Exactly my point. It was a database of known data, not a "creative work." There was no creativity here, and I question whether a compilation of facts with no artistic merit qualifies as copyrightable. I'm in a large minority with this opinion, by the way. A dictionary is copyrightable because someone had to write the definitions, but should a corpus be?
I know the reasoning: I just don't understand it. Writing a historical novel or even a biography is different from a raw database of publicly available facts. One is art, while the other is just data entry.
In my mind, there is some question of whether a database of facts should, in fact (hee hee), be copyrightable at all. The characters were not original. The pinyin is not original. The pinyin for each character is, in fact, well established. Why should a compilation of public-domain facts which in itself is a derivative work be copyrightable?
It reminds me of a court case a few years ago in Thailand, where a judge put several Thai fonts into the public domain, stating "No one owns the Thai alphabet. It belongs to the people."
Debian should stop supporting Firefox if the two parties can't agree on the licensing. Just make Epiphany the default Gnome browser. I don't see the problem.
So I watched that video, and it was interesting, but it left me with one question -- Why is OS X 10.4.2 read as "Oh ess ten, ten point four point two?" Are they going to have an OS X 11.1? Or will it be OS XI 11.1? Why not just "OS ten, four point 2" (OS X 4.2)? Saying the ten twice just seems entirely too redundant.
I was going to say something like that. Kickstart file and a remote/home means less than an hours of machine time and about five minutes of my own to get a new box up to speed.
You made a mistake in your underlying assumptions. Thais don't consider Bhumipol a person. He is 1. most definitely the king, and 2. considered by many to be the reincarnation of Buddha himself. The last coup that threw out the PM (Thaksin) started with a grass-roots movement when Thaksin declared himself on equal status to the King. Note that this sentiment comes from the people and is not put upon anyone from the King's end.
I wrote something about that in my journal right after 6.06 came out: download a.deb from anywhere, double click on it, type in your password, and finish the installation. It was too easy!
I've noticed this quite a few times. An error comes up and tells me to run a different program or go the the command line to fix it. Definitely a usability issue, but everything is certainly easier than ten years ago, mostly.
I say mostly because with HAL, everything works great and it's easy, except when it isn't. I left Win98 completely because I was tired of rebooting to a system that had changed, sometimes into an unworkable state. Ubuntu is rapidly approaching this situation. It used to be that everything was a bitch to set up, but it never broke or changed once you had it all correct. You could forget about your box for years. Not anymore. Network Manager currently screws my static network setup regularly, and I have to go back to editing everything by hand every time. Welcome back to "Plug and Pray."
NeworkManager is nice, except when it's not. Right now, it breaks the RaLink 2500 drivers. This requires manually resetting the card with ifdow -> iwconfig -> ifup -> dhclient every time I reboot or wake. Kind of sucks, and I wouldn't be able to get around it if I didn't know more than a thing about Linux.
Hell, I've got 2gb and it's not even enough for Zend + Azureus at the same time.
That's because Azureus is a pig!. Try TorrentFlux. Install a web server (you already have Zend, so I'm guessing you're set up on that point) and install TorrentFlux. I even tried Azureus headless with the web interface, but my "server" hit loads of 1.0-2.0 any time I had more than a couple of torrents running. Now my server never runs over.20, even when I'm saturating my connection.
The feature set is great and it's extendable. Look it over.
This brings up a policy which I really hate that is in both MSW and OO.o -- changing a style doesn't remove other font attributes. If I copy something over from another source (quoting or even my own work) and some font attributes come with it (10pt angsana new), changing the style to "text" or "none" doesn't change the font or size. I wish that it did. Either use a style or don't. The only things that should be kept are bold, italics, and underline.
That's odd, because in '97, I was having trouble with my Win95B installation and someone recommended that I try out "this new Linux thing" which was just as easy as "Windoze." I should just reformat my whole drive, he said. So I did. The pain was unimaginable for a couple of years, but I was too stubborn to go back.
So, extrapolating your argument to the next level -- Are you advocating that we stop producing processors with L1 and L2 cache since they sometimes have cache misses?
I know very little about this debate. The only thing I DO KNOW is that Vancouverites came down to Seattle all the time (while I was living there 1997-1999) just to get surgeries that put them on an overly long waiting list. They were willing to travel and shell out their own money to have the surgeries done in the U.S. That never spoke well to me for the system in Canada.
Take a look at the article I translated in my journal showing how the ICT Minister of Thailand reversed the FLOSS policy recently. There's also a translation of the open-letter response from the Thai IT community in there.
That's what the new ICT Minister of Thailand says, reversing about five years of pro-open source government there. (See my jounal and sig for translations of the articles).
An open letter was peened by the most active elements of the Thai FLOSS movement and posted for comment at Blognone. I have tried to faithfully translate it here for you. (Goy helped a lot on this one)
To the Minister of the Ministry of Information Technology and Communication
Re: Clarifying the facts about open source software
According to your declaration of the department's policy over which you have authority and the newspaper reports regarding your reasons for not supporting open source software development, we, who are software developers and users in Thailand, even though we don't oppose your use of budgeted money for a more important reason, we think that the reasons that you gave are not accurate according to our experience and cause public misunderstanding about OSS, which will affect our work which, we are trying to accomplish for the betterment of our country. We are doing this on our own without requesting money from the government.
We'd like to point out these facts with reference to the Bangkok Post report on Wednesday, Nov 15th, 2006 covering the following points:
On the subject of open source software, he said the current government plan was a case of the blind leading the blind, as neither the people who are in charge nor the people in industry seem to know the dangers of open source software.
"With open source, there is no intellectual property. Anyone can use it and all your ideas become public domain. If nobody can make money from it, there will be no development and open source software quickly becomes outdated," he said.
Apart from Linux, he claimed that most open source software is often abandoned and not developed, and leads to a lot of low-quality software with lots of bugs.
"As a programmer, if I can write good code, why should I give it away? Thailand can do good source code without open source," he said.
We will cover the issues point-by-point below:
The work that we have done was not done blindly without direction. We studied well the various conditions about OSS development, including the law, development methods, project accomplishment, and the effects on the economy. We saw opportunities for our country, which we will clarify later. We are therefore trying to work in the private sector to support the government's projects.
There is a misunderstanding that open source software is public domain without copyright because, according to current law, every piece of open source software has a legal copyright holder. It is only the generosity of the copyright holder which gives others special rights under his or her license, which uses copyright law itself to protect the holder's and user's rights to edit and distribute the software. If someone fails to follow the conditions of the agreement, they can be sued. This is an issue which open source projects take very seriously and try to monitor in order to prevent copyright violations.
Open source software can generate revenue because the license allows one to do so as long as one doesn't violate the license. Therefore, you see open source software in many kinds of hardware, such as routers, firewalls, mobile phones, and PDAs, to start. Because of the availability of the source code, the software can be adapted freely to many different kinds of hardware. There is also after-sales service, such as system installation and integration of solutions. The use of open source software reduces the start-up cost and is amazingly adaptable. The seller must offer the user the same right which the seller has (transfer). In other countries, the seller uses part of the revenue to support the development by sponsoring, donating , or hiring the developer to develop new features for the software. They may possibly simply employ the developer. All this is the reason why open source software is being continuously developed. In Thailand, this happens occasionally, but isn't common, because the open source mentali
A couple of months ago, I was running around with my expat friends here in Korea, saying "Thailand's due for another coup any day now." It's that every ten years thing I was told about a long time ago, maybe by you...?
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Exactly my point. It was a database of known data, not a "creative work." There was no creativity here, and I question whether a compilation of facts with no artistic merit qualifies as copyrightable. I'm in a large minority with this opinion, by the way. A dictionary is copyrightable because someone had to write the definitions, but should a corpus be?
I know the reasoning: I just don't understand it. Writing a historical novel or even a biography is different from a raw database of publicly available facts. One is art, while the other is just data entry.
In my mind, there is some question of whether a database of facts should, in fact (hee hee), be copyrightable at all. The characters were not original. The pinyin is not original. The pinyin for each character is, in fact, well established. Why should a compilation of public-domain facts which in itself is a derivative work be copyrightable?
It reminds me of a court case a few years ago in Thailand, where a judge put several Thai fonts into the public domain, stating "No one owns the Thai alphabet. It belongs to the people."
1.5 Ctrl+t then Ctrl+l to give focus.
Debian should stop supporting Firefox if the two parties can't agree on the licensing. Just make Epiphany the default Gnome browser. I don't see the problem.
So I watched that video, and it was interesting, but it left me with one question -- Why is OS X 10.4.2 read as "Oh ess ten, ten point four point two?" Are they going to have an OS X 11.1? Or will it be OS XI 11.1? Why not just "OS ten, four point 2" (OS X 4.2)? Saying the ten twice just seems entirely too redundant.
That's my small rant.
I was going to say something like that. Kickstart file and a remote /home means less than an hours of machine time and about five minutes of my own to get a new box up to speed.
The problem with that stattement is that Pattaya and Si Lom are specially zoned areas where this kind of activity is legal.
You made a mistake in your underlying assumptions. Thais don't consider Bhumipol a person. He is 1. most definitely the king, and 2. considered by many to be the reincarnation of Buddha himself. The last coup that threw out the PM (Thaksin) started with a grass-roots movement when Thaksin declared himself on equal status to the King. Note that this sentiment comes from the people and is not put upon anyone from the King's end.
For information about the FLOSS story referenced here, see my journal entry on the translation: http://slashdot.org/~Daengbo/journal/152236 and http://slashdot.org/~Daengbo/journal/152216
I wrote something about that in my journal right after 6.06 came out: download a .deb from anywhere, double click on it, type in your password, and finish the installation. It was too easy!
I've noticed this quite a few times. An error comes up and tells me to run a different program or go the the command line to fix it. Definitely a usability issue, but everything is certainly easier than ten years ago, mostly.
I say mostly because with HAL, everything works great and it's easy, except when it isn't. I left Win98 completely because I was tired of rebooting to a system that had changed, sometimes into an unworkable state. Ubuntu is rapidly approaching this situation. It used to be that everything was a bitch to set up, but it never broke or changed once you had it all correct. You could forget about your box for years. Not anymore. Network Manager currently screws my static network setup regularly, and I have to go back to editing everything by hand every time. Welcome back to "Plug and Pray."
NeworkManager is nice, except when it's not. Right now, it breaks the RaLink 2500 drivers. This requires manually resetting the card with ifdow -> iwconfig -> ifup -> dhclient every time I reboot or wake. Kind of sucks, and I wouldn't be able to get around it if I didn't know more than a thing about Linux.
Hell, I've got 2gb and it's not even enough for Zend + Azureus at the same time.
.20, even when I'm saturating my connection.
That's because Azureus is a pig!. Try TorrentFlux. Install a web server (you already have Zend, so I'm guessing you're set up on that point) and install TorrentFlux. I even tried Azureus headless with the web interface, but my "server" hit loads of 1.0-2.0 any time I had more than a couple of torrents running. Now my server never runs over
The feature set is great and it's extendable. Look it over.
This brings up a policy which I really hate that is in both MSW and OO.o -- changing a style doesn't remove other font attributes. If I copy something over from another source (quoting or even my own work) and some font attributes come with it (10pt angsana new), changing the style to "text" or "none" doesn't change the font or size. I wish that it did. Either use a style or don't. The only things that should be kept are bold, italics, and underline.
Great! All hail OGG! Good thing most of my collection is in it already.
That's odd, because in '97, I was having trouble with my Win95B installation and someone recommended that I try out "this new Linux thing" which was just as easy as "Windoze." I should just reformat my whole drive, he said. So I did. The pain was unimaginable for a couple of years, but I was too stubborn to go back.
I was thinking the same thing about Hamurabi on my Model I.
So, extrapolating your argument to the next level -- Are you advocating that we stop producing processors with L1 and L2 cache since they sometimes have cache misses?
I don't se why so many /.ers are having trouble with this idea, since it appears to be exactly like top vs. free for memory usage.
Good in the GP modifies English, not spoken, so good should be an adjective (which it is) and not an adverb (which it isn't). Smiles.
I know very little about this debate. The only thing I DO KNOW is that Vancouverites came down to Seattle all the time (while I was living there 1997-1999) just to get surgeries that put them on an overly long waiting list. They were willing to travel and shell out their own money to have the surgeries done in the U.S. That never spoke well to me for the system in Canada.
Take a look at the article I translated in my journal showing how the ICT Minister of Thailand reversed the FLOSS policy recently. There's also a translation of the open-letter response from the Thai IT community in there.
That's what the new ICT Minister of Thailand says, reversing about five years of pro-open source government there. (See my jounal and sig for translations of the articles).
A couple of months ago, I was running around with my expat friends here in Korea, saying "Thailand's due for another coup any day now." It's that every ten years thing I was told about a long time ago, maybe by you ...?