What's funny is that Transgaming's CEO seems to have his feelings hurt in a similar (though not the same) way as Codeweavers and Wine before they decided to change their license. Both choose a freer license and eventually move to one which suits them politically.
On Friday, installed 25 versions of both. I had, on my boss' insistence that we use win98 for a lab, done a minimum re-install, erasing the old MSOffice suite, not installing Outlook Express, and removing IE with ieradicator. I figured there was no need for the students to use that stuff in a language lab, and it would save a lot of viral headaches. When she returned from a seminaar in the US last week, suddenly internet and office suites were obligatory (who knows why in a language lab), so I installed Moz1.0rc3, OO1.0, and Pladao 1.0 (OpenOffice638C with thai menus and language support). I doubt anyone will use them, but whatever. Can't hurt.
You're missing my point: the biological mechanism to tell you to breathe has nothing to do with the amount of oxygen in your blood, only with the concentration of co2. If I hyperventilate well enough, I can hold my breath to green out without serious discomfort. Are you a swimmer/diver? This is important if you are.
From the article "Most of the rights to the book - including all US rights - had long ago fallen into the public domain. Only the British rights appeared to be privately held: by a former rock musician who hoped to turn Wells' story into a travelling stage musical along the lines of Blood Brothers or Fame."
It is amazing to me that literature as old as War of the Worlds is still unavailable for the public (at least in Britain). I mean, I used to listen to the original radio broadcast on reel-to-reel when I was a kid. The amount of quality work that has been abandoned due to continuously extended copyrights has to be non-quantifiable. Tragedy, because, although he didn't get to make his picture, the large studios bought out the rock-star and are now making it with Tom Cruise. I want to cry.
Totally offtopic, but most of the non-apocryphal writings have primary documents placed at the end of the first century or beginning of the second. More than enough time for artistic license, but you're still wrong. Maybe you should've said "Compiled 400 years after the events..." and you could've, probably, been right.
CO2 concentration in our blood is what determines our desire to breath. Wouldn't an extremely high concentration of CO2 cause serious problems along these lines? It's why, when I was young, hyperventilating was necessary before I went spearfishing. It's also why I was able to stay trapped underwater for almost three minutes once, but I can't seem to hold my breath longer than 45 sec if I don't hyperventilate first. High concentrations of CO2 would probably make these guys continuously stressed out about being short of breath, but I'm no rocket scientist.:)
I thank you, because nothing pisses me off more when browsing than to get 6 ( count 'em ) extra pop ups telling me to install shockwave plugin, like I did today -- on every single damn page, too, man. I gotta walk over and talk to the guys writing that page and tell them they're killing me softly, with their shockwave -- killing me softly.
Which brings up the point : is there EVER going to be a shockwave plugin for any browser but IE? Hell Macromedia hasn't even fixed the remote display bug in Flash that's been around for years.
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That's damn funny man. I wish there wern't 40 posts between the parent and you so that I would have gotten the humor the first time.
About two months ago, I went looking for, found, and installed it, but it, apparently, doesn't have a Netscape plugin included, so I scrapped it and went with rp8, which was unavailable anywhere except through a Google search. Their web pages still had the registration process, but every mirror turned up empty. RP8 works just fine under Konq, though.
They are probably talking about the NSA's Linux project. Check freshmeat.net often and you're bound to see it there. There may be others, but that, at least, covers the paper's statement.
Actually, I wasn't talking about gradeschoolers, but high school or it's equivalent in other countries. And I wasn't proposing a special treatment for evolution, but it happened to be the thread's topic. I was speaking generally about all theories, about teaching our children to think and judge facts for themselves. I talked about debates, etc... Sorry if that was unclear: it was 1:00am here. I went to an International Baccalaureate program and that kind of thing was required. You could espouse any position, but you had better be able to back up your ideas with more than PR fluff.
I glanced down the page and saw no answers to your real question, so: K12LTSP is the answer. Most of the savings come because they are not using new computers. They are using old p133s picked up for $25 or donated, with the HDs ripped out and network booted as an X terminal. The cost of 5 terminals at about $20 per, plus a server and a switch puts it well under $1000. The server can even be (as mine is at my language lab) and old PIII 500 with tons of RAM. The guys at k12ltsp.org have put together a turnkey solution for this and they are the ones in the Oregon school system making half the stink. I love you, Eric!
What he really said was We have no non-free systems or applications on them now, and our principles say we must keep it that way. I think the emphasis should be on "now."
Do I have an obligation to share those recipes with others? Absolutely not. Is it wrong of me to keep them for myself? No.
What's funny about this, is that most of the really good chefs are happy to give you any recipe of theirs that you ask for: they know you come to their restaurant for more than the food;they know you (probably) couldn't make it as well at home; and they think that keeping to themselves does no one any good. Do chefs have some sort of recipe sharing mandate? No, but they do it because they see it as good for everyone, even themselves. I always find a good corelation between the restaurant business and the emerging free-software business.
Not that I disagree with you, but I think it should be mentioned that Stallman views Linux as appropriating many possible Hurd developers, and so Hurd has taken much longer than it would if Linux were not available. I've read that before, but I can't find the link right now.
While I am not, at this point in my life, a Christian, and I believe the "Creation Scientists" are generally using anything but science to butress their case, I do think that they provide an important service. They harp on problems within the current set of theories that are taught, theories which are presented in schools with little or no rebuttal. Many people would like to have these theories presented as fact with no counter-claims, but I think a good debate in class on the issues helps everyone involved. For example, the systematic lack of transitional forms in the fossil record is one which calls into question the gradualistic evolution that was taught when I was in school (admittedly a while ago). Can teenagers be hurt by being presented both the pros and cons of the various theories in a balanced way?
Yeah, but you seem to blatently overlook the point that this information is not IN ANY WAY supportive of their position. In fact, it runs counter-culture to the military way of thinking. This is one of the major deciding factors in believability of historical documents, used across the board by scholars. Oh, and by the way, thanks for the compliment about my intelligence, since I know when to use "than" vs. "then" and "you yourself was" vs. "you, yourself, were." "Put down the flamethrower before you hurt yourself, Johnny.."
This guy is using Mandrake, remember? They have the Software Manager, if I remember correctly. You search for word processing, it tells you AbiWord and Kword, highlight those, click install, and it asks for the CDs in order. When you're finished, they're all on the KDE menu
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Remember, we're talking about a 10 year old Alpha project.
Hey! Don't talk about Mozilla like that!
What's funny is that Transgaming's CEO seems to have his feelings hurt in a similar (though not the same) way as Codeweavers and Wine before they decided to change their license. Both choose a freer license and eventually move to one which suits them politically.
On Friday, installed 25 versions of both. I had, on my boss' insistence that we use win98 for a lab, done a minimum re-install, erasing the old MSOffice suite, not installing Outlook Express, and removing IE with ieradicator. I figured there was no need for the students to use that stuff in a language lab, and it would save a lot of viral headaches. When she returned from a seminaar in the US last week, suddenly internet and office suites were obligatory (who knows why in a language lab), so I installed Moz1.0rc3, OO1.0, and Pladao 1.0 (OpenOffice638C with thai menus and language support). I doubt anyone will use them, but whatever. Can't hurt.
You're missing my point: the biological mechanism to tell you to breathe has nothing to do with the amount of oxygen in your blood, only with the concentration of co2. If I hyperventilate well enough, I can hold my breath to green out without serious discomfort. Are you a swimmer/diver? This is important if you are.
If any nation can claim to be the primary manglers of the English language is is they.
I neerly fel out uf my seet laffin their.From the article "Most of the rights to the book - including all US rights - had long ago fallen into the public domain. Only the British rights appeared to be privately held: by a former rock musician who hoped to turn Wells' story into a travelling stage musical along the lines of Blood Brothers or Fame."
It is amazing to me that literature as old as War of the Worlds is still unavailable for the public (at least in Britain). I mean, I used to listen to the original radio broadcast on reel-to-reel when I was a kid. The amount of quality work that has been abandoned due to continuously extended copyrights has to be non-quantifiable. Tragedy, because, although he didn't get to make his picture, the large studios bought out the rock-star and are now making it with Tom Cruise. I want to cry.Totally offtopic, but most of the non-apocryphal writings have primary documents placed at the end of the first century or beginning of the second. More than enough time for artistic license, but you're still wrong. Maybe you should've said "Compiled 400 years after the events..." and you could've, probably, been right.
That's why I went the Linuxfromscratch.org way about a month ago. Getting Thai language support for all the packages is a real bitch, though.
CO2 concentration in our blood is what determines our desire to breath. Wouldn't an extremely high concentration of CO2 cause serious problems along these lines? It's why, when I was young, hyperventilating was necessary before I went spearfishing. It's also why I was able to stay trapped underwater for almost three minutes once, but I can't seem to hold my breath longer than 45 sec if I don't hyperventilate first. High concentrations of CO2 would probably make these guys continuously stressed out about being short of breath, but I'm no rocket scientist. :)
I thank you, because nothing pisses me off more when browsing than to get 6 ( count 'em ) extra pop ups telling me to install shockwave plugin, like I did today -- on every single damn page, too, man. I gotta walk over and talk to the guys writing that page and tell them they're killing me softly, with their shockwave -- killing me softly. Which brings up the point : is there EVER going to be a shockwave plugin for any browser but IE? Hell Macromedia hasn't even fixed the remote display bug in Flash that's been around for years.
That's damn funny man. I wish there wern't 40 posts between the parent and you so that I would have gotten the humor the first time.
About two months ago, I went looking for, found, and installed it, but it, apparently, doesn't have a Netscape plugin included, so I scrapped it and went with rp8, which was unavailable anywhere except through a Google search. Their web pages still had the registration process, but every mirror turned up empty. RP8 works just fine under Konq, though.
They are probably talking about the NSA's Linux project. Check freshmeat.net often and you're bound to see it there. There may be others, but that, at least, covers the paper's statement.
Actually, I wasn't talking about gradeschoolers, but high school or it's equivalent in other countries. And I wasn't proposing a special treatment for evolution, but it happened to be the thread's topic. I was speaking generally about all theories, about teaching our children to think and judge facts for themselves. I talked about debates, etc... Sorry if that was unclear: it was 1:00am here. I went to an International Baccalaureate program and that kind of thing was required. You could espouse any position, but you had better be able to back up your ideas with more than PR fluff.
I glanced down the page and saw no answers to your real question, so: K12LTSP is the answer. Most of the savings come because they are not using new computers. They are using old p133s picked up for $25 or donated, with the HDs ripped out and network booted as an X terminal. The cost of 5 terminals at about $20 per, plus a server and a switch puts it well under $1000. The server can even be (as mine is at my language lab) and old PIII 500 with tons of RAM. The guys at k12ltsp.org have put together a turnkey solution for this and they are the ones in the Oregon school system making half the stink. I love you, Eric!
My ISB program required forty hours per year
There is no way to conclusively kill Linux, so they will end up in the never ending skermish syndrome...
Linux, the Vietnam of the Software Wars?I never used 3.1, or 2, or 1, or 95, or 95a, and I started programming (in the US) in 1980
What he really said was We have no non-free systems or applications on them now, and our principles say we must keep it that way. I think the emphasis should be on "now."
Do I have an obligation to share those recipes with others? Absolutely not. Is it wrong of me to keep them for myself? No.
What's funny about this, is that most of the really good chefs are happy to give you any recipe of theirs that you ask for: they know you come to their restaurant for more than the food;they know you (probably) couldn't make it as well at home; and they think that keeping to themselves does no one any good. Do chefs have some sort of recipe sharing mandate? No, but they do it because they see it as good for everyone, even themselves. I always find a good corelation between the restaurant business and the emerging free-software business.Ummm....I don't think college kids get three digit user #'s
Not that I disagree with you, but I think it should be mentioned that Stallman views Linux as appropriating many possible Hurd developers, and so Hurd has taken much longer than it would if Linux were not available. I've read that before, but I can't find the link right now.
While I am not, at this point in my life, a Christian, and I believe the "Creation Scientists" are generally using anything but science to butress their case, I do think that they provide an important service. They harp on problems within the current set of theories that are taught, theories which are presented in schools with little or no rebuttal. Many people would like to have these theories presented as fact with no counter-claims, but I think a good debate in class on the issues helps everyone involved. For example, the systematic lack of transitional forms in the fossil record is one which calls into question the gradualistic evolution that was taught when I was in school (admittedly a while ago). Can teenagers be hurt by being presented both the pros and cons of the various theories in a balanced way?
Yeah, but you seem to blatently overlook the point that this information is not IN ANY WAY supportive of their position. In fact, it runs counter-culture to the military way of thinking. This is one of the major deciding factors in believability of historical documents, used across the board by scholars. Oh, and by the way, thanks for the compliment about my intelligence, since I know when to use "than" vs. "then" and "you yourself was" vs. "you, yourself, were." "Put down the flamethrower before you hurt yourself, Johnny.."
This guy is using Mandrake, remember? They have the Software Manager, if I remember correctly. You search for word processing, it tells you AbiWord and Kword, highlight those, click install, and it asks for the CDs in order. When you're finished, they're all on the KDE menu