you're too extreme." Heh.
"Add a few hundred MHz to decode simultaneously. However, the big problem is disk seeks."
The problem I've had is threading. (Although I have no doubt the seeks are a serious contributer here...) Other apps, even the not so intensive ones, can interfere with each other. They don't get even priorities. (Any advice?)
I don't have a free machine to try this with, but I am curious what happens if I take a 1.2 gig machine and have it capture video while playing it back. I'm reasonably sure what'll happen is either the playback will get interrupted to the point of frustration, or the encoding will drop a lot of frames. On a dual processor machine (Even if it was only dual 400's), I could even out the processes better.
Anybody else ever tried something like this? I'm unable to do the appropriate test at home. My 1.2 gig athlon hates my TV card.
"You weren't the only one. I couldn't figure out what "Tea at 2:00" had to do with burning CDs..."
My girlfriend's into crafts. I'm sure she'd love to burn me some coasters. heh.
It's probably just a bunch of Thermians visiting the birthplace of Mr. Scott.
"Otherwise most people will just stick with a perminant OHP pen and write on the CD. It's cheap and it works."
;)
Hmm... I dunno if this'll be a hit with consumers or not. I kind of thought the CD burner market was already saturated.
However, I would pay extra $$$ for a DVD burner that has this feature. It could make auto-backups a hell of a lot easier because I could skip the labelling step. One of the things I want to do is burn a CD of all my Lightwave projects. It'd be cool if the burner software was smart enough to get all the folder names and burn those into the disk.
In other words, I could burn and forget instead of trying to decypher my handwriting later.
Who knows, it may very well be a hit with the organizationally impaired such as myself. I damn bought a dedicated CD-Label printer.