people with lots of real-world money can achieve in games what normally takes hard-working players a long time to accomplish.
Sad to say, but it sounds just like the real life.
Replace "game" by "university" and you get one such example.
So basically, people blame IGE for being just one more company servicing the "rich people"? I don't see any difference with what I see everyday in the capitalist world.
I still don't understand what makes IGE disreputable
They have found a niche market where they can make a lot of money. If it works, fine. Nobody's being harmed or spoiled - they are not breaking any law, so what's all the fuss about that?
They sell in-game content, which purchase the game provider prohibits? Well, fine again, don't buy it if you don't want your game account cancelled.
For all the rich idiots that buy 100 gold in World of Warcraft for 45 USD. Fine again! Have fun! Spend your money!
The art part and the storyline is not given to a developer to produce you know...You may not even ever see a sprite on your screen while working.
How can I accept a game design professor's ideas when I disagree fundamentally on what I think is fun?
Because you say I always doubted my math and physics professors in school and it sounds nothing wil change it. If you cannot trust someone that is your teacher in some field, forget it and learn by yourself. But you will never find anyone to trust you either.
We cannot control the effects and cost of global warming on our own planet, so let's try it somewhere else and in the long run, reduce costs for earth inhabitants.
Fortunately enough, nobody yet figured out how to make PROFIT with this
Really? And how does anyone know that it is that far away?
You seem to be requiring some education on that topic, so let's try to answer in simple terms all the questions you have:
And how does anyone know that it is that far away?
Most of the time, the way to measure distances to far away objects is to use the "doppler effect" (the effect that makes the police siren change tone when they move toward you), which depends on the speed of the object from you as well as its distance. By looking at the spectrogram of some object, you can find out what it is made of. Knowing that, you can measure how the spectrogram has been affected by the Doppler effect, hence compute its speed compared to us.
Knowing the speed and knowing the rough "size" (I simplify here, universe doesn't really have a "size" like you would have) and how the universe expands, you can compute the distance to this object.
Do they shoot out a signal and wait for the signal to return and then calculate the distance?
No, in this particular instance, it is X-ray bursts coming FROM the star. It shoots its energy in all directions, so that includes shooting it toward us. X-rays are just like visible light, but carrying much more energy. Such events generally light up the whole sky and are easy to detect when you already look in the direction of the event.
Wouldn't that signal take several hundred million years just to reach the target even at the speed of light?
Indeed! And it did! We receive the result billions of years after, but it doesn't matter. You have a snapshot of the universe at a given time. And knowing HOW it evolves (astronomers now know a lot about this), you can deduct what it is you are looking at. In the particular case of dark matter, dark matter interacts with usual matter so that is the interaction and the long-term result that we see. And the whole thing about dark matter is that we could see that *something* is interacting with normal matter, but WHAT?. With the Chandra observatory, they have found WHAT.
I doubt that anyone had the technology several hundred million years ago to shoot such a signal.
You do not require technology for this. Remember, it is the UNIVERSE. Forces at stake are nothing comparable to any technology you have on earth.
We happen to live next to a relatively small star, and there is already a lot of energy coming out from it (you feel it each time you sunbath).
Objects that blow up in supernovaes are billion times more energetic than our sun and what happens when they explode (and we receive the x-ray from it long afterward) is like a thermonuclear explosion, but million times more powerful than ANYTHING you'll ever see.
If that distance is correct, wouldn't we be seeing what that object looked like several hundred million years ago?
Yes, but again that doesn't matter. It still clues scientist to what filters it before it reaches us. And it is the filter part that is important.
That object may have ceased to exist millions of years ago.
For once you are probably right.
Stars live millions to billions of years. Ones tha t transform in supernovaes are very unstable and blow off in only a few days/months! And it is incredible luck and very exciting when you can actually catch such an event with a telescope.
That is part of what is so exciting about those bursts: they are FAR away, hence VERY OLD, they happen very rarely but they are so energetic that we can use them for collecting ALOT of information on the universe.
So, why are we wasting our resources on it?
I won't discuss the importance of science, but I can kinda illustrate why:
If we would not, you would never have had a micro-wave to heat your chicken, no way to forcast weather for your week of holidays in Cuba, no cell phones, etc.
If people did not spend time understanding where we live, we would still be at the stone age.
I'm sure you would not like it!
Most of science is speculation, and therefore, shouldn't be taken seriously.
That is utterly stupid and troll of you to say this. If you really believe it, I am sorry to say that you're out of your mnid. If you don't you are trolling around and I'm happy to try educating a troll.
It doesn't really state anything explicitely but if you are not aware that Saddam was funded by the CIA during the Iran/Irak war, you must either be from Texas or the only one on the rest of the world to not know about it.
The trouble with replacing Hubble with a new one is (aside from the money of course) the time. Such a project is a many-years long project, not something you knock up in minutes.
Hubble is so important for science right now that it is understandable that astronomers are reluctant to dump it or not service it. They've been waiting so long and got so much result from it that it can be difficult to just abandon it. Many science projets rely on its data.
Funny - they haven't found any of those weapons that you are talking about and which form your single argument. Worse, it has proven that it was false claims all along.
However, it was much easier to find soldiers torturing innocent civilians and jailing them for years without a charge and without any right.
These are also criminal activities in regard to international laws.
So give us a break - you're being ridiculous here.
The objective of society has NOTHING to do with how much money someone has. Stop being an idiot.
Anthropology tells us that humans strive to achieve happiness through their life ("happiness" is VERY subjective and depends on the society you are in - in the G8 countries, it could relate to "amount of money" unfortunately).
Bunching up in societies is, according to Jean-Jacques Rousseau, the more efficient way for humans to achieve this goal.
Take those two assumptions: in our capitalist country, the way to reach happiness has a LOT to do with how wealthy you are. It's not ALL of it, but PART of it.
And in capitalist USA, money is the only way to achieve anything.
Oh! The Bush/Neo-conservative rethoric again! Can you at least think by yourself?
The USA sent an AIRCRAFT CARRIER
Where? Toward the axis of Evil?
useless freeloading U.N
I hope you sent the neo-conservatives to help Asia in your big carrier, and that it'll crash somewhere in the pacific ocean. THAT would be a "relief".
God knows
...that Bush has a stellar mission. Yes, we've heard that one too.
As for to make a people count, I'm still waiting for him to send his last version of the list of generous citizens from the USA. Shall I assume that there is none since we've never seen that list?
Shall I remind you that the amazing generosity of Germans was saluted worldwide? And that it was PRIVATE, lamba people, money?
You see, we don't have a 60% tax rate here so we rely on individuals' free generosity rather than compulsion
The only country who has such a high level of taxes is a nordic country, there, in Europe (the other part of the world).
And funnily enough, it works just fine and people have free available medecine, social protection , decent unemployement wages, etc.
Since you are at showing percentages, did you know that USA has the highest ratio of people under the poverty level of ALL the "modern" countries? A blasting 15% of the population. A shame if you ask me. Maybe there is a reason why people accept to pay taxes in the "other" countries (you know, the "rest" of the world...)
What you say is just the usual blind non-sense from redneck USA. How about you visit the world and change your TV channel once in your life?
Well...It might be inproperly configured but...it's an out-of-the-box configuration. You kinda expect it to work a bit more than that.
As for being broken, it's less than one year old and has no more updates available without tweakings that a windows user will never dare doing.
If it is broken, it was from the start. I maintain my argument about booting and such.
Apparently you never played ANY DOS games which all ran at ring 0.
We are discussing about a Win32 Kernel here (NT/2000/XP). What does DOS has to do with it?
Also your statment of 'Win32 kernel is inherently designed the wrong way' is missleading.
Ah...Well..probably you know it all and all the litterature on OS design is wrong.
But if you think DOS when talking Win32 kernel, I can understand why you feel mislead.
Ever hear of a root kit? In linux they are fairly common. Usually computers are compromised/crashed through OTHER methods. I am not running apache 1.3.33 (33 REVISIONS!) because I want to upgrade. It is because of ROOT exploits in it.
Root kits: install any DLL that hook to the system, such as hooking to the Winsock DLL. Have it do anything you want to your system. In the case of Winsock DLL, you can sniff IP packets. Easy as pie. All you need is admin access to do this. No difference with a compromised Linux system.
I am not running apache 1.3.33 (33 REVISIONS!) because I want to upgrade.
You might not be aware of this, but this is a healthy sign that any issue is promptly addressed and a fix provided. You do not get that with M$, this is a fact.
It is because of ROOT exploits in it
So tell me. Say you use an unpatched a Microsoft IIS that has known buffer overflow exploits. IIS runs with enough privileges to damage your system AND the rest of your network from a nicely crafted URL. Again, how different is this from an unpatched Apache?
Also think about X for a second I MUST have a network stack in order to draw things to the screen. And the windows kernel is the one with the design flaw? IM DRAWING TO THE SCREEN...
Now it's getting clear you have no idea what a good OS design is.
Tell me how useful it is to load a full GUI subsystem when you only need to perform some command line scripts? That is where Windows fails. Because the GUI management is on RING0, YOU CANNOT do that. It is just impossible.
With a X system, it is just an OPTION. You can even have any kind of X-servers on any machine, THANKS to the usage of a network stack behind the scene. What you think is a design flaw is actually a good feature (arguably, it could be better but that's not the debate here).
Think I shall invent a game called 'The slashdot troll'. But I need a points system. Something to do with userid too.
For this, you should not post as "Anonymous Coward" first of all.
So that way the lower the id that responds the more points you get. Also geting modded up would help.
You want my mod points? You need some karma? I'll send you some - I have a lot!
But getting modded troll would hurt you somehow
How exactly? My Karma maybe? Aaarrh ! I can't live without my +100 Karma bonus! Please do not kill my Karma! It's so important to me all those digits on top of my web page!
Much thinking needed here.
Yes, definitely. You should start now. I suggest you also buy books about Operating System design prior to your thinking.
However in order to get points you need to get real members to respond.
(Hit the "subscribe" link - but you should know already, and as a Troll I don't want to appear like I'm giving you lessons. You seem so much knowledgeable!)
I hate to say it but I've been rebooting my Linux machine more often than my XP one recently, and really because of bugs in the Samba server (who crashed the whole thing to unusable state more than once).
Auto-update features in my distro of course are broken because...update URLs have moved, version of the Linux I have is no longer updated, although less than 2 years old, etc.
And boot time under Linux is nowhere close to WinXP.
Actually, my Linux behaves like plain old Win2K: waiting forever on a connection timeout or a failed component to load...
As much as Slashdot would like it, Windows has had a lot of improvements that makes it much more friendly since XP for the tech-savy as well as the end user.
Can anyone point us to an article on how to have those World of Warcraft characters do all this funny things and how to record a whole sequence and not just a screenshot?
WoW Interface commands don't do *that* much, do they?
Slashdot Mirror
people with lots of real-world money can achieve in games what normally takes hard-working players a long time to accomplish.
Sad to say, but it sounds just like the real life. Replace "game" by "university" and you get one such example.So basically, people blame IGE for being just one more company servicing the "rich people"? I don't see any difference with what I see everyday in the capitalist world.
I still don't understand what makes IGE disreputable
They have found a niche market where they can make a lot of money. If it works, fine. Nobody's being harmed or spoiled - they are not breaking any law, so what's all the fuss about that?
They sell in-game content, which purchase the game provider prohibits? Well, fine again, don't buy it if you don't want your game account cancelled.
For all the rich idiots that buy 100 gold in World of Warcraft for 45 USD. Fine again! Have fun! Spend your money!
Because it's not about *fun* but *design*.
The art part and the storyline is not given to a developer to produce you know...You may not even ever see a sprite on your screen while working.
How can I accept a game design professor's ideas when I disagree fundamentally on what I think is fun?
Because you say I always doubted my math and physics professors in school and it sounds nothing wil change it. If you cannot trust someone that is your teacher in some field, forget it and learn by yourself. But you will never find anyone to trust you either.No you always have a speed compared to something that is not YOU. Your speed given you as the reference point is always 0.
Well..your sources are from 2001.
That's already a long time compared to how fast meteorology advances.
Strange, you seem to read Slashdot, but apparently not all articles.
This story appeared a while ago and the topic seems to reach a certain consensus among scientists.
So, please, apply your own advices to yourself before spreading your words
Excellent!
We cannot control the effects and cost of global warming on our own planet, so let's try it somewhere else and in the long run, reduce costs for earth inhabitants.
Fortunately enough, nobody yet figured out how to make PROFIT with this
It's probably too scarse. You need objects like black holes or huge massive stars to actually see gravitationnal lenses.
Really? And how does anyone know that it is that far away?
You seem to be requiring some education on that topic, so let's try to answer in simple terms all the questions you have:And how does anyone know that it is that far away?
Most of the time, the way to measure distances to far away objects is to use the "doppler effect" (the effect that makes the police siren change tone when they move toward you), which depends on the speed of the object from you as well as its distance. By looking at the spectrogram of some object, you can find out what it is made of. Knowing that, you can measure how the spectrogram has been affected by the Doppler effect, hence compute its speed compared to us. Knowing the speed and knowing the rough "size" (I simplify here, universe doesn't really have a "size" like you would have) and how the universe expands, you can compute the distance to this object.Do they shoot out a signal and wait for the signal to return and then calculate the distance?
No, in this particular instance, it is X-ray bursts coming FROM the star. It shoots its energy in all directions, so that includes shooting it toward us. X-rays are just like visible light, but carrying much more energy. Such events generally light up the whole sky and are easy to detect when you already look in the direction of the event. Wouldn't that signal take several hundred million years just to reach the target even at the speed of light? Indeed! And it did! We receive the result billions of years after, but it doesn't matter. You have a snapshot of the universe at a given time. And knowing HOW it evolves (astronomers now know a lot about this), you can deduct what it is you are looking at. In the particular case of dark matter, dark matter interacts with usual matter so that is the interaction and the long-term result that we see. And the whole thing about dark matter is that we could see that *something* is interacting with normal matter, but WHAT?. With the Chandra observatory, they have found WHAT.I doubt that anyone had the technology several hundred million years ago to shoot such a signal.
You do not require technology for this. Remember, it is the UNIVERSE. Forces at stake are nothing comparable to any technology you have on earth. We happen to live next to a relatively small star, and there is already a lot of energy coming out from it (you feel it each time you sunbath). Objects that blow up in supernovaes are billion times more energetic than our sun and what happens when they explode (and we receive the x-ray from it long afterward) is like a thermonuclear explosion, but million times more powerful than ANYTHING you'll ever see.If that distance is correct, wouldn't we be seeing what that object looked like several hundred million years ago?
Yes, but again that doesn't matter. It still clues scientist to what filters it before it reaches us. And it is the filter part that is important.That object may have ceased to exist millions of years ago.
For once you are probably right. Stars live millions to billions of years. Ones tha t transform in supernovaes are very unstable and blow off in only a few days/months! And it is incredible luck and very exciting when you can actually catch such an event with a telescope. That is part of what is so exciting about those bursts: they are FAR away, hence VERY OLD, they happen very rarely but they are so energetic that we can use them for collecting ALOT of information on the universe.So, why are we wasting our resources on it?
I won't discuss the importance of science, but I can kinda illustrate why: If we would not, you would never have had a micro-wave to heat your chicken, no way to forcast weather for your week of holidays in Cuba, no cell phones, etc.If people did not spend time understanding where we live, we would still be at the stone age. I'm sure you would not like it!
Most of science is speculation, and therefore, shouldn't be taken seriously.
That is utterly stupid and troll of you to say this. If you really believe it, I am sorry to say that you're out of your mnid. If you don't you are trolling around and I'm happy to try educating a troll.It doesn't really state anything explicitely but if you are not aware that Saddam was funded by the CIA during the Iran/Irak war, you must either be from Texas or the only one on the rest of the world to not know about it.
Funny how everyone takes everything badly on Slashdot... It *was* a *joke* but you obviously took it seriously and personnaly.
The trouble with replacing Hubble with a new one is (aside from the money of course) the time. Such a project is a many-years long project, not something you knock up in minutes. Hubble is so important for science right now that it is understandable that astronomers are reluctant to dump it or not service it. They've been waiting so long and got so much result from it that it can be difficult to just abandon it. Many science projets rely on its data.
Looks like Saddam killed at least 250,000 people just in 1988 and after the first Gulf war
And guess who funded that war against Iran that lead to that slaughter?Answer: you, thanks to taxes you pay to the so-trustworthy USA
I know you guys are not good at Maths, but hell! so much ignorance is really getting out of hands
most people would rather die of an instant death, such as bombs dropped accidentally in civillian areas, than being tortured by Saddam.
Yes and how many would have preferred dying from a surgical strike rather than being tortured and humiliated in Abu Graib?Your comparison is ridiculous, outrageous and unfortunately stupid common american thinking.
Funny - they haven't found any of those weapons that you are talking about and which form your single argument. Worse, it has proven that it was false claims all along. However, it was much easier to find soldiers torturing innocent civilians and jailing them for years without a charge and without any right. These are also criminal activities in regard to international laws. So give us a break - you're being ridiculous here.
The objective of society has NOTHING to do with how much money someone has. Stop being an idiot.
Anthropology tells us that humans strive to achieve happiness through their life ("happiness" is VERY subjective and depends on the society you are in - in the G8 countries, it could relate to "amount of money" unfortunately).
Bunching up in societies is, according to Jean-Jacques Rousseau, the more efficient way for humans to achieve this goal.
Take those two assumptions: in our capitalist country, the way to reach happiness has a LOT to do with how wealthy you are. It's not ALL of it, but PART of it.
And in capitalist USA, money is the only way to achieve anything.Stop being an idiot.
Hum....who? you?Oh wait! That's been tried before. Never mind...
You mean in Soviet Russia? You must be an insensitive clod!The USA sent an AIRCRAFT CARRIER
Where? Toward the axis of Evil?useless freeloading U.N
I hope you sent the neo-conservatives to help Asia in your big carrier, and that it'll crash somewhere in the pacific ocean. THAT would be a "relief".God knows
You see, we don't have a 60% tax rate here so we rely on individuals' free generosity rather than compulsion
The only country who has such a high level of taxes is a nordic country, there, in Europe (the other part of the world). And funnily enough, it works just fine and people have free available medecine, social protection , decent unemployement wages, etc.Since you are at showing percentages, did you know that USA has the highest ratio of people under the poverty level of ALL the "modern" countries? A blasting 15% of the population. A shame if you ask me. Maybe there is a reason why people accept to pay taxes in the "other" countries (you know, the "rest" of the world...)
What you say is just the usual blind non-sense from redneck USA. How about you visit the world and change your TV channel once in your life?Well...It might be inproperly configured but...it's an out-of-the-box configuration. You kinda expect it to work a bit more than that. As for being broken, it's less than one year old and has no more updates available without tweakings that a windows user will never dare doing. If it is broken, it was from the start. I maintain my argument about booting and such.
Apparently you never played ANY DOS games which all ran at ring 0.
We are discussing about a Win32 Kernel here (NT/2000/XP). What does DOS has to do with it?Also your statment of 'Win32 kernel is inherently designed the wrong way' is missleading.
Ah...Well..probably you know it all and all the litterature on OS design is wrong. But if you think DOS when talking Win32 kernel, I can understand why you feel mislead.Ever hear of a root kit? In linux they are fairly common. Usually computers are compromised/crashed through OTHER methods. I am not running apache 1.3.33 (33 REVISIONS!) because I want to upgrade. It is because of ROOT exploits in it.
Root kits: install any DLL that hook to the system, such as hooking to the Winsock DLL. Have it do anything you want to your system. In the case of Winsock DLL, you can sniff IP packets. Easy as pie. All you need is admin access to do this. No difference with a compromised Linux system.I am not running apache 1.3.33 (33 REVISIONS!) because I want to upgrade.
You might not be aware of this, but this is a healthy sign that any issue is promptly addressed and a fix provided. You do not get that with M$, this is a fact.It is because of ROOT exploits in it
So tell me. Say you use an unpatched a Microsoft IIS that has known buffer overflow exploits. IIS runs with enough privileges to damage your system AND the rest of your network from a nicely crafted URL. Again, how different is this from an unpatched Apache?Also think about X for a second I MUST have a network stack in order to draw things to the screen. And the windows kernel is the one with the design flaw? IM DRAWING TO THE SCREEN...
Now it's getting clear you have no idea what a good OS design is.Tell me how useful it is to load a full GUI subsystem when you only need to perform some command line scripts? That is where Windows fails. Because the GUI management is on RING0, YOU CANNOT do that. It is just impossible.
With a X system, it is just an OPTION. You can even have any kind of X-servers on any machine, THANKS to the usage of a network stack behind the scene. What you think is a design flaw is actually a good feature (arguably, it could be better but that's not the debate here).
Think I shall invent a game called 'The slashdot troll'. But I need a points system. Something to do with userid too.
For this, you should not post as "Anonymous Coward" first of all.So that way the lower the id that responds the more points you get. Also geting modded up would help.
You want my mod points? You need some karma? I'll send you some - I have a lot!But getting modded troll would hurt you somehow
How exactly? My Karma maybe? Aaarrh ! I can't live without my +100 Karma bonus! Please do not kill my Karma! It's so important to me all those digits on top of my web page!Much thinking needed here.
Yes, definitely. You should start now. I suggest you also buy books about Operating System design prior to your thinking.However in order to get points you need to get real members to respond.
(Hit the "subscribe" link - but you should know already, and as a Troll I don't want to appear like I'm giving you lessons. You seem so much knowledgeable!)Well..having the UI runtime on Ring 0 actually limits the customisation of this OS if you ask me.
So nothing STOPS you, but also nothing will HELP you achieve this.
And unlike X-Windows, NOTHING will actually work correctly or smoothly because the Win32 kernel is inherently designed the wrong way.
I hate to say it but I've been rebooting my Linux machine more often than my XP one recently, and really because of bugs in the Samba server (who crashed the whole thing to unusable state more than once). Auto-update features in my distro of course are broken because...update URLs have moved, version of the Linux I have is no longer updated, although less than 2 years old, etc.
And boot time under Linux is nowhere close to WinXP.
Actually, my Linux behaves like plain old Win2K: waiting forever on a connection timeout or a failed component to load...
As much as Slashdot would like it, Windows has had a lot of improvements that makes it much more friendly since XP for the tech-savy as well as the end user.
Are they...outsourced indian lawyers?
Handwriting analysis is well known to be a non-science with non-facts based on non-events that produce non-results.
It's also a non-brainer way for slashdotters to do some M$ bashing.
Maybe it's time for /. to move on or for me to stop wasting my time. The quality of information on this site is degrading every day.
WoW Interface commands don't do *that* much, do they?
Nice piece of useless writing. Thinking that people actually spend time writing those things. I wonder what silicon they smoke