So the article is a spoof -- knew I'd read all that already somewhere -- but I say it's illegitimate : comparing AJAX to frames is most insulting in the most unjustifiable way.
Moving on, *NEWSFLASH* : technology can be misused !
AJAX is all about being used properly, respecting and avoiding the navigation problems it can raise. So why's everybody so upset about something they have to be careful with ? It's powerful, mind how you handle it !
Bunch'a unhappy crybabies. Badly used AJAX is just another way to root out incompetent Web developers ; the more such red flags there are, the better. Natural selection, you know ?
Please respect the healthy and non-AC troll, thank you.
My apologies, but it definitely seems to me that you are omitting some essential points in your comparison between Microsoft and (for instance) the Mozilla Foundation. How about:
Economic pressure to "get the thing out the door" ? Sure, Microsoft deadlines get as bad a treatment as those of Open Source projects, but the stress is surely much heavier on the individual programmers (keeping one's job, etc.).
Political guidelines / doctrines, by which Microsoft intentionally does not implement some feature sets, or keeps some mistakes up out of principle or backward compatibility considerations.
Open Source programmers are as free as their code, Microsoft employees (be they eminent experts) are not. OK, so the top-level engineers are still defining the main specs, but the setting is not the same : the corporate environment probably does, in my opinion, cause more bugs to arise.
$ fortune -m "trinity lp0" (knghtbrd) % Feb 5 13:27:01 trinity lp0 on fire -- the Linux kernel, alerting me that there was some unknown problem with my printer (ie, it was out of ink) %
Typically conservative stance. It sickens me so much that I can't formulate a properly argumentative answer ; see sibling posts for that.
You will die a slow and painful death. Meanwhile, those of us looking to the future are well aware of the current limitations in XHTML support, but we will pursue our efforts, knowing full well that its day will come. And much sooner than morons such as you seem to think.
P.S. to shon : it occurs to me as I see you five-digit Slashdot ID that you possibly posted that link quite objectively, without actually endorsing its preposterous libel. I sincerely hope that is the case.
The title very obviously states that some kind of power is trying to get Google to shut down its whole Images service.
And who do I see as the editor of a story with such a misleading, borderline-disinforming and simply damn false title ? Whoa hey, if it isn't my good old friend Zonk !
E N O U G H !
XHTML 1.1 now ! XHTML 2 coming up !
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the introduction has a lucid and compelling argument for using HTML 4.01 rather than XHTML as the markup language of choice
Sorry, I trust Sir Tim Berners-Lee more than I trust "Adam Bosworth".
That guy can start by learning how to add some <br/>'s in what he writes (go check out his blog -- horrendous !) before pretending to talk about Web fundamentals.
Oh, and when you think a newsitem is not newsworthy, just move along. I find your comment a lot less interesting than the story itself, and by your own standards that's saying something.
I blame Zonk for a lot of things included, but not limited to : many story duplicates, sensationalism bordering on disinformation, and often posting stories that plainly just don't know what they're talking about.
I realize one would have to Be New Here not to expect such stuff from/. , but Zonk really pushes it to extremes. I can't be bothered to go and fetch a recent very blatant example of an article which was obviously way out of his field of expertise, but I'm sure I wasn't the only one who noticed that it consisted entirely of stuff he squeaked out of his ass.
I admonished him very severely a month ago concerning dupes, and whether he saw the comment or not, I do believe he let fewer through after that, at least for a time ; somehow the positive impression hasn't stuck with me.
Anyway, I now start looking out for him in the news title the same way I keep an eye out for Roland Piquepaille, you know ?
Mod me whatever. I just say what I think out lout, and without AC cover.
I suggest you write a Web server linked to the Zend Engine, so you can read PHP files, which would use the PHP extension that starts up and connects to a Java Virtual Machine, on which another Web server would be implemented, actually serving your files.
All of that running on this JavaScript Web-based OS, as you said.
Zonk, you are an embarassement, an icon of shame for this website.
You've been around long enough now. Time to start quickly checking/. archives before accepting news submissions.
I hope you're really, really ashamed of the multiple editorial failures you're responsible for. Time to step up and do something about it, man ! No need to follow bad examples !
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Alas ! That the same thing was voted in France a couple weeks ago...
Bah, our Minister of the Interior, Nicolas Sarkozy, is best buds with the Bush administration, so what can a guy do ? :-(
So the article is a spoof -- knew I'd read all that already somewhere -- but I say it's illegitimate : comparing AJAX to frames is most insulting in the most unjustifiable way.
Moving on, *NEWSFLASH* : technology can be misused !
AJAX is all about being used properly, respecting and avoiding the navigation problems it can raise. So why's everybody so upset about something they have to be careful with ? It's powerful, mind how you handle it !
Bunch'a unhappy crybabies. Badly used AJAX is just another way to root out incompetent Web developers ; the more such red flags there are, the better. Natural selection, you know ?
Please respect the healthy and non-AC troll, thank you.
My apologies, but it definitely seems to me that you are omitting some essential points in your comparison between Microsoft and (for instance) the Mozilla Foundation. How about :
Open Source programmers are as free as their code, Microsoft employees (be they eminent experts) are not. OK, so the top-level engineers are still defining the main specs, but the setting is not the same : the corporate environment probably does, in my opinion, cause more bugs to arise.
Saw the fortune on /. yesterday :
$ fortune -m "trinity lp0"
(knghtbrd)
%
Feb 5 13:27:01 trinity lp0 on fire
-- the Linux kernel, alerting me that there was some unknown
problem with my printer (ie, it was out of ink)
%
Yes indeed, it is only after posting that I recalled that the first part of that presentation is about abolishing table layouts.
Rapidly, however, from page 8 for instance, it veers on to semantical structure, and the ubiquitous separation of presentation and content.
All very evident nowadays, of course...
Typically conservative stance. It sickens me so much that I can't formulate a properly argumentative answer ; see sibling posts for that.
You will die a slow and painful death. Meanwhile, those of us looking to the future are well aware of the current limitations in XHTML support, but we will pursue our efforts, knowing full well that its day will come. And much sooner than morons such as you seem to think.
People, go read this extremely sensible presentation instead of the bullcrap above, and show it to your bosses.
Thank you.
P.S. to shon : it occurs to me as I see you five-digit Slashdot ID that you possibly posted that link quite objectively, without actually endorsing its preposterous libel. I sincerely hope that is the case.
I absolutely agree !
The title very obviously states that some kind of power is trying to get Google to shut down its whole Images service.
And who do I see as the editor of a story with such a misleading, borderline-disinforming and simply damn false title ? Whoa hey, if it isn't my good old friend Zonk !
E N O U G H !
the introduction has a lucid and compelling argument for using HTML 4.01 rather than XHTML as the markup language of choice
Bye !
(Phew, one less long article to read).
Ye gollywonkers, from the look of the site it's obviously not Web Designer appreciation day !
OK, score one for you :-) I never use line breaks apart from what PHP's nl2br() will generate, so I wasn't careful with my remark.
Mea culpa, and all that ^_^;
Sorry, I trust Sir Tim Berners-Lee more than I trust "Adam Bosworth".
/>'s in what he writes (go check out his blog -- horrendous !) before pretending to talk about Web fundamentals.
That guy can start by learning how to add some <br
You are very obviously new here. It's not just any Hollywood celebrity man, it's Natalie Portman !
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Then see posts related to the Natalie Portman naked & petrified phenomenon on
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4977&cid=1131
Oh, and when you think a newsitem is not newsworthy, just move along. I find your comment a lot less interesting than the story itself, and by your own standards that's saying something.
At least one good thing today. I'm glad it's something as important as this, because it goes a long way towards alleviating the pain.
Yeah, I live in Paris.
I believe you do well to point that out.
/. , but Zonk really pushes it to extremes. I can't be bothered to go and fetch a recent very blatant example of an article which was obviously way out of his field of expertise, but I'm sure I wasn't the only one who noticed that it consisted entirely of stuff he squeaked out of his ass.
I blame Zonk for a lot of things included, but not limited to : many story duplicates, sensationalism bordering on disinformation, and often posting stories that plainly just don't know what they're talking about.
I realize one would have to Be New Here not to expect such stuff from
I admonished him very severely a month ago concerning dupes, and whether he saw the comment or not, I do believe he let fewer through after that, at least for a time ; somehow the positive impression hasn't stuck with me.
Anyway, I now start looking out for him in the news title the same way I keep an eye out for Roland Piquepaille, you know ?
Mod me whatever. I just say what I think out lout, and without AC cover.
I suggest you write a Web server linked to the Zend Engine, so you can read PHP files, which would use the PHP extension that starts up and connects to a Java Virtual Machine, on which another Web server would be implemented, actually serving your files.
All of that running on this JavaScript Web-based OS, as you said.
Arg x_x *brain explodes*
"Mouses" you say ?
It also depends on the nature of a website, and thereby the kind of public it attracts.
:-)
For example, the French bash.org, http://bashfr.org/ , has these stats in which Firefox is at nearly 41%, with IE at less than 39%.
Closer to the 49% already, isn't it ?
Probably confusing wave-powered with tide-powered, but the Usine marémotrice de la Rance was inaugurated by De Gaulle in november of 1966 !
Someone care to explain the difference ?
Zonk, you are an embarassement, an icon of shame for this website.
/. archives before accepting news submissions.
You've been around long enough now. Time to start quickly checking
I hope you're really, really ashamed of the multiple editorial failures you're responsible for. Time to step up and do something about it, man ! No need to follow bad examples !
And I choose not to go AC to say that.
You had me doubting myself there, but it's a valid synonym for "linguistic" apparently :
i cal
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=linguist
Should we start a daily poll on the dumbest grammar submitted to our cringing linguistical consciences over a 24-hour period ?
Here is the big difference : I use colons and question marks.
Period.
Enjoy it while it lasts
Enjoy ? This is Longhorn, I'm not enjoying anything !
I mod the newspost +1 Funny.
... calling the MIT neuroscientists "bird brains" !
I'll say, those folder icons are flipping me off !
That or they're presenting a bottle of orange juice...