"Twenty years later the term passed into common use on the Internet to describe exponential spikes in website or server usage when one passes a certain threshold of popular interest "
"everytime we tried to get into a heavy discussion on ipv6, or Win XP, these barely dressed women would walk by, dance around a pole, and try to sit on our laps. You didn't miss much."
I think a big thing to take into account is that, until linux desktop is a viable alternative (read: an exact clone) of windows, and until it's easy to configure and install, and maintain for complete newbies, it's userbase isn't going to expand dramtically to include my parents and their friends.
The above is important for one reason. Bill Gates isn't a computer genius, he's a genius business man. He founded a company which he knew could penetrate everyone's everyday life, any business, and any commerical entity.
The 'innovation' MS, Apple, etc all, are introducing is a result of a companies which wants to make more money -- it just happens to be that they make software.
Profts drive innovation becuase one will innovate to find a market niche and sell that innovation as a product and become rich.
Until the linux desktop can interoperate completely with windows, act like windows and install like windows my parents and their friends will not be using it. When that happens you can be sure that the user base will expand. When the user base expands companies will create and sell innovation in an attempt to recieve profit.
And, Bill Gates doesn't give a flying fuck whether he's making money from Software, cars, toilet paper, or whatever! It's business. Business drives innovation, and there's really no business attacking the software linux software industry as hard as microsoft is attacking the win32 software industy.
First the clone, then the interoperability, then the useability, then the user base.
Sure, right now we're at step 1 - clone. But what a fucking clone it's becoming. I love linux, my desktop is beautiful, functional, and i've doing everything and more i ever did in windows. it'll come dude, but it needs to mature greatly.
Try it. While I wont recieve it instantly, you will recieve a very simple polite automatic reply. If you follow the simple instruction I will recieve it.
big plus in my book. No (l)users sending me mail
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well, if they add that little bit of logic, i have their valid e-mail address. if i have that, then I can retaliate.
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Number of spam recieved since I installed it 3 weeks ago: None!
Go ahead, dmarien@dmarien.com spam the hell outta me. It wont get though! Sell my e-mail! Post it on any message board you want. I'm not gonna get any spam.
If any of you/.ers are running qmail and managing your own email server, i wholeheartedly reccommend you investigate tmda. I enjoy checking my mail again.
in debian, apt-get apache. in gentoo, emerge apache.
in debian, apt-get links: downloads and installs links (text based browser)
in gentoo, emerge links: downloads links source code, all dependancies (source too), downloads XFree86 4.2.0 (if X doesn't exist), downloads the X add-on for links, and boom, in one command, I downloaded, configured, built, and installed a text based browser, X server, and a graphical add-on to make a text based browser a graphical one.
that just happened to be the first app i 'emerged', and i nearly shit my pants when I saw how powerfull ports is.
that's pretty powerfull.
and there's a command to upgrade the entire gentoo distrobution. i didn't need to do it, since I performed a stage3 install, but it's something insanely simple such as 'emerge rsync'.
gentoo rocks d00d, it'll take over, trust me. it has the absolute fastest growing userbase of any distro. in months it became in the top 7 distros, and it's still pretty much beta pre-production.
Thanks d00d. That was a great reply, hopefully that wasn't copied and pasted from somewhere:)
i was talking about my personal desktop in my room
i'm sure that gentoo can easily check against updates for apache/sendmail/php/mysql/qmail/etc... and automatically compile them. yeah it might take some time, but honestly, if it's a production box you're looking at some impressive hardware under the hood and high clockspeeds, i don't see compile time for these (relatively) small projects being a reason against source package management.
and because i'm only *very* familliar with slack, i'm not sure about other OSes, especially bsd variants (i have no experience). But ports, and the portage system came from bsd variants, no?
and bsd, is the most widely used unix variant in production systems, no?
if it's good for the market leader of OSes on production servers, a source based package management portage system is good enough for my little desktop
also, i heard somewhere that the package management system used by gentoo can be easily modified to support binaries, and that a few people are working on getting it stable, so if that's true what reasons still exist for using debian instead of gentoo...?
one more thing... i found it funny that you pointed at slack's age of 6 months when you're defending debian. they haven't released a new verison while i've even been using linux.
I ran a stage3 install, but followed the docs as if I had performed a stage 1 (the 16MB ISO wouldn't boot for me!). Anyway -- overnight, and by mid day it was completed. PII 300,/w 320 MB RAM & 18GB SCSI.
Freakin' great so far... now if only I could find out how to get openssh keys generated I'd be able to administer it from work... I literally just drove home, typed 'emerge kde', then drove back:)
I've been using Gentoo for approximately 3 days. I've dabbled in Debian, flirted with Red Hat, but generally used Slackware.
Gentoo has everything I liked about Slack, simple install, text based configuration, *very* simple package management, and none of the things I disliked about Debian -- generic builds, and the possibility of apt-get freakin' out.
In Slackware land, everything gets compiled (unless using the RPM hack), and the result is a very fast system, that was built on your hardware and for your hardware. Apps, daemons run noticebly faster, and the resulting binary is less likely to hicup.
However, Gentoo is by far the most impressive operating system I've ever used. Within hours of the new KDE 3.1alpha1 being released, there was a Gentoo package. Sure, it linked to thousands of dependancies, and would take half a day to compile, but packages can be updated very *very* easily, intead of Debian's methadology where they provide binaries which are supposed to work on generic Debian systems. The good thing^tm about source code is that it can be compiled by any computer which has the libraries, and the modules installed, why anyone would consider using binary package management over source boggles my mind. Expect the Gentoo userbase to skyrocket.
So, no thank you. Give me a command line to install my operating system, then give me a compiler and some friggin' source...
I once, after installing, needed to raise a concern to the author, djb. I e-mailed him, and instantly recieved an automatic response.
The automatic reply stated that djb recieves an enourmous amount of mail, spam, and technical support inquiries. If I really wanted to e-mail him, the letter went on, I would have to reply to the automatic reply and copy in a 12 digit code which the automatic reply included.
I did that, and then recieved a 2nd automatic reply, stating that the code I entered was correct, and that djb would recieve my mail.
I imagine that a mail system setup in that regard would be the most potent weapon a mail server could utilize against spam!
The mail server could keep a database of known senders who entered the code correctly, and thereafter automatically accept their 'friendly' e-mail.
I forsee a potential abuses for this though. Annoying "spam bots" could learn to decipher the first automatic reply containing the code and then automatically send the spam, and contain the code which will allow the mail server to recieve the mail.
I would ask that if anyone knows how to install/administer the add on to qmail which performs this to please let me know! I recieve a tonne of spam, and becuase I get everything sent to the domain 'dmarien.com', I'll sometimes get upwards of 100/day.
Also, if anyone has a qmail server setup in this manner please let me know how satisfied they are with it's performance, and whether they get complaints -- and even if spam get's through -- i'd love to know.
Slashdot Mirror
allways useful, and they'll have more testers and those who follow through and actually download/install their software.
to paraphrase rat poison's (x gui/shell) site, screenshots - because too many ppl will bitch in their absence.
This is how I felt yesterday: http://dmarien.com/?section=menuNews&sid=38 sometimes your flush, sometimes your bust.
I could have sworn this was a dupe post... i had read about this (i though here) months ago...
But my search revealed nothing... cept this story about a device which repels sharks...
"Twenty years later the term passed into common use on the Internet to describe exponential spikes in website or server usage when one passes a certain threshold of popular interest "
Flash Crowd == Slashdot Effect.
If they are stripped down and re-packaged Nokia 8260s, then yes -- using them will be an excerise in futility.
Me: "Excuse me, do you have debit?"
Gas Station Attendant: "No, but we have a bank machine..." *points*
Me: But there's a $2.50 fee for using that ABM!"
Gas Station Attendant: "That'll be $18"
disclaimer: to be used in regards to the tourist who will be looking for a payphone at 7-11 in 3 months
Then they should be professional, and understand that they need to be productive or they're fired.
I'd just give them all a frank speech that begins "You need to suck less, and if you don't have a fucking clue, ask me..."
history lesson
i remember the ninja verison of this. mad props, if i had mod points you have +1 funny.
"It was at the Klassy Kat, and it sucked"
Okay, well why?
"everytime we tried to get into a heavy discussion on ipv6, or Win XP, these barely dressed women would walk by, dance around a pole, and try to sit on our laps. You didn't miss much."
*shakes head sadly*
what a lucky guess
here
Can I descramble cable television pr0n, yet?
I think a big thing to take into account is that, until linux desktop is a viable alternative (read: an exact clone) of windows, and until it's easy to configure and install, and maintain for complete newbies, it's userbase isn't going to expand dramtically to include my parents and their friends.
The above is important for one reason. Bill Gates isn't a computer genius, he's a genius business man. He founded a company which he knew could penetrate everyone's everyday life, any business, and any commerical entity.
The 'innovation' MS, Apple, etc all, are introducing is a result of a companies which wants to make more money -- it just happens to be that they make software.
Profts drive innovation becuase one will innovate to find a market niche and sell that innovation as a product and become rich.
Until the linux desktop can interoperate completely with windows, act like windows and install like windows my parents and their friends will not be using it. When that happens you can be sure that the user base will expand. When the user base expands companies will create and sell innovation in an attempt to recieve profit.
And, Bill Gates doesn't give a flying fuck whether he's making money from Software, cars, toilet paper, or whatever! It's business. Business drives innovation, and there's really no business attacking the software linux software industry as hard as microsoft is attacking the win32 software industy.
First the clone, then the interoperability, then the useability, then the user base.
Sure, right now we're at step 1 - clone. But what a fucking clone it's becoming. I love linux, my desktop is beautiful, functional, and i've doing everything and more i ever did in windows. it'll come dude, but it needs to mature greatly.
As soon as the company files for ch. 11, we start blamming them for everything!
Try it. While I wont recieve it instantly, you will recieve a very simple polite automatic reply. If you follow the simple instruction I will recieve it. big plus in my book. No (l)users sending me mail
well, if they add that little bit of logic, i have their valid e-mail address. if i have that, then I can retaliate.
T.M.D.A.
/.ers are running qmail and managing your own email server, i wholeheartedly reccommend you investigate tmda. I enjoy checking my mail again.
It stands for tagged message delivery agent.
Read more here
Number of spam recieved since I installed it 3 weeks ago: None!
Go ahead, dmarien@dmarien.com spam the hell outta me. It wont get though! Sell my e-mail! Post it on any message board you want. I'm not gonna get any spam.
If any of you
A Gentoo Stage 3 install is a 100MB cdrom ISO, and you don't need to download more than 10Mb during install.
d00d,
in debian, apt-get apache.
in gentoo, emerge apache.
in debian, apt-get links:
downloads and installs links (text based browser)
in gentoo, emerge links:
downloads links source code, all dependancies (source too), downloads XFree86 4.2.0 (if X doesn't exist), downloads the X add-on for links, and boom, in one command, I downloaded, configured, built, and installed a text based browser, X server, and a graphical add-on to make a text based browser a graphical one.
that just happened to be the first app i 'emerged', and i nearly shit my pants when I saw how powerfull ports is.
that's pretty powerfull.
and there's a command to upgrade the entire gentoo distrobution. i didn't need to do it, since I performed a stage3 install, but it's something insanely simple such as 'emerge rsync'.
gentoo rocks d00d, it'll take over, trust me. it has the absolute fastest growing userbase of any distro. in months it became in the top 7 distros, and it's still pretty much beta pre-production.
give it some time
Thanks d00d. That was a great reply, hopefully that wasn't copied and pasted from somewhere :)
i was talking about my personal desktop in my room
i'm sure that gentoo can easily check against updates for apache/sendmail/php/mysql/qmail/etc... and automatically compile them. yeah it might take some time, but honestly, if it's a production box you're looking at some impressive hardware under the hood and high clockspeeds, i don't see compile time for these (relatively) small projects being a reason against source package management.
and because i'm only *very* familliar with slack, i'm not sure about other OSes, especially bsd variants (i have no experience). But ports, and the portage system came from bsd variants, no?
and bsd, is the most widely used unix variant in production systems, no?
if it's good for the market leader of OSes on production servers, a source based package management portage system is good enough for my little desktop
also, i heard somewhere that the package management system used by gentoo can be easily modified to support binaries, and that a few people are working on getting it stable, so if that's true what reasons still exist for using debian instead of gentoo...?
one more thing... i found it funny that you pointed at slack's age of 6 months when you're defending debian. they haven't released a new verison while i've even been using linux.
anyway -- good well writen reply, thanks.
I ran a stage3 install, but followed the docs as if I had performed a stage 1 (the 16MB ISO wouldn't boot for me!). Anyway -- overnight, and by mid day it was completed. PII 300, /w 320 MB RAM & 18GB SCSI.
:)
Freakin' great so far... now if only I could find out how to get openssh keys generated I'd be able to administer it from work... I literally just drove home, typed 'emerge kde', then drove back
Ya wanna bet that by the time you see KDE 3.1 (alpha or not), that i'll be done compiling?
I've been using Gentoo for approximately 3 days. I've dabbled in Debian, flirted with Red Hat, but generally used Slackware.
Gentoo has everything I liked about Slack, simple install, text based configuration, *very* simple package management, and none of the things I disliked about Debian -- generic builds, and the possibility of apt-get freakin' out.
In Slackware land, everything gets compiled (unless using the RPM hack), and the result is a very fast system, that was built on your hardware and for your hardware. Apps, daemons run noticebly faster, and the resulting binary is less likely to hicup.
However, Gentoo is by far the most impressive operating system I've ever used. Within hours of the new KDE 3.1alpha1 being released, there was a Gentoo package. Sure, it linked to thousands of dependancies, and would take half a day to compile, but packages can be updated very *very* easily, intead of Debian's methadology where they provide binaries which are supposed to work on generic Debian systems. The good thing^tm about source code is that it can be compiled by any computer which has the libraries, and the modules installed, why anyone would consider using binary package management over source boggles my mind. Expect the Gentoo userbase to skyrocket.
So, no thank you. Give me a command line to install my operating system, then give me a compiler and some friggin' source...
For I use Gentoo, and I am a power user.
Verizon control? That's a great idea! We should enforce regulations as to how many annoying commercials they are allowed to air in one day!
Can you hear me now? Good...
I once, after installing, needed to raise a concern to the author, djb. I e-mailed him, and instantly recieved an automatic response.
The automatic reply stated that djb recieves an enourmous amount of mail, spam, and technical support inquiries. If I really wanted to e-mail him, the letter went on, I would have to reply to the automatic reply and copy in a 12 digit code which the automatic reply included.
I did that, and then recieved a 2nd automatic reply, stating that the code I entered was correct, and that djb would recieve my mail.
I imagine that a mail system setup in that regard would be the most potent weapon a mail server could utilize against spam!
The mail server could keep a database of known senders who entered the code correctly, and thereafter automatically accept their 'friendly' e-mail.
I forsee a potential abuses for this though. Annoying "spam bots" could learn to decipher the first automatic reply containing the code and then automatically send the spam, and contain the code which will allow the mail server to recieve the mail.
I would ask that if anyone knows how to install/administer the add on to qmail which performs this to please let me know! I recieve a tonne of spam, and becuase I get everything sent to the domain 'dmarien.com', I'll sometimes get upwards of 100/day.
Also, if anyone has a qmail server setup in this manner please let me know how satisfied they are with it's performance, and whether they get complaints -- and even if spam get's through -- i'd love to know.
Thanks!