Howdy,
Just thought I would let you know that we now have 4 of these Hybrid Electric Prius cars at work.
At first I was a sceptic of its fuel econemy vs speed and comfort.
All of which I can say I was wrong about, the car is most comfortable to drive, fuel econemy is fantastic and speed/power wise its just as nice as an equal sized petrol (or gas for you yanks) car.
Go for it.
w00dy
With this vast world of stupid stupid people, here comes more stupidity which leaves me in awe, this time in my own country.
All my mobile (or Cell as you yanks like to call them) numbers and home voice/data lines seem to be held by their 'copyright'
I think i speak for many of us when i say they can go and F*CK themselves. I don't give a royal rats a*se about what they this in any way and if they are stupid enough to even pursue this and some crazy lawyer and senile judge can stand behind this and back them what can I say? What a crazy world.
Our entire Laptop fleet are Acer machines, many with this fingerprint technology on them.
You cannot simply get into the bios/open the machine or anything of the like unfortunately. If for some reason the finger used to 'open' the machine is no longer available then it has to be sent back to Acer to get the machine working again. The data on the HD is also lost in this process.
Each laptop can store 5 seperate prints, the idea being that you could have an IT person put their print in as a master on each laptop.
This presents problems in a) Distance of IT person to said laptop b) The IT person leaves the company.
We have chosen to not implement this protection at all and have removed all the software from our users machines that will enable it as its more hassle than its worth in my opinion of practical experience with them.
Yes you are right you can record it, but from the information I read about this protection you will also copy the distorted audio. Its not the copying of the physical disk and digital data to your HD for encoding thats the problem. Its the spurious data they have injected into the music that makes mp3 encoders throw a wobbly when trying to compress them.
I read a long article about all this a month ago and can't find it to post, but it even come down to exactly your description and of holding a mic upto some speakers, sure you can record it, but its still got those signals in it which will still hinder compression on the now lower qaulity analog recording.
Remember macrovision VHS tapes coming in, same sort of thing. The tapes are the same, you can record them, but you record the macrovision along with what you actually want (the movie) and a crappy result. Of course its not a technical feat to remove this protection but now with the US's DMCA in place and countries like mine following suit like a good puppy (Australia) you can expect some law suits with new boxs/software/firmware to smooth this 'protected' audio cds out.
I can see the same thing happening with Macrovision, sure some of Mr & Mrs Joe Average cd players will have problems. The industry simply wont care as there isnt enough of them to create enough noise. Retailers will be happy as they will sell them a new CD player (same as when macrovision protected tapes were played in some peoples VCR's) and wont care. Its not right, its going to happen and its a real pain for your normal use.
When are they going to work out that when they do this they DO p*ss off the normal person who has been spending their money for years? When we buy CDs (and we do a lot) the first thing we do is mp3 them up and remix them the way we like them (taking out the crap) for the car and so we can play them all in random jukebox style to the main stereo in the house from the computer as I hate having to change Cds (I ran cables all through the house).
I know I will, as many others will, be searching for something that will 'fix' this protection so I can continue doing what we like. Im not a heavy pirate trading in thousands of mp3s, I simply want to be able to have a bit of flexibility in what I can do with music I have spent too much money on.
Thats exactly what Id read about as well (I wish i could remember the URL). The format of the cd isnt changed, but spurious information is put into the music. This way the protection is in place even when someone uses an analog recording method, not just a digital aspi rip of it. They were even explaining that if you held a mic upto the speakers and recorded it that way the mp3 encoder would still have trouble because of the signals.
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Howdy, Just thought I would let you know that we now have 4 of these Hybrid Electric Prius cars at work. At first I was a sceptic of its fuel econemy vs speed and comfort. All of which I can say I was wrong about, the car is most comfortable to drive, fuel econemy is fantastic and speed/power wise its just as nice as an equal sized petrol (or gas for you yanks) car. Go for it. w00dy
Well,
With this vast world of stupid stupid people, here comes more stupidity which leaves me in awe, this time in my own country.
All my mobile (or Cell as you yanks like to call them) numbers and home voice/data lines seem to be held by their 'copyright'
I think i speak for many of us when i say they can go and F*CK themselves. I don't give a royal rats a*se about what they this in any way and if they are stupid enough to even pursue this and some crazy lawyer and senile judge can stand behind this and back them what can I say? What a crazy world.
Go F*ck yourself Dr.Sonique and Jon Drummond!
Our entire Laptop fleet are Acer machines, many with this fingerprint technology on them.
You cannot simply get into the bios/open the machine or anything of the like unfortunately. If for some reason the finger used to 'open' the machine is no longer available then it has to be sent back to Acer to get the machine working again. The data on the HD is also lost in this process.
Each laptop can store 5 seperate prints, the idea being that you could have an IT person put their print in as a master on each laptop.
This presents problems in a) Distance of IT person to said laptop b) The IT person leaves the company.
We have chosen to not implement this protection at all and have removed all the software from our users machines that will enable it as its more hassle than its worth in my opinion of practical experience with them.
Yes you are right you can record it, but from the information I read about this protection you will also copy the distorted audio. Its not the copying of the physical disk and digital data to your HD for encoding thats the problem. Its the spurious data they have injected into the music that makes mp3 encoders throw a wobbly when trying to compress them.
I read a long article about all this a month ago and can't find it to post, but it even come down to exactly your description and of holding a mic upto some speakers, sure you can record it, but its still got those signals in it which will still hinder compression on the now lower qaulity analog recording.
Remember macrovision VHS tapes coming in, same sort of thing. The tapes are the same, you can record them, but you record the macrovision along with what you actually want (the movie) and a crappy result. Of course its not a technical feat to remove this protection but now with the US's DMCA in place and countries like mine following suit like a good puppy (Australia) you can expect some law suits with new boxs/software/firmware to smooth this 'protected' audio cds out.
I can see the same thing happening with Macrovision, sure some of Mr & Mrs Joe Average cd players will have problems. The industry simply wont care as there isnt enough of them to create enough noise. Retailers will be happy as they will sell them a new CD player (same as when macrovision protected tapes were played in some peoples VCR's) and wont care. Its not right, its going to happen and its a real pain for your normal use.
When are they going to work out that when they do this they DO p*ss off the normal person who has been spending their money for years? When we buy CDs (and we do a lot) the first thing we do is mp3 them up and remix them the way we like them (taking out the crap) for the car and so we can play them all in random jukebox style to the main stereo in the house from the computer as I hate having to change Cds (I ran cables all through the house).
I know I will, as many others will, be searching for something that will 'fix' this protection so I can continue doing what we like. Im not a heavy pirate trading in thousands of mp3s, I simply want to be able to have a bit of flexibility in what I can do with music I have spent too much money on.
Anyway, sorry to rant...
w00dy
Thats exactly what Id read about as well (I wish i could remember the URL). The format of the cd isnt changed, but spurious information is put into the music. This way the protection is in place even when someone uses an analog recording method, not just a digital aspi rip of it. They were even explaining that if you held a mic upto the speakers and recorded it that way the mp3 encoder would still have trouble because of the signals.