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Slashback: Swiftness, Ender's, Streams

Slashback entries tonight convey updates on the upcoming Ender's Game movie, one (of many) dissenting voices about impressive network bandwidth, Ogg at the Beeb, and Cool Chips. Read on for more, and enjoy!

When it comes to records, context begets significance. Fandu writes: "In regards to the article about the new internet2 land speed record.. That is not correct, The Canadian CA*Net3 network is about 60X faster still. It may be a net speed record for Internet2, but it's certainly no new internet speed record. See the ABC Article about the network from a few years back and the NOC webpage."

And no one is in line for tickets yet? flea writes: "So, fans of orson scott card (to whom I was turned onto by luna) should be happy. The books Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow are on the track to being made into a movie. Script is being written and OSC is involved in the process. It's being made by Wolfgan Petersen, who has a few hits and misses (http://us.imdb.com/Name?Petersen,+Wolfgang); Air Force One and Outbreak are, well, ya know ... To his credit though, he did Enemy Mine, the movie with Louis Gossett Jr. playing the speach impediment'd alien trapped on a rock after a battle with Dennis Quaid and then LGj gives birth (wtf). C'mon, we all liked that. Anyway, it hasn't even started filming yet and the script isn't done, but things look good. More info here."

Speak up for Ogg Vorbis! SgtChaireBourne writes: "The BBC's testing period for Ogg Vorbis is now finished, but they are still soliciting feedback.

Now's the chance to add any words of encouragement to the BBC regarding Ogg, especially since, perhaps by oversight, RealOne (formerly RealPlayer) is now only available for Windows 98, 2000, ME, NT and XP. Currently, the download page for older versions seem to turn up empty for all requests for Linux versions, but deep links can still get you there.

As far as I can tell, the BBC is the first large (or even medium) news service to try Ogg. Here is last year's announcment on Slashdot about the start of the test."

"Sounds cool." blocksetter writes: "Cool Chips plc appreciates the interest of the Slashdot community. We've made an effort to address the points raised in last week's discussion of our technology and we've posted the resulting FAQ on our site. In the interest of conserving bandwidth, a text-only version is available for your viewing pleasure. We would like to thank everybody whose questions and criticisms inspired us to do this.

If there is something we haven't covered, you can also write directly to Cool Chips President Isaiah Cox, or to myself, Company Wonky Chris Bourne."

226 comments

  1. Ender's Game Awaited by totallygeek · · Score: 4, Interesting
    How many times have we heard that this will be made into a movie and then nothing happens? Is there serious money behind this project yet?

    1. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by Dragon218 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Personally, I don't really want to see the Ender series made into a movie. There is more to that series than just a kid fighting some aliens. The first book would be ok to see, but it will probably lose the political edge that was put in by Valentine and Peter.

      The other books in that series are more along the lines of metaphysical texts. The whole aspect of religion and first contact and the concequences that go along with it. I thought they would be honored more to stay on text.

      As far as the Ender's Shadow route... there is more hope for that series to (once it ends) make it on the silver screen. More of a political thriller / mystery, Ender's Shadow and Shadow of the Hegemon would appeal to people that don't really enjoy science fiction.

      It's really rather ironic. I was reading the Ender's game series (Speaker for the Dead, etc.) while on a religious retreat (curse you catholic school!) and the Ender's Shadow books around the September 11th events. I guess fate was all about putting me in the mood for these books.

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    2. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by maladroit · · Score: 2, Informative
      Well, if it's the same folks that did Enemy Mine, we'll be better off if it doesn't make it to a movie. Enemy Mine was a horrible adaptation of the original story, with critical plot elements (like the human reciting the other's lineage to his family) given short shrift, and way too much attention was given to Louis Gosset's makeup.

      Now, that may not all have been Wolfgang Petersen's fault, apparently he was brought in at the last minute to clean up somebody else's mess.

    3. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      that's not even the worst. he based his faith that a child could fill the role of Ender on the performance of young skywalker in Episode I...

      god help us all... "What's a metichloride sir?".. ugh

    4. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 1

      I truly hope it makes it this time. With the movie industry desperately looking for the next big movie, I think it will.

      There seem to be three trends in major movies right now - epics (LotR, Star Wars), series (Matrix, LotR, Star Wars), and comics (Spider-Man, Incredible Hulk). I think the scope of Ender's will be tempting enough for some nice funding.

      Of course, I could be insane.
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    5. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by howlingfrog · · Score: 2, Informative

      Enemy Mine was a horrible adaptation of the original story, with critical plot elements (like the human reciting the other's lineage to his family) given short shrift

      Note that Wolfgang Petersen was the director of Enemy Mine, NOT the screenwriter. The screenwriter is the one who makes the decisions of what to keep or leave out when adapting a book. If you think Orson Scott Card is going to let anyone else write the script, you haven't been paying much attention. He's been waiting for years to find a studio that would let him write the script, give him some say in the director and cast, etc. He's a perfectionist and a control freak, and would much rather never have the movie made than have it made without his input. I'm completely confident that if this movie is being made at all, it's being made the way Card wants it.

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    6. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Seems to me that by juggling things around a bit they could make two or three films out of the combined ender's Game/Ender's Shadow story.

      eg:

      Episode 1: Making it to Battle School, learning how to survive as launchies.
      Episode 2: Battle School, Bonzo, return of Achilles.
      Episode 3: Graduation and the battle with the Buggers (sorry, "Formics").

      This would make *some* room for the missing story threads such as (presumably) Peter and Valentine. Without whom there is little possibility of a movie treatment of the subsequent books without a major departure from the book story.

    7. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by MoneyT · · Score: 2

      The trends are because the movie industry is looking fo rsuper hero's again. They've figured out that the random action flicks and horibly bad comedies aren't selling as well as they thought. It's epic stories that make people talk and want to come back for more. Think about it, all of the movies you listed have a definate good guys v. bad guys sort of set up. Ask someone to identify the heros and they give you a group of about 3 -5 characters (for the larger epics) of people that are with out a doubt the good guys. The whole sort of not knowing really who's good or if there is a good that's been presented in a lot of movies recently (Traffic, Training Day, Spy Games etc) doesn't quite sit well with people. We want big battles between good and evil.

      Ender's Game really doesn't fit this role, but anyone who's read the book(s) will tell you that if done right it will make an incredible movie. What it all hinges on is whether or not it can come across with the same power that the book does, and make you go hmmm.

      For those of you wondering how the story could be told without Peter and Valentine I suggest you try to dig up a copy of the old S.F. magazine "Analog" in the volume labled Anthology #2 Readers Choice (1982 Edition) [if it helps, the magazines Library of Congress number is 80-69078] you will find a short story version of Ender's Game. If I recall correctly, OSC wrote this version long before he wrote the book and went back to the story at much prodding from friends to turn it into a book. Most likely, the movie will follow a formula of this type.

      Those of you looking to read some good S.F. & F that is on par with Ender's Game for being cool and visual should read Cobra (by Timothy Zahn) and the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant (by Stephen R. Donaldson)

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    8. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by K'tohg · · Score: 1
      but it will probably lose the political edge that was put in by Valentine and Peter

      I skipped that chapter and still loved the book to read it 5 times! Personaly I don't belive that chapter is nessiccary.

      I do not like the mix of Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow. Have them seperate movies. that's would be sooo cool. Film both at the same time like Lord Of the Ring. It waould be the best ever. I'd gladly pay 50 bucks per ticket for that! but I'm broke.

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    9. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by aWalrus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I thought they would be honored more to stay on text

      I think those should never be made into movies. I don't know about the rest of the slashdotters, but personally, apart from "speaker", the rest of the series seemed to lose its appeal. The characters were really, REALLY annoying. You meet them, you hate them, keep hoping they'll get better when they grow up, and they just keep on getting more and more obnoxious. Also, the sci-fi on the latter books gets just too metaphysical for my taste. The explanation for the instant space travel is just... flaky. The first book was really good, though, and shadow was so so.

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    10. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by Pedersen · · Score: 2
      Those of you looking to read some good S.F. & F that is on par with Ender's Game for being cool and visual should read Cobra (by Timothy Zahn) and the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant (by Stephen R. Donaldson)

      Thank you for that recommendation. I've read Ender's series, and I've read the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, Ur-Lord and White Gold Wielder. I can honestly say that no other books have ever had the punch that those series did.

      Ender's Game taught me what horror really is. And The Wounded Land showed me one of the most beautiful moments in any book I've ever read (around page 180, it actually brought tears to my eyes, when the Giants got their caamora.

      So, I'll be picking up Cobra tomorrow, and hoping for the same greatness.

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    11. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by fava · · Score: 1
      I love the Idea, however I suspect that this will be one of those movies that I refuse to watch because of the fond memories I have of the original.

      Starship Troopers and the new Grinch are are just two examples of movies that I will not watch because they were not true to the original. And its hard because my kids own and love the new Grinch, I end up leaving the room whenever they start to watch it.

    12. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by mder · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Dang ! So I think 'Hmmm, I just need to check a detail or two', so I track down the book... that was 4 hours ago. I hate it when that happens :)!

      There are so many ways they could gruesomely mangle such a delicate story it's scary. This could make Lynch's Dune look like a sensitive interpretation.

      Perhaps we should put our faith in child abuse. We need a 'Friends of Ender' organisation to suggest to Hollywood ( well, anyone who'll listen... ) that Ender's Game glorifies abusive relationships with children, seeks to justify the use of children as soldiers ( I'm sure there's a UN Treaty or something about that ), encourages children who use the net to deceive others about their age, and is actually little more than a twisted shadow of Lord of the Flies.

      Now done as dark Manga, that might be a different picture...

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    13. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by Schion65 · · Score: 1

      I agree that the remainder of the books in the Ender's Game series would be difficult to transfer to celluloid. However, I feel that there is enormous potential for them. Trully amazing movies could be constructed from the thoughts and ideas contained in that book. It would be nice to see more movies that make intelligent commentary on existance. Oh yeah, the Ender's Shadow books. It's like they were written for film. We all know how well political intrigue films (based on books) do. Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan series for example. Two questions, what single book, and what series of novels, would you most like to see put in film? Mine? Treason, by Orson Scott Card and The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan (it would take decades for this to be done).

    14. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by mofolotopo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that was my reaction...this has been "news" on Card's site for literally years now. Funny enough, it seems that most of his biggest fans are bitterly opposed to it, including myself. There's just no way that the depth of that book can be made into a movie, and I honestly think that they shouldn't even try. Especially with that little Annakin kid who can't act his way out of a paper bag who, last I heard, was Card's pick for Ender. Seriously, if it comes out, I don't think there's any way I won't go see it....but I also don't think there's any way it will live up to the completely justified expectations people have of it.

      Even Card himself doesn't seem to understand this, though, as he's talked a lot about toning down the violence in the movies, thinking that people won't accept that kind of harsh behavior between children. He may be right, but it's that very brutality that gave Ender's Game its power. The worst part is that Ender's Game has the inherent ability to be turned into the absolute worst kind of drivel by an incompetent screentwriter or director. Think about it...kids, aliens...when was the last GOOD movie you saw that combined the two? Unless I'm overlooking one, the last I recall was E.T.

      Just my two cents, and boy do I hope I'm wrong.

    15. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by mofolotopo · · Score: 1

      Just a little nitpicking on the categorization here. The stars of Spider-Man have already signed up to do another, making it a series also. I like it well enough that I don't mind at all.

    16. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by mofolotopo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but if you read his page you'll see that the way he wants it isn't the way he wrote it. It will be changed, and not for the best IMHO.

    17. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, OTOH Das Boot is the best submarine-movie there is. (You should watch it with the original German sound though.) U-571 looks lika an amateur video compared to it.

    18. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by NearlyHeadless · · Score: 2
      Note that Wolfgang Petersen was the director of Enemy Mine, NOT the screenwriter. The screenwriter is the one who makes the decisions of what to keep or leave out when adapting a book.

      Screenwriters everywhere wish they had that much control. In reality, the producer, screenwriter, director, and editor all shape what ends up on the screen. Occasionally the studio executives re-edit the film.
    19. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The way Hollywood would do it:

      One movie, three acts:

      Act 1: Making it to Battle School, learning how to survive as launchies.
      Act 2: Battle School, Bonzo, return of Achilles.
      Act 3: Graduation and the battle with the Buggers

      And cut as much of what few interesting bits the books had.

    20. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by sn0g · · Score: 1

      ...seeks to justify the use of children as soldiers ( I'm sure there's a UN Treaty or something about that )

      Yeah, there's a U.N. treaty about that. Guess names of the only the two countries on the entire planet that wouldn't sign.

      A: Somalia and the United States of America.

    21. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by Rand+Race · · Score: 1
      I watched part of Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame with my nephew and got physically ill. Now I see why Disney wants to keep their copyrights in perpetuity... so no one will do to Mickey what they did to Quasimodo. And don't get me started on Starship Troopers... Aliens was a better version of that book than Veerhoven's monumental paen to shitty sci-fi moviemaking.

      Not being particularly impressed with the book (it was OK, but not groundbreaking like so many find it), I doubt a lame movie version of Ender's Game will be my cup of tea.

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    22. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      back in the 80's Battle Field Earth had a spot on the cover "soon to be a major motion picture!"

      then some 15+ years later it finaly got made... and it SUCKED ASS!

      i'm starting to worry.

    23. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by mofolotopo · · Score: 1

      ...and then they show it to a focus group, and on the basis of that change the ending so that it's happy, and add a monkey or talking teddy bear.

    24. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by Sorklin · · Score: 2
      Hey, Stop yer cryin. We had to wait a long time for D&D and look what happened.

      Wait. Bad example.

    25. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by MoneyT · · Score: 2

      One other one I remembered was (but only if you're into deep stuff) Sphere was a good book (Michael Chriton I believe wrote it). The movie on the other hand sucked.

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    26. Re:Ender's Game Awaited by Zarquon · · Score: 2

      Cobra is from Zahn's earlier writings.. can't remember if it's back in print at the moment, you may have to comb used books stores. It's a very decent example of military sci-fi, but has an... aged feel. Much the same tone as a lot of novels from the Vietnam war era.

      I haven't read too much of Zahn.. Warhorse was an interesting standalone, and not too stereotypical.
      The Thrawn trilogy is very good, IMHO head and shoulders above the rest of the Star Wars novels. Spinneret was a good, light, read. Deadman switch is, well, weird. It's a suspense novel, so it isn't nearly as good a read the second time, but was quite riveting the first time.

      .. just checked. Cobra, and it's sequels (which I have not found) are all out of print.

      If you like Military Sci-fi, I heartily recommend David Webber's Honor Harrington series. The first two books in the series are available in the Baen Free Library.

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  2. On the internet record by xRizen · · Score: 2

    I think the record wasn't just that they transmitted at that speed, but that they did it over the massively long distance which they did, over oceans and all. I don't think an intra-Canadian network can really claim that they transmit as far.

    1. Re:On the internet record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but it can still claim 60x faster speeds than the "record-breaker." Of course if CA*NET were US*NET, your message would read somewhat closer to this:

      On the internet record (Score:1)
      by xRizen on Thursday May 23, @08:03PM (#3576121)
      (User #319121 Info)

      I think the record was pretty great, but we've already beaten this speed before -- US*NET was up to 60x faster. GO US*NET!

    2. Re:On the internet record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ummm ... read the article and look at a map. CAnet3 stretches accross Canada ... 4,500 miles. in my books, that is a ways.

    3. Re:On the internet record by ipfwadm · · Score: 2

      ummm ... read the article and look at a map. CAnet3 stretches accross Canada ... 4,500 miles. in my books, that is a ways.

      ummm ... read the original article and look at a map. Alaska is on one side of Canada, Amsterdam (Netherlands) is not only on the other side of Canada, but it's also across an ocean. Assuming there are no network cables running through the Arctic (so no great circle route is possible), it stands to reason that Alaska->Amsterdam is far longer than any point-to-point connection within Canada. And in fact, the original article states that the distance is 7,608 miles (12,272 km). In my book, that's farther than 4,500 miles.

  3. Ender's Game by Torinaga-Sama · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Man, I hope they find a lot of good child actors. With the exception of the sixth Sence and the City of Lost Children I have yet to see an excellent job done by a child filling a more adult personality.

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    1. Re:Ender's Game by SanGrail · · Score: 1

      Er, I can think of a few movies where the child actors seemed better than the adults...
      Wait - adult personality.

      Ok, then I'd add the girl that played Claudia in Interview with a Vampire.

      Kirsten Dunst? Which makes it in IMHO her best role.

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    2. Re:Ender's Game by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 1

      how about the others...the girl was pretty good?

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    3. Re:Ender's Game by 3Suns · · Score: 3, Funny

      Short a few good child actors? Pschaw... just CG 'em! I thought Yoda did a pretty darn good job in AotC...

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    4. Re:Ender's Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Natalie Portman in Nikita.

    5. Re:Ender's Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      rofl, smoking crack and screwed the last one up, meant Leon.

  4. I thought I might add... by cscx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now's the chance to add any words of encouragement to the BBC regarding Ogg, especially since, perhaps by oversight, RealOne (formerly RealPlayer) is now only available for Windows 98, 2000, ME, NT and XP.

    WinAmp has support for playing Ogg Vorbis files.

    Funny someone would name an encoding format after a caveman...

    1. Re:I thought I might add... by Atrax · · Score: 2, Informative

      > Funny someone would name an encoding format after a caveman...

      and there was me thinking it was a Terry Pratchett reference. (Nanny Ogg + Vorbis the Exquisitor)

      signed
      confused

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    2. Re:I thought I might add... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Funny someone would name an encoding format after a caveman...

      Dude, the guy's name is OOG, OPEN SOURCE CAVEMAN. Not Ogg, OOG. O-O-G.

      Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!

    3. Re:I thought I might add... by Mike+McTernan · · Score: 1

      Yup - and it is absolutely cracking.

      I used to listen to BCC Radio 1 through Winamp, but don't now that I would have to use Real and be subject to it's anoying updates and poor performance.

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  5. transgaming by ukyoCE · · Score: 3, Interesting

    transgaming is awesome software! I've just been playing Warcraft 2 (Battle-net edition, the old one was DOS and needs Dosemu), Deus Ex, and Counter-strike. All without leaving linux, and all *with* the ability to change workspaces to talk in Gaim while I'm playing (in between rounds of counter-strike can get tedious, after all).

    1. Re:transgaming by Unknown+Lamer · · Score: 2

      transgaming is awesome software! I've just been playing Warcraft 2 (Battle-net edition, the old one was DOS and needs Dosemu), Deus Ex, and Counter-strike. All without leaving linux, and all *with* the ability to change workspaces to talk in Gaim while I'm playing (in between rounds of counter-strike can get tedious, after all).

      War2: BNE worked fine for me when I played it using regular WINE a year or so ago. Counter-strike also works fine with regular WINE. I don't know about Deus Ex (I think you can grab the beta version that Loki almost [or was it finally released? I know there was an issue with the unrealscript stuff...] released from one of the Loki ftp mirrors [check lokigames.com for a list]). Since I don't use proprietary software anymore (I run a completely Free machine...woo), I don't use WINE for gaming anymore. But WINE still has a use: I use it to run VTI (GPL) because gtktiemu can't emulate the Z80 based calculators (ti82, ti83[+|SE], ti86). I really should recompile that using libwine...(I know the calc rom is evil and proprietary...)

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  6. realone player by moronic1 · · Score: 1

    They do have a version for linux that is either alpha or beta, the link is very hard to find.. if I find it again Ill reply to this..

    1. Re:realone player by moronic1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      instructions and link to get it: RealOne
      There is NO direct link to the download because of the registration process.
      Here is how to get it:
      1) Goto http://scopes.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html
      2) Fill in the form and Choose Linux 2.x (libc6 i386).
      3) click on "Download Community Supported Player"
      4) Don't click on the normal download links. Go look at the very bottom of the page. You will see
      " RealOne Player for Unix - Preview Release If you would like to try the alpha version of RealOne Player for Linux 2.2 x86, use the button below." 5) Click on that button and download

    2. Re:realone player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      How about this!

      or this!

    3. Re:realone player by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      About two months ago, I went looking for, found, and installed it, but it, apparently, doesn't have a Netscape plugin included, so I scrapped it and went with rp8, which was unavailable anywhere except through a Google search. Their web pages still had the registration process, but every mirror turned up empty. RP8 works just fine under Konq, though.

  7. Forgetting some films? by SmackDown · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wolfgang Petersen also did Das Boot, one of the best war movies of all time. (IMHO) This could be a spectacular film under his direction.

    1. Re:Forgetting some films? by jake-in-a-box · · Score: 1

      How about The Never Ending Story?

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    2. Re:Forgetting some films? by TotallyUseless · · Score: 4, Funny

      I dont think The Neverending Story was as gripping of a war movie as Das Boot.

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    3. Re:Forgetting some films? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for mentioning Das Boot, probably his best work.

    4. Re:Forgetting some films? by alacqua · · Score: 1
      Didn't he also do "The boat"? Great movie.



      Yes, I'm kidding.

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  8. Ender's Game... ugh by bani · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It wasn't that good of a book (it won a 1986 Hugo? Geez. Must have been a dry year), so I can't imagine it will be a terribly good movie.

    Give us Larry Niven movies instead!

    1. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by hoowee · · Score: 1
      I always considered it "required geek reading"... I actually read it just to add it to the list of things that didn't go over my head on /. ;)

      It's a quick read and a decent story, but it's more the stuff of TV movies than blockbuster cinema.

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    2. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      DIE you BASTARD!!!!!!!

      It was a great book

    3. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by WotanKhan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ya know, I had the same impression the first time through. Borrowed it with a batch of high-fantasy sci-fi from a friend, read it in a couple days, and thought it was a nice piece of fluff.

      It was after reading Speaker for the Dead and being totally blown away, that I went back and reread Ender's. The second time through, I noticed the themes and characters had much more depth than I'd perceived the first time. It really is quite well though-out, prophetic and moving. The ending section (after battle school) is a bit rough though, and contributed to the weak first impression.

    4. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by Da+Schmiz · · Score: 2
      What!?!

      Ender's Game is a great book... totally deserved the Hugo. Even if you didn't like it much, read some of the sequels -- both the Ender sequels (Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, etc.) and the Shadow sequels (Ender's Shadow, Shadow of the Hegemon, etc.) are very well done as well. Intelligent stories with all the character interplay, mind games, and plot twists of a Herbert or Asimov.

      If they can do anywhere near as good a job with this as with Spider-Man (read: a few minor changes from the original, a few dumb scenes, but still an enjoyable movie), I'd be more than willing to plop down $20 or whatever a movie will cost in 2006.

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    5. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by fermion · · Score: 1
      Ender's game is actually a very good book, at least for it's time. Nicely written, good plot, good ending. It is not literature, and I am not sure how it has held up over the past 15+ years. Certainly the sequels became increasingly stupid, mostly written to capitilize on the original, and his other books are pretty much complete trash.

      That said, Ender's Game may be a bit too complex for the movies. It is likely to suffer the same fate as "Starship Troopers." Not a bad movie, good concept, but very difficult to do correctly.

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    6. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by phillymjs · · Score: 2

      Give us Larry Niven movies instead!

      I dunno, I think The Outer Limits would be the best vehicle for his stuff. They did a pretty good job with "Inconstant Moon" already.

      I'd really love to see them do something with "Flash Crowd," though.

      ~Philly

    7. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by IronChef · · Score: 0, Offtopic


      Flamebait? You didn't deserve that. I didn't like the book either.

      I'd rather read a REAL SF classic like War of the Worlds.

    8. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by 1010011010 · · Score: 2

      I'm guessing a Niven movie would involve a species with uncontrollable breeding pressures and limited resources...

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    9. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by raventh1 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Well, he actually did deserve flamebait, he was expressing the opposite of what everyone else was, and not very politely, usually I dont mind controversy, but when People "Hate" or "Extrememly Dislike" I personally tend to put them in a "Flamebait" catagory :D; (Hehe, here comes Mod -1; Troll :D) raVen

    10. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, he actually did deserve flamebait, he was expressing the opposite of what everyone else was

      LOL, you said it.

    11. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Find some of his early short stories. I was introduced to his work in Omni magazine in the late seventies and, much as I enjoyed the first few Enders, none of his novels approach that level of writing.

    12. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by shogun · · Score: 2

      would involve a species with uncontrollable breeding pressures and limited resources...

      Like humans?

    13. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by Samrobb · · Score: 2
      A lot of Niven's Known Space stories would work, but Hollywood would probably warp them into special effects bonanzas. Pulling together a couple of the Draco tavern tales might work, though.... and the Gil Hamilton stories would work really well (near enough future that you don't need to explain everything, enough SF to keep things interesting.).

      All in all, though, I'd much rather see something from Clifford Simak's works done instead... "Mastadonia", "Cemetary World", or... mmmm... "The Big Front Yard". (IMDB does list Anomaliya, based on "All Flesh is Grass". Wonder how good that is.)

      (And what the @*&!^#*&? happened to the "Watchmen" movie?)

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    14. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by silentbozo · · Score: 2

      The novella would be the easiest to translate to the screen. Less character baggage to explain, simpler to build a screenplay off of (as opposed to translating a novel, where great big hunks of exposition and internal viewpoints get hacked off to fit the medium.) It wouldn't be the Ender's Game we know, but there's no way it ever would, even if it was OSC writing the script himself. You can't step into the same river twice.

    15. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ender's Game may be a bit too complex for the movies. It is likely to suffer the same fate as "Starship Troopers."

      Actually I found Starship Troopers to be if anything too close to the book. I read the book after seeing the movie. I HATED the book. It was just a little left of Adolf Hitler. You must serve to vote! Enders Game is much better than Troopers IMHO.

    16. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a lot of people do not know is that the Ender's books are based a lot on Mormon teachings. Since OSC is a member of the Churh of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints it should not be a shock.
      We joke that the Homecomming books are the Book Of Mormon. Read them then the BOM and you will see what I mean.
      The Alvin books are a super fictionalized verson of the life of J. Smith.
      Enders books are... Deep Doctran 101.
      I recomend them all highly.

    17. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I truly enjoyed the book, and it's stood up on re-reading... but I was shocked to see it in Chapters the other day... in the children's section.

      Perhaps it's an understandable mistake, given the Ender's age in the book... but isn't the ending a bit harsh for a child?

      Then again, I'm shocked when I reread many of the books I read when I was young. C.S. Lewis's Narnia series isn't exactly light reading, nor is Susan Cooper's "The Dark is Rising" series.

      Maybe I'm more sensitive now that I'm older?

    18. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by Yunzil · · Score: 1

      both the Ender sequels (Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, etc.)

      Actually, while I love Ender's Game, I thought the sequels were complete, unadulterated, Grade-A crap. I struggled to get through the second one. I *barely* made it through the third one. I leafed through the fourth one at the book store and put it back on the shelf.

    19. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by Da+Schmiz · · Score: 2
      Hmm... given the multiplicity of opinions about this, I think it's time for a /. poll:

      Ender's Game?

      1. The short story was good...
      2. Book was great, sequels were stupid
      3. Book was so-so, sequels were great
      4. OSC is the greatest!
      5. Wouldn't be the same without Peter & Valentine
      6. Ender Wiggin? Doesn't he post to /. sometimes?
      7. CoyboyNeal Army would send Dragon Army crying home to mommy!
      8. Share this dragon. If you do, lucky end for me and you.
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    20. Re:Ender's Game... ugh by Telastyn · · Score: 2

      I've always thought Ender's game was supposed to end after the 'victory'. Lunacy or suicide ties everything up, and everyone is happy. "The good of the many(us)..." and all that. It's like the publisher came down from on high and forced Card to write a happy ending. I hope the movie ends where the book should've.

  9. Wonky? by avalys · · Score: 3, Funny

    What an unfortunate job title...what the hell is a 'Company Wonky'?

    I bet that looks real good on a resume.

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    1. Re:Wonky? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, it gets better. Here's the actual definition of wonky:

      Main Entry: wonky
      Pronunciation: 'wä[ng]-kE
      Function: adjective
      Etymology: probably alteration of English dialect wankle, from Middle English wankel, from Old English wancol; akin to Old High German wankOn to totter -- more at WENCH
      Date: 1919
      1 British : UNSTEADY, SHAKY
      2 British : AWRY, WRONG

    2. Re:Wonky? by nanojath · · Score: 1

      You know, like in star wars - "I'd rather kiss a Wonky"?

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  10. Who is luna? by Hatter · · Score: 3, Funny
    So, fans of orson scott card (to whom I was turned onto by luna) should be happy.

    Who is luna? Are slashdot submissions going to have shout-outs in them like MTV's TRL now?

    1. Re:Who is luna? by EvlG · · Score: 2

      This brings up an interesting point.

      Why aren't submissions to /. edited?

      Often they contain spelling errors, gramamr errors, or other crap that isn't relevant to the story being posted. In particular, the submitter's commentary on the article/gadget/etc or other comments not related to the submission are often included verbatim.

      Why don't /. editors edit this out? It would really improve the professionalism and cohesiveness of the site.

    2. Re:Who is luna? by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2

      You're suggesting that the Slashdot editors check someone's spelling and grammer?!? Please tell me that you're joking.

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    3. Re:Who is luna? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The scary part is, THEY ARE EDITTED.

      Look at the quality of the editorial comments to see even worse.

    4. Re:Who is luna? by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      Two comments about grammar, two different misspellings? Is that a record or something?

  11. the crack you smoke. by gimpboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    i hope you were joking. if not you are one of the first people to say that about that book. personally, i really liked it, but thats just me.

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  12. Re:Important info by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    Yes, but if you really read the books you'd know that that is how bugger colonies greet each other. Ender just shakes hands really enthusiastically, is all.

  13. Ender's game movie? by RESPAWN · · Score: 3, Funny

    So they're finally going to do a movie based on it? Oh great. Yet another movie for the slashdot community to bitch about. ;)

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    1. Re:Ender's game movie? by Artifex · · Score: 2

      So they're finally going to do a movie based on it? Oh great. Yet another movie for the slashdot community to bitch about. ;)

      Bugger that talk.

      Ever seen The Neverending Story? Yah?

      Same director.

      'Nuff said. Be quiet. I think OSC knows what he's doing.

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    2. Re:Ender's game movie? by RESPAWN · · Score: 1

      Dude. I have no doubt in my mind that with Card involved they will be able to make a great movie. I obviously haven't seen the movie yet, but I already know that I'm going to enjoy it. I just can't say the same for the rest of the /. crowd. :-D

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  14. Ender's Game Movie - Don't Hold Your Breath by donnacha · · Score: 5, Interesting


    The long developmental time for films is a frustrating and, sometimes, sad thing. One of our greatest writers, Philip K. Dick, died just before getting to see the screen adaptation of his fabulous novel, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Ridley Scott's Blade Runner.

    That was particulary sad because, as told in Lawrence Sutin's excellent Divine Invasions : A Life of Philip K. Dick, this would have been a self-vindicating landmark in a life tortured by schizophrenia and criminal disregard by literary critics.

    It's worth noting that Douglas Adams also died after years trying to get a film of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy off the ground.

    1. Re:Ender's Game Movie - Don't Hold Your Breath by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, should we kill Orson Scott Card in order to see the movie in *our* lifetime?

    2. Re:Ender's Game Movie - Don't Hold Your Breath by donnacha · · Score: 2


      So, should we kill Orson Scott Card in order to see the movie in *our* lifetime?

      It couldn't hurt.

      I mean, Hollywood is the one place where dying improves your career prospects.

    3. Re:Ender's Game Movie - Don't Hold Your Breath by sjflory · · Score: 1

      Having read "Do Andriods Dream of Electric Sheep?", and seen Blade Runner.

      I'm left to think maybe Ridley Scotts death was a blessing.

    4. Re: Ender's Game Movie - Don't Hold Your Breath by rossz · · Score: 2
      Philip K. Dick, died just before getting to see the screen adaptation of his fabulous novel, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"
      Fabulous? You've got to be kidding. I bought the book after being blown away by the movie Blade Runner. After reading "Do Androids...", my only thought was how did they make such a great movie out of that huge, steaming, stinking pile of doggy poo. The book is beyond bad. It's dreadful. It's crap. It's major shit. My god, I can't believe I wasted a couple of hours of my life on that garbage!
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    5. Re:Ender's Game Movie - Don't Hold Your Breath by Nick+Number · · Score: 2

      I'm left to think maybe Ridley Scotts death was a blessing.

      Ridley Scott is alive and well. Philip K. Dick is not.

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    6. Re:Ender's Game Movie - Don't Hold Your Breath by Artifex · · Score: 2

      I'm left to think maybe Ridley Scotts death was a blessing.

      You mean Philip K. Dick, right? Ridley is still very much alive - or haven't you heard of that recent little picture he did, Black Hawk Down? I think it won some awards, or something. =)

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    7. Re: Ender's Game Movie - Don't Hold Your Breath by donnacha · · Score: 4, Insightful


      Fabulous? You've got to be kidding. I bought the book after being blown away by the movie Blade Runner. After reading "Do Androids...", my only thought was how did they make such a great movie out of that huge, steaming, stinking pile of doggy poo. The book is beyond bad. It's dreadful. It's crap. It's major shit. My god, I can't believe I wasted a couple of hours of my life on that garbage!

      Perhaps it makes more sense to read Philip K. Dick's stuff sequentially, starting with his early short stories. That way you can get into his deliciously paranoid mindset. He was the pioneer and absolute master of that unique sense of foreboding that made films like Blade Runner and Total Recall so interesting.

    8. Re: Ender's Game Movie - Don't Hold Your Breath by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FWIW, Dick even hated DADOES. Also, Total Recall didn't really preserve the theme of We Can Remember It For You Wholesale, very different payoff...

    9. Re:Ender's Game Movie - Don't Hold Your Breath by NoTheory · · Score: 1

      except, you know, the music industry, tv, the news-media and painting... having hung around at hatrack as long as i have, this does appear to be a legitimate drive to try and get this film actually made... i think philoticweb.net has more info on it as well.

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    10. Re: Ender's Game Movie - Don't Hold Your Breath by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      Funny, I read the book first and thought the movie was a big disapointment.

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    11. Re: Ender's Game Movie - Don't Hold Your Breath by warmcat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I am on the side of the original poster, Do Androids... is an excellent book filled with great ideas.

      Dick turned down big bucks when the studio wanted to suppress the original work and put of a piece-of-shit 'book of the movie' based on the script instead. That took guts and integrity on his part.

      However, I'm not surprised that if you came to the book through the glitzy movie which homogenized the ideas in the original, you were disappointed. IMHO it doesn't reflect well on you that you would have been happy with a rehash of the script in the book (what would be the point? You already saw the film) and not the challenging and valuable document you got instead. :-(

    12. Re:Ender's Game Movie - Don't Hold Your Breath by dazed-n-confused · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The long developmental time for films is a frustrating and, sometimes, sad thing. One of our greatest writers, Philip K. Dick, died just before getting to see the screen adaptation of his fabulous novel, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?", Ridley Scott's Blade Runner.

      That said, he apparently *loved* the bits of the unfinished film that he was shown. (My source: the rather excellent book "Future Noir: the Making of Blade Runner", by Paul M Sammon).

  15. RealOne Player Here by eviltypeguy · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is NO direct link to the download because of theregistration process.

    Here is how to get it:

    1) Goto http://scopes.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html
    2) Fill in the form and Choose Linux 2.x (libc6 i386).
    3) click on "Download Community Supported Player"
    4) Don't click on the normal download links. Go look at the very
    bottom of the page. You will see

    " RealOne Player for Unix - Preview Release
    If you would like to try the alpha version of RealOne Player for
    Linux 2.2 x86, use the button below."

    5) Click on that button and download.

    1. Re:RealOne Player Here by eviltypeguy · · Score: 1

      Not redundant because I was unaware of the post above, I had looked to see if anyone else had said that, I wouldn't have postd it otherwise.

  16. read the letter from Card by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I gotta say, I'm not to thrilled that he never thought a child actor could handle Ender until he (paraphrase) "suddenly realized it was possible to when he saw Episode I..."

    I liked the book, but anyone who bases his faith in kids with the robotic acting ability of your skywalker in Episode I REAAALLY needs to raise his sights. I know a dog that could play the role with more charisma than that kid.

    -rt

  17. Quantum Mechanics for Dummies by jimmcq · · Score: 1

    OK, so apparently these "Cool Chips" are based on quantum phyics... where can I find a good "Quantum Mechanics for Dummies" book? (seriously)

    I'd settle for a good "introduction to quantum physics" article, but I think I need something to help me get my brain wrapped around these concepts. I understand the whole multiple universe thing (sort of), but it just seems so mind-blowing.

    1. Re:Quantum Mechanics for Dummies by jimmcq · · Score: 1

      I guess I always get confused someplace inbetween Schrödinger's Cat and what I've learned from Star Trek.

    2. Re:Quantum Mechanics for Dummies by Lish · · Score: 1

      I don't know offhand, but I'll bet if you write to this guy:

      http://www.physics.umn.edu/classes/s1905.001

      and ask what book(s) he used for the class it'd be helpful.

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    3. Re:Quantum Mechanics for Dummies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Schrodinger's Cat" is a start from the beginngs of quantum physics.


      The field has expanded a lot since then, I find that reading the popular scientific journals like Scientific American and New Scientist gives me a fairly broad knowlage of a lot of bleeding edge science. [tho it seems that flavor of the month at the moment is genetics] If you can get Sci Am from a couple of years ago, you'll find a lot of articales about various areas of research in quantum physics


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    4. Re:Quantum Mechanics for Dummies by E-prospero · · Score: 2

      If you're serious about understanding the topic, and not just looking for a "QM in 21 days for Idiots in a Nutshell" version, hunt down Richard Feynmann's "Lectures on Physics" series, especially Volume III (IIRC). He was an incredibly intelligent man, and a gifted communicator; the lecture series is a good (if complex) read.

      Russ %-)

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    5. Re:Quantum Mechanics for Dummies by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 2

      Check out Kuro5hin.org for 2 good articles by a guy trying to get his Doctorate in particle physics. The first article is: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/5/1/3712/31700

      The second is: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/5/14/19363/8142

      Both are general physics introductions, but they talk about quantium structure. There are also several good articles on howstuffworks.com explaining specifics of physics in detail.

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    6. Re:Quantum Mechanics for Dummies by Vireo · · Score: 1

      I don't think this is exactly what you're looking for, but if you really want to know more, the book we used in my first quantum physics course was Quantum Physics of Atoms, Molecules, Solids, Nuclei and Particles by R. Eisberg and R. Resnick, edited at Wiley. It assumes basic knowledge of classical physics and calculus, but it is otherwise addressed to undergrads. You would probably be interested only by the first few chapters. The introduction of Schrodinger's equation, even if a little convoluted when you know of other, more advanced but more direct approaches, is quite interesting and not too hard to follow.

    7. Re:Quantum Mechanics for Dummies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Dummies" are not relevent to the future of the species.

    8. Re:Quantum Mechanics for Dummies by twiztidlojik · · Score: 2, Informative

      Er, there's this nifty layman's book called A Brief History Of Time by Steven Hawking. I found this book particularly interesting because he explains everything in nice simple terms and doesn't assume you've just taken a college-level calc course. Of course, i'll probably get flamed to a crisp for even mentioning this book or something.

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    9. Re:Quantum Mechanics for Dummies by tcdk · · Score: 1

      Just want to backup this one up - I really enjoyed A Brief History of Time.

      Not much math, takes it slow, yet keeps it interesting.

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    10. Re:Quantum Mechanics for Dummies by Thud457 · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately (?), you are sadly mistaken.

      The fact of the matter is that just about any two idiots of appropriate sex can bear children.
      There's always room for Eris to hand out random death. How many PhDs die in car wrecks each year?

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  18. More importantly by BeBoxer · · Score: 5, Informative

    The land speed record is not how fast your network is in aggregate. It's how fast and how far you can push a single pair of hosts using TCP. How fast the backbone links are on CANet is entirely irrelevant. Lot's of big providers have links running at OC-12 or OC-48, both of which are faster than 400Mbps. Abilene itself routinely runs links at over 400Mbps 24/7. Check out the graphs

    But how fast an aggregate link is isn't the point. It's how fast you can send data from one computer to another. If you've ever actually tried to send data at over 100Mbps on the WAN, you would know how hard it is. To get 400Mbps requires the link to not only be fast enough, but to have essentially zero loss. And to get several networks that are that clean, especially to Europe, is pretty amazing. If you don't believe me, try sending a CD's worth of data across your room at that speed. Never mind sending it across the Atlantic Ocean.

    1. Re:More importantly by Vireo · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you don't believe me, try sending a CD's worth of data across your room at that speed.

      Done. I broke the jewel case though.

    2. Re:More importantly by bobv-pillars-net · · Score: 0

      My God will somebody please mod this up as funny!

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  19. This script thus far is HORRIBLE by ShieldWolf · · Score: 4, Informative

    I am a huge fan of the book but has anyone read the scriptment that OSC put up on the net? Ughhhh it was BAD It sounded more like Wing Commander than Ender's Game. Anderson is turned into a woman, Bean is more prominent in order to do the sequel (sidequel), Peter and Valentine are removed from the story altogether. The P and V thing I understand, a lot of the other stuff just shows how bad a FILM writer OSC is.

    my $.02

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    1. Re:This script thus far is HORRIBLE by Rashan · · Score: 1

      Any idea where one might find a copy of the script that OSC put up?

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    2. Re:This script thus far is HORRIBLE by howlingfrog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Keep in mind that a 100-page book tells about as much story as a two-hour movie. Ender's Game is more than 300 pages. Some stuff has to be left out or changed. And also keep in mind that the very early draft that Card put online three or four years ago is NOT "the script thus far." It was written before he realized there were enough good child actors to keep the focus of the story on the children, and before he wrote Ender's Shadow.

      Anderson is turned into a woman
      So what? Point to one place in the book where Anderson's gender makes the slightest bit of difference. In a visual medium, Anderson works better as a foil to Graff as a woman.

      Bean is more prominent in order to do the sequel
      Bean is more prominent because he's an interesting character. Card regretted not doing more with him in the first place, that's why he wrote ES. Exploring the superficial similarities and subtle but important differences between Bean and Ender is interesting enough to warrant combining EG and ES into one movie--Card originally planned to do them separately.

      As for Peter and Valentine, the reason EG is the book Card is trying to get filmed, instead of some of his other wonderful novels, is that the main storyline would work as a movie. Peter and Valentine aren't part of the main storyline. In Card's original short story, they didn't even exist. The story works without them, and their subplot would make for pretty boring cinema--all they do is talk and write. There's some stuff that works better in text, and some stuff that works better in drama. Peter and Valentine are firmly in the former category.

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    3. Re:This script thus far is HORRIBLE by agm · · Score: 1

      Peter and Valentine played more central roles in the 3 sequels, so does cutting them out of the EG movie pretty much rule the 3 sequels also moving to Hollywood?

    4. Re:This script thus far is HORRIBLE by RetroGeek · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind that a 100-page book

      Ender's Game was originally a short story. I've read both. I don't think the full book adds that much more to the central plot. A lot of political side stuff that detracts from the central theme of having children as generals.

      I kind of liked the short story better.

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    5. Re:This script thus far is HORRIBLE by gaspyy · · Score: 1

      Peter and Valentine are VITAL in order to understand Ender.

      If you remove them, Ender becomes a shallow cardboard character - "the super-intelligent kid trained by the government to save the Earth from killer bugs from outer space". Bam! "Ender's Game" becomes "Starship Troopers".

      No, thanks.

    6. Re:This script thus far is HORRIBLE by Da+Schmiz · · Score: 2
      Peter and Valentine are VITAL in order to understand Ender.
      Agreed. 100 percent.

      But (as I understand it) we aren't talking about cutting Peter and/or Valentine out of the story entirely. We're talking about cutting the whole Locke/Demosthenes subplot. Of course, this leaves Peter and Valentine as both shallow cardboard characters, but I'd be willing to live with that if Ender came across okay.

      Even so, Valentine was never really developed until Speaker, and Peter didn't really even become a character until Children of the Mind. (At least in the original series -- Shadow of the Hegemon does a good job of developing his character too.) Card could probably cut the chapters on their political maneuverings and then integrate that into the sequels.

      Of course, that makes it hard to do Hegemon, since Bean's email to Locke and Demosthenes toward the end of Ender's Shadow is a vital plot point in the development of his relationship with Peter, and since the script apparently tries to combine Game and Shadow.

      Hmmm... I still think he might be able to pull it off, but there's a huge potential for him to blow it. I'm hoping they do it right.

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    7. Re:This script thus far is HORRIBLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ender's Game is more than 300 pages.

      Actually, it's 226 pages.

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  20. CoolChips by sulli · · Score: 2
    Q - Heat can't disappear, so where does it go?
    A - To the other side of the chip. From there it still has to be dissipated like normal except that the cool side stays cold and can be used to cool, for example, computer chips or the inside of a refrigerator.

    Like the McDLT - The HOT side stays HOT and the COOL side stays COOL!

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  21. It could be worse by Thatmushroom · · Score: 2, Funny

    At least the grammar on /. submissions will be better than on TRL, this crowd appreciates the finer points of the English language.

    Wait a minute......

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  22. Finaly! by ender_wiggins · · Score: 1

    my life makes it to the big screen!

    1. Re:Finaly! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still hold it against you that you killed that kid in elementary school. Don't you feel guilty ? I believe you should be brought to justice. Just because you saved the entire human race doesn't mean that kid deserved to die.

    2. Re:Finaly! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want to bring him to justice? Bush wants Osama brought to justice. But Wiggin did nothing wrong at all except killing off an entire race (yes I read the sequels, I won't give away any spoilers).

  23. Short Niven VS Novel Niven by LPetrazickis · · Score: 1

    I think the original author meant that they should make movies based on "Ringworld", "Rainbow Mars", "Protector", "A World Out of Time", etc.

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  24. BBC Ogg streams by Dicky · · Score: 5, Interesting
    At least one of the BBC Ogg streams was still running 5 minutes ago because I was listening to it on my iPAQ...

    It's really nice to get quality radio on a non-traditional device. I should mention that I'm posting this from my iPAQ too :-)

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    1. Re:BBC Ogg streams by henley · · Score: 2

      I'd love to know which stream you were listening to because my scheduled capture of the 1830 comedy on Radio 4 failed last night, and I'm desperate to find a way to get captures before Monday's I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue!

      The BBC Ogg test page states the test period finished on 2002/05/19 however I was able to record ISIHAC from Radio 4 on Monday 2002/05/20.

      Incidently I have no idea of the legality or otherwise of capturing the live stream (using nothing more than a Cronjob'd "wget" BTW) but it strikes me that if you can make personal tape recordings from trad. radio then this sort of timeshifting is no more harmful...

      *sob* please tell me I'm not going to have to go dig out one of those obsolete audio tapes in time for Monday *sob*. I want my, I want my, I want my Ogg R4...

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    2. Re:BBC Ogg streams by Dicky · · Score: 2
      The Radio6 (aka 6music) stream is still there, but it looks like the others have gone :-(

      A mate of mine has a more complex system, written in Perl, which parses the Radio 4 online listings and downloads everything, splitting the stream up into individual programs - we were planning on re-writing it in Python using PyOgg. He's going to be mightily pissed-off.

      All is not lost for you, however. You can hack something up with a combination of trplayer, vsound and lame (or something similar). Google for it or drop me a line for more info. It's no good for me, since there's no realplayer for Linux-on-iPAQ, which is where streaming really shines...

      Oh, and Fanshaw Explains (or something like that) isn't in the same league as ISIHAC :-)

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    3. Re:BBC Ogg streams by Vanders · · Score: 1

      It's really nice to get quality radio on a non-traditional device. I should mention that I'm posting this from my iPAQ too :-)

      Tell me about it. I've spent the last three months or so porting the emu10k1 driver to AtheOS and getting the Ogg libraries to build so I could listen to the BBC streams on my OS Of Choice. Two days after I finally got to play a live stream (Using wget & a very simple decoder), the streams are taken down. Bugger.

      Still, its kept me quiet :)

    4. Re:BBC Ogg streams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ohh, thanks for the link to trplayer...I may have to try porting this around a little...

    5. Re:BBC Ogg streams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just made me laugh out loud. Cheers to all trolls!

  25. Depth? Err... by bani · · Score: 2

    I found Ender's Game characters uninspiring and predictable.

    The ending was also a real cop-out, I was as disappointed with the conclusion of Ender's Game as I was with Asimov's 3001.

    1. Re:Depth? Err... by Da+Schmiz · · Score: 2
      Um... 3001 was the final installment of the 2001 series, which was written by Arthur C. Clarke . IIRC, Asimov was dead by the time 3001 came out.

      IMHO, Asimov was a far better writer than Clarke.

      As far as the characters being "uninspiring and predictable", you should have read the book when you were younger. At very least, you should read the sequels -- Ender's character doesn't even begin to be really developed until Speaker for the Dead.

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  26. What does the name "Ogg Vorbis" mean? by cpeterso · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to someone on the Vorbis User and Discussion List, "Ogg Vorbis" is named after the "ogg tactical maneuver" in Netrek and Vorbis after the Terry Pratchett character from the book Small Gods.

    What does the name "Ogg Vorbis" mean?

    First, Vorbis was taken from a character of an ''exquisitor'' in the book
    "Small Gods," a title in a series of Terry Pratchett fantasy novels.
    Formally, Vorbis is the name for the specific audio compression scheme used
    to create Ogg Vorbis files. It is ultimately part of the Ogg Vorbis CODEC
    project (a branch of the overarching, open-multimedia Ogg project), which is
    headed by Christopher Montgomery and his team.


  27. Wrong Niven story... by bani · · Score: 2

    I want to see GP hulls, Puppeteers, Kzinti, etc. on the big screen!

  28. Trans-Story by bstadil · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe you are using the new Netscape Tab feature, as you posted under wrong story. ;-)

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  29. Re:Heh heh... (your sig) by Da+Schmiz · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Quoth the Coward:
    You karma drag-race too?
    The sig is a joke.

    It's funny. Laugh. (tm)

    Besides, for it to be 'karma drag-racing' would imply that I karma-whored my way up, which isn't true. I just don't bother posting unless I feel it's something worthwhile.

    As a side note, I've decided to keep my sig only until someone comments on it. My new game is to see how quickly I can get someone to comment on my next sig.

    Oh, and I'll quote my sig here, just so it's preserved for posterity after I go and change it: "Zero to 50 in only 88 comments!"

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  30. Re:This script thus far is HORRIBLE; Not so. by raventh1 · · Score: 1

    That was an old script that no longer exists; I didnt like it much either. After reading his books since then (The Bean side tale) I think we should be in good shape. BTW, for those that dont know, Endercon is going to happen this July 5-6, 2002 at Utah Valley State College in Orem, Utah. I will be attending, and eagerly anticipating "Shadow Puppets" this August. I Eagerly await the movie, but will wait as much as nessecary. raVen

  31. Children in adult roles. by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 2

    Man, I hope they find a lot of good child actors. With the exception of the sixth Sence and the City of Lost Children I have yet to see an excellent job done by a child filling a more adult personality.

    Hardly movie-quality, but - the kid who played Picard in the "four people get turned into children" TNG episode did a damned good job.

    1. Re:Children in adult roles. by dillon_rinker · · Score: 3, Funny

      Unfortunately, that child actor got caught in a temporal anomaly and has aged nearly ten years since then...

  32. Yeah, but they're going to do Dogwalker! by Provincialist · · Score: 1
    I've loved the Ender series (especially when compared to OSC's others like "Homecoming" and "Alvin Maker"), and I would definitely look forward to the movie, but to me the short stories from _Maps_in_a_Mirror_ are his most enjoyable work. That's why I was stoked to see "Dogwalker" listed on the site as well. This is one of the best of them, and much more suited to the screen than "Kingsmeat", "Fat Farm", or "A Thousand Deaths".

    Notice I said "most enjoyable". As much as we'd like to transfer all the great metaphysical scifi to the screen, such a transfer is likely to either create an unwatchable set of wooden monologues, completely toss the deep concepts, or both. Also, LOTR notwithstanding, short stories are easier to adapt than novels.

    later,
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  33. Ender's Game: Impossible casting by snStarter · · Score: 1

    A couple folks have already observed that the casting of child actors would be difficult. I suggest it's impossible. Most of Ender's Game happens with VERY young children - preturnaturally brilliant kids. In fact the kids are written like adults, or at least adolescents, which is one of downsides of the novels. Now Scott will defend his characterization of children to the death but having raised three I say he seriously over-wrote them.

    1. Re:Ender's Game: Impossible casting by Mandelbrute · · Score: 2

      Impossible? Then use animation.

    2. Re:Ender's Game: Impossible casting by tdye · · Score: 2

      Given the chances you've raised three genius-level exceptionally brilliant prodigies, I'd say your experiences count for very little. I think Card's characterizations are spot-on and perfectly legitimate.

      Currently, I'm tutoring a 9-yr old girl in sophomore-level college English, because her parents felt like she needed some rounding-out before she got her BS. I think she'd do OK in Ender's world... she'd certainly feel more at home than she does now.

    3. Re:Ender's Game: Impossible casting by tdye · · Score: 2

      Also, how are they gonna manage the amount of naked kids in the book? The clothing issues and the psychology of being naked were an important part of the book.

  34. Nooo! Not Ender's Game! by jayed_99 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Francis Ford Coppola *might* be able to turn Ender's Game into a good movie. I have strong doubts that any other popular Hollywood director could.


    The thing that makes Ender's Game such a great book is that the small unwashed masses of alienated, hyper-intelligent geeks could truly empathize with Ender on an emotional level. We can understand his trials and feel his pains. We can also understand his pyrrhic victories. The rest of the books are good (for the most part) but that visceral sense of identification gets left behind. And, in Ender's Shadow, Card tries to shift that sense of identification from Ender to Bean. He fails miserably. He comes closer, yet also fails with Qing-Jao.


    In the first book, Ender's Game, Card forges an emotional envolvement with Ender. (Well, if you're an alienated, hyper-intelligent geek anyway). The rest of the books in the initial series -- Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, Children of the Mind -- are good. He comes closest to reforging that emotional link in the Xenocide/Children of the Mind sub-duology with the character of Qing-Jao. He doesn't quite make it though...I can truly empathize with a braniac with no friends, an obsessive-compulsive super-braniac is a bit beyond my league.


    He repeats himself in the sub-duology of Ender's Shadow and Shadow of the Hegemon. Yes, Bean is super-smart. But he's a genetically engineered human. Card has once again taken what worked with Ender and altered the character so much that readers can't truly relate.


    Damn, I've been rambling. The point that I'm trying to emphasize (out of the many points that I've made) is that the appeal of Ender's Game is that readers could honestly and wholely identify with the main character. I don'think that the same sense of identification will come across on the screen.

    1. Re:Nooo! Not Ender's Game! by beertopia · · Score: 1

      I could be way off base about this, but I kinda doubt that providing friendless brainiac characters, for hyperintelligent geeks to empathise with, is Hollywood's main priority.

      Especially since the MPAA knows they're being boycotted by nerds, right?

      But on the other hand, Big Hollywood seems to be pretty good at providing characters that nerds wish they could have sex with, so perhaps it won't be a total loss.

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    2. Re:Nooo! Not Ender's Game! by Mandelbrute · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Francis Ford Coppola *might* be able to turn Ender's Game into a good movie. I have strong doubts that any other popular Hollywood director could.
      It's just as well that they are not using a Hollywood director then - they are using Wolfgang Peterson. Sorry guys, but Hollywood has hit a low point, probably due to creative control by uncreative people that want to rip off writers, directors, the public, the IRS etc, while being more interested in copying what the other studios are doing or remaking sitcoms than making something watchable. Most of the best of the recent "Hollywood" productions are made somewhere else with Hollywood money (eg.LOTR, Matrix, Ep2), and have managed to escape whatever it is that stifles Hollywood movies.

      Lucas and Speilberg didn't get to where they are by being good directors (but I'm not saying they are bad directors), they got there by playing the Hollywood game. Even after "Alien", Sigorney Weaver had to go through embarassing auditions that closely resembled a casting couch (for her role as a businesswoman in the film "Working Girl"). Hollywood isn't about movies anymore, it's just about greed and profit. Enough ranting, I'm sure someone will post good counter-examples to give me hope. Strangely, a lot of the best Hollywood films I've seen lately have been about why Hollywood is bad (Timecode, Jay & Silent Bob, etc).

      Ok - more ranting. At least while Hollywood is a corrupt cesspool it lets other countries profit by making the movies there. People in the USA shouldn't worry, it's not as if any taxes would be paid to the USA, and it's not as if long term jobs would go to those that are not relatives, cronies or willing to humiliate themselves for a chance anyway.

    3. Re:Nooo! Not Ender's Game! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree. Qing was rather annoying and an unwelcome twist. Speaker of the Dead surpasses Ender's Game as a novel, as does Ender's Shadow. The future books simply enhance the previous work. I mean, it might not be as good if you want battle school strategy nonstop, but come on, they have much more meaningful insight into many other topics such as human nature.

    4. Re:Nooo! Not Ender's Game! by Theodore+Logan · · Score: 2
      Francis Ford Coppola *might* be able to turn Ender's Game into a good movie. I have strong doubts that any other popular Hollywood director could.

      Which of course includes the director of Das Boot? (Yes, that's Petersons.) If I remember correctly, that's one of Coppola's favorite flicks.

      The thing that makes Ender's Game such a great book is that the small unwashed masses of alienated, hyper-intelligent geeks could truly empathize with Ender on an emotional level. We can understand his trials and feel his pains.

      "We"? Only on Slashdot would someone just in passing assign themselves the label "hyper-intelligent." Now if someone would only write a book where all of us uber-talented movie critics could have someone to identify with...

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    5. Re:Nooo! Not Ender's Game! by LafinJack · · Score: 1

      I couldn't relate to Qing-Jao at all. Brilliant, stubborn (to her own death, even), and insane. Wait, maybe the slashdot crowd CAN relate to her...

      Wang-Mu, on the other hand, I could relate to. Smart and overlooked because she didn't have one superficial difference that 'real' smart people had.

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  35. Does it really matter by Genuflect · · Score: 1

    Does it really matter if a movie is ever made from this book. I do not see why a one needs to made. It is a wonderful all by itself.

  36. Quality of BBC streams by galaga79 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While I never got a change to try out the BBC Ogg Vorbis streams (because my net connection is a mere 56k modem shared to 3 computers) I am quite interested to hear how it would have sounded with the encoding settings they have used. Below is a quote from the BBC website explaining the settings they used.

    Currently there is a Radio 4 stream, and two Radio 1 streams using different quality settings to ices. The _low is using -q 0, whilst the _high is using -q 3. I'd be interested to know if anyone can tell much difference between them (challenge for all you audiophiles out there :)

    Now I have been mucking around with Ogg Vorbis for a few months and I have encountered some quite impressive results. On my website I have music downloads and I store them at -q 2, which equates to a nominal bitrate of 80-96 and in my opinion is on par with a MP3 using VBR ranging between 112-160. At this setting it still has a few minor artifacts but for the most part they aren't noticable and thus makes a good setting for free music downloads.

    Furthermore I encode my CD collection at -q 5 and on my decent stereo and headphones I can't tell the difference between the original CD and the Ogg Vorbis track. For those interested this stores my guitar based music at an average bit-rate of 160-190 and electronic at 190-250 roughly speaking.

    Anyway long story short, from my past experience it sounds like the high quality stream at a quality setting of 3.00, which I am guessing equates to a nominal bit-rate of 135 or so would have sounded pretty darn good. Definitely better than FM reception and perhaps almost as good as CD quality depending on the setup used. Can anyone verify or comment on this?

    1. Re:Quality of BBC streams by velouria · · Score: 1

      I can't comment on all of the streams, but the radio 6 stream they were running for a while was well under 135 at -q3 the evening I listened.
      It was sitting around 112 most of the time.

      I too have gone and encoded my CD collection at -q5. Every now and then the lack of any portable player (£400 PDAs don't really count) depresses me, but listening to 192kbps mp3s brings me back around to the OGG camp.

  37. ogg? by matticus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    is it just me, or is Ogg Vorbis kind of a dumb name for a multimedia format?
    I'm sorry, I don't mean to troll, I just want to find people who agree. Think of this-"I have 5600 MP3s".
    Now replace it- "I have 5600 [Ogg Vorbis's|Ogg Vorbis Multimedia Files|Ogg Vorbis Audios]".
    It doesn't work. It's like legos. You don't say I have 2030 Lego brand entertainment bricks, or 2030 Lego bricks. You say I have 2030 Legos. This, imho, is Ogg's greatest downfall. The project works great, the compression is good, the audio sounds pretty dang good, but it will never catch on, first because of the large installed base of mp3s and players, and second, because it just sounds dumb.

    1. Re:ogg? by Yosho · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's not quite a valid comparison... Why not "I have 5600 Oggs"? I mean, you never hear people say "I have 5600 MPEG Layer 3 audio files." I kinda like "Ogg", personally.

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    2. Re:ogg? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As the other replier mengtioned, why not just say you have "5600 oggs" or "5600 ogg-files".

      Sure, it doesn't have quite the zip of MP3, but that's partially because of all the media hype MP3 has gotten. Plenty of file formats sound bad too. Ever talk about ppt files? I mean txt and docs make some sense, rtf doesn't really make much since (yeah it's the acronym but it still doesn't make that much sense), etc.

      So yeah, they're ogg files, big deal...

    3. Re:ogg? by Andy_R · · Score: 2

      Well, you would either say "5600 oggs" or more likely "5600 songs". If a technology is good enough it becomes transparent enough to ignore, in the way that no-one would say 'do you want to sit on the couch and watch a VHS tape tonight'

      Oh, and you picked the worst possible example with Lego, the plural of lego is lego, and the correct thing to say actually is "Lego bricks" (or just plain "bricks" if the context is obvious).

      Oddly enough I've only encountered this mistake when talking to Americans about lego, everyone else seems to get it right... then again Americans don't seem to know the difference between cinemas and theatres and have mangled the pronounciation of 'Aluminium' so badly that the derivative word 'Aluminiuming' is impossible for them to say, so I guess they can't really be trusted with custodianship of the English language!

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    4. Re:ogg? by frog51 · · Score: 2

      I have never ever heard anyone refer to lego bricks as anything other than lego bricks or lego pieces. Calling them legos just sounds odd - like calling all the various meccano pieces meccanos.

      And although I talk about mp3 files a lot, I have never been tempted to call them mp3's. Usually I call them songs, tracks, mp3 files or music files. Iff I used Ogg Vorbis more I would probably call them songs, tracks, vorbis files, ogg files (although that could be confusing when Ogg Tarkin gets developed) or music files.

      Null issue - anyone not trying to be lazy in speech or in type will be fine with this.

  38. Re:Heh heh... (your sig) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    52

  39. Don't mod up the work of hacks. by Chris+Burke · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It wasn't bad, but then in the second to last stanza

    Linux this and Linux that,
    Open Source Mandrake Red Hat;
    "I wanna hack my microwave!",
    Piss off you stupid twat.


    it went to hell as -three- unforgivable sins were committed:

    1) The fourth line only exists to make the 2-4 rhyming scheme work. It's lame profanity that adds nothing to the content of the poem, the author just -needed- something to rhyme with "Hat". That's laziness.

    2) "Hat" and "twat" don't rhyme. They aren't even close. Trying to read it so that they do makes it sound even more stupid.

    3) The commission of sin #1 to make a rhyme, only to commit sin #2 and not rhyme at all!

    I've heard poems and songs say stupid crap just to make a rhyme, but at least they then managed to rhyme! This is just sad.

    So no, don't mod it up. It was done by a lazy hack, who should really be ashamed of themself for ruining a good piece.

    By the way, for any revision, I recommend making the word to rhyme with "Hat" be "fat", since everyone knows Linux users are obese.

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    1. Re:Don't mod up the work of hacks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Um, in England "Hat" and "Twat" rhyme. I'm guessing the poet is British. Points two and three are therefore both invalid, leaving just one "unforgivable sin".

      Cheers,

      David Parry.

  40. "Hate" or "Extrememly Dislike" ? by bani · · Score: 2

    Please quote where I said either "Hate" or "Extrememly Dislike".

    What exactly about it wasnt polite?

    1. Re:"Hate" or "Extrememly Dislike" ? by raventh1 · · Score: 0

      I wasnt saying you persay.
      rather that, thats what I do when people "Hate" or "Extremly Dislike"; (Using that as an example of why you were flamebait) BTW, Since I was modded offtopic, hehe. Check out Endercon 2002

  41. Asimov/Clarke brainfart by bani · · Score: 1

    Ok yeah, but you knew who I meant, so no need to get pedantic.

    Anyway. I can see how the book would appeal to young nerd types as they would strongly identify with Ender, the typical hazing of nerdy kids, etc. (before you object - yes, I was a "nerd" too)

    I guess as one gets older they expect more depth in their scifi. I found Ender's Game rather shallow.

    Blood Music - another hugo winner in the same year as Ender's Game - is much better.

  42. Re:short stories by bobv-pillars-net · · Score: 1
    Also, LOTR notwithstanding, short stories are easier to adapt than novels.

    As long as they're not too short.

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  43. Ogg Vorbis for Sveriges Radio by eddy · · Score: 2

    Okay, any Swedes out there? I've been trying to get SR to move away from RA and embrace Ogg Vorbis. It would be great if we could get together, write up something official'ish and all sign it.

    If that is not your thing, consider simply emailing SR and let them know that you would prefer Ogg Vorbis.

    When I did this a year ago they argued that a) RA is available for 'all' platforms and that b) HTTP is not suitable for streaming. I think those are pretty weak arguments, and so in about two months (making it a year since last time) I will again make my voice heard.

    Also, that was before BBC did their tests, so that is new ammunition, especially if they start using it for "real".

    Email me if you want to join up.

    We're _paying_ SR via taxes, remember that. They should listen to us.

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    1. Re:Ogg Vorbis for Sveriges Radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /me agrees.

  44. Re:short stories by dalamcd · · Score: 1
    "If you like this title, we also recommend...
    Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)"

    ...WTF?

    dalamcd
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  45. roid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I should mention that I'm posting this from my iPAQ too :-)
    And I should mention that i'm writing this with my anus.

  46. Re:Schr�dinger/Trek by bobv-pillars-net · · Score: 1

    I guess I always get confused someplace inbetween Schrödinger's Cat and what I've learned from Star Trek.


    I seriously hope that nobody (at least nobody reading /.) actually considers the pseudo-technobabble-hogwash on Star Trek to have even the slightest foundation in science.



    But then, I equally hope that nobody considers the esoteric notions embodied in quantum physics to have the slightest foundation in reality, Schrödinger's cat notwithstanding.



    Scientific theories (especially at the particle physics level) are neither true nor false. It really doesn't matter whether quarks and leptons and muons and suchlike really exist, or whether the truth is far stranger. You'll never find out for sure in this life, anyway. If a theory happens to coincide with observable events closely enough to be useful at making accurate predictions of real-world behaviour, then it is a good theory. It's a useful theory.
    But don't confuse it with reality.



    Believing in quantum physics is like believing in the Matrix. Or Star Trek.

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  47. OSC Books by Calmiche · · Score: 1

    While I really liked the Ender books, as well as some of his other series, probably one of the best Orson Scott card books I have ever read was Treason. It was fantasticly dark and with some increadible plot twists. Including the main character turning from a man into a woman and then growing extra appendages, to exactly what happened to his brother, the second heir to the throne. Fantastic stuff. Calmiche,

    1. Re:OSC Books by TXG1112 · · Score: 1

      Actually, It's "A Planet Called Treason" and I have to agree, It's a better book. I liked "Enders Game" but it seemed a little cheezy when I read it. (I was young at the time) "A Planet Called Treason" is a totally unique world, where iron is a rare element, and everything is constructed out of bio-mass.

      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/031261395 4/ qid=1022255859/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0271230-56903 63

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    2. Re:OSC Books by Calmiche · · Score: 1

      Sorry about that.. I have the reworked version of Orson Scott Card's book, released in 1988, named simply "Treason" rather than "A Planet Called Treason". It is reedited, corrected, and with about 40 pages of added text.

  48. Re:Heh heh... (your sig) by Da+Schmiz · · Score: 1
    Ah, but 88 is just an overall better number.

    IMNSHO, anyway.

    "Karma? Where we're going we don't need karma!"

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  49. Re:Heh heh... (your sig) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Ooh, I feel so violated! And you probably have a lower UID than me, too!
    </sarcasm>

  50. Re:1337 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are words ?

  51. Canadian Highspeed Network by Dopemine · · Score: 1

    Gee as a Canadian I didn't know about this new network. I can't wait till they get fiber optics into my home. I'd love to try out WinMX on this baby. BTW Ender's Game was one of my favourite books. I'd love to see it made into a movie.

  52. Das Boot? Helloooo? by frostman · · Score: 1


    WTF indeed! you talk about peterson's movies but you don't mention "Das Boot?" ...which just happens to be one of the best WW2 movies ever and probably *the* best to come out of germany...

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  53. Bugsy Malone by Salsaman · · Score: 2

    Anyone remember Bugsy Malone ? It's a gangster film where all the roles are played by child actors; and no, it isn't too corny, but as I remember it it's a pretty good 'Untouchables' style romp (except the guns fire pies I think - it's been a long time since I last saw it).

    1. Re:Bugsy Malone by gowen · · Score: 1

      Excellent movie, and good performances too. Unfortunately, you don't find a young Jodie Foster on every street corner...

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  54. Mazer a Maori? [Ender's Game] by PGillingwater · · Score: 1

    I read the books a few years back, but seem to remember that Mazer Rackham was a New Zealand Maori. Perhaps he could be played by Temura Morrison, who played Jango Fett in Attack of the Clones. It's amusing that some in the US think that he's a Latino.

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    Paul Gillingwater
    MBA, CISSP, CISM
  55. Re:CoolChips (completely off topic reply) by rark · · Score: 1

    Thank you! I've been trying to convince a friend of mine that McDLTs actually did exist at one time!! Thanks to that link you posted I can now prove that I'm not *completely* nuts (delusions of hamburgers? *g*)

  56. Re:This script thus far is HORRIBLE; Not so. by Froobly · · Score: 1

    I don't think the poster quite understands just how old that script is. When that script came out, I was a junior in high school. Right now, I'm a senior in college. No, I did not skip any grades.

    While there are some things I don't agree with in that first attempt, there are also some things I think he did right. For instance, the insistance that there be no sound accompanying the explosions (it being in space and all). And while the various story choices may be suspect, I found the actual narrative and dialog to be quite good.

  57. you're not supposed to empathize with bean by MattW · · Score: 2

    He's so far beyond smart, that even if you're smart, you're supposed to be alienated. And as he is, he is paying the ultimate price (his early death) for it. Now, you may sympathize -- since everyone different typically pays some sort of price, extracted by some peer group at some point -- but you cannot know him. Bean is also an asshole. He's out to accomplish his goals, and he's only really capable of non-manipulative human contact if he has nothing left to accomplish. If he's trying to do something, then look out -- he'll play everyone around him as he feels will best achieve his goal. Ender was unlike bean; Ender was a Carnegie sort of leader. He rallied people around him because he lifted them up and up, until they followed him out of love and admiration. That's why Ender was loved, and Bean does not inspire the same. But Ender grew up with 5 years of loving parents; Bean hid in a toilet to escape being killed as a baby, and spent his first few years staying alive on the streets.

  58. 2 good books by nanojath · · Score: 1
    The first book I ever read (I subsequently got a BA in chemistry including some quantum work in physical chemistry, so I have a tiny insight into the subject - note that's not false but real humility, the topic is vast and my knowledge is tiny) was "In Search of Schrödinger's Cat" by John Gribbin. It's from '84 but I thought it was a very good layman's reference, a nice balance between the pragmatic science of QP and where it comes from and some of the more out there theoretical interpretations of what it might mean.


    I haven't read it but I hear another good introduction is "Taking the Quantum Leap" by Fred Allen Wolf.


    A note - it doesn't just seem mind blowing, it is. Particle activity at the quantum scale is just not like the "normal" activity we intuitively grasp in matter at our own scale. Attempts to understand it in terms of a normal understanding of matter will fail. It's better to look at it all as an alternate reality (which it is in a sense) with its own unique rules and behaviors. Remember, even Einstein couldn't deal with the weirdness. Have fun.

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    It Is the Nature of Information to Transgress Artificial Boundaries

  59. Bravo, Cool Chips by The+Fun+Guy · · Score: 2

    Wether their cooling chips work or not, the company deserves some credit for a) posting a fairly informative FAQ (with references to peer-reviewed pub), b) making that FAQ available in a text-only version which will hopefully not get slashdotted again, c) using the following sentence: "However, the equipment needed to build chips capable of being accurately tested for cooling is expensive, and a royal pain to set up and calibrate.", d) giving our the name and e.mail of their two contacts, a suit *and* a geek.

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    The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them. - Mark Twain
  60. Movie? Pffft by Dirtside · · Score: 2

    Screw "Ender's Game", the movie... when do we get "Ender's Game", the GAME? I mean, come on, it's right there in the title!

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    "Destroy science and religion. Science would re-emerge exactly the same; but not religion." - Penn Jillette, paraphrased
  61. Ender's Game fun for smart FPS players by doc+modulo · · Score: 1

    I liked a number of different elements in Ender's Game. How it makes you identify with the smart but disconnected Ender, the psychological manipulation Ender uses on others etc.

    One of the reasons Ender's Game was such a joy to read is because I was (and am) heavy into Counter-Strike.
    The book has some nice tactical combat insights that helped me understand and improve my game.

    These tactics apply to all team based First Person Shooter like UT and Q3 DM, not just CS.

    If you're smart, like Sci-Fi and games, you'll probably have a great time reading this book.

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    1. Re:Ender's Game fun for smart FPS players by DerekTheRed · · Score: 1
      The book has some nice tactical combat insights that helped me understand and improve my game.

      "The enemy's gate is down"?

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      "Thank you, God, for your healing gift of religion."

    2. Re:Ender's Game fun for smart FPS players by doc+modulo · · Score: 1

      Nope, I'm talking about dividing your force into sub-groups that can take decisions individually when something unexpected arises (something always does, too many possibilities). As opposed to a giant machine that grinds to a halt whenever one of it's components is having a bit of trouble.

      The book starts out with describing the traditional (for battle school) way of doing battle and Ender's way.

      Ever since I read the book, I've gotten a taste for thinking up tactics and implementing them in Counter-Strike. Even things that were not in the book. The cliche words that Hollywood movies use even make sense to me, now that I've put some thought into them. Decoy, ambush, reserve backup etc.

      I'm sure I'll use the "enemy's gate is down" idea for when I start playing 3D space combat games :)

      By the way, does anybody have any good (military) tactics website URLs they want to share?

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  62. 9/11 reading inspiration by multimed · · Score: 1
    Pretty off topic, but speaking of Sept 11th and reading material, after that happened, I was moved to re-read The Trigger by Arthur C. Clarke.

    The brief summary:

    The Trigger When Dr. Karl Brohier and his team of scientists accidentally stumble upon a field that can detonate gunpowder in bullets and bombs from a safe distance, they find themselves targetted by professional criminals, terrorists, and the military-industrial complex, all out to seize control of their invention. Reprint.

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  63. Greensboro NC by TibbonZero · · Score: 1

    I guess I am one of the lucky ones for OSC stuff, I live in Greensboro, where he does. He stops by the B+N and Borders here quite often. I have a few books signed.

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    1. Re:Greensboro NC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good. Can you do me a favor and tell him that his die-hard Mormon religious conservatism makes him look like a fag? Jesus, what a dork.

  64. Niven's best by WhiteDragon · · Score: 1

    in my opinion two of Larry Niven's best books were Lucifer's Hammer, (which is so much better than Armageddon or Deep Impact) and Ringworld (which was the first Larry Niven that I ever read, and I was hooked!) but I can't really imagine Holywood making a movie of that. Actually, I could imagine it, but I can't imagine that they could do it justice.

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    Did you mount a military-grade, variable-focus MASER on an unlicensed artificial intelligence?
  65. You only think you're kidding. by Apuleius · · Score: 2

    There's lots of speculation of how studios are
    longing for high quality CG in order to have
    a better bargaining position with actors,
    but child actors who don't prance like prima
    donnas are still a major headache. They have
    growth spurts in the middle of a shooting period,
    or break their voices, et cetera. The first
    massive use of CG actors IMO is likely to
    be done for child characters.