"Windows 98 ME? I hope that's a joke. I'd think someone that runs Slackware would be intelligent enough to know the difference between 98 and ME."
Stupid, or satire? ME isn't much different from 98. There's a slim chance he's being clever and making fun of Microsoft's blatant repackaging of the same garbage.
"for fuck's sake, once someone comes up with the idea of making the controller shake using an add-on pack, and people see it was good, it's obvious to any retard that that function should be built into the controller for convenience."
That's probably why MS and Sony built them in without paying the license. They didn't know. (Although, it's been stated earlier in this discussion that MS has worked with Immersion to make DirectX compatible with their force-feedback technology.)
Where you're wrong is that Immersion's technology pre-dates Nintendo's. We're talking 93 here, not post-N64.
"How about replacing http into a stateful protocal?"
Okay, I'm an idiot. Can somebody explain the thought behind this? A.) I don't understand what a stateful protocol, B.) I don't understand what HTTP currently is and why it's a prob. Little help?
"So it would take around a trillion asses worth of atoms to have IPv6 fail to be able to address each of them."
Gentleman, I think we have found our new standard unit of measurement.
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"First we need download speeds that are even close to our Asian neighbors."
Uh, right. We don't need 25 megabit connections for movies. 150KB/s is enough for streaming a dvd quality video (MPEG4 compressed). I regularly get 400KB/s thanks to my handy-dandy cable modem. Heck, a few years ago I was subscribed to an on-demand service that worked pretty well. Pity it went bye bye.:(
"Then can someone tell me why I'd want to use a PsP when I can use a laptop or a desktop just the same and not need to wardrive or be at home?"
Convenience. You can't use a laptop standing up.
It's not the most critical thing in the world, but it's a nice to have for a niche group of people. Ask anybody who seriously uses a palm device with 802.11.
"Yes but take a look at all the other toys out there such as joy sticks that have this fine control. I ahve a logeth force feedback stearing weel and there force feedback stearing weel. The idea of controling the vibration to a fine degree is nothing new at all"
Seeing as how the patent goes back to 93, are you sure you can continue saying "nothing new"? Do you know for sure that Logitech didn't license the technology?
"Didn't the Rumble Pack come out in 1996? I guess that might not violate these patents (I never owned one, anyone who does...does it have more than one speed?)"
The Rumble Pak was a seperate unit that had to be plugged into the controller. Nintendo won that battle because of that key difference.
"Xbox and GC both have force feedback in their controllers (not counting the wavebird). Why aren't they in trouble as well?"
Nintendo was sued over the Rumble Pak back when the N64 was first introduced. Nintendo won because it was an add-on, as opposed to being built into the controller. I imagine when they made the GC, they licensed the technology. Microsoft, from what I read in other posts, was sued and settled by licensing the technology.
I vaguely remember that Nintendo was sued over the Rumble Pak. (Note: I'm not sure if they were sued by this company or if it was something completely different, so please bear with me.)
Nintendo fought it. As mentioned by another poster, they were exempt from having to pay the fee because the Rumble Pak wasn't built into the controller. Guess this is one of those cases where patents worked the way they're supposed to. They're supposed to be for very specific claims, not overly broad ideas.
"Nintendo's Gamecube controllers sell with vibration by default. Is Nintendo somehow exempt?"
If this is the same patent I'm thinking of, then the reason why the N64 didn't get into trouble over this is because the Rumble Pak was a seperate unit from the controller. (It has been stated before that this is exactly why the DC didn't have built in force feedback either.)
I don't really know if this story is true, so take with a grain of salt. Heck, correct me if I'm wrong. The sad thing is that if the story is true, then Sony's known about this problem since long before the PS2 launch.
"haha, Slashdot readers think alike. However, I took a screenshot of the desktop with and error message, photoshopped the error message to something really scary, set that image as the desktop. Man was my coworker tripping. The dumb tech support, too =)"
Heh. You fools using desktop wallpaper to mess with other people, what a waste of time. I useta have a wallpaper image that was a screen-grab of my daily work apps. Boss comes by? *click* Desktop button! (Admittedly, though, I attempted to highlight my wallpaper a few times.)
Eh, maybe some of them are faked. But ya gotta admit, this one is pretty cute. Although, as a cat owner, I'm probably just impressed that he actually got his cat to pose.
"Huh? Isn't that what a PSP/Gameboy Advance/Nintendo DS is?"
Sort of. Though I don't disagree with your statement, it's worth pointing out that only Nintendo has ever put that much effort into a portable. It's difficult to imagine that Sony will back the PSP like a main-stream machine.
"Wow, that's kinda neat. Now all the PSP needs is a stylus interface! Oh, wait, that's a gimmick. Sorry I brought it up."
'Troll', my ass. Every time there's a DS story, the touch screen is called a 'gimmick'. But when a browser is made for the PSP, and a rather good use for a stylus interface surfaces, it's yay yay whoop-de-doo cool.
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"I, for one, welcome our new KDE overlords."
Who wants to bet that Microsoft is behind this?!
"I skimmed the court order and TFA, but I don't see why Microsoft is listed as a defendant..."/I.
XBOX has a vibrating controller. It has been said elsehwere, though, that MS settled.
"Yes, its called ".1" as in the 5.1 Dolby Digital Low Frequency Effect channel aka LFE."
Ah, so how do the motors work with Dolby?
"Windows 98 ME? I hope that's a joke. I'd think someone that runs Slackware would be intelligent enough to know the difference between 98 and ME."
Stupid, or satire? ME isn't much different from 98. There's a slim chance he's being clever and making fun of Microsoft's blatant repackaging of the same garbage.
"for fuck's sake, once someone comes up with the idea of making the controller shake using an add-on pack, and people see it was good, it's obvious to any retard that that function should be built into the controller for convenience."
That's probably why MS and Sony built them in without paying the license. They didn't know. (Although, it's been stated earlier in this discussion that MS has worked with Immersion to make DirectX compatible with their force-feedback technology.)
Where you're wrong is that Immersion's technology pre-dates Nintendo's. We're talking 93 here, not post-N64.
"How about replacing http into a stateful protocal?"
Okay, I'm an idiot. Can somebody explain the thought behind this? A.) I don't understand what a stateful protocol, B.) I don't understand what HTTP currently is and why it's a prob. Little help?
"So it would take around a trillion asses worth of atoms to have IPv6 fail to be able to address each of them."
Gentleman, I think we have found our new standard unit of measurement.
"First we need download speeds that are even close to our Asian neighbors."
:(
Uh, right. We don't need 25 megabit connections for movies. 150KB/s is enough for streaming a dvd quality video (MPEG4 compressed). I regularly get 400KB/s thanks to my handy-dandy cable modem. Heck, a few years ago I was subscribed to an on-demand service that worked pretty well. Pity it went bye bye.
"Who needs a laptop?"
Uh, a word processor with a joystick control? Right.
Frankly, the DS would be far better suited for that type of app. Stylus interface + dedicated screen for the keyboard. Yum.
"Then can someone tell me why I'd want to use a PsP when I can use a laptop or a desktop just the same and not need to wardrive or be at home?"
Convenience. You can't use a laptop standing up.
It's not the most critical thing in the world, but it's a nice to have for a niche group of people. Ask anybody who seriously uses a palm device with 802.11.
"Yes but take a look at all the other toys out there such as joy sticks that have this fine control. I ahve a logeth force feedback stearing weel and there force feedback stearing weel. The idea of controling the vibration to a fine degree is nothing new at all"
Seeing as how the patent goes back to 93, are you sure you can continue saying "nothing new"? Do you know for sure that Logitech didn't license the technology?
"And here I was stupidly thinking that variable speed motors had existed before this patent was filed!"
Were they hooked up to software to give the impression of 'feeling' what was being simulated on the screen?
"Didn't the Rumble Pack come out in 1996? I guess that might not violate these patents (I never owned one, anyone who does...does it have more than one speed?)"
The Rumble Pak was a seperate unit that had to be plugged into the controller. Nintendo won that battle because of that key difference.
"Xbox and GC both have force feedback in their controllers (not counting the wavebird). Why aren't they in trouble as well?"
Nintendo was sued over the Rumble Pak back when the N64 was first introduced. Nintendo won because it was an add-on, as opposed to being built into the controller. I imagine when they made the GC, they licensed the technology. Microsoft, from what I read in other posts, was sued and settled by licensing the technology.
"What about the N64 Rumble Pak, yo?!"
I vaguely remember that Nintendo was sued over the Rumble Pak. (Note: I'm not sure if they were sued by this company or if it was something completely different, so please bear with me.)
Nintendo fought it. As mentioned by another poster, they were exempt from having to pay the fee because the Rumble Pak wasn't built into the controller. Guess this is one of those cases where patents worked the way they're supposed to. They're supposed to be for very specific claims, not overly broad ideas.
"Nintendo's Gamecube controllers sell with vibration by default. Is Nintendo somehow exempt?"
If this is the same patent I'm thinking of, then the reason why the N64 didn't get into trouble over this is because the Rumble Pak was a seperate unit from the controller. (It has been stated before that this is exactly why the DC didn't have built in force feedback either.)
I don't really know if this story is true, so take with a grain of salt. Heck, correct me if I'm wrong. The sad thing is that if the story is true, then Sony's known about this problem since long before the PS2 launch.
Thanks for proving my point. :)
"haha, Slashdot readers think alike. However, I took a screenshot of the desktop with and error message, photoshopped the error message to something really scary, set that image as the desktop. Man was my coworker tripping. The dumb tech support, too =)"
Heh. You fools using desktop wallpaper to mess with other people, what a waste of time. I useta have a wallpaper image that was a screen-grab of my daily work apps. Boss comes by? *click* Desktop button! (Admittedly, though, I attempted to highlight my wallpaper a few times.)
Work avoidance > messin with people.
Eh, maybe some of them are faked. But ya gotta admit, this one is pretty cute. Although, as a cat owner, I'm probably just impressed that he actually got his cat to pose.
"Some people have entirely too much time on their hands." ... said the guy posting on Slashdot.
"Well, frankly, that's between you and your girlfriend !"
Ouch! Talk about twisting the knife!!
"Well, the PSP is a better MP3 player than the iPod is a game player."
Hmm... Yeah, okay, I see your point.
"Huh? Isn't that what a PSP/Gameboy Advance/Nintendo DS is?"
Sort of. Though I don't disagree with your statement, it's worth pointing out that only Nintendo has ever put that much effort into a portable. It's difficult to imagine that Sony will back the PSP like a main-stream machine.
Oh please, like we don't know who you are. Ass.
"Wow, that's kinda neat. Now all the PSP needs is a stylus interface! Oh, wait, that's a gimmick. Sorry I brought it up."
'Troll', my ass. Every time there's a DS story, the touch screen is called a 'gimmick'. But when a browser is made for the PSP, and a rather good use for a stylus interface surfaces, it's yay yay whoop-de-doo cool.