Imagine a 6 year old having to do an intellectual property search on the Net every time she was assigned to write a story for school and then try to find the intellectual property owners
RTFA people. Even if its a fake at least criticize it for what it says.
It says that hardware manufacturers are upset because they have to pay the fee to a system administered by the government. No consumer action required.
In fact the idea that the royalty keeps getting paid after the copyright runs out avoids having to keep track of individual copyrights.
The other thing the article does not say or even imply is that copyright never ends. "Only" 100 years but not quite forever. the Government would have the power to collect
fees from the use of works, which are no longer protected.
In essence,
what the bill proposes is the implementation of a number of
provisions granting additional rights to authors and holders
of neighboring rights such as artists and phonogram
producers. Thus, in among other aspects, the Copyright Law
would be changed to reflect a compensation right for private
copying of works of authorship.
If I read this right the law will be changed to allow someone to collect money from industry to pay to artists in respect of private copying. This would explain why manufacturers and vendors of equipment and media for
reproducing copyrightable subject matter are so down on the idea. They would have to pay it.
Well, that's it for the Middle Ages then. 400 years of untrammelled raping and looting of their own little vasseldoms by the Barons.
OK Darling I'm off for a bit of vassel hunting today with the boys.
Careful love and bring me back a plump one. None of those scraggy little ones from the village down by the river this time.
Most stable forms of government are some kind of compact between the governing and the governed. It may be implied and it may be explicit. Feudal societies had rights and obligations on both sides. It wasn't always a one-sided repression of rebellious elements.
To see the Middle Ages in that way is to miss the role of almost every other factor in human progress since the invention of the wheel.
This is called a false dichotomy if you take it as an absolute statement. In terms of your dichotomy its more like 'if you're not with us, you're with someone else'. Not quite so threatening and it was certainly meant in that vein rather than the strict AorB choice offered by the US.
Otherwise its a joke, joyce.
I suspect you have some core values or beliefs on which your moral judgements are based. The joke refers to people who have either never developed such core beliefs or more commonly have rejected one set eg conventional religions but who want some anyway and their ability to fill the gap with really ludicrous beliefs in crystals and auras and aliens.
Now before you jump on me I realize the same thing can be said against those who don't believe in crystals, auras and aliens.
But, if ObL approaches you with his "absolute" truth you will reject him because that truth is based on revealed knowledge. He has however managed to get a lot of apologists in the west with his appeals to attacks on his culture which, to many of those people is accepted as no worse and in many cases much more worthy than their own.
I suppose yu wouldn't be impressed with another little thing I heard
The problem for the American Left and other Anti-Americans is that the only power seemingly capable of humiliating the US in the eyes of the world is even worse than the US and hates them as well."
And a lot of wrongs are permitted in the name of "cultural differences"
Beware of people who can't make up their mind about what is right or wrong. Just because there are two sides to an argument it doesn't mean each side is equally valid or that either side has any validity at all.
People who believe that nothing is absolute can be made to believe absolutely anything.
That is NOT an official aljazeerah site. If you have been to the official site (which I did yesterday for the first time) you will see that it is a lot more professional than this one based in GA. If nothing else it doesn't editorialize in picture captions as baldly as this site.
The linked site looks more like some anti-war group has cobbled together links to lots of other places (see the fair-use claim near the bottom) and managed to get the.info domain. i wonder how many other near miss names point here.
Its sites like these that make you distrust the net.
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So if you know the ip address you should be able to get through, right. Well does anyone know the ip for any of their sites.
repeating the same mistakes the Catholics made in the Middle Ages (keep em' ignorant and our rule is secured)...
I'm sure you aren't being anti-Catholic or anything here because of course at the time there weren't too many muslim goat-herders or Confucian? rice threshers with degrees in astrophysics let alone literate.
Your main error is in assuming that "'em" weren't happy being ignorant or at least ruled. People basically fear change and will accept restrictions if change can be avoided. At some stage the restrictions may become oppressive (which is why we no longer operate under feudalism) but it can take a lot to start off the revolution.
At the moment it seems an inevitable part of nature that if nothing else does it first, our bodies just stop working. Do not impute a reason to death by asking why do we have to do it. It just happens.
s there anything deceptive going on here? No. Yes, copy-protected CD's look just like regular CD's, but only because form follows function. If they looked any different, they wouldn't work.
And companies rely on that to get them into the market. People have been buying CDs for 25 years and most if not all would now not go looking for the CDlogo because as you almost said, function follows form. If it looks like a cd then it probably works like a cd.
I suspect that Phillips has a license that pre-dates mp3 ripping from pccdrom drives but if they have adjusted their licence to allow the logo on protected discs that won't play on such drives then all the more reason for regulation to notify consumers of that.
Following the syntax of your first statement the second should read
Most copyright violations occur after circumventing protections. Therefore if you do not circumvent protections you are less likely to violate copyright. This is probably true.
What you may have meant was perhaps "Most copyright violations occur after circumventing protections. Therefore if you circumvent protections you must be intent on copyright violation" It may be true but not necessarily. Your statement about ice-cream is true but irrelevant to the conclusion reached. The copyright statement in this para is also true but it is entirely relevant to the conclusion reached. That conclusion is not self-evidently false either.
Your conclusion re criminalizing circumvention just doesn't follow from you premise.
If they are dumb enough to put 100 innocents in jail why would you think they will be smart enough to find the guilty one in the first place. But that will be about the ratio I suspect.
In any case dimwit they wouldn't be imprisoned. They would be thrown out of jobs, possibly deported after having their citizenship revoked, very probably taken to Camp X-Ray and interrogated for a year or so then dropped off in the middle of cairo dressed in a tutu and boa with a sign nailed to their back saying "I'd rather fuck a camel but you'll do big boy".
And meanwhile the terrorist is quietly learning the next in a set of skills designed to rain death on your head.
No-one deserves to die but I keep finding more and more people who will not be missed.
RSA is designed in such a way that if we try all the possible keys one at a time it will take x'000 years to be try them all. Given that many keys is unlikely that a random choice of key will be correct. So it would seem that all the contests to break various encryption schemes are pretty much luck.
So its possible for me to choose a random key that decrypts your pr0n locker first try. But I'm not even going to try because that would use up all my luck in next weeks lottery.
People in Canada have died from it and there have been alerts in Europe already and it's still funny. There goes your theory.
But on a serious note, it is human nature to laugh in the face of impending death. It makes us feel better.
Or as a great philosopher once said "Humour is when someone else slips on the banana peel, Tragedy is when I slip on the banana peel" In either case someone is lying on the ground with a sore head.
If you read the article it talks about items that connect to pc's and laptops as requiring certification. I assumed that meant hardware as I can't see how you can describe applications software as something that conects to a machine.
It says nothing about application software.
Can we stop the "Will they sell Linux" stuff now.
I assume they got sick of people bringing back everything that threw up the "This is not signed" box.
Certain countries could be more receptive to the idea. Initially, Alcatel is looking to sell the system in Israel, where adults and children live in fear of suicide bombs and other terrorist attacks.
Yeah, that's reassuring. Do we just assume the kids has been blown up if the signal drops out.
Does it send the good signal when you are not near a bomb or when you are near a cell tower that is guaranteed not to be near any known suicide bomber targets.
As for kids on the way to school, why not develop a long distance kid race like they have for their kids and dogs in the back yard. You know, the light chain on a wire guide so they can play anywhere in the yard but can't get over or under the fence.
If you had one of those all the way to the school you would know for sure where they were.
And any kid not attached to the wire in school transit time during a yellow or higher alert state would be swept up in the regular anti-truancy/terror patrols.
They shit me to tears, waste my time, offend my senses, frustrate me, annoy me, ittitate me, a hundred other adjectives that describe unpleasantness.
I don't care if there is no rational economic reason why it should be allowed, I don't want it.
I don't care about the spammers freedom of speech or the implications of banning spam. I don't want it.
I don't want to discuss definitions of spam. I know it when I see it.
I don't care if millions of legitimate businesses will be cut off from an effective and efficient way of reaching new customers or serving their existing clientel, I don't want it.
I just want the spam to stop.
I will support any law designed to do that including but not limited to the return of capital punishment and executive executions in all national juridsdictions. I will fix up later any un-anticipated side effects of such a law and promise to be sensible in it's application. maybe.
As for There's no law against sending unsolicited postal mail, there probably should be. That's starting to shit me as well.
Some of the above is an exageration for the purposes of the argument. Not much, mind you
Sorta makes sense if cell towers are close together the are effectively looking straight up at the overflying aircraft. Not sure how stealthy they are from underneath but it would be hard to avoid some signature. So if you are flying over 500km of basically radar towere every 10 km then it might very well be possible.
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No but he is only a heartbeat away form the job.
and he has an undisclosed location just like saddamm
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The US is about to fire 3000 large guided explosives into a relatively small piece of iraq. when your arse is strewn into 1000 pieces about the desert and your house and that of your 2000 closest friends is in 2001 heaps on the ground it is difficult to see what the functional difference is between one or two really immense bombs and 3000 little ones.
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Russia and France oppose this war in part because they have been investing in Iraq oil since the first Gulf war
I thought US had agreed ealry in the piece that russian and french oil contracts would remain in place if there was a change in regime. so i cou;dn't understand why this was used as a rational for beating them up. it is too easy anyway to suggest that oil is the US reason for going in. (which i don't believe either).
making symbolic gestures like electing human rights experts like Lybia to lead thier human rights group.
I think the chairmanship of that committee is by rotation. so libya was next on the list. no-one voted them in.
What makes America great is that they aren't afraid to do the right thing,
Well thats easy when your definition of what is right is whatever it is your doing at the time.
even when their "allies" capitulate in the face of danger.
Wha... you think france is opposed to this because they are afraid of iraq. you think canada is afraid of iraq. you think germany is afraid of iraq. if they aren't fighting the big bad iraq it must be because they don't see it as the face of danger or they aren't afraid if it is. capitulate to what.
and remember these are countries (except canada) that have had their fair share of terrorist action over the years. so its not as if they don't understand the potential threat.
I understand the theory/fact problem but I was addressing the posters emphasis on process over 'facts'. I never thought we were discussing whether it is better for a student to remember all the data points on Milliken's graphs vs the results of his work on electron charge or whatever. But education these days seems to over emphasise understanding the process of the experiments wtihout requiring students to remember what they were about or what was the result.
Your ability to oprerate in any field is dependant on your knowledge of and understanding of the accepted theories in the field (if only to debunk them) and no matter how well you understand the scientific process if you don't know this stuff (what I was calling facts in my post) you are wasting your time.
I see too much emphasis placed on process too early in education. In any field, the further up the ladder you go the more you have to just know, not be able to find, and the harder it is to understand.
Science education is not primarily concerned with transmitting facts
At some point it must be. Science even as you describe it is done by people who know stuff. Detailed stuff about really complex things. As for a blank slate, when whoever said "if i have seen further than others it is because I stood on the shoulders of giants" he didn't mean it literally. He meant that he knew all that they had discovered and using the scientific method had discovered new stuff. Hardly a blank slate.
Data are not facts, in much the same way that facts aren't knowledge and knowledge isn't wisdom.
All the 'facts' that are seemingly so hard to learn are the foundations of the science. If you don't know the facts how do you explain the results of the tests.
Slashdot Mirror
RTFA people. Even if its a fake at least criticize it for what it says.
It says that hardware manufacturers are upset because they have to pay the fee to a system administered by the government. No consumer action required.
In fact the idea that the royalty keeps getting paid after the copyright runs out avoids having to keep track of individual copyrights.
The other thing the article does not say or even imply is that copyright never ends. "Only" 100 years but not quite forever. the Government would have the power to collect fees from the use of works, which are no longer protected.
Does that not sound like copyright is over.
If I read this right the law will be changed to allow someone to collect money from industry to pay to artists in respect of private copying. This would explain why manufacturers and vendors of equipment and media for reproducing copyrightable subject matter are so down on the idea. They would have to pay it.
OK Darling I'm off for a bit of vassel hunting today with the boys.
Careful love and bring me back a plump one. None of those scraggy little ones from the village down by the river this time.
Most stable forms of government are some kind of compact between the governing and the governed. It may be implied and it may be explicit. Feudal societies had rights and obligations on both sides. It wasn't always a one-sided repression of rebellious elements.
To see the Middle Ages in that way is to miss the role of almost every other factor in human progress since the invention of the wheel.
Otherwise its a joke, joyce.
I suspect you have some core values or beliefs on which your moral judgements are based. The joke refers to people who have either never developed such core beliefs or more commonly have rejected one set eg conventional religions but who want some anyway and their ability to fill the gap with really ludicrous beliefs in crystals and auras and aliens.
Now before you jump on me I realize the same thing can be said against those who don't believe in crystals, auras and aliens.
But, if ObL approaches you with his "absolute" truth you will reject him because that truth is based on revealed knowledge. He has however managed to get a lot of apologists in the west with his appeals to attacks on his culture which, to many of those people is accepted as no worse and in many cases much more worthy than their own.
I suppose yu wouldn't be impressed with another little thing I heard
The problem for the American Left and other Anti-Americans is that the only power seemingly capable of humiliating the US in the eyes of the world is even worse than the US and hates them as well."
Beware of people who can't make up their mind about what is right or wrong. Just because there are two sides to an argument it doesn't mean each side is equally valid or that either side has any validity at all.
People who believe that nothing is absolute can be made to believe absolutely anything.
The linked site looks more like some anti-war group has cobbled together links to lots of other places (see the fair-use claim near the bottom) and managed to get the .info domain. i wonder how many other near miss names point here.
Its sites like these that make you distrust the net.
So if you know the ip address you should be able to get through, right. Well does anyone know the ip for any of their sites.
I'm sure you aren't being anti-Catholic or anything here because of course at the time there weren't too many muslim goat-herders or Confucian? rice threshers with degrees in astrophysics let alone literate.
Your main error is in assuming that "'em" weren't happy being ignorant or at least ruled. People basically fear change and will accept restrictions if change can be avoided. At some stage the restrictions may become oppressive (which is why we no longer operate under feudalism) but it can take a lot to start off the revolution.
And companies rely on that to get them into the market. People have been buying CDs for 25 years and most if not all would now not go looking for the CDlogo because as you almost said, function follows form. If it looks like a cd then it probably works like a cd.
I suspect that Phillips has a license that pre-dates mp3 ripping from pccdrom drives but if they have adjusted their licence to allow the logo on protected discs that won't play on such drives then all the more reason for regulation to notify consumers of that.
Most copyright violations occur after circumventing protections. Therefore if you do not circumvent protections you are less likely to violate copyright. This is probably true.
What you may have meant was perhaps "Most copyright violations occur after circumventing protections. Therefore if you circumvent protections you must be intent on copyright violation" It may be true but not necessarily. Your statement about ice-cream is true but irrelevant to the conclusion reached. The copyright statement in this para is also true but it is entirely relevant to the conclusion reached. That conclusion is not self-evidently false either.
Your conclusion re criminalizing circumvention just doesn't follow from you premise.
In any case dimwit they wouldn't be imprisoned. They would be thrown out of jobs, possibly deported after having their citizenship revoked, very probably taken to Camp X-Ray and interrogated for a year or so then dropped off in the middle of cairo dressed in a tutu and boa with a sign nailed to their back saying "I'd rather fuck a camel but you'll do big boy".
And meanwhile the terrorist is quietly learning the next in a set of skills designed to rain death on your head.
No-one deserves to die but I keep finding more and more people who will not be missed.
So its possible for me to choose a random key that decrypts your pr0n locker first try. But I'm not even going to try because that would use up all my luck in next weeks lottery.
But on a serious note, it is human nature to laugh in the face of impending death. It makes us feel better.
Or as a great philosopher once said "Humour is when someone else slips on the banana peel, Tragedy is when I slip on the banana peel" In either case someone is lying on the ground with a sore head.
It says nothing about application software.
Can we stop the "Will they sell Linux" stuff now.
I assume they got sick of people bringing back everything that threw up the "This is not signed" box.
Yeah, that's reassuring. Do we just assume the kids has been blown up if the signal drops out.
Does it send the good signal when you are not near a bomb or when you are near a cell tower that is guaranteed not to be near any known suicide bomber targets.
As for kids on the way to school, why not develop a long distance kid race like they have for their kids and dogs in the back yard. You know, the light chain on a wire guide so they can play anywhere in the yard but can't get over or under the fence.
If you had one of those all the way to the school you would know for sure where they were.
And any kid not attached to the wire in school transit time during a yellow or higher alert state would be swept up in the regular anti-truancy/terror patrols.
For their own protection of course.
I apologize unreservedly.
How 'bout
They shit me to tears, waste my time, offend my senses, frustrate me, annoy me, ittitate me, a hundred other adjectives that describe unpleasantness.
I don't care if there is no rational economic reason why it should be allowed, I don't want it.
I don't care about the spammers freedom of speech or the implications of banning spam. I don't want it.
I don't want to discuss definitions of spam. I know it when I see it.
I don't care if millions of legitimate businesses will be cut off from an effective and efficient way of reaching new customers or serving their existing clientel, I don't want it.
I just want the spam to stop.
I will support any law designed to do that including but not limited to the return of capital punishment and executive executions in all national juridsdictions. I will fix up later any un-anticipated side effects of such a law and promise to be sensible in it's application. maybe.
As for There's no law against sending unsolicited postal mail, there probably should be. That's starting to shit me as well.
Some of the above is an exageration for the purposes of the argument. Not much, mind you
Sorta makes sense if cell towers are close together the are effectively looking straight up at the overflying aircraft. Not sure how stealthy they are from underneath but it would be hard to avoid some signature. So if you are flying over 500km of basically radar towere every 10 km then it might very well be possible.
and he has an undisclosed location just like saddamm
The US is about to fire 3000 large guided explosives into a relatively small piece of iraq. when your arse is strewn into 1000 pieces about the desert and your house and that of your 2000 closest friends is in 2001 heaps on the ground it is difficult to see what the functional difference is between one or two really immense bombs and 3000 little ones.
I thought US had agreed ealry in the piece that russian and french oil contracts would remain in place if there was a change in regime. so i cou;dn't understand why this was used as a rational for beating them up. it is too easy anyway to suggest that oil is the US reason for going in. (which i don't believe either).
making symbolic gestures like electing human rights experts like Lybia to lead thier human rights group.
I think the chairmanship of that committee is by rotation. so libya was next on the list. no-one voted them in.
Well thats easy when your definition of what is right is whatever it is your doing at the time.
even when their "allies" capitulate in the face of danger.
Wha... you think france is opposed to this because they are afraid of iraq. you think canada is afraid of iraq. you think germany is afraid of iraq. if they aren't fighting the big bad iraq it must be because they don't see it as the face of danger or they aren't afraid if it is. capitulate to what.
and remember these are countries (except canada) that have had their fair share of terrorist action over the years. so its not as if they don't understand the potential threat.
Your ability to oprerate in any field is dependant on your knowledge of and understanding of the accepted theories in the field (if only to debunk them) and no matter how well you understand the scientific process if you don't know this stuff (what I was calling facts in my post) you are wasting your time.
I see too much emphasis placed on process too early in education. In any field, the further up the ladder you go the more you have to just know, not be able to find, and the harder it is to understand.
At some point it must be. Science even as you describe it is done by people who know stuff. Detailed stuff about really complex things. As for a blank slate, when whoever said "if i have seen further than others it is because I stood on the shoulders of giants" he didn't mean it literally. He meant that he knew all that they had discovered and using the scientific method had discovered new stuff. Hardly a blank slate.
Data are not facts, in much the same way that facts aren't knowledge and knowledge isn't wisdom.
All the 'facts' that are seemingly so hard to learn are the foundations of the science. If you don't know the facts how do you explain the results of the tests.