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Build Your Own Cityscape

Hoagy writes "Many friends think I've moved when I show them this picture. I've constructed a lit model of midtown Manhattan to fill an otherwise unspectactular view out of our kitchen window. The website details the construction process and how to design and build your own. The city lights also automatically turn on/off via an X10 cronjob on my home Linux server." Nice hack job.

251 comments

  1. So? by NickRob · · Score: 0, Troll

    News agencies have been doing this for years. People aren't really interviewed in front of the best view in the city.

    P.S. The cityscapes in the background on Connan and Leno and Letterman aren't real either.

    1. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol, if someone thought the background in leno was real...... Then I guess Its possible for LA to have all the national monument buildings in the U.S.

    2. Re:So? by dr_dank · · Score: 5, Funny

      P.S. The cityscapes in the background on Connan and Leno and Letterman aren't real either.

      What a relief! Here I thought Dave Letterman was going to hurt someone when he flung his notecards out of the window.

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    3. Re:So? by bluethundr · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...but then again....

      Dave Letterman and Jay Leno have ENTIRE ART DEPARTMENTS and UNION LABOR to build those sets.

      This guy had the gumption to do it on his on, so why the hell not give credit where credit is due? What's so damn special about your meaningless trott across this fine globe of ours?

      Retarded fucking killjoys like you are what keeps this board so entertaining. :)

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    4. Re:So? by Bob+Finklestein · · Score: 1

      Well while we're on the subject of fake cityscapes...
      On NBC's Dateline, the fake cityscape in their window actually includes the NBC building where the show's filmed.

    5. Re:So? by bluethundr · · Score: 1

      ...ROTFLOL!!! Isn't it hilarious how shallow so many computer geeks egos are? I must've hit a nerve considering the intensity of that response. I also would suppose, considering the bile flowing from your fingertips at the slightest provocation that in your rage you have failed to consider that I might have multiple logins. I happen to like this name. I invite you to find out what my other ones are, you über hacker, you! :) Why is the ego of so many a geek so goshdarn fragile? By the way, thanks for conceding my point by failing to address it and attacking me on so completely (read:lower) level. Incidentally, exactly where in any of my posts do I "pretend" to use Linux? My recommendation? Get a therapist! Or better yet, a girlfriend since you've obviously never gotten laid to be so fragile, you maloderous offal !

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    6. Re:So? by bojan · · Score: 1

      Right On

    7. Re:So? by lowtekneq · · Score: 1

      Connans backdrop is nothing but a clothe.. sorry no big achivement there.

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    8. Re:So? by bluethundr · · Score: 1

      By the way fuckface, /. has been my homepage (in various guises) since 1998. Put that in your anonymous loser pipe and smoke it, just like you smoke the tube steak to keep your uncles happy. like the Black Flag once said...SMALL MAN, BIG MOUTH! http://www.suburbias.com/punk/bf/

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  2. When the new towers are erected by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1, Interesting

    When the new towers are erected, will you update the cityscape?

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    1. Re:When the new towers are erected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Modding on reputation, huh? This post may not be worth reading, it may be completely devoid of any insight or completely clueless, but it certainly isn't a troll.

    2. Re:When the new towers are erected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One big diff...Dave and Jay both had art departments and union labor to build those sets for them. Could you possibly be naive enough to believe they got their lilly white hands dirty building those sets? Do you think it was even their idea?

      To me, this guy deserves credit because he conceived it and built it himself. So why not give credit where credit is due?

      What's so damn exciting about you that you get to sit on you're high horse and judge the work and creativity this guy has you probably do not have?

      Why do you remind me so much of Ignatius J. Reilly?

      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/080213020 8/ qid=1023482879/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_2/104-9760706-13743 68

  3. You *want* a view of a city? by Fantanicity · · Score: 5, Informative


    I live in a city ... I'd like a view of trees and fields and stars at night please.

    1. Re:You *want* a view of a city? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      P.S. The cityscapes in the background on Leno and Conan and Letterman aren't real either.

      Wow, who'da thunk it.

    2. Re:You *want* a view of a city? by lowtekneq · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well the grass is always greener on the other side? I live in the suburbs.. now WTF do i want?!

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    3. Re:You *want* a view of a city? by EnderWiggnz · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      now... if only i could spend 30 minutes getting to work in an underground cave ... that smelt like urine... i would _love_ it here!!!!!

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    4. Re:You *want* a view of a city? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Suprised this isn't related to some lego story that usually gets hyped.
      Yeah looks like one of those conan / leno back drops.

      Do you do any standup comedy?

    5. Re:You *want* a view of a city? by Asprin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I live in a city ... I'd like a view of trees and fields and stars at night please.

      Maybe there's an aftermarket for stuff like this - premade custom-built internally lit dioramas you bolt to your house to change the view.

      How would you like to wake up on Mars every morning? Or, maybe overlooking your favorite Quake 3 Arena map? The grand canyon? Atlantis? How about one that looks like (The Simpsons) Springfield, USA or a warehouse stacked with old VAX and PDP boxen like at the end of 'Raiders'?

      Or, even better, how about a windowbox that looks *exactly* like your own neighborhood, but without all that shit laying around in your neighbor's yard!

      Now, how much would you pay for THAT?

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    6. Re:You *want* a view of a city? by Rasta+Prefect · · Score: 3, Funny


      Fewer homes that look exactly like the one next to it except for the a slightly different shade of beige on the vinyl siding?

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    7. Re:You *want* a view of a city? by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1
      now... if only i could spend 30 minutes getting to work in an underground cave ... that smelt like urine... i would _love_ it here!!!!!

      Get a cat, and wander by the catbox every morning...

    8. Re:You *want* a view of a city? by friscolr · · Score: 2
      Maybe there's an aftermarket for stuff like this - premade custom-built internally lit dioramas you bolt to your house to change the view

      reminds me of Resident Evil - in the movie the underground lab has fake windows to simluate live topside.

      How would you like to wake up on Mars every morning?

      and this comment reminded me of the playsets used by the Martian colonists in PK Dick's The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch. i think i'd rather have those...

    9. Re:You *want* a view of a city? by aclarke · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of a neato but completely impractical (for the moment) business idea I had a few years ago. Once you have plasma-tv walls or something, you can pretty much be anywhere you want. I'm obviously far from the only person to have thought of this, but wouldn't it be great, instead of having an alarm clock, to wake up to sunrise in the Gobi desert on your ceiling and all 4 walls? Just place cameras in remote places (assuming there are any left by then) and for $29.95 per month people can "be" wherever they want in their own room.

      That, and I keep hoping They invent the teleporter soon...

    10. Re:You *want* a view of a city? by SamTheButcher · · Score: 1

      Your comments remind me of something I saw at a home and garden show, basically pictures that are made to fit inside of basement window wells, so you're not looking at the corrugated metal outside the well. Pictures of undersea scapes, cityscapes, all sorts of things. Only a couple struck me as very clever, and I can't Google any examples. Most just looked tacky.

    11. Re:You *want* a view of a city? by benzapp · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I live in a city too, but my apartment faces elevated train tracks. I feel like I am in Kansas next to the local freight train when I am sleeping in during rush hour. If it wasn't for the drunks and prostitutes getting busy underneath those tracks, I might even be able to fantasize there are some cows back there... Hell, if it wasn't for all the condoms on the ground, I might mistake that sucking sound for some bovine feeding frenzy.

      Sometimes, the vomitting does sound like a big CO2 cow fart.

      It would be nice to at least *pretend* I am actually living on the 50th floor of a nice high rise, in a 5000 square foot condo, in my hot tub, with five hot ladies, instead of transvestite whores, staring out at the beautiful skyline I paid $1,000,000 to see...

      But, at least these sluts are only $20 a trick.

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    12. Re:You *want* a view of a city? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Fewer homes that look exactly like the one next to it except for the a slightly different shade of beige on the vinyl siding?

      Quick, call the Code Enforcement people! Someone has deviated from the official shade of beige!!

  4. This reminds me of the backdrops used on... by Real+World+Stuff · · Score: 1

    Late night TV Like David Letterman, Jay Leno, and
    Conan O'Brian. Not an original idea, but
    nice to see it in practice.

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    1. Re:This reminds me of the backdrops used on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A desktop 'Start' menu isn't an original idea, but all the /.'ers get hard-ons when Linux copies it from MS.

  5. what for? by Fletch · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    i thought it was kinda neat until i saw the size of the thing. my god, what a colossal waste of time.

  6. If I had one of these... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It would last about 5 minutes. Little kids find a little city just perfect for sight-seeing. The problem is that they like the godzillia view...

  7. Color by mr100percent · · Score: 1

    Nice work, impressive and well-thought out. Kudos for showing us the steps you took.

    One thing, you need some better color. For a second I thought it was real, then I noticed how black and white it was, and how all the windows were exactly the same size.

    Anybody know what other colors the lights should be? More yellow-ish?

    1. Re:Color by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The beauty of the New York skyline is that the colors of the lights vary slightly from building to building. In the case of the Empire State Building the lights change color based on the season - although I think they have been Red, White and Blue since 9/11.

  8. steps to avoid slashdotting by chris_mahan · · Score: 1

    Would there be any way for /. to have an indicator on the story heading to indicate that the site being linked in the story is currently slashdotted?

    And maybe keep track of the slashdot effect in terms of intensity and duration...

    I bet this would really help the poor souls out there whose sites are brought down by the barbaric hordes...

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    1. Re:steps to avoid slashdotting by blixel · · Score: 0, Redundant

      ...or, Slashdot could simply mirror these stories onto their own server for the first 12 - 24 hours or so using wget (or is that GNU/wget).

    2. Re:steps to avoid slashdotting by Andrewkov · · Score: 1

      This is off-topic, but a lot of sites would object to this since they get their revenue from banner advertising.

    3. Re:steps to avoid slashdotting by foniksonik · · Score: 2

      Best idea I've heard in a long while.

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    4. Re:steps to avoid slashdotting by BitHive · · Score: 1

      The periodical polling of the target site that this would require might just worsen the effect. Are we now too lazy just to click links and find out?

    5. Re:steps to avoid slashdotting by big_hairy_mama · · Score: 2

      Maybe you knew this, but the link is still #1 on the front page and the site is still able to completely fulfill my broadband investment, even with all the images.

      Guess it goes to show what plain old static HTML can do. Not too shabby for a personal homepage, either. Props for the awesome project!

    6. Re:steps to avoid slashdotting by FrostedWheat · · Score: 0

      Maybe we should have a similar system to the .robots file ... a .slashdot file that contains information set by the admin for the editors.

      "You may link, but warn me first so I can take down some of the large images."

    7. Re:steps to avoid slashdotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shouldn't be too hard without polling the other site, thus lessening the effect. Would slow slashdot down quite a bit, potentially.

      First, create a tracking system that catches all outbound clicks. Simple enough. Then just count them. Also, check (this would have to be on every page) IP addresses of visitors. You want to catch them when they click out on a story, then when they come back. That way you can decrement the total # of people who have gone to the story.

      Now, track the shit extensively over time and try to determine several levels of activity that bring down a site. Then show the site in relation to all of the levels. That way, some servers may not take the lowest threshold, but others can easily take much more (slashdot's servers, for example).

      Granted, it wouldn't be accurate, as is the nature with the protocols used. But it would be close enough for government work.

      Simple enough. Don't know perl, I could throw it together with ASP pretty easily.

    8. Re:steps to avoid slashdotting by chris_mahan · · Score: 1

      I like the idea mentioned above of the slashdot.txt file in the root. But that would be open to abuse.

      What there could be is an xml-rpc interface at slashdot and sites that are getting bombarded would simply notify /. that the link should be noted as such, or the pointer to the google cache shown.

      As far as tracking the clicks, I think it would be too heavy for /. too.

      Maybe the sites should make a subset of their log files where the referer was /. and make that available as slashdotlog.txt, for the long term examination of the slashdot effect.

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  9. Pretty friggin' cool, but by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. What ugly view did it cover up?

    and

    2. What did the neighbors build to keep from having to look at the back of the project?

    1. Re:Pretty friggin' cool, but by *xpenguin* · · Score: 1

      1. What ugly view did it cover up?

      Read the article.

      Previously the view only consisted of the backs of some tall bushes but did allow lots of sunlight to enter in the mornings.

    2. Re:Pretty friggin' cool, but by The+Dobber · · Score: 1

      Fake bushes with little animated birds and bunnies.

    3. Re:Pretty friggin' cool, but by pythorlh · · Score: 2

      If you read all of it, it tells you that the view was originally of the back of some large bushes. This means your answers are 1. Ugly brown sticks, and 2. Nothing. The neighbors still see the bushes.

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  10. Ha by cascino · · Score: 4, Funny

    The city lights also automatically turn on/off via an X10 cronjob on my home Linux server.
    Methinks they'll be off for awhile under once the /. effect's been unleashed on that poor server.

  11. This guy... by phillymjs · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...gets my vote for the "Too Much Time On His Hands Award of the Week."

    Bonus points for bringing a Slashdotting upon himself.

    ~Philly

    1. Re:This guy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, I think it's pretty cool. Creativity is something a lot of our society of MTV zombies lacks.

    2. Re:This guy... by maladroit · · Score: 3, Funny
      And also an award for 'Optimist of the Year'.

      From a page in the how-to:

      ... and conveniently the graphics startup I was working for was soon going to lay me off ...[emphasis added]

      I bet he sees a lot of glasses as half-full.

    3. Re:This guy... by DA_MAN_DA_MYTH · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well it's a sure fire way to test a server. I can see it know:

      Guy1: Hey can you help me. I need to load test the server.

      Guy2: Sorry I don't have the time. ( Jokingly ) Heh, why don't you submit your city line model to Slashdot, it's a pretty cool hack.

      Guy1: ( Thinking to himself) That's not a bad idea...

      The next morning...

      Guy2: (To Guy1) HEY IDIOT I DIDN'T THINK YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE ME SERIOUSLY!!!

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    4. Re:This guy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It kills me how you idiots think its cool that servers go down because your to lazy to get out of your chair and go do something productive. Granted he brought it on himself, but you people think its some kind of victory to kill a server once a link goes up. Quit gloating in glory that you don't have and go get a life!!!!

  12. Maybe they could... by PrimeWaveZ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Also have a setup where it would look like cars were in front of my house, put shadows in my windows, and have cron job play music on Friday and Saturday nights to make it look like I have a life. Now THAT would have to look convincing.

    1. Re:Maybe they could... by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1

      I think I saw something like that years ago on an episode of The Bloodhound Gang.

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    2. Re:Maybe they could... by JAVAC+THE+GREAT · · Score: 1

      Yes! They had cardboard cut-outs spinning around on electric trains and turntables with lamps behind them.

    3. Re:Maybe they could... by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1

      I knew I wasn't imagining that!

      That episode creeped me out and turned me off to the Bloodhound Gang... :-( Of course I was pretty young.

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    4. Re:Maybe they could... by JAVAC+THE+GREAT · · Score: 1
      Yeah, it must of creeped me out too in order to remember it at all. I vaguely remembered it when I read the original comment then after I followed your link and saw the '3-2-1 Contact' logo it at all clicked.

      It takes second place on the tv-shows-that-creeped-me-out-as-a-kid-o-meter after a G.I. Joe episode about a mind-control carwash or something..

    5. Re:Maybe they could... by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      *wtf face* They did that in that Home Alone film back in... what, 1990?

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    6. Re:Maybe they could... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dumbass kid, bloodhound gang is most likely a bit before your time.

    7. Re:Maybe they could... by nathanm · · Score: 2

      There was a scene like that in Home Alone. No computers required.

  13. Be careful, or you'll get what you wish for by BlackTriangle · · Score: 0

    I've lived in small towns and my mother owns vast tracts of land.

    It sucks.

    Stick with the city. It's where human life is. I know I am.

  14. PLEASE WIDEN THIS PAGE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hurry before it's too late!

  15. My Window? by Peridriga · · Score: 3, Funny

    My window is covered by a big black peice of fabric to block out light....

    What's so great about the outside...

    What day of the week is it?

    Weatherbug says it's really nice outside...

    Hmm... lemme check weather.com to see if it's gotten cloudy again so I can get my mail without getting sunburned....

    1. Re:My Window? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I enjoy your enflated self of self importance... put a URL up on slashdot, but exclude anyone who might be interested enough to look. Sounds like you have some control issues.

    2. Re:My Window? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yeah, WTF is it with that? And did you check out the asinine little message you get for the crime of trying to access the website he/she's publically advertising? "You have attempted to access a section of the website that you don't have the password for. Sorry... Nothing you can do about it... Get over it

      All failed attempts are logged. And the logs are screened. If you don't have the password, you don't have it."

      Here's a suggestion: if you don't want people to look at your site, DON'T GIVE OUT THE URL! Sheesh!

    3. Re:My Window? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      we could probably slashdot the front page with login attempts.

    4. Re:My Window? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's so great about the outside... Well, the graphics are pretty decent. I get really good frame rates at very high resolution.

  16. Big Freaking Deal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whhoppie. He figured out to get the lights blink on and off with a computer. What next, a miniature choo-choo train?

    Unless he clones little people (or little fat people if they're cloned /.ers) to run around in his city mugging each other and such I aint impressed.

    1. Re:Big Freaking Deal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jeez, lighten up, it's a pretty cool project. What have YOU done lately?

    2. Re:Big Freaking Deal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean other than masturbating?

  17. The text of the pages (combined and quite long) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    How to blow 5 months of your life.

    What is it?
    Approximately 7 feet past the window is a large (Your mother's been talking about me again has she?) single plane of wood with windows cut into it. The 7 x 11 foot plane of wood is actually two layers of wood with a ~1" air gap where xmas lights are mounted to light up the inside. The front plane is thin (1/8") and has the 1540 windows cut into it while the back plane of wood is 1/2" sheets of plywood. The xmas lights (about 700 lights) are mounted behind the front plane so that the light bounces off of the plywood (back plane) to scatter the light so that pinpoints of light are not visible. The models of the Empire State and Chrysler buildings consist of multiple layers in order to simulate the effect of having lights shining on their own roofs.
    Most of the display is painted in light grey latex paint for both weather-proofing and tinting of the light coming from the inside. However the front is painted dark grey to make it blend into the night sky above.

    How Did You Build It? - Background

    Last summer (summer of 2001) I thought of this idea to make the view out of our kitchen window more interesting. Previously the view only consisted of the backs of some tall bushes but did allow lots of sunlight to enter in the mornings. The bushes were approximately 10 feet away which provided ample room to be creative. Very near that time we saw a video for the song "This Isn't Maybe" by Waldeck on Mtv2 which had a model of a city outside a balcony. The buildings were swaying to the music... this provided an example of what such a thing might look like.
    Then America had a really bad Tuesday morning in September and all of my fond memories of New York City were resurrected. The cityscape project became much more interesting and conveniently the graphics startup I was working for was soon going to lay me off which meant lots of free time.

    I started looking into photos of NYC in detail.. noticing the perspective effects on windows and rooftops of skyscrapers. Part of me wanted to do a realistic model, but at the same time a surrealistic (idealistic?) (stylized?) approach was attractive. Then I found "the one" (see photo right).. a photo online of the view that I had in mind. I wanted a view of midtown Manhattan at the 40-60th floor level. Distant bridges and the street level would be even more difficult to simulate, so this photo conveniently and naturally occluded these troublesome features of the real NYC.

    From here on, I had a much more concrete idea of what I wanted to create.

    How To Design Your Own Cityscape
    1. Find A Photo

    Start by collecting photos of the city that you're interested in. Building details as well as overall city layout are important. The internet is a vast resource for this and I found lots of good pics at www.corbis.com . Find a photo that is at least close to the view you are looking for (see pic right). This is where you start your design.

    Then, using this picture or set of pictures as your basis, you'll want to tailor it to your needs. Some things that you'll want to look at are scale, size, perspective, and complicated details.

    Scale is important because you want to simulate the proper distance to the skyline. For example, if the model is too small, it will appear as if your house/apartment is too far away or too high up.

    When considering size, realize that as you approach your window, your field of view widens. So you actually need to make the city larger than the window if there is going to be any distance between the city and the window. Distance between the city and the window increases realism in two ways. When walking past the window, you want the city to shift in relation to the window frame just like it would with a real city view. This is a natural effect called parallax that your brain uses every day to judge distance. The other reason for placing the city out several feet, is to minimize your ability to use stereo vision to see the distance to an object. Human stereo vision is only effective to 12-18 feet.

    Perspective is the feature that will really sell your city as a realistic view. Notice top to bottom perspective as well as depth perspective. Top to bottom is pretty easy.. mount the city so that the average person's eye height is going to be level with the floors of windows that do not slope up or down. Mine is slightly off center top-to-bottom in order to fit more skyscrapers in, but it isn't obvious to most people. You'll need to make a judgement call on how much depth perspective to use. Was the original photo taken with a really wide angle lens?

    You will also want to choose a photo without complicated details or edit them out. If you're an expert model maker, then by all means build a Brooklyn Bridge. It would look fantastic! But the rest of us will probably want to tone down the complication. This project is going to be laborious enough as it is. Avoid street-level views because the streets of a city are usually very animated and a static street scene will look odd.

    How To Design Your Own Cityscape
    2. Edit Photo

    Use your favorite image editor (GIMP, Paintshop Pro, etc) and adapt your chosen photo to your needs. For example, I needed to make the sky black and experiment with placement of the Chrysler building. For a while, I was experimenting with placement of the Twin Towers closer to the foreground. And ultimately I inserted a building very close to our viewpoint for an added depth effect.

    I suggest that you do *all* of your experimentation on the computer. It takes way more time to re-carve out all those windows if you screw up on wood.
    With modern editing programs you can assign buildings to layers and easily move them around to get the arrangement just right. Make some features more obvious.. such as windows in the photo that aren't very clear. You'll need to use your eye and imagination to create any detail that may be missing from the photo. Notice that I added more floors below those featured in the original photograph.
    By creating a crude cardboard cutout of the city outline, I determined that I needed to model the lower floors for when my guests would approach the kitchen sink and look down.

    Finally, place a grid over your final design. I imported the image into AutoCAD, scaled it to be actual size, and then placed a grid of 2" x 2" lines over it. You'll use this grid to transition the design to wood.

    How To Design Your Own Cityscape
    3. Design Your Skyscrapers

    I learned the hard way that I could not create a good (detailed) model of a skyscraper without a very detailed design. The Empire State and Chrysler buildings have features lit up by flood lights on their exterior. You can't simulate that effect with windows. I started out making a prototype of the Empire and it turned out awful (see pic right).

    So I created a detailed design in Autocad and then printed out the design on 11x17 paper at full-scale. I could then cut out the various pieces of the Empire State from the paper and use them as stencils on the wood. Use 1/32" tolerances on everything for a much better fit. 1/16" turns out sloppy.

    Because of limited room in my skyscapers, I cut holes in the back support and inserted the xmas lights deep into these holes. I used particle board because I could cut holes for xmas lights much closer together in particle board whereas plywood would just splinter apart.

    Each skyscraper probably won't need a whole 50 or 100 lights, so if you take lights out of the strand, you'll need to insert a resistor so that the remaining lights don't burn brighter and burn out quickly. I've found that a string of 50 lights usually consumes about 10 Watts, so since I only needed 23 lights on the Empire State building, I removed the unneeded lights and inserted a 5 Watt 127 Ohm resistor.

    How To Design Your Own Cityscape
    4. Build A Small Prototype

    With this prototype, you will be testing paint colors, window sizes, some perspective, light placement, practice cutting the materials, and skyscraper details. I made my prototype to be approx 1 foot square and used some of the window sizes that I knew I would be using. In addition, it had the beginnings of an Empire State building on the top.

    Some of the things I learned from this: 1) Natural wood color would look very warm and artistic, but also looked a lot like a jack-o-lantern. 2) I could not build an Empire State building that looked good simply by free-hand drawing the pieces. Calculated CAD work was called for instead. 3) The smallest windows would need to be punched out because no jigsaw blade is small enough to cut out a 1/8" window.

    How To Design Your Own Cityscape
    5. Build Skyscrapers

    Your skyscrapers are going to bring a lot of detail to your model. So spend the time to make them look good. Your prototype gave you the opportunity to screw up all you wanted without it being the real deal. Notice the big difference on the photo to the left between when I was at the prototype stage and when it came time to make the Chrysler Building.

    My Chrysler and Empire State buildings needed to consist of several layers in order to simulate the effect of spotlights shining up on a building's rooftop. AutoCAD helped me immensely in deciding how the various layers were going to fit together. Then the best part was that with AutoCAD I could plot out my design in real world (1" = 1") scale and use it as a stencil.

    I didn't have room to fit the lights on the inside of the model, so I just cut holes in the support board and inserted the lights perpendicularly. But here, too, I needed to insert a resistor in the string of lights because I was only using half of the strand.

    How To Design Your Own Cityscape
    6. Build The Support Framework

    The framework is pretty easy.. If you're not expecting much wind, it only has to be a couple feet deep. You can use 2x4s and wood screws. Be sure to run the back supports up a significant portion of the back of the display. If your skyline has dips in it, you'll want to keep the framework from showing through. Once the city is built, just run 2" wood screws into the supporting 1/2" plywood back.

    The Cityscape Project

    7. Build The City

    7a. Draw Out The Design
    This step takes a surprisingly long time to complete. On a large flat surface, take your 1/8" hardboard 8' x 4' sheet and with pencil draw out the grid that you placed over your city design and label the rows/columns. Then begin drawing the window grids. You'll want to draw out an entire building's window grid using straight edges and then X out the windows that are going to be cut out. This keeps all your windows straight and even. Also draw out the skyline that will be exposed on the top. Mark everything clearly so that there are no mistakes with the jigsaw!

    7b. Cut Out Windows
    Another tedious task; place your hardboard sheet on sawhorses and begin by cutting out the unneeded skyline area. On small windows, you'll have to just drill one 1/4" hole in them and use the jigsaw blade to cut out the corners. On larger windows, drill two holes per window in opposite corners, then use the jigsaw to cut inside the lines. I went through 3 jigsaw blades very easily on the 1540 windows I had to cut out.

    7c. Draw And Cut Support Backing
    Place your 1/2" x 8'x4' plywood sheet on the sawhorses and then lay your cut out hardboard sheet on top. Trace the outline of the skyline onto the plywood and cut it out.

    7d. Glue On Trim And Spacers
    Now you need to measure, cut, and paste the trim pieces. The trim creates a gap between the hardboard layer and plywood layer where the lights can do their magic. Do all of the measuring and cutting before you begin gluing. Leave the bottom open for any water to drain out. Also place a trim piece (remember to cut notches out of it for later wiring) horizontally halfway up the display for support.
    You will also want to put 2"x2" spacers scattered through the design. These spacers will be the attachment points for the plywood support panel. With mine I used 1/4" x 1+3/8" trim and conveniently 3 2"x2" cuts of plywood stacked created the perfect 1+3/8" spacer. Glue everything well and use weights to make the various pieces of trim make good contact with the hardboard. This step isn't too time consuming compared to everything else. Don't use Elmer's Wood Glue, it will melt in the rain!

    7e. Paint Everything
    This takes forever. Paint the plywood backing and hardboard / trim pieces completely. You want to seal the wood from the elements outside. This means you need to paint the edges around each and every window. Ugh.. painful. A large (4") paintbrush works for most of the plywood, but the edges of the plywood and window panel needs a tiny brush and a 2" brush. I've found that it works best to paint a small area of the back side first, then move to the front to paint and clean the paint out of the corners of the windows and then move back to the back to touch up any runs back there.
    After the whole panel is painted, you may want a different color on the front of the display. An easy way to do this is to use a paint roller that has only a light amount of paint on it.

    7f. Mount Lights
    Place your hardboard/trim panel (frontside - down) on a flat surface and glue the lights to the back. Hot glue seems to work the best and is cheap but don't glue the actual bulbs down; you'll want to be able to replace the bulbs as they burn out. Try to keep the lighting even, although you might apply more for close buildings and less for far away buildings. Keep in mind any angle that the viewer will be at and hide the lights / wires from sight.

    Construction Tips
    I used 1/8" hardboard for the front panel, 1/4" x 1 3/8" door trim strips as spacers, and 1/2" plywood for the back support. The frame that holds this large thing upright and at the proper distance off of the ground is made of 2x4s. 1" countersunk screws connect the back support to spacers glued to the front hardboard panel.
    Laying out the design onto the hardboard is as tedious as cutting out the windows. Don't draw the windows free-hand. At least in my experience, the best looking windows are produced with measurement and proper angles. Remember that the windows on a building are usually very aligned and your eye picks up on this alignment very easily. The few windows that I tried to eye-ball or free-draw turned out much less acceptable. So usually you must draw out a grid of windows for each building and then "X" out the ones that are going to have lights on inside.

    Glue: don't use Elmer's Wood Glue since it melts in the rain. I've been using Franklin International's Titebond II weatherproof wood glue but haven't had a rainstorm to test its durability.

    Jigsaws: The Bosch 1587AVSP is a fantastic jigsaw. It's very balanced for a smooth cut and design features like the quick change blades are very handy as well. I used this saw for most of the project and while cutting out the windows I went through three 1/4" blades that cut on the up and down stroke.

    Some of the windows on far away buildings are too small to use a jigsaw. I ended up using a 1/8" screwdriver (like the ones used to repair eyeglasses) and a hammer to chisel out these windows.

    Collect your xmas lights during the xmas season. It's very difficult to find inexpensive xmas light strings off-season.

    If you have trouble with seeing the pinpoints of xmas light out of the windows of your skyscrapers, try covering the inside of your windows with wax paper. It will diffuse the light a bit.

    When designing the city, use a large piece of cardboard as a rough approximation for what you're thinking. Mount it to a light-weight frame and see if it looks like you imagined.
    TOTAL: $394.31

    Special Thanks To:
    These people helped the project out either with loaned/donated equipment, patience/understanding, or just plain cash.
    Dave and Mary
    Uncle Scott
    Mom and Dad
    Both Grandmas
    Dan, Stacey, and Rich

    Direct Access Index
    Intro
    What Is It?
    How Did You Build It? - Background
    How To Design Your Own.
    1. Find A Photo
    2. Edit The Photo
    3. Design Skyscrapers
    4. Build A Small Prototype
    5. Build Skyscrapers
    6. Build The Framework
    7. Build The City
    7a. Draw Out The Design
    7b. Cut Out Windows
    7c. Draw And Cut Support Backing
    7d. Glue On Trim And Spacers
    7e. Paint Everything
    7f. Mount Lights
    Construction Tips
    Equipment List / Cost

    © 2002 Ryan Hoagland

  18. What about a plasma? by chris_mahan · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I wonder who's going to come up with the idea of making a cover for a 40 in plasma screen that simulates a window and have a stationary webcam hooked up to it... That way, the office lights on the 17th floor turn on to follow the janitors.
    And no need to break out the jigsaw when another buiding goes up.

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    "Piter, too, is dead."

    1. Re:What about a plasma? by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Funny

      Heh. Neat idea, but I prefer his approach. The nice thing about his is that it is stereoscopic. It's easier to settle into the illusion because even at a distance, the Plasma Screen will be noticable.

      However, what I really do like about your idea is that I could play with different ideas, like have stars streaking by like my house is at warp. I know, that's pretty geeky, but it'd be a fun project. :)

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    2. Re:What about a plasma? by chris_mahan · · Score: 1

      Yes, play the warp sequence in 2001 space odyssey over and over... with the sound of the SETI recording playing very loud in the 8 speaker system... Geek!

      --

      "Piter, too, is dead."

    3. Re:What about a plasma? by cluke · · Score: 0

      Yeah! Imagine the fun when you had someone over... and asking them to open the curtains and look out! They'd crap themselves! ;-)

  19. Re:no WTC Towers... by Fantanicity · · Score: 1
    For example, I needed to make the sky black and experiment with placement of the Chrysler building. For a while, I was experimenting with placement of the Twin Towers closer to the foreground. And ultimately I inserted a building very close to our viewpoint for an added depth effect.
    So they might be there, just not where you expect them to be.
  20. Fake Manhattan by tcd004 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do you charge $11.95 for tiny grilled chese sandwichs in your kitchen now?s

    Buy your fav baseball player's steroid-merchandise!

  21. better inside view.. by Black_Logic · · Score: 1

    Pretty cool looking, I think it's a shame that the 'cityscape' isn't visible from the 'bay window beside the dining table' (hypothetical, I haven't been in this man's house. :)
    The view is a little less impressive coming from the inside of a homely looking kitchen window. (No disrespect!, I'm currently living at home with my mother after losing my job in the i-net/.com debacle, So I guess I don't have room to talk about living in a classy place :)

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    Ansi's and stupid tricks!
  22. Perverted Comment by Kyeo · · Score: 1

    Cronjob. That sounds so dirty.

    1. Re:Perverted Comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's cr0njob. Do you need to be told where the cr0n fits?

  23. would be cooler if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    you added Godzilla rampaging through...

    1. Re:would be cooler if... by RadioheadKid · · Score: 1

      And don't forget Spiderman and the Green Goblin battling off in the distance too!

      --
      "Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos." -Homer Simpson
    2. Re:would be cooler if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and the planes crashing into the WTC. Oops, that was real.

    3. Re:would be cooler if... by Strandman · · Score: 1

      Or picture of your stephmom begging to be let back in.

  24. Nice..... by tiwason · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm glad folks take the time to document these projects so nicely...

    I always imagine nothing will come out right and no one would want to look at anything i do....

    1. Re:Nice..... by bojan · · Score: 1

      I know, a site dedicated to human-individual-projects would surely kick ass.

      It's too bad slashdot community seems to have swelled with peopel who do nothing but put down those who actually do something with their time.

      The guy was bothered by somethign, and did something about it. Then you read slashdot and read things like "he had too much time on his hands". Not necceserly, he might just not be spending his time wasting it on reruns of star wars, the most useless way to spend one's time.

  25. King Kong by r00tarded · · Score: 0, Redundant

    well the /. effect is going to pull a "King Kong" on your webserver.

  26. how about during the day? by jest3r · · Score: 0

    during the day it must look pretty strange out there .. i think i would rather build a small patio or deck .. or move to the city ..

  27. Realism? by ludey · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Well you should light that ESB up red white and blue like they do here for real. In honor of our fallen 9/11 heroes. If you're REALLY into it you can turn it off at 11:59 pm every night like they do as well.

    BTW 10 karma points to anyone who could give me an exact location as to where that view would be from!

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    David O.
    1. Re:Realism? by HughsOnFirst · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The view is on Park Avenue looking south, somewhere in the low to mid Fifties, on the east side of the street.

    2. Re:Realism? by alien_tracking_devic · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can't see the Chrysler Bldg from that point on Park. The Met Life bldg blocks your view, as do all of the other tall bldg's along Lexington Ave north of the Chrysler. I seems a view like that would only come from an upper floor in a bldg on a side street between Lexington and Park.

    3. Re:Realism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Well that's what I meant by the east side of Park Avenue. The right hand side of the view is taken from the picture on the right hand side of http://www.hoagy.org/cityscape/background.html I think I may have been to a party in the spot where the photo the view is based on was taken. There is a condo in a pretty tall building at around 57th street. Notice you can see almost to street level of the building on the west side of Park Avenue with the multiple setbacks. I'm pretty sure you would be able to look straight down on the avenue there. There is a big black area that is the top of a building on the east side of Park Avenue. Maybe I'll take a walk over there this weekend. I know I recognize the building with all the setbacks The photo is from at least 30 floors up, probably more. The upper left hand side of the model is pretty much made up from the imagination. The Chrysler building is too short and close for one thing.

      Anyway the "Met Life" building ( I still call it the Pan Am building ) straddles Park Avenue and in both the photo and the model you can see it and the silhouette of the New York Central building (some people refer to it as the Helmsley Building ) in front of it, right about where you would expect to see them from the east side of Park Avenue.

    4. Re:Realism? by bigfatlamer · · Score: 1

      If you go to this page, you'll notice that he took a stock photo from Corbis as the basis of his model (probably taken from where you suggest) and then Photosop/GIMP-ed in the Chrysler Bldg, WTC (which seem to have been removed from the final version) and then added an imaginary building in the foreground to increase depth-of-field.

      Really cool project, even if he'd completely made the whole skyline up.

      --
      There's one thing computing teaches you, and that's that there's no point to remembering everything.
      --Doug Copland
  28. Xmas lights? Why not LEDs? by nadaou · · Score: 3, Informative

    Seems wasteful, expensive, hazardous to do all of this with 700 Xmas lights. Why not use LEDs?

    mA on the dollar.

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    ~.~
    I'm a peripheral visionary.
    1. Re:Xmas lights? Why not LEDs? by jCaT · · Score: 3, Insightful

      700 xmas lights: about $30

      700 white LED's: about $2100

      And 700 xmas lights are hardly hazardous; we had over 1500 of them in our dorm room. It was just right

    2. Re:Xmas lights? Why not LEDs? by nadaou · · Score: 3, Informative

      > 700 white LED's: about $2100

      No one says you have to use high output white LEDs.
      1,000 amber LEDs from DigiKey: $122.23, p/n P365-ND. Or about $85 for 700 if you can move the other 300.

      > we had over 1500 of them in our dorm room.

      overly simplified:
      60mW * 700 LEDs => 42 watts.
      5w * 700 bulbs => 3,500 watts. (if only 1/2w bulbs, still 350w)

      It the real world, you have to pay (directly) for power. If you spent five months putting the skyline together, I'd assume you would be in it for the longer term; recurrent power bill negates higher initial layout.

      > And 700 xmas lights are hardly hazardous

      700 hand wired bulbs on a 110v line (solder*1400 chances to fuck up) vs. the 5v line off an old PC power supply...

      well, the main danger with xmas lights of course is when they are bunched up over dried out xmas trees. Ask your local fire dept how many family homes go poof! every mid-jan. Of course this doesn't apply, and it is outside with lots of ventalation, but a munching squirrel could conceivably burn down the city in a raging holocaust.

      Not to mention the 3 year upgrade cycle the bulbs introduce into the TCO.. ;)

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      ~.~
      I'm a peripheral visionary.
    3. Re:Xmas lights? Why not LEDs? by bojan · · Score: 1

      if what you describe happens so often every mid-Jan, then there's obviously some sort of regulatory issue being overlooked...

  29. The 80's future version: Back to the Future Pt. 2 by PrimeWaveZ · · Score: 1

    Remember in BTTF 2, the "Scene Screen" or whatever that was in the McFly's living room of 2015 that was tuned to the Scenery Channel? I might buy one of those, and it would look a lot better from the outside. Let's see this guy take some business initiative and crank something good out!

  30. Slashdotting? by xamel · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    404 File Not Found
    The requested URL (articles/02/06/06/1847216.shtml?tid=133) was not found.

    If you feel like it, mail the url, and where ya came from to pater@slashdot.org.


    ....

    Did we just /. Slashdot?

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    GOD DAMNIT , MODERATE ME!
  31. Why? by jackyl_meoff · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    What is outside your kitchen window without the model? Reality? Get some exercise, fatty fat mcfat.

  32. Free Beer and Co-eds gone Wild in my window... by puto · · Score: 1

    Well, my city scape would be the free beer truck pulling up to my driveway, the girls gone wild partying in my front yard, and the cops hauling off the asshole neighbor I have who always wants to tell me about his work for the 'cia' investigating Intel amd their link to the former USSR(This ain't no lie, his day job is locksmith).
    <p>
    Oh yeah, and before I forget 50 foot Penguin scaring the shit outta all the Windows users I have to support on a daily basis. Life would then be good.
    <p>

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    The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
  33. Enough of the negativity!! by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    C'mon guys, he did something artistic to his place that's kinda cool. I'm seriously disappointed with the negativity that I have read so far.

    "Oh it's unoriginal because it's done on the news" -- Amusing logic considering that a news station can hire a crew of professionals to build something like that.

    "Waste of time!" -- Yah, like there aren't people out there who think posting stupid comments like that on Slashdot isn't a waste of time. Never mind that he did it during a period of unemployment. I'll tell you something, I know a few people who got laid off in the last year or two, and they turned into total bums during that period. Frankly, I think it's cool that somebody used his artistic skill to improve his living conditions instead of sitting around, playing Quake, and behaving as if the world shit on him/her.

    Before you make your negative post about what this guy did, ask yourself: What independent project have YOU taken on? Did you do anything remotely as ambitious? Did you release information about how you did it?

    Consider this: When you say "this isn't original because something like that's been done before...", how much did you oversimplify your idea before you came to that conclusion? There was a post earlier that said "Nothing new, they do this on the news all the time." To make a comment like that, they had to filter out conditions like 'News stations pay extra money for stuff like that to appear local.' and "It's an uncommon thing for home-owners to do something like that." That's a lot of information to throw out, and what is the benefit? "Oh, I'm unimpressed. That makes me sound like I've seen more than most people."

    When somebody works to create something like that, it really hurts to have people not like it because they're unwilling to put more than a moment's thought into it.

    --
    "Derp de derp."
    1. Re:Enough of the negativity!! by jackyl_meoff · · Score: 0, Troll

      Dude, when you cut trees down they scream.

    2. Re:Enough of the negativity!! by quantaman · · Score: 2

      I for one am very impressed. If not for just the project that he completed but the fact that he has somehow managed to keep his server up. I didn't think it was even theoretically possible one a home sever to stand up to the /. effect, much less do so while quickly loading large jpegs!!

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      I stole this Sig
    3. Re:Enough of the negativity!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I first saw the story I thought "how gay!" (not to be confused with any sort of sexual orientation)

      After seeing how complicated the thing is... damn! (but in a good way)

    4. Re:Enough of the negativity!! by dimator · · Score: 2, Funny

      I know a few people who got laid off in the last year or two, and they turned into total bums during that period.

      Are you implying that is a bad thing? Its my dream! (except for the no money part)

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    5. Re:Enough of the negativity!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      1. "Waste of time!" -- Yah, like there aren't people out there who think posting stupid comments like that on Slashdot isn't a waste of time. Never mind that he did it during a period of unemployment. I'll tell you something, I know a few people who got laid off in the last year or two, and they turned into total bums during that period. Frankly, I think it's cool that somebody used his artistic skill to improve his living conditions instead of sitting around, playing Quake, and behaving as if the world shit on him/her.

      There was a unix admin that I worked with at a nameless fortune 500 company that got fired a few weeks ago because of the economic times we're going through. His wife left him cause he lost his job ... instead of building something to take his mind off it all he drove out to the desert and shot himself.

      There are worse things you can do with time on your hands...

    6. Re:Enough of the negativity!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Maybe he would have had better luck at a company with a name. I hear that having a name is pretty important when it comes to bringing in revenue.

    7. Re:Enough of the negativity!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "His wife left him cause he lost his job ... he drove out to the desert and shot himself. "

      Damn... That's awful!

      I apologize if I brought up a bad memory for you.

    8. Re:Enough of the negativity!! by oni · · Score: 2

      Oh, I'm unimpressed.

      For some reason geeks have a bad habit of criticizing everything. It goes with the culture. See definition 4 of this entry in the jargon file for more information.

      My favorite example of this is: whenever I explain *anything* that I've done to a coworker, the first thing they always say is "Why don't you just..."

      Yes, that's just the way geeks are. I'm waiting for Katz to pick up on this!

    9. Re:Enough of the negativity!! by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      the first thing they always say is "Why don't you just..."

      The worst part is when they pick the most obvious, first thing you thought of... as if you're a moron! They never stop and think "Hmm he probably already thought of that and found a problem.". Instead, they try to roll it up into a ball of mud and sling it at ya.

      There is a sizable chunk of the Slashdot population (that ever responded to my posts...) that I wish would learn some etiquette. Is it really that hard to phrase it like this:

      "Did you try doing this?" Instead of "WTF didn't you do it this way? God, you must be thick!".

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    10. Re:Enough of the negativity!! by oni · · Score: 1

      Instead, they try to roll it up into a ball of mud and sling it at ya.

      Try not to get upset over it. It's just part of the culture. This is how geeks establish pecking order etc. I'd rather be part of a group where the one-upmanship games involve intelligence than a group where they involve traditional yet far less redeeming pursuits.

      My suggestion to you is to respond with something like: "You will learn my young apprentice" Everyone else will laugh and you'll find that eventually it will shut them up.

    11. Re:Enough of the negativity!! by FurryFeet · · Score: 2

      Not trolling:
      As a geek, I hang out with a few other geeks, but most of my interactions are with more normal people. When they come to me with a problem, I have learned to start by the "Have you tried [most obvious solution]yet?" and work my way up, because an amazingly surprising amount of times they haven't tried what I thought was obvious. Is the "did you turn on your monitor?" syndrome.
      It's not self-sufficiency, it's an acknowledgment that even the best of them sometimes forget the obvious, and that troubleshooting starts from the simplest. And, in many cases, they don't really know if your just another luser in need of a LART-inflinged lesson....

    12. Re:Enough of the negativity!! by CovertSquirrels · · Score: 1

      I completely agree. Most of the stuff I do in my spare time would be considered a waste of it by most mortal's standards. I do, however, agree with the angry mob that it was a dense move getting it posted on Slashdot.

    13. Re:Enough of the negativity!! by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      Hmmm I probably wasn't very clear, my apologies. I don't mind when ppl suggest obvious stuff, it's when they suggest it, assume it's the right answer, and then treat you like you're a moron over it.

      I had a guy call me a twit the other day because I said Slashdot doesn't parse posts. I thought it didn't, but there was something I failed to notice: When somebody creates a hyperlink, you can see the domain name added after it. Oops!

      I made the mistake because I post quite a bit on other forums. VBulletin, for example, automatically parses http lines and makes them into hyperlinks. Simple mistake! One guy didn't think so, though. "You are so a twit." Was the response I got.

      Was that necessary? Nope. He could have been polite. He could have said "Actually, /. does parse posts, you can tell because..." and I would have agreed that he's right and all's well.

      I am soooooooooooooooo sick of that.

      I'm happy, though. Everybody who's responded to this thread has been quite polite and it is *very much* appreciated. :)

      --
      "Derp de derp."
  34. NYC skyline wallpaper mural by minesweeper · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Why not try doing what this guy did? (Not me, btw).

    He put up a wallpaper mural in his living room. Seems like a lot less work, and it still looks pretty cool.

  35. we built this city... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just watch out for the alligators.

  36. The city lights turn off.... by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Funny

    The city lights also automatically turn on/off via an X10 cronjob on my home Linux server

    You know what? Tell your X10 cronjob to take a break. I think we're gonna turn off your lights for you tonight... no no, don't thank us. It's our pleasure.

    .... in fact, you don't really have much of a choice now, do you :)

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    "Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
    1. Re:The city lights turn off.... by Ziviyr · · Score: 1

      Actually there are these little X10 sensor things that can send on off synced to the sun without the need for computers and computer interfaces and fancy X10 driving software and so forth.

      --

      Someone set us up the bomb, so shine we are!
    2. Re:The city lights turn off.... by BagOBones · · Score: 2

      My question is why even bother with X-10 when you can get a cheap out door light timer with a light sensor?

      --
      EA David Gardner -"... but the consumers have proven that actually what they want is fun."
    3. Re:The city lights turn off.... by nathanm · · Score: 2

      Pure geek value. Also, he could control them from anywhere with internet access, and prove it with a webcam.

    4. Re:The city lights turn off.... by moitz · · Score: 1
      The city lights also automatically turn on/off via an X10 cronjob on my home Linux server

      You know what? Tell your X10 cronjob to take a break. I think we're gonna turn off your lights for you tonight... no no, don't thank us. It's our pleasure.

      I thought Manhattan was in New York, not California....

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      Screw 'em...who cares what anyone thinks.
  37. Re:no WTC Towers... by ludey · · Score: 1

    Are we at the point where we can make jokes about this? I'm currently 3 blocks from the hole and I don't find this funny. :\

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  38. Load Testing: Slashdot Style! by DA_MAN_DA_MYTH · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Well it's a sure fire way to test a server. I can see it now:

    Guy1: Hey can you help me. I need to load test the server.

    Guy2: Sorry I don't have the time. ( Jokingly ) Heh, why don't you submit your city line model to Slashdot, it's a pretty cool hack.

    Guy1: Hey thanks, (Thinking to himself) That's not a bad idea...

    The next morning...

    Guy2: (To Guy1) HEY IDIOT I DIDN'T THINK YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE ME SERIOUSLY!!!

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  39. It's not the skyline... by norweigiantroll · · Score: 0

    It's the ceilingline...

  40. Build your own talk show backdrop! (tm) by billcopc · · Score: 1

    David Letterman had better watch out, we're going to replace him with another clown sitting in front of another city backdrop, and we'll throw in Hanson to replace Paul Schaffer.

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    1. Re:Build your own talk show backdrop! (tm) by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1

      Mmmm... Bop...

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  41. mod parent up ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    funny funny shit... wish I had some karma to give.

  42. Not any more by nihilogos · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, if that site is also hosted on his "home linux server" then it wont be running any cron jobs for a little while.

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    1. Re:Not any more by Ziviyr · · Score: 2

      Introducing task priorities, or whatever Linux calls them. Thats right, you can now have stuff that wants to use all available CPU run without severely impacting other stuff, unless the scheduler is whacked, or something, dude.

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  43. There is another good reason... by Bakajin · · Score: 5, Funny


    Another good reason for news agencies (or anyone) to use a fake backdrop is so they don't get views like this.

    1. Re:There is another good reason... by charliem · · Score: 1

      think i preferred the sanitised version...

    2. Re:There is another good reason... by saden1 · · Score: 1

      that's fucking sick!

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  44. A couple of points by mosch · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Firstly, that site seems to be getting slashdotted, so here's a mirror.

    Secondly, to the people who say it's a waste of time, there are those who would say that posting on slashdot is a waste of time, yet you clearly enjoy it. Leisure is incredibly important, yet far too many people do anything other than sit on their couches, and watch TV. This, to me, is a really interesting artistic project, not only improving the view, but also improving the soul.

    Thanks for sharing your project with the world!

  45. news for nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    stuff that matters

  46. Life in "The Hive". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Right out of Resident Evil (the movie), as soon as I saw the pic, I thought; How many stories below ground do they live? =)

    .:[MiE-g0nk]:.

  47. Great job Hoagy! by maddugan · · Score: 1

    Good thing I saw the site before it was posted. Maybe adding a superhero swinging between the building would be a nice touch. :)

  48. Re:no WTC Towers... by farnsworth · · Score: 1
    ...I guess model planes can get hijacked as well.

    agreed, this is not funny. I worked in the wtc (north tower, 9*th floor) and I know many, many people that died (instantly, I hope).

    the shitheadery that you demonstrate is currently the bane of my existance.

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  49. extra decorations by Alien54 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Late night TV Like David Letterman, Jay Leno, and Conan O'Brian. Not an original idea, but nice to see it in practice.

    What he needs now is something like a small model airplane or a ufo to go across every once in a while. or maybe a monorail or other futurama type decoration.

    Or cutouts from magazines of small people to put into the windows of the sky scrapers. all kinds of little details that make it come alive.

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    1. Re:extra decorations by charliem · · Score: 1

      He should have used lego. That stuff is the sh#t.

    2. Re:extra decorations by Alsee · · Score: 3, Funny

      What he needs now is something like a small model airplane ... go across every once in a while

      Well, it *is* model of midtown Manhattan, it'll take some fancy work to have the plane vanish in a fireball every once in a while without damaging the model.

      P.S.
      Before anyone flames me for my sense of humor, I live near NYC and the fighter jets that orbit the city fly right over my house. I even witnessed a pair of fighters zoom in on a passenger jet, one at point-blank range, and escort it to the airport. Freaky.

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    3. Re:extra decorations by Slugsta · · Score: 0
      What he needs now is something like a small model airplane.

      Oh yeah, thats exactly what he needs in New York.... Airplanes flying around buildings.

  50. cron job? by mech9t8 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Pretty damn neat. ;)

    But I'm wondering what exactly the cron job does... is it just a highly complex substitute for a light timer, or does it do things like turn off lights in sequence or something?

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    1. Re:cron job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cron is a UNIX daemon that schedules scripts to be run at certain dates/times/etc.

  51. Lamers by octane097 · · Score: 0

    Some serious lamers replying to this. This is really awesome, much respect to Hoagy for doing this. Its beautiful and creative.

    I don't see anyone calling CmdrTaco names or telling him he has too much time on his hands for building an arcade cabinet (link)

  52. Re:no WTC Towers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well fuck you then.

  53. how does the cron job work? by eshaft · · Score: 1

    exactly how does the cron job make the lights turn on and off? i didn't see it in the tutorial.

    otherwise, cool.

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    1. Re:how does the cron job work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use the firecracker x10 transmitter with a peice of software called bottlerocket (linux). You pass bottlerocket the devicenumber and what you want it to do (on/off/etc...) and it does it. I have my linux box look at the printer spool and turn the printer on and off like that.

  54. Re:My Window? OT reply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aluminum foil works better. When I was working the night shift, I covered all 5 of the windows in my room with aluminum foil. It worked fantastically. With the AC cranked, in the middle of a summer day, my room stayed pitch black and about 60 degrees.

  55. Innovation.. by lionchild · · Score: 1

    I have to admit, the basic ideas of doing it, reguardless of what you want to look at, is quite innovative for home use. I'm sitting here in my basement pondering to myself, 'Hey, is this something I could do in the little window wells I have down here?'

    While I might not choose a cityscape to gaze up at in my tiny window down here, I'm sure about anything is better than looking up at my neighbors house!

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  56. I don't care what you people say.... by moniker_21 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    this is just one of the coolest hacks I've seen in a long long time. Besides the fact that he designed it in a cad program, you actually (well, I do at least) get the feeling that I'm looking out of an apartment window many many stories up. What an unbelievable feeling! Kudos to this guy for "thinking outside the box" and doing something really new and cool!

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    1. Re:I don't care what you people say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm, the question is, why would you want to have a view like that? I'd rather have a view of a nice starlit sky or an empty yard. I'm sick of my skyline view.

    2. Re:I don't care what you people say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. I want the guy to build me such a thing!

  57. Re:no WTC Towers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are we at the point where we can make jokes about this?

    Yeah, we're pretty much there, I'd say.

    If not, the terrorists have won.

  58. WTF by jackyl_meoff · · Score: 0

    Why the fuck am I just seeing sunjuects instead of fucking comments? Registering is over-motherfucking-rated.

  59. Hrmm... by T3kno · · Score: 2, Funny

    Would it be in bad tase for the kid next door to fly his model airplanes into this?

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    1. Re:Hrmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. And your joke is in perfectly good form, too. Asshole.

    2. Re:Hrmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would it be in bad taste to jokingly refer to the 9/11 attacks?

    3. Re:Hrmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's bad tase?

  60. Very Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one think this is very cool, and its amazing how much work this guy put into this. Great job man! Howevery, I have one tiny suggestion. Get rid of the blinds on the window. Since you've blocked off outside light, no need for blinds. And its such nice work, let the whole window be filled up with it instead of having the blinds at the top. (Not trying to be negative at all, this is totally sweet work this guy did! Great job!)

  61. Re:This made it on /. ?????????? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yep, i'd say your skewed alright.

  62. Rain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this thing still work after it rains ?! Looks like a few bad storms could break it real good and proper.

  63. Wasn't this in a music video? by Eric+Savage · · Score: 1

    I thought I saw a music video on unplugged or amp where they guy did this and they girl he had over to show it off to tipped a building over or something.

    Regardless of its origins, its a hell of alot cooler than the nasty grass and 8-month-dead marigold I have in the flowerbox outside my kitchen window.

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  64. cityscape by sar-fu · · Score: 1

    Having this view is proof that you are hardcore bridge and tunnel. The only people who have this view are from brooklyn,queens or new jersey. The view to have in manhattan is of central park and you won't have it for under 10 million.

  65. OT: "Nice hack job" by Uberminky · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I don't want to be yet another annoying loser on this site (hah!), but.. Yes, usage of words change, and all of that. But when I hear most people use the term "hack job", it is usually meant in a derogatory manner. I myself use it all the time: "It's finished, but it's a real hack." By that I don't mean "It's really cool and geeky", rather I mean "It's a piece of crap but it was cheap and fast and it does the job".

    It doesn't necessarily float MY boat, but this guy seems to have put together a pretty cool little project that he's clearly proud of. I congratulate him, and thank him for his contribution. But I think the word "hack" (used by the editor) is extremely overused on this site, and at the risk of sounding like a pedant and inviting the hoards of /.ers to pick every nit in my post, this seemed like a downright incorrect usage to me. "Nice hack job"... I'd rather have insightful commentary than me-too jargon slinging and elitism. "Cool hack" would have been more appropriate, but even then the term "hack" (in this sense) grows so tiresome.

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    1. Re:OT: "Nice hack job" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, you are being a pedant. And wrong. In this context (you do realize you're posting on Slashdot don't you?) a "hack" is what a "hacker" does, and we all know hacking is creative....

      But you knew that, right?

  66. While You're At It by limekiller4 · · Score: 1

    He picked a crappy view if you ask me. I mean, if you can pick anything you want, wouldn't you build a view from the top?

    Heck, mine would be a view out of the window of the ISS. Hm. That might get a bit expensive, though...

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  67. goog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    gaag

  68. Re:Uhh.. yeah by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    If you read the page, it says that's where he got the idea

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  69. I was going to do some thing like thiss too ... by axelbaker · · Score: 1

    I have a room with a view of a garage, I was going to install a light box with a transparency of some thing interesting. I haven't decided what yet. But this is really a cool idea I wish I had clearance behind the window for some thing like it.. It would also be cool if some how the lights changed, like some turning on and off at random to simulate people.
    Over all, very cool!

  70. And during the day... by Nathdot · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...you got yourself one fucking ugly view of cardboard cut-outs!!! Way to go.

    :)

  71. Not that anyone will ever read this, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree. Hats off to the guy, he did an awsome job.

  72. Slashdot is a pro-terrorism site! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have no right posting here if you don't hate America. After all, just ask a filthy subhuman Muslim what their fucking problem is and they'll always blame someone else. Al Qaeda blames the America, Palestinians blame Israel, Pakistan blames India. The 'sons of allah' *spit* would NEVER even deign to think that maybe they're at fault.

    Right now, Taco is running a reverse DNS lookup on your pasty white American-sympathising ass and will be sending the ragheads round to destroy you. Are you proud?

  73. What a pack of deadshits you guys are :( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF is wrong with you guys?!? Huh?

    Here we have something totally /fun/ and /cool/ and /kitchy/, a project which deserves a helluva lot more kudos than it's getting here, and all I've read so far are negative comments ("Oh that's so unoriginal", "The lights should be more yellow"), or at best, indifference.

    Stop being such a pack freaking sour nerds, and get a bit of bloody spark into yourselves!

    I've had a pretty dreary day so far, and reading this is the first thing that has put a smile on my face so far :) I wish I had more stuff like that that I could show off to my friends.

  74. Ummm, about that cronjob... by Misuta+Supakulo · · Score: 1

    Isn't that a bit overkill tech-wise for a task that could probably be performed by a cheap programmable timer (such as this one, for 9 bucks)? Especially since low tech programmable timers tend not to be vulnerable to slashdotting.

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    1. Re:Ummm, about that cronjob... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Dude, that's not the point. The point is that he can do it, and has done something in the true hacker tradition (in the noble sense of the word).

    2. Re:Ummm, about that cronjob... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, and if it didn't involve a computer or X10 in some way it wouldn't have gotten onto Slashdot! Otherwise it is just some white trash yard decoration. I'm sure his neighbors must LOVE him. This reminds me of that guy with the hick neighbor who wrote an entire history of him since he moved into the guy's new development and turned his house into utter shit... like trying to build a chickenwire fence around the entire yard (including the front).

    3. Re:Ummm, about that cronjob... by discstickers · · Score: 1

      Until someone figures out how to run a webserver off of it.

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  75. TrailerScape by l810c · · Score: 2, Funny
    I'm going to do something similar. Here's the photo I'm startin wit.

    TrailerScape

    1. Re:TrailerScape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That one will be easy, just remove your curtains.

  76. Re:Uhh.. yeah by Eric+Savage · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah, right there on the third page. Maybe I shouldn't post after midnight...

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  77. This is amazing. by B0bRoy · · Score: 0

    I'm impressed of this guy. I wish I had the space to do something simular at home. From my window all I can see is the bottom of a cliff about 30 feet away. So this would be perfect at my place. But I'll guess I would prefer something with blue sky and the sun shining. This way I would be the only guy in Norway waking up to sunshine every morning.

  78. Crash And Burn by Y2K+is+bogus · · Score: 1

    But the windows aren't lighting up to say "Crash and Burn"!

    :)

  79. Re:no WTC Towers... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2, Informative
    Yes. Yes we are at the point where we can make jokes about this. We were at that point on September 12th, 2001.


    What makes you think we should all go around in black armbands becauses your country got attacked? The USA has been funding and supporting terrorism all over the world, including the UK (you know, the people who saved your arses in the Gulf and in Afghanistan?), but when the terrorists hit the US with *one* attack you get all precious about it.


    No wonder you get so little sympathy.

  80. Old Looney Tunes Trick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Bugs Bunny did this years ago by nailing a picture of an island up to the side of a ship luring the entire crew to jump overboard to try to get to it :).

  81. Equipment list..... by echucker · · Score: 2, Funny

    box cutter (already had)

    Hmm, terrorist in training?

  82. You *want* a view of the country? by nounderscores · · Score: 1

    No reason why you cant have it: just watch out for all those warring minatures

  83. Been done before! by cluke · · Score: 1

    Hitchcock had a detailed model of the New York skyline (with lights) constructed for his movie Rope which was entirely studio based, and shot in 'real-time'. The lights came on along with a fake sunset.
    His cameo (he did one in most of his films) took the form of a Neon sign in the shape of his face!!

  84. Re:no WTC Towers... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1, Informative
    I am not afraid to say it, we will conquer all your asses either via the $ or the gun. And you will be better for it. Pax Americana baby!


    No, you won't. You'll build your own Iron Curtain around the USA, and hide from the evil terrorists outside. Look at yourselves now - your government has banned you from travelling to, or trading with Cuba. How can you say you're free?


    Your idiotic governments keep getting you tangled up in wars that you should stay out of. Oh, there isn't a war on just now? Let's start one! It's funny how all your wars seem to have something to do with wealthy, oil-producing countries.

  85. Good but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Put some lights below so it looks like streetlights are emanating from the street level.

    It took me a little while to figure out why that was odd.

  86. Re:no WTC Towers... by twistedonion · · Score: 1, Informative
    When the hell has the U.S. state sponsored terrorism in the U.K.?

    Throughout the 70's and 80's, possibly even into the nineties - remember NORAID, I don't remember the USA stopping the bank accounts of NORAID members. America has, until recently, always backed the Republican cause (which would be fine if it wasn't so entwined with Terrorism).

    In Northern Ireland we deal with Terrorism every day (the past weekend has been a nightmare with shootings just two minutes walk from me), and I don't see America coming down on the IRA, UVF, UFF etc.

    Forget the past, it's irrelevant - America and the UK both share plenty of blame for what's going on in the world.

    Has no-one asked the question 'why do they hate us so much', instead of just seeking retribution.

  87. Reminds me of wall pictures on ST:TNG by dpilot · · Score: 1

    The crew quarters had astronomical and such pictures on the walls. I'd *love* to ship out on the Enterprise, but I expect I'd have nature scenes on my walls. If I wanted to see astronomy, I'd look out a window/porthole or viewscreen.

    I suspect everyone wants a view of what they can't easily have.

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  88. Re:no WTC Towers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Has no-one asked the question 'why do they hate us so much', instead of just seeking retribution.

    Certainly people have asked that question, but whatever it is that they hate, we should by no means change it. It's surprising to see how many in the UK have not yet learned the lesson of Neville Chamberlain. Appeasement is not the way to eliminate hate from the world. Quite the opposite, the surest way to provoke more terrorist attacks would be to give these terrorists any part of what they want.

  89. slide show of same by denny_d · · Score: 1

    put a screen in front of your window
    point the projector at the front or back (depending on your space and angle availability)
    put in one and/or series of slides
    viola

    Now if I only had a window to call my own ;)
    dgd

  90. Re:no WTC Towers... by Patoski · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    No, you won't. You'll build your own Iron Curtain around the USA, and hide from the evil terrorists outside. Look at yourselves now - your government has banned you from travelling to, or trading with Cuba. How can you say you're free?

    Oooh please... Get off your high horse. Everyone has limits to their freedoms. Freedom without limits is anarchy and I hope you're not advocating that. Almost all countries use sanctions and travel restrictions as tools to influence other country's policies. Almost every country in the world has severe trade and travel restrictions with Iraq during the past 10 years so don't get all preachy about Cuba.

    Your idiotic governments keep getting you tangled up in wars that you should stay out of. Oh, there isn't a war on just now? Let's start one! It's funny how all your wars seem to have something to do with wealthy, oil-producing countries.

    Yeah!! There's so much oil in Afghanistan its not even funny! =P The Gulf War? That was the World vs. Iraq. Your rants while bringing up the popular subject of American bashing are short on facts and long on hollow rhetoric.

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  91. Re:no WTC Towers... by twistedonion · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    the surest way to provoke more terrorist attacks would be to give these terrorists any part of what they want

    Not necessarily, real diplomacy along with the threat of possible force is what is needed - not the 'do as we say or else' attitude. One mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter

  92. Now, all you need to do.. by jacobjyu · · Score: 1

    is to make the lights be a big VU meter just like the MIT's hack in Boston.

  93. Re:no WTC Towers... by Hard_Code · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    "Yeah!! There's so much oil in Afghanistan its not even funny!"

    Uh, no, but there is TONS in Turkmenistan and we have been wanting a pipeline through Afghanistan for a long time now. Why do think we were so in favor of supporting a top advisor to the El Segundo, California-based UNOCAL Corporation as the interim prime minister? Haven't you been paying attention? Or do you just use what ABC McNews tells (or doesn't tell you) to form your perception of reality?

    Christ, wake the fuck up. No wonder the rest of the world thinks we are ignorant jingos.

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  94. Re:no WTC Towers... by action789 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I personally liked how W. handled the whole Afghan issue... "if they want to call us Imperialist dogs, then thats what we'll be!"

    Hello Afghanistan, we're going to mold you into a country whose existence makes our country's existence safer.

    whoot!

  95. Not to be disrespectful, but... by Shynedog · · Score: 1

    ...I hope this guy doesn't have neighbors from Saudi Arabia working on their own model airplanes.

  96. Well, well, well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    Who knew the Brits could post to Slashdot across space and time? Clearly, this bit must have originated from somewhere in the 19th century...
    ...including the UK (you know, the people who saved your arses in the Gulf and in Afghanistan?), but when the terrorists hit the US with *one* attack you get all precious about it.

    If you'd like to keep score on whom is saving the asses of whom, I need only point out that you're posting your message using the English language, rather than the language that certainly would have been your mother tongue, German, twice over. (Or Russian, possibly... You don't think it was fear of England that kept the Bear at bay for 50 years, do you?)

    Neither is this the first time the U.S. has been subject to a terrorist act. The attack on the WTC was the second attack on that location alone.

    Sure, European nations have been living with terrorism a lot longer than we have, but can it produce a single terrorist event that ended more lives, or caused more property damage, than what happened in New York, and Virginia, last year?

    Not even close.

    That said, we don't need your sympathy. We'll manage just fine without it. And then next time Europe finds itself at war, maybe we'll have the wisdom to let that dead continent finally extinguish itself the way it should have during the last century.

  97. Re:no WTC Towers... by jweatherley · · Score: 1

    British Empire [snip] they're also the cause of the India/Pakistan conflict. Both situations were caused by the exact same thing, poor border designs by the British Empire.

    The British did not want to partition India. The Indians didn't want to partition India either. The only people who wanted partition were Muslim rabble rousers who wanted there own country in the NW of British India. Gandhi and the British both knew that partition would be a disaster and so it proved. The original massacres occured in the Punjab and Rajastan and were down to having to draw a line somewhere and the impossibility of avoiding splitting populations.

    The current mess in Kashmir had little to do with the British. The only input the British had here was in letting the rulers of the nominally independent princely states decide which country to join. Ususally this was an easy decision but Hyderabad (Muslim ruler in the Hindu heartland) and Kashmir (other way round) dithered. India eventually overthrew the Nizam of Hyderabad and likewise Pakistan invaded Kashmir. That would have been that if the Pakistani army had actually seized control quickly but they were too busy looting, raping and pillaging and gave the Indians time to respond to the Maharajah's plea for help leaving the world with the mess we have now.

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  98. Now all he neads.. by Inoshiro · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is someone to change his cronjob so the city scape flashes "CRASH N BURN" across a few adjacent buildings ;)

    (Obreference)

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    1. Re:Now all he neads.. by 0xbaadf00d · · Score: 1

      Hackers of the world unite! :) Mod parent up... funny post :)

  99. Outstanding job by gruntvald · · Score: 1

    Man, we sure got a bunch of turds posting today. This is an excellent, well thought out piece of work. I'd appreciate more detail on the cron stuff on the site tho' ...

  100. Maybe a roto-zip would be faster? by istigmata · · Score: 2, Informative

    I can see why he used a jigsaw to cut the edge of the skyline, but to cut out all those windows he would have been better served with a Roto-zip tool. Cutting out 1,540 windows with a jigsaw would take forever!

  101. Re:no WTC Towers... by InOverMyFeet · · Score: 1

    ...remember that cityscape? That was cool huh. I'm ashamed that I was led away from a cool topic like the out-the-window cityscape into this hole.

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  102. Re:pig benis says.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    jesus, that was some good shit that you took if it was only one hit. Where might one purchase some of this fine quality substance?

  103. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool!

    What if there's no one around to hear them? Do they still make a sound?

  104. Everybody has a hobby, I guess. by Mulletproof · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    "I've constructed a lit model of midtown Manhattan to fill an otherwise unspectactular view out of our kitchen window."

    Um, it still looks rather unspectacular. In fact, it looks like one of those early Star Trek models fitted with Christmas tree bulbs. And what's this? "Nice hack job"!? As in poorly done? Hack? Somehow I think if somebody surrounded a gopher hole with barbed wire, micheal would consider it some sort of hack. "Tee hee! I found a website for underwater BB stacking! Nice hack!"

    Maybe if he used fiberoptices. An actual skyline you could see. Changing backgrounds. Something beyond cardboard and Christmas lights. Everybody has their hobby sure, and I respect that. But why am I seeing it here? News for Nerds, stuff that matters, anyone?

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  105. In fairness by Mulletproof · · Score: 2

    The depth projection is a nice effect.

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  106. Uptown manhattan view by qrys · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have a view of uptown manhattan from my window... only cost me $1350 a month. I guess your way is cheaper. And I can't see the Empire State or Chrysler Building.

    I can see the Frederick Douglas Houses tho.. ;)

  107. Total Recall by gol64738 · · Score: 4, Informative

    in the movie Total Recall, an entire wall was devoted to a landscape scenic view (using 3 panels) that turned into a television (using 1 panel).

    i think that this portrayal is a very real indication of what we will have in the near future.

  108. Why do you need a cron job for this? by danimrich · · Score: 1

    I wonder why he does it with a cron job - any simple timer would do it too (and it'd be less likely to crash).
    Does he do anything freaky with it, like, for example, have the computer automatically switch it off and on according to calculated sunrise and sunset times?

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