"if you think otherwise, you're a loser. no flame intended - just good ole self-evidence."
I hate when people say stuff like this. A show doesn't have to be universally accepted as 'good' for somebody to enjoy it.
I'm a Deep Space Nine fan. I even like the bad eps of DS9 because I have found something I really appreciate about it: it's overall visual quality. The sets are very nice and the effects are top notch.
Do I expect everybody to like DS9? Nope. I found something in particular I really like about it. There are a lot of people that say it sucks. So what? It just means that those people don't appreciate the same stuff that I do.
Call me a loser over it, however, and all you're doing to do is convince me that you judge people for petty reasons. "You suck because you like shows that I don't."
You can't measure somebody by the shows they watch. All you're doing is giving other people a means to judge you, negatively.
Im not sure Id say that. I do like Farscape, but there are a lot of times that it is weird just for the sake of being weird. The episode that made me roll my eyes the most was the one where they ended up on a planet occupied by mostly lawyers.
Hmmm I probably wasn't very clear, my apologies. I don't mind when ppl suggest obvious stuff, it's when they suggest it, assume it's the right answer, and then treat you like you're a moron over it.
I had a guy call me a twit the other day because I said Slashdot doesn't parse posts. I thought it didn't, but there was something I failed to notice: When somebody creates a hyperlink, you can see the domain name added after it. Oops!
I made the mistake because I post quite a bit on other forums. VBulletin, for example, automatically parses http lines and makes them into hyperlinks. Simple mistake! One guy didn't think so, though. "You are so a twit." Was the response I got.
Was that necessary? Nope. He could have been polite. He could have said "Actually,/. does parse posts, you can tell because..." and I would have agreed that he's right and all's well.
I am soooooooooooooooo sick of that.
I'm happy, though. Everybody who's responded to this thread has been quite polite and it is *very much* appreciated.:)
I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I'm leary of monopolies. On the other, some of these companies put loooooooads of money into making this work.
I wouldn't mind AT&T BI having a temporary monopoly to recoup their investment (like they do with drug companies...). However, forever is a really long time.
What I'm concerned about is this: Without temporary monopolies to recoup R&D and Deployment, what incentive is there for a company to invest butt-loads of money into something like a broadband network?
the first thing they always say is "Why don't you just..."
The worst part is when they pick the most obvious, first thing you thought of... as if you're a moron! They never stop and think "Hmm he probably already thought of that and found a problem.". Instead, they try to roll it up into a ball of mud and sling it at ya.
There is a sizable chunk of the Slashdot population (that ever responded to my posts...) that I wish would learn some etiquette. Is it really that hard to phrase it like this:
"Did you try doing this?" Instead of "WTF didn't you do it this way? God, you must be thick!".
"They have such poor reading comprehension and conversational skills that there is really not any point or benefit in trying to convince them of anything anyway."
I think this one nailed it. One guy in particular started off making a decent point and ended up trying to start a name calling contest with me heh.
Thanks for the nicer reply heh. *was sick of getting flamed*
C'mon guys, he did something artistic to his place that's kinda cool. I'm seriously disappointed with the negativity that I have read so far.
"Oh it's unoriginal because it's done on the news" -- Amusing logic considering that a news station can hire a crew of professionals to build something like that.
"Waste of time!" -- Yah, like there aren't people out there who think posting stupid comments like that on Slashdot isn't a waste of time. Never mind that he did it during a period of unemployment. I'll tell you something, I know a few people who got laid off in the last year or two, and they turned into total bums during that period. Frankly, I think it's cool that somebody used his artistic skill to improve his living conditions instead of sitting around, playing Quake, and behaving as if the world shit on him/her.
Before you make your negative post about what this guy did, ask yourself: What independent project have YOU taken on? Did you do anything remotely as ambitious? Did you release information about how you did it?
Consider this: When you say "this isn't original because something like that's been done before...", how much did you oversimplify your idea before you came to that conclusion? There was a post earlier that said "Nothing new, they do this on the news all the time." To make a comment like that, they had to filter out conditions like 'News stations pay extra money for stuff like that to appear local.' and "It's an uncommon thing for home-owners to do something like that." That's a lot of information to throw out, and what is the benefit? "Oh, I'm unimpressed. That makes me sound like I've seen more than most people."
When somebody works to create something like that, it really hurts to have people not like it because they're unwilling to put more than a moment's thought into it.
Heh. Neat idea, but I prefer his approach. The nice thing about his is that it is stereoscopic. It's easier to settle into the illusion because even at a distance, the Plasma Screen will be noticable.
However, what I really do like about your idea is that I could play with different ideas, like have stars streaking by like my house is at warp. I know, that's pretty geeky, but it'd be a fun project.:)
"What kind of fuckhead quotes himself in his sig? I scoff at your unjustified arrogance."
Lol!! I find it amusing that you just jumped to the conclusion that I was being arrogant. You'd think that if I were being arrogant that I'd say something a little more profound than "Don't nitpick my details!" to the Slashdot crowd.
There's a very good reason I quoted myself in my sig. If you're curious, I'll tell you why. But since you're an AC, I doubt you're reading this anyway.
Yeah I know what you mean. There is a user preference you can set that seperates the sig from the post with a couple of dashes. I've missed that a few times heh.:)
"So if 7-11 doesn't put up a sign that says "don't steal--stealing is illegal," that's entrapment? "
Bad example. Let me correct it for you:
Ever see those charity things where they have a plate of candy with a donation jar. Leave a donation, take some candy. If you make a 1 cent donation and take two pieces of candy, are you stealing? If you get sued for 'breach of implied contract', is that entrapment?
If it makes you feel any better, I agree with you. That's a concern I have about OpenSource as well. On the flip side, though, the biggest security problems that MS has is caused by their over-abundance of 'features'. The reason that the Melissa virus went around the web was not a flaw in the system, but an oversight into how it could be used. MS included.VBS capability to allow Windows automation, but hadn't considered that linking it to Outlook could result in a malicious attack.
It seems to me that having the source code of an OS or a product might reveal potential exploits, but the most damaging attacks we've seen so far seem to be from exploitation of features designed by a company trying to be more enticing. I can understand the negativity towards your concern, however I do not condone it.
You are right in that the more you know about a program deep down, the more capable you are of damaging it.
One more point: I never said that the warning stopped people from doing it. I'm saying that it at least lets people know they're not allowed to do it. If somebody copies a movie and sells it, then gets busted, they can't claim they didn't know it was illegal. But what happens when you do it with a TV show?
Is anybody else frustrated with people nitpicking details so hard that they ignore your point? Is it really worth the energy trying to prove that everything everybody says is wrong in some fashion?
"...don't have access to any source code, yet they still find the holes."
You don't need the source code, you just need to have Windows. Understanding of Windows features leads to understanding of how to be annoying to other Windows user.
On the other hand, I would have no idea how to attack a Linux user. If I were to get familiar with Linux, I could start to cook up ideas.
I don't doubt that it happens, but I personally have never done that. It's a pain in the ass to do, really.
If you think about it though, it's really not a very wide spread thing. It's something you'd have to be talked into. Not really true with TV shows, though. I've had friends (particularly my gf, she's awesome about that...) tape shows for me and loan them to me, but getting them to copy a movie is a different scenario all together. Usually I get told 'go rent it'.
"Without the script kiddies, you still have to worry about serious crack attempts. By using antique software, it is probably relatively easy to do some research and find security vulnerabilities. "
You lightly touched on one of the biggest vulnerabilities to any system: Consistancy. If you can research an OS, you can find out how to break in.
What about a case where somebody builds their own OS and runs their apps on it? (I realize that is extremely unlikely, so use your imagination a bit...) How would a would-be hacker get into that? I'm sure it's possible, but without a model to work from, how would they know what to do?
My company used to run IIS. When we got hit with Nimda, I noticed that 'CMD.exe' was getting called a lot. What'd I do? I renamed CMD.exe and replaced it with Calc.exe. I had originally intended to write my own VB App that'd notify me if it was ever ran. Never got around to it, though. Essentially, I hid a commonly known function of WinNT. Anybody breaking into the system would have to figure out what I did since it's no longer the same type of server other people run.
It is for this reason I'm really interested in Linux as server. If I were to get really deep down into the nitty gritty, I could make the OS so unfamiliar that only the most determined hacker would get in.
I think the most interesting speed boost in Opera comes from the MDI interface. Opening a new window in Opera is virtually instantaneous. However, opening a new window in IE is akin to opening a new instance of an app.
Also, Opera doesn't require near as much memory as IE does. So if you're on a machine limited on RAM, like my laptop is, then this'll provide a nice speed boost heh.
"I have seen examples of this in action with commercials on some rental DVDs, and it pisses me off. Sure as hell doesn't motivate me to buy the DVD later! "
I vaguely remember somebody telling me that rental DVD's have the commercials, but commercial ones don't. In other words, it's possible that if you buy the DVD at a movie store you won't have that.
However, I totally understand your frustration. I'd be annoyed by that too! As if the cost of renting isn't high enough, they want to bombard you with more ads.
I kind of wish DVD players had a cookie system so that it'd remember that you already saw the ad, and skip it the next time.
"As an aside, I feel product placements, as long as they're not forced, are nice."
I find it startling when everyday products are replaced with generic ones. I don't remember what movie it was, but there was a guy carrying what looked like a can of Coke. Only, it said 'COLA' on the side.
Personally, I'd prefer he just using the Coke can. If a character has a singular preference to Coke vs. Pepsi, that is acceptable as long as it's interesting in some way.
To be perfectly honest, I'd like to see a Coke guy and a Pepsi guy get into a fist fight over it. heh.
Slashdot Mirror
Actually, I think you can get away with 'shazbat'. :)
"...the man in the street expects them to be working towards the Starship Enterprise, after all."
What do you mean? Nasa already built the starship Enterprise!
*G*
"if you think otherwise, you're a loser. no flame intended - just good ole self-evidence."
I hate when people say stuff like this. A show doesn't have to be universally accepted as 'good' for somebody to enjoy it.
I'm a Deep Space Nine fan. I even like the bad eps of DS9 because I have found something I really appreciate about it: it's overall visual quality. The sets are very nice and the effects are top notch.
Do I expect everybody to like DS9? Nope. I found something in particular I really like about it. There are a lot of people that say it sucks. So what? It just means that those people don't appreciate the same stuff that I do.
Call me a loser over it, however, and all you're doing to do is convince me that you judge people for petty reasons. "You suck because you like shows that I don't."
You can't measure somebody by the shows they watch. All you're doing is giving other people a means to judge you, negatively.
Im not sure Id say that. I do like Farscape, but there are a lot of times that it is weird just for the sake of being weird. The episode that made me roll my eyes the most was the one where they ended up on a planet occupied by mostly lawyers.
Ugh.
*Really misses Doctor Who*
Hmmm I probably wasn't very clear, my apologies. I don't mind when ppl suggest obvious stuff, it's when they suggest it, assume it's the right answer, and then treat you like you're a moron over it.
/. does parse posts, you can tell because..." and I would have agreed that he's right and all's well.
:)
I had a guy call me a twit the other day because I said Slashdot doesn't parse posts. I thought it didn't, but there was something I failed to notice: When somebody creates a hyperlink, you can see the domain name added after it. Oops!
I made the mistake because I post quite a bit on other forums. VBulletin, for example, automatically parses http lines and makes them into hyperlinks. Simple mistake! One guy didn't think so, though. "You are so a twit." Was the response I got.
Was that necessary? Nope. He could have been polite. He could have said "Actually,
I am soooooooooooooooo sick of that.
I'm happy, though. Everybody who's responded to this thread has been quite polite and it is *very much* appreciated.
I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I'm leary of monopolies. On the other, some of these companies put loooooooads of money into making this work.
I wouldn't mind AT&T BI having a temporary monopoly to recoup their investment (like they do with drug companies...). However, forever is a really long time.
What I'm concerned about is this: Without temporary monopolies to recoup R&D and Deployment, what incentive is there for a company to invest butt-loads of money into something like a broadband network?
the first thing they always say is "Why don't you just..."
The worst part is when they pick the most obvious, first thing you thought of... as if you're a moron! They never stop and think "Hmm he probably already thought of that and found a problem.". Instead, they try to roll it up into a ball of mud and sling it at ya.
There is a sizable chunk of the Slashdot population (that ever responded to my posts...) that I wish would learn some etiquette. Is it really that hard to phrase it like this:
"Did you try doing this?" Instead of "WTF didn't you do it this way? God, you must be thick!".
"They have such poor reading comprehension and conversational skills that there is really not any point or benefit in trying to convince them of anything anyway."
I think this one nailed it. One guy in particular started off making a decent point and ended up trying to start a name calling contest with me heh.
Thanks for the nicer reply heh. *was sick of getting flamed*
Yah! Damn Intel for trying to maintain backwards compatibility!!
C'mon guys, he did something artistic to his place that's kinda cool. I'm seriously disappointed with the negativity that I have read so far.
"Oh it's unoriginal because it's done on the news" -- Amusing logic considering that a news station can hire a crew of professionals to build something like that.
"Waste of time!" -- Yah, like there aren't people out there who think posting stupid comments like that on Slashdot isn't a waste of time. Never mind that he did it during a period of unemployment. I'll tell you something, I know a few people who got laid off in the last year or two, and they turned into total bums during that period. Frankly, I think it's cool that somebody used his artistic skill to improve his living conditions instead of sitting around, playing Quake, and behaving as if the world shit on him/her.
Before you make your negative post about what this guy did, ask yourself: What independent project have YOU taken on? Did you do anything remotely as ambitious? Did you release information about how you did it?
Consider this: When you say "this isn't original because something like that's been done before...", how much did you oversimplify your idea before you came to that conclusion? There was a post earlier that said "Nothing new, they do this on the news all the time." To make a comment like that, they had to filter out conditions like 'News stations pay extra money for stuff like that to appear local.' and "It's an uncommon thing for home-owners to do something like that." That's a lot of information to throw out, and what is the benefit? "Oh, I'm unimpressed. That makes me sound like I've seen more than most people."
When somebody works to create something like that, it really hurts to have people not like it because they're unwilling to put more than a moment's thought into it.
Heh. Neat idea, but I prefer his approach. The nice thing about his is that it is stereoscopic. It's easier to settle into the illusion because even at a distance, the Plasma Screen will be noticable.
:)
However, what I really do like about your idea is that I could play with different ideas, like have stars streaking by like my house is at warp. I know, that's pretty geeky, but it'd be a fun project.
Yeah!! Boycott Walmart so that the starving people that work in sweatshops lose their jobs!
"What kind of fuckhead quotes himself in his sig?
:)
I scoff at your unjustified arrogance."
Lol!! I find it amusing that you just jumped to the conclusion that I was being arrogant. You'd think that if I were being arrogant that I'd say something a little more profound than "Don't nitpick my details!" to the Slashdot crowd.
There's a very good reason I quoted myself in my sig. If you're curious, I'll tell you why. But since you're an AC, I doubt you're reading this anyway.
Thanks for the good laugh, though.
Yeah I know what you mean. There is a user preference you can set that seperates the sig from the post with a couple of dashes. I've missed that a few times heh. :)
Lol!! That was funny hehe.
You're right though. Is it better now?
"So if 7-11 doesn't put up a sign that says "don't steal--stealing is illegal," that's entrapment? "
Bad example. Let me correct it for you:
Ever see those charity things where they have a plate of candy with a donation jar. Leave a donation, take some candy. If you make a 1 cent donation and take two pieces of candy, are you stealing? If you get sued for 'breach of implied contract', is that entrapment?
If it makes you feel any better, I agree with you. That's a concern I have about OpenSource as well. On the flip side, though, the biggest security problems that MS has is caused by their over-abundance of 'features'. The reason that the Melissa virus went around the web was not a flaw in the system, but an oversight into how it could be used. MS included .VBS capability to allow Windows automation, but hadn't considered that linking it to Outlook could result in a malicious attack.
It seems to me that having the source code of an OS or a product might reveal potential exploits, but the most damaging attacks we've seen so far seem to be from exploitation of features designed by a company trying to be more enticing. I can understand the negativity towards your concern, however I do not condone it.
You are right in that the more you know about a program deep down, the more capable you are of damaging it.
One more point: I never said that the warning stopped people from doing it. I'm saying that it at least lets people know they're not allowed to do it. If somebody copies a movie and sells it, then gets busted, they can't claim they didn't know it was illegal. But what happens when you do it with a TV show?
Is anybody else frustrated with people nitpicking details so hard that they ignore your point? Is it really worth the energy trying to prove that everything everybody says is wrong in some fashion?
"...don't have access to any source code, yet they still find the holes."
You don't need the source code, you just need to have Windows. Understanding of Windows features leads to understanding of how to be annoying to other Windows user.
On the other hand, I would have no idea how to attack a Linux user. If I were to get familiar with Linux, I could start to cook up ideas.
I don't doubt that it happens, but I personally have never done that. It's a pain in the ass to do, really.
If you think about it though, it's really not a very wide spread thing. It's something you'd have to be talked into. Not really true with TV shows, though. I've had friends (particularly my gf, she's awesome about that...) tape shows for me and loan them to me, but getting them to copy a movie is a different scenario all together. Usually I get told 'go rent it'.
"Without the script kiddies, you still have to worry about serious crack attempts. By using antique software, it is probably relatively easy to do some research and find security vulnerabilities. "
You lightly touched on one of the biggest vulnerabilities to any system: Consistancy. If you can research an OS, you can find out how to break in.
What about a case where somebody builds their own OS and runs their apps on it? (I realize that is extremely unlikely, so use your imagination a bit...) How would a would-be hacker get into that? I'm sure it's possible, but without a model to work from, how would they know what to do?
My company used to run IIS. When we got hit with Nimda, I noticed that 'CMD.exe' was getting called a lot. What'd I do? I renamed CMD.exe and replaced it with Calc.exe. I had originally intended to write my own VB App that'd notify me if it was ever ran. Never got around to it, though. Essentially, I hid a commonly known function of WinNT. Anybody breaking into the system would have to figure out what I did since it's no longer the same type of server other people run.
It is for this reason I'm really interested in Linux as server. If I were to get really deep down into the nitty gritty, I could make the OS so unfamiliar that only the most determined hacker would get in.
"unfortantly the riaa/mpaa would have to agree on some form of marking commercials for the pvr to keep track of them."
:)
COOKIES!!!
I think the most interesting speed boost in Opera comes from the MDI interface. Opening a new window in Opera is virtually instantaneous. However, opening a new window in IE is akin to opening a new instance of an app.
Also, Opera doesn't require near as much memory as IE does. So if you're on a machine limited on RAM, like my laptop is, then this'll provide a nice speed boost heh.
"I have seen examples of this in action with commercials on some rental DVDs, and it pisses me off. Sure as hell doesn't motivate me to buy the DVD later! "
I vaguely remember somebody telling me that rental DVD's have the commercials, but commercial ones don't. In other words, it's possible that if you buy the DVD at a movie store you won't have that.
However, I totally understand your frustration. I'd be annoyed by that too! As if the cost of renting isn't high enough, they want to bombard you with more ads.
I kind of wish DVD players had a cookie system so that it'd remember that you already saw the ad, and skip it the next time.
"As an aside, I feel product placements, as long as they're not forced, are nice."
I find it startling when everyday products are replaced with generic ones. I don't remember what movie it was, but there was a guy carrying what looked like a can of Coke. Only, it said 'COLA' on the side.
Personally, I'd prefer he just using the Coke can. If a character has a singular preference to Coke vs. Pepsi, that is acceptable as long as it's interesting in some way.
To be perfectly honest, I'd like to see a Coke guy and a Pepsi guy get into a fist fight over it. heh.