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Two Towers Teaser Trailer

SicariusMan writes "Seems there is a Two Towers teaser out at movie-list.com. Thank goodness for the CrossOver Plugin." And Astin writes "Ain't it cool news has a list of mirrors showing the new LoTR trailer. More action and burning and orcs, etc, etc, etc."

359 comments

  1. HAAHAHA by TweeKinDaBahx · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I still haven't seen LoTR, SW:E2, or Spider-man.

    I haven't been to a theatre in over 5 months. (last movie i saw was 'how high').

    Boycott the MPAA.

    1. Re:HAAHAHA by Sergeant+Beavis · · Score: 1

      You really haven't missed anything..

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    2. Re:HAAHAHA by Bobo_The_Boinger · · Score: 0

      You went to the movie theatre for How High, but not for LOTR, or Spider-Man?? Well, I guess if I had paid money to see How High I might be put off of movies for a while too.

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    3. Re:HAAHAHA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why boycott the MPAA? What did they ever do to you? (I'm serious, not a troll)

    4. Re:HAAHAHA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I haven't been to a theatre in over 5 months. (last movie i saw was 'how high').

      Well then, I can see why you wouldn't want to go back to the theaters. I had the same trouble after watching that shit sandwich.
    5. Re:HAAHAHA by colmore · · Score: 1, Troll

      Probably the same reason I do: $10 for stupid hollywood crap.

      ummm... yeah and uh... something to do with DivX or something like that too...

      Last movie I was glad I paid for was The Royal Tennenbaums. Though I missed Amelie, and everyone who knows my tastes said that I would have loved it.

      Spider-Man just freaked me out. You could see my dorm window in the background of one of the early shots. Most movies say they're filming at Berkeley or "Ithica" or wherever, but just show some movie set. When Spider-Man said "Columbia," they meant Columbia. Except for the spider lab in Low Library, what was up with that?

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    6. Re:HAAHAHA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And those cars driving through campus, how weird was that?

  2. I know I can't wait!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's like a dream come true to see the books on film! To heck with any detractors!!!

  3. QuickTime by mbbac · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know why the Two Towers teaser isn't up at apple.com/trailers/? They've used Apple for all of their other stuff. It seems odd for them to change now.

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    1. Re:QuickTime by thaigan · · Score: 1

      Maybe the trailer is a bootleg of the one they're showing at the end of FoTR right now?

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    2. Re:QuickTime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's a bootleg (choppy video due to it being a theater captured video), and I don't see Apple supporting bootlegging, even of trailers.

    3. Re:QuickTime by Wombat · · Score: 1

      It is a bootleg, but not of the preview that's at the end of FotR... the preview appended to the first installment is much longer.

      This is the trailer that's going to be attached to the new Austin Powers movie (as theonering.net speculates), but it looks like it's been leaked a bit early. I imagine it'll go up on apple's site in higher quality once it's officially released.

      -Wombat

    4. Re:QuickTime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      god hates you.

    5. Re:QuickTime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should die a painfull and slow death for offending the great Apple

    6. Re:QuickTime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there anywhere that has it in something besides lame-ass crashtime? that has to be the worst programmed app in the world; my brother destroyed one of my computers by installin qt, and an old girlfriend messed up her computer really bad with it as well.

      Friends dont let friends install Apple programs.

    7. Re:QuickTime by CmdrKrev · · Score: 1

      Counterexample: (I swear, this HAS actually happened to me)... (And yes, this IS offtopic)

      I had to reinstall Windows because I installed Windows on a freshly formatted hard disk. The only apps I had installed after the initial Windows install was all the service packs and updates from MS for Win98 (that seemed reasonable: critical updates, IE6, OE6, WMP7, DX8)... Then after a restart I got a dialog that said 'Re-install Windows'. Go figure.

    8. Re:QuickTime by piznut · · Score: 0

      Can we say bad hardware?

    9. Re:QuickTime by mbbac · · Score: 1
      that has to be the worst programmed app in the world; my brother destroyed one of my computers by installin qt

      If the code is so bad, why did Microsoft feel that they had to steal it?
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  4. This has been out a long time. by Maverick+TimeSurfer · · Score: 0, Troll

    This is news? The teaser for the Two Towers movie has been out for a looong time. It can be found at most bookstores. Unless you want to call that a pre-view, or a novelization. You don't NEED teasers for movies of classic books if you can read.

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    1. Re:This has been out a long time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It has. I saw it at E3. Also I heard that if you go see LOTR in theaters about a month or 2 ago, after the ending credits they show the two towers trailer.

    2. Re:This has been out a long time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if I'm an auditory learner HUH!?

    3. Re:This has been out a long time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know about you, but when I want to see a teaser trailer, it's because I want to see the cinematics. I don't watch a teaser trailer in order to find out the plot of the movie (which is what reading the book would be). In fact, with most movies I avoid finding out key elements of the plot.

    4. Re:This has been out a long time. by silicon_synapse · · Score: 2, Funny

      What if I'm an auditory learner HUH!?

      Read out loud

  5. Meta comment by Laplace · · Score: 5, Funny

    * This movie is going to rock. I can't wait!

    * Stupid apple doesn't port Quicktime to linux.

    * So do we support the MPAA today, or are we against them?

    * The Matrix Reloaded is going to be much cooler than this one.

    * How dare they call it The Two Towers after 9-11.

    Remember kids, you heard it here first.

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    1. Re:Meta comment by jdcook · · Score: 2

      You forgot: "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of Gandalfs!"

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    2. Re:Meta comment by agrounds · · Score: 2, Funny

      MetaModeration

      * This movie is going to rock. I can't wait!

      I think Jackson is dragging it out on purpose just to make the geeks sweat it out and buy more McFarlane toys

      * Stupid apple doesn't port Quicktime to linux.

      Apple's Idea of Open Source

      * So do we support the MPAA today, or are we against them?

      /me checks the direction of the wind at this precise moment

      * The Matrix Reloaded is going to be much cooler than this one.

      Unfortunately for the Warchowski brothers, now that everyone and their brother-in-law's dogs cousin has stolen every directing trick they used in the first one, we (the audience) are a little jaded by 30 second bullet-time sequences. Let's hope they break new ground here.

      * How dare they call it The Two Towers after 9-11.

      I actually hope there is a special blurb in every movie and TV show that comes out from this moment on in time, that features the Trade Centers in all their glory, followed by a subliminal flashing of the phrase 'unclench' that etches itself permanently into the frontal lobes of all viewers in a 50 mile radius, then instructs them to construct hats of tinfoil and hide in their basements.

    3. Re:Meta comment by Ivan+Raikov · · Score: 2

      You forgot: "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of Gandalfs!"

      And a pot calling the kettle black!

    4. Re:Meta comment by Flamerule · · Score: 1

      What about "Hey Taco, how about a Lord of the Rings icon already? LotR kicks Star Wars ass!" etc...

    5. Re:Meta comment by pioneer · · Score: 1

      > * How dare they call it The Two Towers after 9-11.

      i'm guessing your joking because the book was called that a long time before 9-11....

      and... even if you did realise that, there is no point in renaming, readjusting, realigning anything in acknowledgment of the terrorist actions...

      i still like the twin towers... lets not make them go away too soon...

    6. Re:Meta comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah...
      A few months ago I saw a petition on some on-line petition site. It was to change the name because it was CLEARLY named so as to capitalize on 9-11...

      The e-mail address of the person who started the poll was slashdotroll@yahoo.com

      I'm not joking, though the e-mail address might not have been that EXACTLY.

      It had over 1000 signatures :/

    7. Re:Meta comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never mind long before 9/11...how about long before the damn things were even thought of?

    8. Re:Meta comment by prmths · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Stupid apple doesn't port Quicktime to linux."

      maybe not but mplayer CVS plays it :)

      http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/dload.html

    9. Re:Meta comment by prmths · · Score: 1

      bah
      replying to myself again.. but... just remembered... xine also plays sorenson now.. and i've heard they're working on adding it into libavcodec

      http://xine.sourceforge.net/

    10. Re:Meta comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it was klerck you stupid fuckwit

    11. Re:Meta comment by stuartkahler · · Score: 0

      "* How dare they call it The Two Towers after 9-11" Not only was the story named 'The Two Towers' LONG BEFORE the destruction of the World Trade Center, but the naming occured before even the BUILDING of the World Trade Center. It's time to relax your sphincter already.

    12. Re:Meta comment by ScottMaxwell · · Score: 5, Funny
      * How dare they call it The Two Towers after 9-11.


      I thought of a solution to this. Reformulate the movie with Dick van Dyke as a crimefighting doctor, and call it Diagnosis: Mordor.

      Thanks, I'll be here all week. You've been a great audience!
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    13. Re:Meta comment by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      You forgot:

      "This isn't news! I saw the trailer on Kazaa a month ago!"

      and...

      "Why are they posting movie trailers when there's an article on obscuresciencenews.com about a new discovery that means we can build 4% more heat restistant alloys in 40 years."

      :)

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    14. Re:Meta comment by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "It had over 1000 signatures :/"

      Nearly everybody who signed that petition weren't signing to have it changed, rather they were using the comment section to tell the starter that he was an idiot. Heh. It would have been a more amusing read if the petition had been /.'d.

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    15. Re:Meta comment by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      It's a JOKE. There was actually an online petition (at petitiononline.com) to ask Peter Jackson to rename it.

      The guy was immediately pummeled by people calling him an idiot and, in fact, trying to find a link to it, I found dozens of people with anti-renaming petitions.

      Pretty amusing comments - I wish I could find the link for your amusement.

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    16. Re:Meta comment by aiabx · · Score: 2

      Come on. Gandalf's are modems.
      -aiabx

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    17. Re:Meta comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my god man, how do you sleep at night?

      that was really really bad.

      lol nonetheless though :)

    18. Re:Meta comment by br0ck · · Score: 1

      Use the view current signatures link at http://www.petitiononline.com/twotower/. FYI, if you look at the bottom of the page you'll find that the petition was not legit and was posted by a slashdot troll.

    19. Re:Meta comment by __aadhrk6380 · · Score: 1

      You have an incredibly twisted sense of humor. I like that!

    20. Re:Meta comment by laserjet · · Score: 2

      Or how about:

      Diagnosis: Martyr

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    21. Re:Meta comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never mind long before 9/11...how about long before the damn things were even thought of?


      Not really long before.
      Although the Lord of the Rings is a timeless classic its really not all that old. I believe that it was completed in 1955.
      Construction of the WTC was started 13 years later in 1968.
      Both were years in the making, but who's to say which was "thought of" first?

    22. Re:Meta comment by Clue4All · · Score: 1

      The past two releases of Xine support Sorenson and plays this trailer perfectly. I'm impressed, I'd highly recommend it.

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    23. Re:Meta comment by Codifex+Maximus · · Score: 1

      > * This movie is going to rock. I can't wait!
      Of this I have no doubt. The Two Towers should have alot of action! The Riders of Rohan, the Treants, Gollum yes we thinks so yess we do.

      > * Stupid apple doesn't port Quicktime to linux.
      Crossover! I now have Quicktime 5 and Trillian running in Linux just fine. (Gotta get rid of the nag screen though...)

      > * So do we support the MPAA today, or are we against them?
      Uh...

      > * The Matrix Reloaded is going to be much cooler than this one.
      I doubt it. LOTR is timeless; Matrix while cool is trendy (I like the Rage soundtrack though... COME ON!).

      > * How dare they call it The Two Towers after 9-11.
      Bleah...

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    24. Re:Meta comment by ObitMan · · Score: 0

      I'm just wondering if it is the Top Troll of all time?
      Is there a troll hall of fame?
      Klerk won his induction with that one.
      I can see it now... Annual Troll of the Year awards...

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    25. Re:Meta comment by Anarchofascist · · Score: 2

      So do we support the MPAA today, or are we against them?

      This is a re-post from memory. I haven't seen this scam discussed on slashdot recently, but it is a clever hack and it does work -- at least in most MultiHyperMegaPlex theatres:

      Step 1: Rock up to the MegaHyperPlex showing both the film you wish to see AND another small-budget independent film.

      Step 2: Buy your ticket to the small-budget film.

      Step 3: Show your ticket to the bored pimply ticket-inspector who stands at the barrier between the cinemas and the food area. Listen attentively to his instructions and ignore them.

      Step 4: Walk through the doors of the cinema showing the film you really came to see.

      Of course, then the wonderful director and highly paid actors won't get their share of your €6.50 either, so make sure you understand the consequences of your actions.

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    26. Re:Meta comment by airgee · · Score: 1

      Mplayer is faster than Xine on sorenson videos.

    27. Re:Meta comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      * How dare they call it The Two Towers after 9-11.

      I'd be proud of them for not letting the actions of a terrorist influence their thinking.

      Also, it's about time to get OVER it. Some planes crashed, some buildings crumbled. Let's stop feeling sorry for ourselves, let's rip those lame flag stickers off our cars, and realize that there are people out there who are suffering hundreds more times than we are. Our irrational fear of the invisible threat called "terrorism" and our government-fed pseudopatriotism is blinding us to the fact that while we have our backs turned saluting a star and stripe-covered piece of cloth, the U.S. government is taking the opportunity to strip us of our civil liberties and privacy.

  6. Slashdotted... by Zelet · · Score: 1

    That took about a minute and a half.

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    1. Re:Slashdotted... by mithras+the+prophet · · Score: 1

      The third mirror worked great for me: 2 MBit+ speeds, with 39 comments posted.

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  7. While moving through Mordor... by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Frodo: Samwise, what's that out in the distance?

    Sam: I'm not sure, Master Frodo. It looks like a mighty army.

    Frodo: Samwise, why are they all wearing pocket protectors and Palm Pilots?

    Sam: Good Lord, Master Frodo! It's the Slashdot Effect! Run, Master, Run!

    Frodo: No, not the dreaded 404 Errors of Death! Even Sauruman has no defenses against this horrible threat!

    (Soon the sounds of two small hobbits is drowned out by the sounds of a million mice clicking out in terror, then suddenly silenced.)

    1. Re:While moving through Mordor... by neoform · · Score: 1

      wearing pocket protectors and Palm Pilotsyou can wear a palm pilot?

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    2. Re:While moving through Mordor... by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 1

      I do - I have a belt clip. I Harry Potter and Thinking in Java in there, and I am never bored.

    3. Re:While moving through Mordor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      jesus, some of the overweight nerds at this site could wear 20 palm pilots...

    4. Re:While moving through Mordor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably because you are easily amused.
      Harry Potter indeed!

    5. Re:While moving through Mordor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what a total dork you are.

    6. Re:While moving through Mordor... by Skevin · · Score: 2

      In another scene...

      Saruman [to a /. reader]: do you know where geeks come from? They were once human, but captured on the battlefield [playground] and forced into Torture Camps [enrolled them into school] where our Dark Lord [the Establishment] worked his sinister magick [Varsity Hubris and Bullying] on them, twisting them into their current hideous forms [showed them Slashdot]. But you my Uruk-ha^H^H^H^H^H^Hber-Geek, you were made to withstand the light of the sun, to not cringe in horror at the sound of a football game, and possibly get laid! So gather up your arms, and go destroy our enemies!

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    7. Re:While moving through Mordor... by goodEvans · · Score: 1

      Ya. Think fig leaf. On CowboyNeal...

  8. Slashdot Effect by LeiraHoward · · Score: 1
    I'm in the middle of downloading the teaser + "bootleg" copy now. Anyone have any bets as to how long it will take for
    (1) the page to be slashdotted, or
    (2) for the page to have to get rid of the "bootleg" copy? (Or by some weird chance, might that "bootleg" copy be legal?)

    I'm just hoping the page stays up long enough for my downloads to finish. Knowing the notorious /. effect, I wouldn't be surprised if I got up to 97% complete and then had their server lock up....

  9. I don't know about you by Torgo's+Pizza · · Score: 1

    But I'm glad people are starting to talk about *these* two towers instead of those other two. I'm ready for some good escapism.

  10. Ka-boom! by Darth_brooks · · Score: 3, Funny
    (in his best winston churchill voice)


    Never in the course of human history have so few been so slashdotted by so many.

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  11. Lucky to get a DVD of first part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm really glad that I got a DVD of LOTR as far back as in January. I must have watched it 5-6 times and every time it is more enjoyable.

    1. Re:Lucky to get a DVD of first part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm really glad that I got a DVD of LOTR as far back as in January."

      Haha, that's when I got it too. It's really kind of sad. If the movie industry would have come to their senses and started releasing DVDs in a timely fashion this is a DVD I surely would have bought. However, their greed in forcing me to rewatch the movie in some overpriced theater that smells like piss has led them to in fact lose money, since I decided to simply pirate the DVD.

      So, this says something to all the dumbasses out there who feel sorry for the MPAA in their fight against piracy. The movie industry is obviously not trying to fix the situation themselves, no matter how much they say that they are. If they were, they would adapt to the current marketplace and start releasing DVDs in a timely fashion. Their greed and lack of evolution is what is in fact "killing them" (although quite frankly I don't think piracy is affecting them too much).

    2. Re:Lucky to get a DVD of first part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm really glad that I got a DVD of LOTR as far back as in January.

      Haha, that's when I got it too. It's really kind of sad.

      You guys mean "VCD/DIVX of a shitty camcorder recording of a movie screen", which is actually different from a DVD. It's good enough for retarted 13 year old basement shut-ins, I guess.

    3. Re:Lucky to get a DVD of first part by devnullify · · Score: 0, Troll

      I've got a high quality SVCD DVD RIP on 4CDS. It looks nearly as good as the DVD would if it was released.

    4. Re:Lucky to get a DVD of first part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well not exactly... Well not even remotely.

      The rip I found in late December was from a DVD sent to the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences members (for the Oscar voting). It was burnable to either DVD-RAM or SVCD (as four disks). So it was DVD quality in both picture and sound. You really need some better quality sites for your rips.

    5. Re:Lucky to get a DVD of first part by calbanese · · Score: 1

      There is also a (real) DVD floating around. Not that I have it and already watched it 4 times in the past 2 weeks. DVD-R burners are great. And just so no one freaks out, yes I am planning on buying it (the SE version, of course) when it comes out.

  12. *checks his calendar* by InnereNacht · · Score: 1

    Hrm. I thought most people already had the pirated version of this trailer, oh, 3 months ago?

    1. Re:*checks his calendar* by JEDi_ERiAN · · Score: 1

      yeah, same here. one was running at the end of FOTR back in march (4 minute trailer, IIRC). I can't tell if this is the same one, as the site's been /.'ed

      E.

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    2. Re:*checks his calendar* by Flamerule · · Score: 1
      I got a look at it from the French site; I also have the preview from March on my computer. The new teaser has a lot of footage from the preview, but maybe 1/3 of it is new -- most notably Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli's first meeting with Gandalf the White.

      This teaser is an actual trailer, too. The preview was badass, but it wasn't really cut in a meaningful way, just a bunch of cool shots from the movie. This one seems pretty well done -- plus, it's designed to be seen on computer screens everywhere. The preview was a bootleg shot from someone's camcorder in the theater, then converted to format x.

    3. Re:*checks his calendar* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, you think that's good? I had a teaser trailer of the movie several years ago!

      There were some changes that took place, most noteably the director, the star actors, the supporting actors, the locations, the production company, and... well okay it was my own home movies. And they weren't even LotR themed, they were movies of a local soccer game. Okay, it was photographs of the game. Well, I went to the game. Fine, I heard about the game and that's the truth.

      There was no game! I'm so ashamed. I've never even seen soccer played.

  13. Great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now I need to clean off my keyboard. Anyone have a towel?

  14. xine/mplayer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Wow you people sure love paying for shitty plugins.
    (%:~)- mplayer deux_tours_teaser.mov
    MPlayer CVS-020623-20:16-2.95.4 (C) 2000-2002 Arpad Gereoffy (see DOCS!)

    ...
    Playing deux_tours_teaser.mov
    Cache fill: 0.00% (0 bytes) Detected QuickTime/MOV file format!
    Compressed header uses zlib algo!
    Compressed header size: 7955 / 16332
    --------------
    MOV track #0: 485 chunks, 1835 samples
    Image size: 240 x 180 (24 bpp)
    Display size: 240 x 180
    Fourcc: SVQ1 Codec: 'Sorenson Video'
    --------------
    MOV track #1: 249 chunks, 0 samples
    Audio bits: 16 chans: 1 rate: 22050
    Fourcc: ima4
    --------------
    Detected audio codec: [imaadpcm] afm:16 (IMA ADPCM)
    Opening audio decoder: [imaadpcm] IMA ADPCM audio decoder

  15. That Title Tells That They Troll, True? by SpanishInquisition · · Score: 0

    Tada

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  16. interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't watch it, but mplayer can decode the audio..

    1. Re:interesting... by Sir+Joltalot · · Score: 1

      Ok the mplayer people and the xine people need to get together here because the video is working in xine 0.9.11a

      Just smack the two together and we'd have a perfectly good native Linux QuickTime player...

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  17. No, it's still up.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. so far

  18. Glad they explain... by mithras+the+prophet · · Score: 1

    ... what the "two towers" are (two different towers in different places, each ruled by evil men). I imagine they did that to try to dampen the association with the "twin towers".

    The association is nonetheless unavoidable, but perhaps welcome. Aside from being a rocking good movie, I think LoTR's portrayal of a great evil in the land, and a heroic quest to save the innocents, played a big part in its success.

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    1. Re:Glad they explain... by meringuoid · · Score: 1

      You could interpret it the other way. The two towers in question could be Barad-dur and Orthanc, or they could be Minas Tirith and Minas Ithil^WMorgul.

      The events of the book centre largely on Orthanc, with Barad-dur and Minas Tirith playing supporting roles as places in the far background that matter occasionally. It would probably have to be Orthanc / Barad-dur, simply because of the heavy Saruman emphasis (and the fact that the other two don't really come into play much till RotK), but I think the contrast between Tirith and Morgul is not to be ignored; they were, after all, once twin cities.

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    2. Re:Glad they explain... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the record, Tolkien detested the "Two Towers" title, and fought against his six-part book being released in three volumes, but hey, he was a poor college professor and ultimately went along with what the publishers wanted.

  19. Mirror by silhouette · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since it looks like it's going to be a while before anyone can access the file, I've put up a copy on my local server.

    Enjoy!

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    1. Re:Mirror by Ferrum · · Score: 1

      Thanks!

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    2. Re:Mirror by thefirelane · · Score: 1

      >Since it looks like it's going to be a while
      >before anyone can access the file, I've put up a
      >copy on my local server. [127.0.0.1]
      >
      >Enjoy!

      hmmmm,
      I don't seem to be able to reach your server. Don't worry though, I have a feeling the problem is on my end with a firewall or something. The problem should be fixed soon, as myself and several co-workers have sent angry e-mails to our sysadmin about not being able to access 127.0.0.1



      ---Lane

    3. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right. There's nothing but pR0n on your server. And all stuff I've seen before.

    4. Re:Mirror by SHEENmaster · · Score: 1

      I have "url spoilers" turned off, so I actually fell for your joke. That is on localhost.

      I have put a working mirror up on my 100mb/s file server. Here it is.

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    5. Re:Mirror by Dystopium · · Score: 1

      The Mirror for the bootleg has come online

    6. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check those URLs! Don't forget the http://!

      Working links: http and FTP. You're welcome.

  20. KLERCK! by RatBastard · · Score: 0, Troll

    It looks like they ignored your pettition! HAR-HAR!

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  21. i dont get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I saw the trailer at a LOTR show at a dollar theatre in Tulsa.....so what's the big deal about it? What was interesting is that it was really a trailer, it came at the end of the movie, after credits.

  22. Quicktime.. by Junta · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    While the technology may be good in and of itself, the only player capable of playing back current files royally, *ROYALLY* sucks. I hate QuickTime player with a passion, even real has a better player design, even though their core technology sucks.

    Anyway, you don't have to pay money just to play QuickTime under Linux using Apple's crappy player, wine supports everything from the installer to player itself just fine without commercial enhancements, though without browser enhancements. To avoid having the screen blacked over while using QuickTime, select "n" instead of native or builtin for "ddraw" in the wine config file.
    While I realize being this cheap may not be good for codeweavers, I think its important that people realize that playing back QuickTime files (free under windows), does not require money under Linux. Codeweaver's offers good browser integration and a viable platform for Office to run on, but they are not a requirement for running Apple's quicktime player decently.

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    1. Re:Quicktime.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Latest Xine can play some Sorenson QT files (Qt4/SVR1; may be worth a try; don't know whether the trailer uses that format or the newer SVR3

    2. Re:Quicktime.. by neoform · · Score: 1

      even real has a better player design

      Uhh yeah that's it, real is a better player then quicktime.. why? Hmmm Because it needs to be upgraded everytime i go to use it, because it has about 15 million banners and buttons all over it's interface, because it's video and audio quality is far superior to even the best media players out there!

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    3. Re:Quicktime.. by emissary47 · · Score: 1

      i'm using Xine 0.9.12 and the trailer play's fine.

    4. Re:Quicktime.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Because it needs to be upgraded everytime i go to use it, because it has about 15 million banners"

      So... what's the difference between it and quicktime? Quicktime under Windows has much of the exact same bullshit.

    5. Re:Quicktime.. by Junta · · Score: 2

      When I run RealOne under linux or Windows now I never see a banner and there aren't many buttons. Video and Audio quality suck big time, but that isn't player design but rather core technology issues. Real8 Really sucked under windows (even after disabling all the cruft, the seekbar was a tiny little thing), but at least they had some decent keyboard controls and the option of fullscreen playback.

      Offtopic question, is there any decent Windows video player out there with decent keyboard controls? WMP is neat, but doesn't have keyboard controls for things like rewind.
      It's like they all assume everyone just wants to use a mouse...

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    6. Re:Quicktime.. by Junta · · Score: 2

      Evidently they do use codecs decipherable by Xine, cool. I would have suspected the newer codec or an off the wall audio codec, but they have something that works with Xine... Cool.

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    7. Re:Quicktime.. by omidk · · Score: 0

      try zoomplayer.....its the best by far.

    8. Re:Quicktime.. by dattaway · · Score: 2

      It took a lot of effort on my part to play this trailer with gentoo as I had to take the time to type in these two commands...

      emerge xine

      xine LotR-TwoTowers-Teaser.mov

      Nice movie!

    9. Re:Quicktime.. by noda132 · · Score: 1

      At least it'll play fullscreen.

      First time I saw a quicktime movie in fullscreen was through xine.

    10. Re:Quicktime.. by roju · · Score: 1

      lol, I posted over at k5 about this a while back

      http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/6/12/23114 5/ 408/69#69

    11. Re:Quicktime.. by knitfoo · · Score: 1
      I would like to point out that the reason the QuickTime player works well in Wine is because of all of the hard work we have put into (and returned to) Wine.

      It's just like PBS. You can choose to support us, and get a nice souvenir plugin viewer for doing The Right Thing(TM), or you can choose to not support us. But if you do that, we're going to switch to all infomercials, all the time... (grin)

      Cheers,
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      CEO
      CodeWeavers

    12. Re:Quicktime.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you rely on end user pity for a steady flow of income, you are doomed. If, on the other hand, you make your player KICK ASS easy to use and KICK ASS fast and useful, then you won't have a thing to worry about. Let the cheap people waste their days compiling WINE to install and run QT.

    13. Re:Quicktime.. by hype7 · · Score: 1
      While the technology may be good in and of itself, the only player capable of playing back current files royally, *ROYALLY* sucks. I hate QuickTime player with a passion, even real has a better player design, even though their core technology sucks.


      yeah, well if you think Real is better than QT you don't know your mothers tit from her ass. The QT codecs and application design in QT are vastly superior to that of Real - Real is clogged with buttons that do god knows what. QT, everything is self explanatory.

      QT is using an industry standard codec for v6 - MPEG4, adopted by a number of different vendors in opposition to MS.

      Now, while Apple may not bother to release QT for Linux, it doesn't mean QT is shit. Apple, unlike MS, does not have unlimited resources. Linux's strength is in the corporate arena (rolling out thousands of free OS installations that are easily customisable and securable) and possibly in the server market for people who want a server put together quickly, cheaply. So Apple choose to ignore that OS, because by and large (with the exception of all the /. nerds) it doesn't align with their target customers. I think it's sensible business.

      Their sensible business does not detract from the fact that QT6 is the best player with the best codec and the best server technology on the market.

      -- james
    14. Re:Quicktime.. by Junta · · Score: 2

      I was not saying the core tecnology, the media format and codecs themselves weren't crap, but I was saying the interface design is better. Sure, the defaults throw a lot of advertising at you in real, but you can disable those, and under Windows with Real 8 the seekbar is too small, but with Real 8 under Linux and RealOne under both platforms, the seek thing is fixed, and especially the linux versions don't bother ever throwing in ads. But my complaint is for one, QuickTime refuses to do fullscreen. Additionally, QuickTime has *NO* keyboard controls, mouse only, while Real's shortcuts are sparse and clumsy, at least they exist. These two tie together into the philosophy behind the UI design, that the user is too stupid to use anything but the mouse and that controls can never be allowed to be hidden and must always appear in the same context no matter how the viewer views the movie. While this fits well with Apple's overall good UI design principles (except the lack of keyboard control), it does not befit a media player. If I want to watch and fully appreciate a video, I don't want anything else on the screen detracting from the experience. At the very least I would want all other applications hidden and the on screen controls smaller and unobtrusive (WMP comes close in the XP version, but too obtrusive). My preference is of course full screen with only keyboard control. Real's player sucks, but not as much as QuickTime player. WMP is better than both in terms of interface, but Xine has all beat in terms of interface from the flexibility and keyboard controls.

      Whether or not it is available under Linux is not the point, Real's linux versions are bastard children that are horribly broken and hidden from view, that's not much better than QuickTime's support. The point is that the people at apple need to get their heads out of their asses and realize that media playback is different from other applications and do something different besides giving it a neato-skin and further messing it up by making it act like a handheld device rather than a computer application (i.e. the Volume control in QuicTime 4 which was fixed in 5)

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    15. Re:Quicktime.. by hype7 · · Score: 1
      But my complaint is for one, QuickTime refuses to do fullscreen.


      Don't know about yours, but my version does - Movie menu, Full Screen.

      Additionally, QuickTime has *NO* keyboard controls, mouse only,


      Don't know about yours, but my version does - space to play pause, command up/down to change volume, arrow keys to step

      These two tie together into the philosophy behind the UI design, that the user is too stupid to use anything but the mouse and that controls can never be allowed to be hidden and must always appear in the same context no matter how the viewer views the movie.


      sorry, but that simply is not true. If you really want me to, I can take a picture of a full screen trailer I've got sitting here on my HD.

      If I want to watch and fully appreciate a video, I don't want anything else on the screen detracting from the experience. At the very least I would want all other applications hidden and the on screen controls smaller and unobtrusive (WMP comes close in the XP version, but too obtrusive).


      I'm more inclined to believe that MS is screwing around with the APIs so that QT and Real can't get hold of what they need, as opposed to Apple not trying. I know Apple's UI design is excellent, and on my computer it's doing exactly what you're describing.


      My preference is of course full screen with only keyboard control. Real's player sucks, but not as much as QuickTime player. WMP is better than both in terms of interface, but Xine has all beat in terms of interface from the flexibility and keyboard controls.


      I cannot comment on Xine, have not used it. In no way shape or form would I agree with your comment about WMP or Real being better than QT. QT has by far the more intuitive interface, that looks better, it has a better set of codecs, and it is way more flexible. Which is why it's included not only on web movies/previews, but also on AudioCD extras.

      The point is that the people at apple need to get their heads out of their asses and realize that media playback is different from other applications and do something different besides giving it a neato-skin and further messing it up by making it act like a handheld device rather than a computer application (i.e. the Volume control in QuicTime 4 which was fixed in 5)


      I think Apple would know a thing or two about media playback on computers. They created it.

      And they will redefine it again with MPEG 4, whether you like it or not.

      -- james
  23. I wonder.. by ivan256 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder if they're going to keep the format similar to the book, which was originally supposed to be two seperate volumes. Will they tell one group's story in the first half of the movie, and then ditch those characters for the rest of the film and concentrate on Frodo and Sam? Or will they they and cut back and forth between the two plot lines?

    I hope they keep like the book, but I can understand how some of the bigger name acting in the film might be upset to know they're only in the first half of the movie.

    1. Re:I wonder.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Since we saw that they were not 100% true to the book in the first episode (Tom who?) they will probably resequence things a bit to make the movie more watchable. I prefer this since a three hour movie is a different experience than a 400 page book, and each should be done properly according to the merits of their respective formats.

    2. Re:I wonder.. by furiousgeorge · · Score: 4, Informative

      Jackson has already commented that he's moving some stuff between books for pacing and other issues. E.g. Shelob will not be in TT, but in the last picture.

    3. Re:I wonder.. by Atlantix · · Score: 1

      I don't have a convenient link to a good interview but I remember reading somewhere that they merged the two halves of the Two Towers so that both stories progress chronologically. And as another poster noted, some changes were made to where this movie ends (shelob in the third movie).

      --Atlantix2000

    4. Re:I wonder.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The movie will move chronologically, flipping back and forth between the action of "book 3" (the battle with Saruman) and "book 4" (Frodo and Sam's progress toward Mordor). My sense is that they will end the movie with the conclusion of book 3, and stop book 4 at that point...which explains why Shelob is slated for the next movie: F & S had not encountered her by the time of the events at Orthanc that end book 3.

    5. Re:I wonder.. by dswensen · · Score: 2

      I think that to assemble the movie like that would be pretty poor filmmaking. I can think of a lot of things in Lord of the Rings that I consider important to preserve, but that is not one of them. The story will be the same either way.

    6. Re:I wonder.. by Gumshoe · · Score: 2

      I wonder if they're going to keep the format similar to the book

      I hope not. The BBC radio plays were scripted so that the two threads intermingled. It worked quite nicely I thought.

      By and large I don't like films that deviate from the books they're based on (after all, what's the point in making the film if you're going to throw away those bits of the book that drew you to it in the first place) but I understand the need to make alterations for cinematic purposes. That is, narrative techniques that work in literature don't necessarily work in cinema. The episodic nature of Two Towers is a perfect example of this I think.

    7. Re:I wonder.. by colmore · · Score: 2

      I have to completely disagree with you. What's the point of making a movie if you're going to leave it exactly the same as the book? That can only make a bad movie, since if it was a good book, then the story, as originally told, works best in book form.

      The best book movies are either based off of crappy books (any Michael Chriton, Phil Dick, Tom Clancy movie) that were written by authors who may as well have been screenwritiers, or the director took significant liberties with the source material (any Kubrick)

      A movie that takes a good book and changes nothing won't be a good movie, it will just be an aid for people with numb imaginations.

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    8. Re:I wonder.. by pmc · · Score: 2

      Damn - I remember people moaning about the first ening being a cliff-hanger. Can you imagine how upset they'd be if the film for the Two Towers finished in the same place as the book?

    9. Re:I wonder.. by ivan256 · · Score: 2

      That's too bad. It would have been a great ending for the second movie to think that Frodo had been killed, just as it was a great ending from the second book. I guess that since I know how it turns out already it's not that big a deal to me though.

    10. Re:I wonder.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder when nerds will learn to spell "separate"...

    11. Re:I wonder.. by GoodbyeBlueSky1 · · Score: 1

      Interesting point, and I agree for the most part, but go read Irvine Welsh's Trainspotting and see Danny Boyle's almost ridiculously faithful film adaptation. The two are strikingly similar in so many ways, yet both are great pieces of entertainment. (see also kesey's/forman's cuckoo's nest). Good books don't have to turn into crappy movies, it just so happens that a good 90% of Hollywood movies suck ass, and a significant portion of those happen to be based on books.

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    12. Re:I wonder.. by ichimunki · · Score: 1

      While I disagree that Philip K. Dick's books are crappy and that the resulting movies were the "best", there is an interesting article on this topic on SFGate today.

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    13. Re:I wonder.. by colmore · · Score: 2

      i'm no Dick fan (heheheh) but yeah, most of the movies haven't been that good, Bladerunner was really all I was thinking of.

      Though I'd say A.I. was the Dick only movie that was actually worse than the source. man i wish Kubrick had stayed alive for that one. though i guess he lost his marbles sometime between Full Metal Jacket and Eyes Wide Shut.

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    14. Re:I wonder.. by nobody69 · · Score: 2

      Iirc, AI was based on a Brian Aldiss short story named 'Supertoys Last All Summer Long', not A Dick story.

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    15. Re:I wonder.. by furiousgeorge · · Score: 2

      >>That's too bad. It would have been a great
      >>ending for the second movie to think that Frodo >>had been killed,

      Jacksons whole argument was that if he left Shelob in TTowers, that doesn't leave much for sam and frodo to do in the final movie except for the conclusion. He's just trying to juggle things to even out the allocation of labor among the characters :)

    16. Re:I wonder.. by Gumshoe · · Score: 2

      I have to completely disagree with you

      I've read an understood your reply but I don't think you completely disagree with me. Notice how I acknowledge that a screenplay needs to be adapted (for narrative reasons) from the source material.

      To clarify, I suppose I was lamenting those films that alter the original source to such an extent that the original point of the story is completely lost. For example, the film adaptataion of the Asimov story, The Bicentennial Man, is so completely wide of the mark it may well have been called "Yet another lacklustre attempt at a mainstream science fiction movie". In that specific case it hardly seems worth the effort of licencing the rights to the original work.

      An opposite example would be Lermann's adaptation of Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet. While it is superficially not in the spirit of Shakespeare's work at all, the central point of the story has not been lost.

      A movie that takes a good book and changes nothing won't be a good movie, it will just be an aid for people with numb imaginations.

      Fair comment. But I have to ask: why bother making a film of a book if you're going to change it? Why not just make a film in the vain of the book in question? A case of milking the cash cow I suppose (*). Moreover, if a film maker is inspired by a particular book, how does he know that during adaptation he isn't removing those very elements that made the book special and inspired him in the first place?



      * Contentious point: Would FOTR have been as successful if it wasn't associated with Tolkien? If Jackson had a generic Fantasy movie would it be as well thought of as the film he did make? Personally, I suspect not.

    17. Re:I wonder.. by zerocool^ · · Score: 2

      They have also fallen victim to another great Tolkien blunder:

      The Two Towers are Orthanc and Minas Morgul.

      The Two Towers are NOT (as they appear to have been noted in the "bootleg" trailer) Orthanc and Barad-dur. Gandalf says "There is a union now between the two towers: Orthanc and Barad-dur."

      Tolkien named the 2nd volume of his 6 book tale "The Two Towers" because the events which take place in that volume deal largely with Orthanc and Minas Morgul.

      The fact that tolkien was pissed that it was split into three volumes and subsequently called a trilogy is another story.

      ~Will

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    18. Re:I wonder.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He already moved some stuff from the Two Towers to The Fellowship of the Ring.

    19. Re:I wonder.. by kubrick · · Score: 2

      The best book movies are either based off of crappy books... Phil Dick...

      Have you *read* any of PKD's work?

      All of the movies based on his books are nothing like the original works, taking only plot outlines and character names. Saying that Dick "may as well have been a screenwriter" is a massive slight on the great work that he did produce, especially during the last ten years or so of his life.

      It'd be good to see a decent film version of something like A Scanner Darkly, a book without much action and which it would be difficult to convert to film without staying relatively faithful to the plot and the tone of the original novel.

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    20. Re:I wonder.. by ObitMan · · Score: 1

      Oh hell he should film the appendices which take up the latter third of ROTK, that will lengthen the movie a bit...

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    21. Re:I wonder.. by hype7 · · Score: 1

      Kubrick never had any marbles to lose in the first place. I've watched 2001 and I'm not going to waste my time with any more of his muck.

      I don't care what people say or how many people say, the guy's a nutjob. Apes + psychedelic colours + a baby in a bubble in staring at the earth does not a movie make.

      Certainly not a genius. Maybe a comic genius. Not any other sort.

      -- james

    22. Re:I wonder.. by Lord+Azrael · · Score: 1

      He already moved some stuff from the Two Towers to The Fellowship of the Ring.

      ... well, i think the ending of the first movie was really ok, it was not bad for the story that they included a few pages from the second book into the first episode.

      they made a good job. but i really also do not like that they already showed the thing about the "white man in the forest", it's too logical for the folks out there who this is....

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  24. warning - troll movie! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    don't follow that link! That movie is disgusting!

  25. Already shown in theatres by Jeremiah+Blatz · · Score: 1

    This appears to be the version that was shown in theaters on March 29.

    1. Re:Already shown in theatres by Flamerule · · Score: 1

      Not true. See my above comment. This teaser has some footage from the 3/29 preview, and some completely new footage.

  26. how about a nice non-quicktime mirror? by DMaster0 · · Score: 1

    cause we all know that quicktime sucks, only seconded by the crap that is Real Player and it's craptastic video formats.

  27. Umm.... by Creedo · · Score: 1

    Try gnutella.

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  28. Mirror by Dystopium · · Score: 1

    I have placed a mirror with both trailers on it. It will be up for a short while.

    Movie Trailer

    Bootleg Trailer( Will be up in a few.)

  29. so? by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It was at the end of LorR:FotR, so I got to see it on the big screen, why would I want to download it and watch a low quality version on my computer? Or is it just a slow news day?

    1. Re:so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "low quality version on my computer"

      If it's low quality maybe you should upgrade your computer. I would take my 5.1 sound, DVD+ quality experience over a crapass theater anyday.

  30. Direct Links by JoshuaDFranklin · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Direct Links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the "bootleg" is some 20mb .. these are all the official trailers

  31. Really, by labratuk · · Score: 0

    I'm surprised I haven't heard any talk of them changing the name. I would have thought this were a given, knowing U.S. political correctness.

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    1. Re:Really, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once again mindless bashing of a non-existant political correctness movement. This has nothing at all to do with political correctness, nothing at all.

    2. Re:Really, by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2
      "I'm surprised I haven't heard any talk of them changing the name. I would have thought this were a given, knowing U.S. political correctness."

      There was actually a troll who started a petition to change the name. And there was even an anti-petition petition asking them to keep the name. This thing has been done.

    3. Re:Really, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The whole movie is politically incorrect.
      All human and elf settlements clearly lack diversity. The schools are not integrated and orcs are not bussed in from the Misty Mountains.
      Also, the battle scenes clearly demonstrate lack of tolerance on part of humans and elfs toward the goblins and their culture and way of life.

    4. Re:Really, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha. Nicely written.

    5. Re:Really, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..and then there was a petition to end all petitions and then an anti-petition to keep em all...and then..

      im done

    6. Re:Really, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the things I noted when I saw the movie was that Jackson was courageous enough to maintain the look of the story as written 65 years ago by an elderly Englishman. In other words, not a black hobbit to be seen. Of course, Tolkien wasn't being intentionally exclusionary, it just never occured to him that "diversity" was required in his story. I wondered if Jackson would fudge it and throw in a few black hobbits, maybe a few black Breefolk, but no, he stuck the text.
      I was braced for comments in the press about it, but I guess the damn thing was so good, nobody was picking at that stuff. Whoopie Goldberg actually made the first comment I was aware of, at the Oscars--something about "blobbits." The black actors in the audience (and remember that was a night of high importance for black actors) all seemed to find her joke funny and didn't look grim-faced, so maybe they aren't too mad in Hollywood about it.
      I wonder if there'll be a few urban types in Minas Tirith when we get to the third book? I think he could justify it...Umbar's not that far away, and one would assume SOME migration might have occured over thousands of years....

  32. ... lions and tigers by llamalicious · · Score: 2

    action and burning and orcs, Oh My!
    Yep, looking good. I wonder what details from the book were changed for the screenplay this time around.
    And have they done as good a job not letting that destroy the flic?

  33. Pimpin' Gandalf... by Bonker · · Score: 4, Troll

    Okay, I *know* that everyone who's read LOTR *knows* Gandalf comes back as Gandalf the White and kicks some big-time ass. Those who *didn't* read and had the LOTR movie as their first and only exposure to Tolkein didn't!

    My wife asked me, at the end of LOTR, "He's not really dead is he?"

    "Of course he's dead, dear," I replied. "Didn't you see that great big pit he fell into? Even if he somehow managed to survive the fall, don't you think the Balrog would have survived it too?"

    So here they come and spoil the fuck out of it for the non-readers with the damn trailer. Thanks a whole fucking lot, Peter Jackson.

    (Seriously, looks like PJ and the actors have done some world class work here. Can't wait till X-Mas!)

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    1. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by tbmaddux · · Score: 5, Funny
      So, here YOU come and spoil the fuck out of it for the non-trailer viewers with your damn post! ;)

      (can't wait either)

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    2. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by shadow303 · · Score: 1

      Of course, then there are those of us who didn't read it and didn't see the trailer, but found out from your post. Not that I am all that surprised. Everybody talks about how great he was, but from what I saw in the first movie, I wasn't impressed.

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    3. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Horizon_99 · · Score: 1

      You mean Gandalf isn't dead??? Thanks a lot! ;)

    4. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by thaigan · · Score: 1

      You're right, he shouldn't have spoiled it either. As far as how great Gandalf is, you really should do yourself a favor and read the books. The movies are so much better if you do;-)

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    5. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by ocbwilg · · Score: 1, Troll

      So here they come and spoil the fuck out of it for the non-readers with the damn trailer. Thanks a whole fucking lot, Peter Jackson.

      Err...speaking as someone who has not read past FotR and who has not yet seen the trailer for The Two Towers, I have to say that your post was every bit as much a spoiler as the trailer. There were other posts in this thread that stated that there were spoilers in the trailer without spelling out what they were. So I guess to paraphrase:

      Thanks a whole fucking lot, Bonker.

    6. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Moonshadow · · Score: 2

      Gandalf's been Gunmanned...or something like that.

      How about pulling a Lone Gandalf?

    7. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      Actually, Gandalf looks quite different in the scene they showed him in - and it's supposed to make you guess. YOU know the scene in Fanghorn where they meet again. YOU know he comes back as "the white". But NOT everyone does, and even the characters in the book were not certain and though it was Saruman at first.

      Of course, they added the dialog... they should have had Saruman saying something threatening to really throw people.

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    8. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by jd142 · · Score: 2

      Everybody talks about how great he was, but from what I saw in the first movie, I wasn't impressed.



      Yeah, dude was killed by a Balrog. And we all know how powerful they are. Why, they're so powerful they were able to kill Gandalf. And we know that he's so powerful, only a Balrog could kill him.


      Apologies to John Kovalic. Trust me, the original is much funnier.

    9. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Bluesee · · Score: 1

      I remember what my 4-year-old daughter said when we were watching the cartoon (Ralph Bakshi?) version of it, the one that was so overbudget it couldn't be finished (parts couldn't even be inked in toward the end there).

      When Gandalf fell into the abyss with the Balrog she said: "Why can't we have that guy anymore?" Which we all thought was funny... er, at the time... if you were there, you would think so, too... really... eh.

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    10. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by colmore · · Score: 2

      I am, perhaps, the only person in the entire world to disagree with the "read the books" first theory of movies.

      for me a movie is all about "what's going to happen next" (well not always, but for wonderful blockbuster kitch like LoTR, that's the whole point)

      any good book improves upon multiple readings, and offers far more than the plot. knowing the ending rarely spoils any book worth reading, and i don't have that much of a problem forgetting the images of the movie when reading.

      the only time i've ever been "affected" by an alternate form of a book is with the (wonderful) tape of Hitchhikers Guide, with Sir Doug reading. "RESISTANCE IS FUTILE" I can't read that book without imagining his version of every single character's voice.

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    11. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by sean23007 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've never been able to figure out how to respond to that question. A lot of my friends haven't read the books, and they all seem pissed that Gandalf died. They always asked me why Gandalf died, and I tried to avoid the question until one of them became convinced that he survived the fall and asked how he did it. So I told him, but I felt really bad about it. It's a tough life we live, those of us who read...

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    12. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The typical Slashdot reader is assumed to be a different group than the typical trailer watcher. Let me clue you in: if you read Slashdot, you are expected to have read the whole LotR, seen the first three Star Wars movies, and seen every episode of Star Trek, Star trek the Next Generation, and Babylon 5. Expect to get spoiled if you are lacking in these.

    13. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Spyky · · Score: 1

      I just answer that he really did die, because afterwards he comes back as Gandalf the White, not Gandalf the Grey. His character as Gandalf the Gray dies.

      Spyky

    14. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking as somebody who read the Trilogy back in about 1974, and can't understand why ANYBODY wouldn't have already read the books:

      Where the fuck have you been? Watching TeeVee?

      You're spoiling your life.

    15. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by thaigan · · Score: 1

      Yes, I usually have the same mindset. I'd rather see the movie first and then read the book. But in this case, reading the book first is definitely better. Reading the book really allows you to appreciate so much more about the movie.

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    16. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Dimensio · · Score: 1

      Well it was pretty obviously Sir Ian McKellen even without the grey garb. That much was clear to me, and I have poor eyesight.

    17. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by ocbwilg · · Score: 1

      Speaking as somebody who read the Trilogy back in about 1974, and can't understand why ANYBODY wouldn't have already read the books:

      Where the fuck have you been? Watching TeeVee?


      To paraphrase from Joey on "Friends" when Ross asks him why he didn't read Lord of the Rings in high school:

      "I was getting laid in high school."

      Though in my case it was more like getting laid and reading lots of non-fiction. I've perpetually got a stack of unread books in my office about 4 feet high, and the rest of the LotR books are currently in it. But there's plenty of other books that are far more interesting and/or better written than the LotR series. Do I appreciate that Tolkien wrote the books that forever defined the Fantasy genre in books? Yes. Does that mean that I think someone who hasn't read them is some kind of idiot who is spoiling or wasting their life? No.

      My original post was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of Bonker's complaining about the spoiler in the trailer when he did the same thing in his post.

    18. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just say .. he's a wizard - he could survive if he wanted to ..

    19. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by lightcycler · · Score: 1

      Gandalf does die, that's why he comes back as the white. It's all based on nordic/gaelic mythology, so look up the legends there.

    20. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by nailchipper · · Score: 1

      Actually!!!! I am mid-way through the second book now and still on complete shock that Galdalf was dead. i kept denying it and in the book everytime some figure appears and they dont know what it is.. i would (sadly) get excited.. and now.. sigh.. i just look over the trailer quickly and SAW GANDALF!!! i saw GANDALF! and he was IN WHITE! im going to continue reading the book expecting this... there goes my surprise.. im quite disapointed they showed him :o(

      but they. they have to get the geeks who've read the series more often than the bible something to cheer about in the trailer.

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    21. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by nailchipper · · Score: 1

      In response to my own comment.

      who's read the bible? thats not saying much about how often LOTRs is read. oops :o)

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    22. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Geekboy(Wizard) · · Score: 1

      I tell them to read the damn book. They keep pestering, I keep saying "Read the damn book" Eventually (some longer than others) they read the damn book.

    23. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Nept · · Score: 1

      Gandalf did die. PJ didn't really spoil it...

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    24. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by vicviper · · Score: 2

      Obi-Wan pulled this same trick with Luke and you saw what happened to him... Just because someone changes his name, it does not make him a different person. :P

    25. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by esper_child · · Score: 1

      yeah and the lord of the Balrog (gothmog) was killed by an elf (glorfindal?). Does that make elves more powerful than Gandalf? The Silmarillion is a much better read in my opinion, would love to see a movie made of it. PJ should do a movie or set of movies that talks about the rape of the silmarils through to the death of sauron, and maybe cover some of the creation of the world.

      *** Goes off to find his copy of the Silmarillion and a good comfy spot near the fridge

    26. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Buck2 · · Score: 1

      I lost the Twin Towers book at sixth grade camp, dammit.

      Reading LotR during HS is a waste of time. You should be getting laid then, I even have to agree with the Wunder-Friends.

      OTOH, it wasn't a waste of time vs. craft hour ... you missed your opportunity AND YOU'LL NEVER GET IT BACK!

      Oh, and, as a tip, don't quote Friends' writers for something topical to the real world ... it just makes everyone involved look all that much sillier for trying.

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    27. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Buck2 · · Score: 1

      It was funny because your kid was so precocious and yet so obviously naive that she forced you to think in ways that you haven't in a long time.

      Unfortunately, you're trying to explain this to a bunch of sexually frustrated HS students waiting for their pr0n to finish downloading, and like three techies that wonder why the fuck they still come here.

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    28. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF? Sheridan survived Z'Ha'Dum? Even after the whole bit with Kosh telling him, "If you go to Z'Ha'Dum, you will die?" Damn you, J.M.S., damn you to Hell!

    29. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by JimPooley · · Score: 2
      the only time i've ever been "affected" by an alternate form of a book is with the (wonderful) tape of Hitchhikers Guide, with Sir Doug reading. "RESISTANCE IS FUTILE" I can't read that book without imagining his version of every single character's voice.
      I think you'll find that's RESISTANCE IS USELESS.
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    30. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by ObitMan · · Score: 1

      Bah you forgot to add the Simpsons and Monty Python.

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    31. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by ocbwilg · · Score: 1

      Oh, and, as a tip, don't quote Friends' writers for something topical to the real world ... it just makes everyone involved look all that much sillier for trying.

      It was what we like to refer to as "a joke".

    32. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by soboroff · · Score: 2


      Here's a spoiler for you... in the third movie, they destroy the ring.

    33. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by cHALiTO · · Score: 1

      Just say something like what Ian McKellen says.

      something like
      "Gandalf the Grey is no more. He is Dead. Finished. Out."

      This is in fact correct, since he comes back only as Gandalf The White ;)

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    34. Re:Pimpin' Gandalf... by Buck2 · · Score: 1
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  34. Trailer gives away TOO MUCH!!!! by thaigan · · Score: 1

    I saw this trailer last month. They're showing it at the end of FoTR now. I can't believe they're showing as much as they are. They gave away something they never should've. I feel bad for anyone that hasn't read the book and sees the trailer before watching the movie. Actually, I just feel bad for anyone that hasn't read the book;-)

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  35. 6 meg file mirror by Str8Dog · · Score: 1

    check here

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  36. I won't install the QuickTime "virus" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No thanks. The last time I installed it on my Windows box nothing was working correctly.

    1. Re:I won't install the QuickTime "virus" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yah, no shit. It steals file extensions without asking, constantly pops up ads to upgrade, and won't play half the files you throw at it because you're using the shitty "basic" version.

  37. Reading vs. Watching by Zelet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Before I saw the first installment of LoTR, I was in the middle of reading "The Hobbit." After I saw LoTR, I immediately ran out and bought the trilogy and finished it off in a couple of weeks. After reading the books I thought that reading them in advance would ruin the experience of watching the movie (I know... seems backwards).

    But, what actually happened was the fact that I knew what was going on in the trailer and seeing my mind's eye's pictures on the screen was powerful. Very moving - I actually care for and know the characters well enough to have an emotional response to what happens to them on the screen.

    I think it has something to do with the fact that LoTR has stayed very close to the books. I am more excited than ever to see the next installment. I think I will be more impressed as the series goes on. (if that is possible)

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    1. Re:Reading vs. Watching by idfrsr · · Score: 1

      I personnally feel that anyone who doesn't read the books before seeing the movies should have something really *nasty* happen to them when they try and watch it.

      Surely the Book Publishers Association of America has found some anti-pre-movie-watching technology to prevent people from watching the movie prior to buying the book?

      *** GO BPAA ****

      *** SHAMELESS CHANCE TO POKE FUN ALERT ***

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  38. slashdotted.... by room101 · · Score: 5, Funny
    It seems to be slashdotted, here it is:

    ^@^@^_;moov^@^@_3cmov^@^@^@^Ldcomzlib^@^@^_^_cmvd^ @^@?
    ....


    Well, there's the first part anyway, you get the idea.
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    1. Re:slashdotted.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now that's madness! Posting a raw binary to a message board like slashdot.

      Amateurs.

      begin 666 trailer.mov
      HOFPIHEOHFO#(FHIDHUSLKFH#()UE@:PFE_)U #(&RYFE

    2. Re:slashdotted.... by room101 · · Score: 1

      omg. Its been so long, I have forgotten that little bit. Brings back some memories. Very nice.

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  39. not a trailer, its an advertisement... by Ubergrendle · · Score: 1

    ..for Starbucks.

    "Collapse into Cool!"

    (My precious! Me wants it!)

    In a brilliant advertising coup, Starbucks has funded the replacement of The One Ring with a more appropriate object of obsession...the Mochochocofrappalatteeextracaffinated Cooler!

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  40. "Last movie I saw" thread? by zaren · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Same thing here. The last movie I saw was Ocean's 11, and the sound kept cutting out during the big finale. We (myself, my wife, and the rest of the people at that screening) got free tickets, and with any luck, the wife and I will be able to cash them in this weekend when the grandparents come down to see the grandkids :)

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    1. Re:"Last movie I saw" thread? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no flame intended here but soryr to say nobody cares about your plans for the weekend or what your going to do when the grandparents come over... sorry

  41. nice teaser... by bje2 · · Score: 2

    wow, compared to the SW:II "breathing" teaser, this LOTR:TT teaser was chock full of info...not to mention that it gives away the spoiler that Gandalf returns in the second movie...granted that's not a spoiler for me, or for many (who've read the book), but for others it might be....

    all and all though, it looks awesome, and the huge battle scenes look great...as with FOTR which was a much better movie then PM, it already looks like TT will be a better move then AOTC (just from the teaser)...then again, it's kinda like comparing apples to oranges...sure, AOTC had a huge universe to draw from, by TT has a greate piece of literature behind it with a strong story...not just Lucas making it up as he goes a long...(note: that was not a star wars flame...i'm a huge star wars fan)...

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  42. Xine can play it by matusa · · Score: 5, Informative

    You do not need a mac or w9x machine, or a crossover plugin. The work people have done xine which was referred to on slashdot plays this successfully.

    Yes, I'm watching it now.

    1. Re:Xine can play it by Tin+Weasil · · Score: 2

      Oh yeah!
      Running it on Xine 0.9.12 and it looks/sounds great!

    2. Re:Xine can play it by Kaypro · · Score: 2

      Third confirm... very nice... well done Xine devlopers!

    3. Re:Xine can play it by tplayford · · Score: 0

      yup, some here.

      Although there has been some talk by the mplayer developers, the latest CVS can only play the audio.

      Only a matter of time I assume.

    4. Re:Xine can play it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > You do not need a mac or w9x machine, or a crossover plugin. The work people have done xine
      > which was referred to on slashdot plays this successfully.

      That's cool. But unfortunately it will not work with all (most high quality) trailers. QuickTime (in CrossOver Plugin) gives the following info about this trailer:

      * video: Sorenson Video 240x180, 15fps
      * sound: IMA 4.1, Mono, 22.05 kHz, 16bits
      * size: 6.1MB

      That's not the latest Sorenson codec (is that an official trailer? maybe that explains it) which is why it works in Xine. Compare with the information for the Men In Black II trailer:

      * video: Sorenson Video 3, 480x260, 24 fps
      * sound: QDesign Music 2, Stereo, 44.1 kHz, 16bits
      * size: 17MB

      All the high quality trailers I know of use the above codec combination which will not work with Xine.
      CrossOver Plugin and Wine are still useful...

  43. Ents!!! by Dr.+Wang · · Score: 1

    All i have to say is, if they somehow cut out the whole plotline with the Ents, I will be very upset. That was probably the coolest part of that book, an army of tree like people destroying stuff. I want my Ents!!!

    1. Re:Ents!!! by khyron664 · · Score: 2, Informative

      They haven't cut out the Ents. I saw the teaser that was shown at the end of LotR:FotR and it shows an Ent, albeit for about 10 seconds. They are in the movie and from what I saw, they look incredible.

      Khyron
    2. Re:Ents!!! by Heywood+Yabuzof · · Score: 2, Informative


      IMDB LINK

      Seeing as how John Rhys-Davies is credited with playing Gimli and Treebeard, it looks like we will have at least one Ent. ;-)

    3. Re:Ents!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you will follow the "more" link after the synopsis, they spell out Ents explicitly. Yay!

  44. Ents by sehryan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am noticing a lack of Ents in the preview. Does anyone know if the big boys are going to be in the movie?

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    1. Re:Ents by thaigan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you saw the trailer in the movies, you'd notice that there is an Ent in the trailer. It seems the download was a bootleg and the scene where an Ent open's an eye is too dark and too fast to catch. Watch it again and go through it a frame at a time whenever you see a hobbit near a tree.

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    2. Re:Ents by dhovis · · Score: 2

      Checking IMDB shows that John Rhys-Davies is playing both Gimli (the dwarf) and Treebeard (the Ent). I believe I read somewhere that he is only doing the voice of Treebeard.

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    3. Re:Ents by thaigan · · Score: 1

      Yes, I think Treebeard's body will be CGI.

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    4. Re:Ents by Arandir · · Score: 1

      They'll be there. The teaser at the end of the FOTR showed a glimpse of one.

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    5. Re:Ents by dsaljurator · · Score: 1

      they are. There is a brief shot of them in the stuff that the tacked onto the end of FOTW a few months ago. Basically, the shot is merry and pipping climbing a tree looking back over their shoulders, then the tree blinks.

    6. Re:Ents by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      the scene where an Ent open's an eye is too dark and too fast to catch.

      Somehow I can't imagine an Ent opening his eye so... hastily.

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    7. Re:Ents by microTodd · · Score: 1

      Yes...John Rhys-Davies does the voice. He talked about it at DragonCon 2001.

      Also, the teaser trailer at the end of Fellowship showed either Merry or Pippin sitting in a tree when a huge eye opened.

      Can't wait...

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    8. Re:Ents by kavau · · Score: 1

      If you went to see FOTR again in March, you could have seen a three-minute teaser that shows Merry (or was it Pippin? The two are too alike) climbing around on Treebeard's nose. So don't worry - they'll be there.

      How could Jackson have left out my favorite characters anyways?

    9. Re:Ents by OxOx · · Score: 1

      Can you imagine what a pain in the ass it would be to play a non-CGI Ent? MAKEUP!

    10. Re:Ents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you get the extended version of the trailer (shown in theaters after FOTR) you do in fact get to see a quick shot of pippen as he is startled at an eye opening up on the tree he is hugging.
      so, yes the ents are in the story

    11. Re:Ents by thaigan · · Score: 1

      The eye opens slowly, but the trailer is only on it for about 2 seconds.

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    12. Re:Ents by thaigan · · Score: 1

      Me thinks it would be nearly impossible;-)

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    13. Re:Ents by cthlptlk · · Score: 1

      I am noticing a lack of Ents in the preview. Does anyone know if the big boys are going to be in the movie?

      Yes, they will. There was a "secret" preview for TT after the credits of FOTR on one day in March, and it was different from this trailer. There was about a second or two of what I think was probably Treebeard and certainly an Ent or a Huorn.

    14. Re:Ents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah... you'd have to be John Holmes to sport THAT much wood!

    15. Re:Ents by syusuf · · Score: 1

      Au contrare, in the preview, which is the 4.5 minute bit tacked on to the end of the first movie since about March, there is a clear shot of Treebeard (he blinks as one of the hobbits hangs on to him).

      The trailer, which was just released, doesnt have it tho.

      I wonder to what extent the ents will actually feature in the TT movie tho..

    16. Re:Ents by bryanp · · Score: 1

      Go see the trailer being shown at the end of FOTR. They do indeed show ents.

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    17. Re:Ents by AnarchySoftware · · Score: 1

      The trailer tacked onto the end of FOTR shows Merry or Pippen hugging a tree. Look closely and you'll see the tree blink.

  45. *droooool* by zephc · · Score: 2

    *wets pants*
    DAMN that looks badass... why does December have to be so far away! Maybe i can go into cryosleep and have scientists wake me up when the world is a better place (when all 3 movies are out in DVD box set)

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    1. Re:*droooool* by Dyolf+Knip · · Score: 2
      Maybe i can go into cryosleep and have scientists wake me up when all 3 movies are out in DVD box set

      You wouldn't want that, you'd miss the Matrix sequels next summer.

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  46. One Ring by ThereIsNoSporkNeo · · Score: 1

    One Ring to Rule Them All
    One Ring to Find Them
    One Movie to bring them all
    And to their seats Bind them

    ... it needs something about the producers hauling away bags of cash... but that's more in the vein of 'The Hobbit' then the LOTR Trilogy.

    Here's hoping they stick to the book's storyplot.

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  47. Hooom. by Rupert · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't be hasty. You can't decide anything in three minutes. Or three hours come to that.

    Oh, and TheLordOfTheRingsColonTheTwoTowers is too short to be its right name.

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    1. Re:Hooom. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fucking hilarious! (No sarcasm intended)

    2. Re:Hooom. by DFossmeister · · Score: 1

      Is it just me or has anyone else thought about the comparison/contrast with the gnomes of Krynn?

      Krynnish gnomes have names long enough to bore an Ent, but the gnomes speak way, way fast.

      The Krynnish gnomes take as long as Ents to decide anything, but that's because of the committees.

      DFossMeister

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    3. Re:Hooom. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, how's that free time coming along? ;)

  48. Re:Mirror - NOT ANY MORE by gruntvald · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hacked into your site (I got the root password right at first guess!!!) and did an rm -Rf /

    What a freakin' mor ----KERNEL PANIC----

  49. FAST MIRROR HERE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.thinknerd.de/modules.php?op=modload&nam e=News&file=article&sid=135&mode=thread&order=0&th old=0

  50. SLASHDOTTED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dammit! Do NO servers stand up to the demand?

  51. YOU DICK! by GePS · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn you! That's my machine! Now I'm gonna get slashdotted!

  52. 9/11 get over it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Write "Lord of the Rings". Not "Two Towers". You say two towers and my mind instantly replays 9/11 for me.

    So what? Get a grip. The Book has been since the fifties. Peter Jackson said he won't change it. I agree.

    1. Re:9/11 get over it by gfreeman · · Score: 1

      You say two towers and my mind instantly replays 9/11 for me

      Your problem, not mine. Say "Twin towers" and I agree, but "Two towers" will always be LOTR for me.

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    2. Re:9/11 get over it by THX1138 · · Score: 1

      Shit, it was NINE MONTHS ago! Give it a rest!

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  53. Spoilers - The trailer gives it away! by Quadell · · Score: 1

    Okay, Spoiler warning.

    My wife is currently reading each book before its movie is released. She has never read them before, and doesn't know any of the plot twists, so she's asked all her friends not to give away any spoilers. After seeing Fellowship, she was lamenting Gandalf's demise when someone had to spill the beans. Since then, it's happened so often that it's become a running joke to see how many inconsiderate people mention Gandalf's return - arguably the most important surprise in the books - to those who don't yet know.

    And now it's in the figgin' trailer! Sheesh.

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    1. Re:Spoilers - The trailer gives it away! by thaigan · · Score: 1

      And, of course, your post gives it way. I've read them all, but there's probably many /.ers that haven't. You should only mention that something crucial was given away;-)

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    2. Re:Spoilers - The trailer gives it away! by fizban · · Score: 1

      1) If there are any ./ers who haven't read these books, they should be officially stripped of their geek status.
      2) If they don't understand your sig (42), they should also be stripped of their status. ;-)

      I think we're pretty safe talking about plot twists and spoilers in the books here. :-)

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    3. Re:Spoilers - The trailer gives it away! by colmore · · Score: 2

      in defense of the spoilers out there, I would say this:

      anyone who doesn't want secrets revealed should avoid downloading pirated trailers, and entering online discussion forums about the upcoming movie.

      if you're reading this message, you can't want to avoid spoilage that much.

      oh and...

      THE ONE RING IS A SLED!!!

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    4. Re:Spoilers - The trailer gives it away! by JabberWokky · · Score: 2
      THE ONE RING IS A SLED!!!

      A sled made out of people.

      BTW - I fear no LotR spoilers - I used to take notes in Tengwar back in college. But I had to leave the quite excellent alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer due to spoilers. I could have complained and flamed people, but, hell... it wouldn't have solved anything. If you want to be spoiler free, don't discuss it in public, in real life or online (close friends who know you're very anti-spoiler exempted).

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    5. Re:Spoilers - The trailer gives it away! by magister707 · · Score: 0

      THE ONE RING IS A SLED!!!

      A sled made out of people.


      And one of them is Luke's father!

    6. Re:Spoilers - The trailer gives it away! by colmore · · Score: 2

      Gandalf and Tyler are the SAME DUDE!!!!

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    7. Re:Spoilers - The trailer gives it away! by Boronx · · Score: 1
      THE ONE RING IS A SLED!!!

      A sled made out of people.

      And one of them is Luke's father!

      Gandalf and Tyler are the SAME DUDE!!!!

      And his home town is really a GIANT TV SET!!!

      And those MANIACS, they BLEW IT ALL UP!!!

      But in the end he gets arrested for MURDERING an HISTORIAN!

      Except that he's really been dead the ENTIRE MOVIE!!!

    8. Re:Spoilers - The trailer gives it away! by Quadell · · Score: 1
      > And, of course, your post gives it way.
      > . . . You should only mention that
      > something crucial was given away;-)

      This is why I put "Spoiler Warning" at the top of my message.

      And I'll bet this trailer gets played at Fellowship showings. Which means -- Spoiler warning again -- before newbies even know he DIES, they find out he comes back.

      I still think a trailer like that is a bad idea.

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  54. Wow by mnordstr · · Score: 2

    This is the first time I try the Crossover Plugin, and it actually works! Wow, great work on that one. Anyone who hasn't tried it, I suggest you do!

  55. Actually (Re:Glad they explain...) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually the two towers referred in the title are Minas Morgul and Minas Tirith. Tolkien himself explained it in a brief note at the end of The Fellowship of The Ring.

    On a side note, when are we going to have a Slashdot topic/section for The Lord of the Rings, like the StarWars one?.

    1. Re:Actually (Re:Glad they explain...) by istvandragosani · · Score: 1
      Actually, Tolkien says at the end of _FotR_ that it's *Orthanc* and Minas Morgul, and each book in TT is dominated by events surrounding both of those towers. I imagine they change that emphasis in the movie to keep from confusing people, since Minas Morgul only appears very briefly near the end of Book II in TT (when Frodo and Sam are sneaking past to Cirith Ungol).

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  56. Re:Rename"The Two Towers"to Something Less Offensi by RatBastard · · Score: 0, Troll

    Klerck, the joke has grown old and stale. How about a new schtick?

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  57. Forget about the stupid towers already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it was 8½ months ago. GET OVER IT! If you're still thinking about those stupid towers now you seriously need professional help.

  58. CrossOver Plugin by PimpNinjaWannaBee · · Score: 0
    SicariusMan: Thank goodness for the CrossOver Plugin.

    Me: My goodness! There's so many ads and "Friendly Reminder Screens" (What so friendly about them andway?) that you can hardly call it a even demo version.

  59. Eowyn! Eowyn! Eowyn! by freerangegeek · · Score: 1

    I'm so pleased to see that Eowyn is going to be in the movie. I was so scared that she'd be replaced by Arwen Warrior Princess.

  60. This preview is a major spoiler by MouseR · · Score: 4, Informative

    for those who have not read the books (fools!).

    This, concerning the white dressed man, in the forest. I'll say no more.

  61. TOLKIEN WAS A PROFIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    He predicted WTC bombing 47 years before the fact, and the third movie is RETURN OF THE KING. JESUS IS COMING BACK YOU HAD BETTER RECOGNIZE

    1. Re:TOLKIEN WAS A PROFIT by Lao-Tzu · · Score: 0, Troll

      Return of the king?

      It could be Elvis...

    2. Re:TOLKIEN WAS A PROFIT by Shade,+The · · Score: 2

      A profit? Yeah, I suppose LOTR is going to rake in a lot of cash...

  62. Pot brownies by zootread · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Be prepared to bake your pot brownies (or other baked goods) again for this one. I ate a bunch of "christmas cookies" before seeing the Fellowship of the Ring and man was it a blast.

    Here's some hints on baking:
    Simmer butter with ganja (and a little water) for at least 2 hours. After 2 hours or so gradually kick up the heat until you are sauteeing the weed and the water is boiled off. Use butter and weed mixture in your baking recipe of choice. Its better if you don't strain out the weed, you'll waste less. Start eating 2 hours before the movie starts to get it to kick in at the right time. You can eat again right before the movie or whenever. Your timing may very. If you eat it before a meal it'll kick in faster since your body will be in digestive mode.

    Enjoy! This is a three hour movie and you'll be nicely toasted the entire time, even when you step out of the theatre. Meanwhile the stoners who only smoked up will be sobering up 1 hour into the movie.

    Feel free to e-mail me with any questions: zootread at yahoo dot com

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    1. Re:Pot brownies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're probably that jerk who sits three rows behind me and tosses m&m's at my head. Fsck you.
      Why don't you try enjoying life through reason instead of wildly overstimulating your animal brain?
      You're no better than a dog at that rate.

  63. Something's very wrong by Looke · · Score: 1

    You know there's something wrong when the title "two towers" make you think of September 11th instead of Tolkien :( And I'm not even American...

    1. Re:Something's very wrong by Peyna · · Score: 1

      The towers you refer to are more commonly (at least by myself in the past) referred to as "the twin towers." Maybe not very significant, but it stands out in my mind.

      --
      What?
  64. No Quicktime for PPC Linux by chriseh · · Score: 1

    Stupid thing is, I run Apple hardware, but not their OS.

    My only solution for playing Quicktime movies is MacOnLinux, which is cool and everything, but the reason why I run Linux is so that I don't have to run MacOS.

    Apple should learn from www.joelonsoftware.com's recent article, and comoditize the player (or a free 'non-pro' version of it) to increase revenues on the encoders.

    Heck, I would even *pay* for Quicktime Pro for Linux PPC.

    1. Re:No Quicktime for PPC Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      xine 0.9.12;
      http://xine.sourceforge.net;
      open source;
      native Quicktime support.
      Need I say more?

    2. Re:No Quicktime for PPC Linux by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 2
      xine 0.9.12;
      http://xine.sourceforge.net;
      open source;
      native Quicktime support.
      Need I say more?

      Also, MPlayer in cvs currently has native SVQ1 support as well. Certainly, I was just able to play the trailer I downloaded off of one of the mirrors with it. Don't know how many other trailers and such are available in a format that the SVQ1 decoder can handle, but seeing this recent trailer in it gives me hope..>

      (Anybody know the proper way to configure Konqueror to use MPlayer to play these things automatically?...)

      (In the interest in giving fair credit to the Xine project - I do believe MPlayer's implementation is an optimization of the code made available by Xine, so they certainly deserve credit for figuring it out in the first place...)

  65. Two Towers. Which ones? by aralin · · Score: 2
    I mean, I hope they got it right, since it does not seem from the trailer. They talk about UNION of Two Towers, Barad-Dur and Orthanc, but the Two Towers in the title are about Minas Tirith and Minas Anor (Morgul) standing against each other, holding in the excpectation of the last battle.

    I hope they got at least this right, when they blew the thing with Saruman so completely and revealed his alliance with Sauron in the first part long before it was revealed in the book at the end of Two Towers.

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    1. Re:Two Towers. Which ones? by iamblades · · Score: 1

      Actually Minus Tirith and Minas Ithil(Morgul) are two cities, not towers, and they aren't really prevalant until RotK right before the final battle.

      I have always interpreted the 'Two Towers' in te name as referring to the union between Barad-Dur and Orthanc, as this is where most of the action is. Saruman gets confronted about his treachery and Orthanc is overtaken by the Ents. Anyway, Orthanc and Barad-Dur are the only two major towers listed by name in the books. A couple other towers are mentioned in passing, but some were destroyed or are no longer occupied..

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      Shit adds up at the bottom...
    2. Re:Two Towers. Which ones? by aralin · · Score: 2
      Ok, I've made a mistake there Minas Anor (Tirith) and Minas Ithil (Morgul) are the names, but it does not change a bit. If you would read what Tolkien says in Silmarillion about the end of this age, he clearly speaks about the battle of these two towers and thats where the name came from as well.

      Yes, there is a city built within the walls of Minas Tirith and Morgul, but these are just part of the defense ring of the towers if you ever seen any map. The main city in Gondor was Osgiliath and its no more.

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    3. Re:Two Towers. Which ones? by mastropiero · · Score: 1

      ...about Minas Tirith and Minas Anor (Morgul)...

      Actually I believe, Minas Tirith was formerly called Minas Anor and Minas Morgul was Minas Ithil, if my memory doesn't fail me.

    4. Re:Two Towers. Which ones? by mastropiero · · Score: 1

      Exactly, sorry about the other reply (browsing at +2)

    5. Re:Two Towers. Which ones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well actually, if you have read your fellowship of
      the ring closer. Gandalf makes it quite clear to
      the council of elrond that Saruman has betrayed them to Sauron. Remember how Gandalf was imprisioned in Orthanc while Frodo struggled to make it to Bree?

      I thought the movie did a good job of depicting Sarumans betrayal, although the 'moth' saving was a bit hokey... Kept expecting to hear the words 'Mothra!! Mothra!!' from Gandalf's mouth.

  66. Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've read the book several times. I'm gonna watch the movie. Why does it seem like people are making a bigger deal about trailers than the actual movie. So far I think the best trailer I've seen is for MiB II.

    Then there are the lusers who can't wait to see the movie so they download is off the internet and watch it on some POS monitor before they seen it in the theater. To quote William Shatner, "Get a life!"

  67. OT: sig by roju · · Score: 1
    "I get to go to lots of overseas places, like Canada." - Britney Spears

    Did she really say that?

    1. Re:OT: sig by Zelet · · Score: 2

      yes, she said that.

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  68. Official Version? by 90XDoubleSide · · Score: 2

    The only thing I can hope is that New Line will release a good version of their trailer now that this has been leaked. That piece of trash looks like they converted it from RealMedia :(

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  69. This is obviously a fake! by hawks5999 · · Score: 1

    It's obvious this is a tele sync from the preview at the end of LOTR with new voice over and some good editing. This is fake. New Line, Apple and lordoftherings.net would have this all over if it were real. Look, there's not one single scene that is not available from the preview. It does look good though... makes the fan Episode II trailer look like kindergarten.

    1. Re:This is obviously a fake! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what about the clip with legolas sliding down the
      stairs while shooting some orc. that was not seen in the preview..

    2. Re:This is obviously a fake! by hawks5999 · · Score: 1

      upon closer inspection, i must stand corrected

  70. Concerning White Cloak Dude in Forest Spoilers by linderdm · · Score: 1

    All of the remarks concerning showing Gandalf in the trailer as a major spoiler are valid, however Peter Jackson said in an interview (which I can't seem to find) about the teaser trailer that he polled fans about what they wanted to see in a teaser trailer, and Gandalf was towards the top of the list. That is why we see Gandalf in the teaser. He gave the fans what they wanted. His reasoning also was that the people who would be staying for the trailer when it was after FOTR would be the hardcore fans who already knew Gandalf comes back.

  71. Hi! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful



    Hi! I'm from the MPAA! I'm here to install rights-management software in all of your digital devices!

    Fuck you, you fascist bastard!

    No, really, it's the law now. All that money you spent seeing Spiderman and that movie about the gay Hobbits? We used it to lobby congress.

    I'm boycotting you!

    Are you sure? Here, look! Another Hobbit movie!

    OOOOH! Here's more money! Please sodomize me!

    1. Re:Hi! by Migor · · Score: 0, Troll

      Migor will NOT sodomize you, because Migor is not gay.

      He has better things to do. Migor has a mighty spaceship. He is currently in outerspace, where you in a billion years of evolution will never be able to grow wings and fly to.

      Migor might turn you into a duck.

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    2. Re:Hi! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      where you in a billion years of evolution will never be able to grow wings and fly to.

      Obviously, you haven't seen Evangelion yet.

  72. The real teaser is the fact that it's Slashdotted. by orichter · · Score: 1

    The real teaser is it's Slashdotted as soon as I find out about it.

    "Don't push the history eraser button Stimpy"

    "What does it do?"

    "Nobody knows."

  73. stupid spoilers by salmo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Man I can't believe it. Not only did the trailers give away so much about the movie, but this guy actually wrote out the entire story a while back, way before the movie came out, and totally ruined it for me. What an ass hole. I pretty much knew exacly what was going to happen before I even saw it.

    But watching it on the sceen was so much better than actually having to use my imagination. The orcs in my mind had little jaggies, because I couldn't render all of them well in real time. It's so much easier just to borrow someone else's imagination and not think so much. Man my brain hurts from having to type so many words. I need a better cooling system for me head.

  74. Saw it in the theatre by stubblehead · · Score: 2, Informative

    For the last week, I've been itching to post this but due to Net complications, it was not to be. However, fellow excited LOTR geeks, I am here to report I have seen the full trailer for The Two Towers, in a theatre, and you can too.

    I live in Ithaca, NY, home of Cornell University, who (thankfully) continue to show films over the summer, and at the end of last week's screening of Fellowship, there was the (at least 3 minute) preview of Towers. I haven't seen this one online that everyone's talking about, but I'm assuming it's the same. I'm one of those who enjoys previews in the theatre before the feature, especially when it gets you all wet, like the LOTR trilogy. And this was amazing.

    So I recommend to any and all, find a college close by that's screening Fellowship if you can. My theory is that they have an advance copy of the VHS (it wasn't DVD - their audio was awwwwful ) to show, and they let us see the preview. Thanks, CU.

    Peace out
    -e
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    1. Re:Saw it in the theatre by crisco · · Score: 2
      The one in the theatre has been playing since about April, I even pulled an ugly copy (like this one, but with more flash from an improper pulldown) off Kazaa about a week after I started hearing about (maybe check /. archives, might be in there).

      This one is about 2 miniutes and is mostly composed of some of the same footage that is in the other TT trailer/teaser. There did appear to be a few new shots, the shot of Legolas(?) sliding down steps, extra words from Gandalf, Gandalf charging into battle all seemed new to my admittedly faulty memory.

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    2. Re:Saw it in the theatre by stubblehead · · Score: 1

      Iiiinteresting...

      I never finished Fellowship the book, nor did I go onto the next 2, so I was hoping the question of Gandalf's return would be answered only by seeing the film, not by a trailer/Net postings. But that's okay - he looked awesome as a Gray and his return should be interesting.

      -e

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  75. Re:Pimpin' Vader... by Speare · · Score: 2

    I learned when I was ten years old not to write off ANYONE who merely disappears into oblivion, instead of getting squished or chopped or shot onscreen.

    After Star Wars in 1977 (that is, before anyone even realized it was gonna make it big, before sequels were even publically discussed), it was clear to me.

    After Obi-Wan vanished to Darth's lightblade, was Luke hearing his own memories/thoughts of Obi-Wan? Or was Obi-Wan really more powerful without his body? Darth Vader merely spun out of control for a while, then flew away. The next movie surely clinched both questions: Darth wasn't done and Obi-Wan's presence wasn't either.

    So when I read that Gandalf fell down the pit, I said, "we've got a lot of trilogy left, and Tolkien's making an awfully big deal out of Gandalf being dead; I bet he comes back."

    Your wife seems to know these story rules too.

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  76. White cloak dude in forest. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've heard of the Gandalf spoiler. (Oh, shush. If you haven't read TtT yet, too bad. *grumble* Youngin's.)

    I still haven't seen any trailers of TtT, but I'm wondering how much of a spoiler it might actually be? Do they zoom in close on Gandalf, or do we just see a funky wizard in a white cloak off in the distance?

    If it's the latter, erm, how is it a spoiler? I seem to recall a certain human, along with his pet dwarf and elf, encountering a certain white cloaked dude in a certain forest, and that white cloaked dude was not Gandalf. :p

  77. This is old by raiyu · · Score: 0

    I dont know what about the rest of you, but this preview has been showing at the end of Lord Of The Rings for a while now. I saw lord of the rings about 3 months after it came out, maybe more, and when the movie was finished, they had this preview running. Not sure if it was for everyone, but thats how it was for me in NYC.

  78. Even more mirrors by antdude · · Score: 2

    here (6/25/2002)

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  79. even though it's marked as 'funny' it's not by Twister002 · · Score: 2

    It pissed me off. I still remember lying in bed next to my wife when she was reading "The Two Towers", not having ever read the series before. I too had refused to tell her whether or not Gandalf was alive.

    I remember her happily saying "GANDALF!!" when she got to the part where he came back. I remember how happy she was that her favorite character hadn't died and I thought "the next movie is going to be so cool with an audience filled with people that happy." Oh well, so much for that.

    They had a chance to create a nice litle movie moment, a moment for the audience to cheer and yell much like we did when Yoda tottered around the corner in AOTC. They chose to blow it instead.

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  80. Reasonable formats? by kindbud · · Score: 2

    Let me know when you've transcoded to a reasonable format. I don't do Quicktime anymore. I'd rather miss the trailer. It's not like I'm not going to see the movie, after all.

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    1. Re:Reasonable formats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The latest version of xine(0.9.12 ) plays the trailer perfectly..no neeed for that crappy Quicktime player anymore ... http://xine.sourceforge.net

  81. Re:Wow... by OracleX103 · · Score: 1

    Somebody please mod this guy as flamebait... I'm out of ammo today.

  82. It's what I always say... by YourFavoriteBandSux · · Score: 1

    ...less Windows and Mordor. Geeze I just crack myself up...

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  83. THOSE INSENSITIVE BASTERDS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  84. Use the tickets to see Bourne Identity by Ruger · · Score: 1

    It's a very good movie. I haven't seen Minority Report yet, so I can't offer a comparison. I suspect your wife will enjoy BI, better than MR, unless of course she's a big Cruise or SciFi fan.

    Just to get this thread back On Topic...
    The new LOTR:TT trailer would be great if I could actually see anything. The damn thing's so small you really don't see much. I'm sure I'll be able to find a downloadable copy on a Newsgroup when I get home tonight. What I don't understand is why they have to make the trailer 240x180? Would it hurt anything to make it twice as big?!?!?!

    Ruger

  85. OMG! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I HEAR THAT PETER JACKSON ADDED A SCENE OF A DRAGON FLYING INTO ONE OF THE TOWERS! OMG THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A REFERENCE TO 9/11 OMGOMG!!!!

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  86. Re:Pimpin' Vader... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How's that working out for you, being clever?

    You know, if you really hone that skill, you can avoid being pleasantly surprised by a movie or book as long as you live. Won't that be fun?

  87. Ents.... by Scrab · · Score: 1

    I found this on http://www.theonering.net/movie/faq/page05.html It is now confirmed that Ents will in fact play a role in the movies, and will be created fully by WETA's digital effects team. According to TheOneRing.net spy Galadriel, Ents will "look more tree-like than human-being-like but somewhat transform from tree into walking being." In Jackson's original interview with Ain't It Cool News, he stated that the films would contain scenes of the Ents storming Isengard. In addition, John Rhys-Davies, who portrays Gimli in the films, will also provide the voice of Treebeard.

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  88. TWO TOWERS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I CRIED ALL DAY WHEN THE WTC WAS DESTROYE DAND ANY REFFERENCE TO THE INCIDENT ON 911 MAKES ME CRY :((((( I THINK I WILL CRY A LOT WHEN MY FRIEND ARE TALKING ABOUT THE "TWO TOWERS" MOVIE. PETER JACKSON IS A HEARTLESS MAN HE SHOULD BE SENT TO JAIL FOR EVEN THINKING OF NAMING THE MOVIE "TWO TOWERS"

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  89. Two Towers == Orthanc and Morgul by stevenj · · Score: 2
    You're all wrong. From Tolkien's words at the end of the Fellowship:
    Here ends the first part of the history of the War of the Ring. The second part is called The Two Towers, since the events recounted in it are dominated by Orthanc, the citadel of Saruman, and the fortress of Minas Morgul that guards the secret entrance to Mordor; it tells of the deeds and perils of all the members of the now sundered fellowship, until the coming of the Great Darkness.

    Note also that the former name of Minas Morgul was Minas Ithil. In Elrond's words:

    And on a time evil things came forth, and they took Minas Ithil and abode in it, and they made it into a place of dread; and it is called Minas Morgul, the Tower of Sorcery. Then Minas Anor was named anew Minas Tirith, the Tower of Guard; and these two cities were ever at war...
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  90. What, you didn't look through the menus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and find Control-M for "Present Movie", with the option to view it in full screen mode?

  91. To all complaining about the Gandalf "spoiler"... by weatherbee · · Score: 1
    Don't you think those people still not "in the know" might get some inkling when they see that The Two Towers lists as one of its stars... SIR IAN MCKELLEN???

    Or are you saying they should leave Sir Ian off the ad credits, keep him off the talk show circuit as the premiere approaches, etc? Madness.

  92. No need for crossover! by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 1

    It works perfectly in Xine! First QT movie in Xine that I've seen sound working, actually.

  93. Two towers.. by olman · · Score: 2

    Hey?

    Here I've been thinking since I was 12 that the title was referring to Minas Tirith and Minas Morgul, not Orthanc and Bara-dur?

    Another concession to the hollyweird?

  94. Two Towers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    I thought it might be something on the demise of the WTC - not more of this LotR crap. When are you guys going to grow up and realize that there are pieces of literature WAY better than that minor, silly work out there?

  95. same trailer? by Karma+Sucks · · Score: 2

    This sounds suspiciously like the exact same trailer they showed at the end of the LOTR movie, complete with Gandalf spoiler. Am I the only one who saw that trailer? I remember the first time I saw LOTR there was no trailer at the end.

    Sorry, too big a download to confirm.

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  96. Re:To all complaining about the Gandalf "spoiler". by Boronx · · Score: 1
    Or are you saying they should leave Sir Ian off the ad credits, keep him off the talk show circuit as the premiere approaches, etc? Madness.

    That's exactly what they should do. What ever happened to the art of showmanship?

  97. Re:Rename"The Two Towers"to Something Less Offensi by hether · · Score: 1

    And to think that the are 3600 signatures on that petition, even with the reminder at the top that the book was named 47 years ago. I wonder if this guy was really serious. People need to move on...

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  98. That only works for Quicktime Professional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  99. OH MAN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean Gandalf's alive?!?! I might as well not see the movie now, seeing as how the damned trailer gave away one of THE most exciting elements of Two Towers... oh of course there's the whole Orthanc working with Mordor thing, but wait a minute... they gave that away too... there's not a whole lot left... people fighting, going through evil places, all that... standard fantasy stuff...

    SCREW PETER JACKSON, SCREW HIM RIGHT IN HIS DISRESPECTING BOBO!

    I for one am beyond pissed about this whole thing. Tolkein didn't want movies made out of his books, and I agree with him. Tolkein's books are FAR too complex for any little pissant non-creative Hollywood director to even comprehend, much less say actually make a movie out of!

    Did anyone else notice the fact that Peter Jackson added scenes that weren't in the book at the expense of scenes that were in Fellowship? I wanted to see Tom friggin' Bombadil!

    Bastards...

  100. Of course they're in it by devphil · · Score: 2


    There were scenes in FOTR, while at Isengard, where Jackson went out of his way (well, more accurately, the movie plot went out of its way) to show us massive trees getting cut down, with the local foreman saying things like, "These trees have deep roots."

    Why do we care about the trees, when they play no obvious part in the growing of Saruman's army? We don't care, yet.

    I believe it was Anton Chekov, the famous Russian playwright, who said that if you show a character loading the gun in the first act, you must fire it in the third. If you show a gun firing in the third act, you must show it being loaded in the first. And Peter Jackson knows this.

    We've seen the loading of the gun. Be patient. :-)

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  101. Re:To all complaining about the Gandalf "spoiler". by weatherbee · · Score: 1
    What ever happened to the art of showmanship?

    In this case, it's been overridden by the need to be practical.

    Think about it... you are asking for 100% GANDALF-FREE trailers, advertisements, toys, promotional materials, lobby cutouts, EVERYTHING you can think of to do with TTT. You're saying they should ignore the star power of Sir Ian, give the man short shrift by leaving his name off everything (except the movie itself of course), deny him the opportunity to help promote the film, all to keep a WIDELY KNOWN "spoiler" out of the minds of those few laggards who haven't yet bothered to pick up the books?

    Like I said, madness.

  102. MPEG and DivX 5 Version (+ original QT) here by Drestin · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://node2.callihq.net/

    Go for it...

    1. Re:MPEG and DivX 5 Version (+ original QT) here by Erik+Fish · · Score: 2

      Thank you!

      My linux box isn't powerful enough to watch video on (and lacks sound anyway). On the other hand I refuse to install QuickTime on my Windows machine.

      Life would be so much better if all video codecs were player-independent...

  103. Heh, I thought they meant the WTC by wackybrit · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I'm not into LOTR at all, so when I saw this story on the front page, I thought, "Cool! They're making an action film about the WTC!" Imagine my disappointment to find out it was LOTR.

    And before you cast me off as 'sick', was Schlindler's List 'sick'? No, I think not.

    Too soon perhaps. But you just KNOW we're going to have a WTC movie at some point in the future. Perhaps after WW3 has finished.

  104. Also... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out the cool poster & wallpaper at http://www.lordoftherings.net/film/exclusives/feat ures.html.

  105. xine compatible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can the latest version of xine play the LOTR TT teaser trailer?

  106. hmmm by Captain+Comet · · Score: 1

    sigh i submitted this within moments after it appeared at www.theonering.net which was long before it appeared at the movie site, and my story was rejected

    oh well

    the trailer is still good, but frankly isnt nearly as good as what was shown on the tail-end of LOTR:FOTR

  107. Re:Pimpin' Vader... by Buck2 · · Score: 1

    Ain't that the truth.

    As a matter of fact, I didn't even need to read the second line of your post!

    I did anyway, though. Stupid me. I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised but DAMN so predictable.

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  108. Very busy CG folks by ilmarin · · Score: 1

    Given the lack of ent shots in the preview, there's probably a large room of frantically busy animators in New Zeland Maya'ing like crazy. What could be a more difficult CG challenge? Ents are all character. They don't have flashy teeth, wings, or much in the way of joints, and they are the most endearing characters in the six books. I bet there's a huge pile of ent bits in /dev/null, and not many left for the previews.

  109. Slashdot Karma HOWTO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is 10pm Do you know where your karma is Right Let us get startedIn order to get maximum karma from Slashdot posting you can follow a few simple guidelines The University you go to Regardless of where you actually study saying that youre at MIT automagically gains you 2 Slashdot like the glorified student notice board that it is has a special place in its heart for anything from MIT whether it be a teddy bear stuffed with a switch or some wankers wrapping a yellow banner with elvish text around the main dome Even if you didnt go to university qualify every comment with a My professor told me to bask in the warm fuzzy glow of 2 Insightful Linux The basis of the Slashdot Experience Claiming you run Linux also gets you 1 Interesting It doesnt really matter if youve never actually installed it or your Red Hat box still doesnt have PPP running after 2 years of reading FAQs The important bit is Youre part of the community You can bathe in the refelected glory of years of shoddy buggy code You are exempt from the Microsoft penalty see below as of course your Win 98 install is only used for playing games And reading Slashdot And using MS Word And Photoshop And Microsoft Slashbots and the editors hate Microsoft Period Use of a symbol in every iteration of their trademarks gets you a 4 Funny Even though it is far from original it still manages to raise a grin in those people reading Slashdot between episodes of Cowboy Bebop You will get a 1 Flamebait or Troll for any post even hinting that Microsoft products are any good useful intuitive user friendly You will also quickly be shot down with replies about how good GNOME and KDE are which will then in turn erupt into a flame war Freedom Privacy YRO The bread and butter of Slashdot It fits in sublimely with the whole Linux thing Youll get a 3 Informative for any post containing the Ben Franklin quote about sacrificing essential liberty It makes no difference that the quote is totally irrelevant in the modern world Hey youve got karma Miscredting the quote will not end up in a karma penalty as has been demonstrated countless times You will gain extra karma if you make reference to your experiences of being wiretapped by the NSA and throwing in a vague link to Echelon black helicopters or Tin Foil Hat Linux Include a link to the First Amendment for a 1 Interesting mod Give yourself a pat on the back if you manage to include some extra raging paranoia with no evidence to back it up Nice BSD If you use it dont mention it on Slashdot Most of the Linuxusing friendless wonders that inhabit Slashdot wouldnt know quality and stability if it strolled up and kicked them in the throat with a size 13 HiTec Magnum boot Any mention of how a Firewall running OpenBSD with pf is far superior to Linuxs pathetic offering will soon see you as 1 Troll Much like the post youre reading now Yearning for yesteryear Although most comments are written by first year wannabeCSguru students or links to goatsecx there is still the fallout dregs of the dot com boom lurking around slashdot You can get 5 Insightful for telling how you were so badly treated after the bubble burst Whining about the lack of jobs where you get paid to fire foam darts at colleagues is a good start Dont forget to mention how youve now been out of work for months It starts a Im about to graduate and theres nothing going fuckfest which can spill over into hundreds of comments Although all the staff who were any good simply got hired into another company it makes Good Karma Senseto hide the fact that your passing familiarity with Perl and C simply cant get you a job This is also a prime opportunity to show your egregious personality as Slashdot rewards arrogance and elitism DONT FORGET TO MOD ME DOWN

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  110. Stupid Mode: on by juliao · · Score: 2
    I must have turned on "stupid mode" inside my brain this morning and forgot to turn it off...

    When I read the article title, I thought it was some kind of new movie about Sep. 11...

  111. "Pipe-weed" by zootread · · Score: 1

    You're probably that jerk who sits three rows behind me and tosses m&m's at my head. Fsck you.

    Actually, I'm the guy who's so paranoid that he's afraid to open his bag of chocalate covered peanuts for fear that the loud noise will disturb others or that the bag will violently rip open sending peanuts everywhere into the heads of others, so he gets the girl he came with to do it for him. Seriously, that happened when I went to see LotR. BTW You have m&m's tossed at your head all the time? You need to start standing up for yourself.

    Why don't you try enjoying life through reason instead of wildly overstimulating your animal brain? You're no better than a dog at that rate.

    Umm... ok. I've been sober since December. And that means no alcohol and no caffiene, either. During this time, I've visited other countries, I've had enormous amounts of sex, I've worked out 4-6 times a week, and I've solved some pretty daunting problems. I'm enjoying life through reason (though still being a dog with the constant sex and excercise).

    But when the time comes I will use cannabis. Honestly, LotR is so amazing that it deserves the enhancement of cannabis to allow you to completely become part of Middle Earth. And I think there are many stoners among the Slashdot group who agree, and I thought they could learn from my experience in cooking. I don't get stoned for every movie, but for LotR I do! I mean the people of Middle Earth are stoner for Christ's sakes! "Pipe-weed"!!! To take a step further, in real life, Elijiah Wood and other cast members smoke pot (and eat shrooms). Its only appropriate.

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  112. Too many masturbatory geeks is an obscene view by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 2

    Honest, what is so great about those movies.

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  113. Re:Rename"The Two Towers"to Something Less Offensi by THX1138 · · Score: 1

    Somehow I get the feeling this idiot is just being a dumfuck failure of a troll-like clonelet rather than being a syphalitic, drooling, imbecile with a tooless, gaping maw in the middle of what is, in a human, classifed as a face similar to the onew currently screwing thing up in a glaringly painted building while his buddies riup people of, collapse companies flip the bird to people that lost money then shit on them.

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  114. Here's what they'll do! (7 words...) by zrk · · Score: 1

    "Where there's a Whip, there's a way"

    alright 9 words if you count the contractions...