I was taking about the main Microsoft market: Personnal computers. Sorry for not being precise enough.
You are right, 90% is NOT good for parachutes... or the critical system that helped take down the power grid... Or Beagle 2... Or any system asking for a Real-Time Os for that matter. Imagine your car's OS running Ok, 90% of the time, rest of the time, it would put on break. not good. Yet those are the type of thing we see everyday with computer software.
If you want another exemple of 'good enough': I am not an English native speaker. I learned English as a Second Language (necessary when you're working with computers). I'm sure my comments are never grammaticaly correct, but It's still 'good Enough' for Slashdot.(I'm trying hard to make progress... honest!)
Only if Microsoft's product where perfect, would a monoculture prove OK. Unfortunatly for us, people are more interested in look and feature then actual stability. Think about it, what is the first thing you look for when you see a new software? Screenshots!
Add to that the running cost:(If I remember correctly..) several hundred thousands PER DAY... If you're aren't the gouvernement or Bill Gates, just forget it...
It's all a question of point of view (or relativity)
I still use my old Voodoo3 2000 AGP as my primary Video card. Why? It still works, and in ANY OS! no sense in paying 500$, since the only game I can't play is unreal Tournament 2003( and 2004)...
Yes, any 'Cheapo' could beat the crap out of it, but we don't all have money to trow out the windows...
Then again, with current market economics, it's 'better' to come up with a solution that 'mostly works' then one that is perfect.
This is exactly why Microsoft is the dominant force in computing: Their stuff 'Mostly work' and is available NOW, as with alternatives(Apple,Linux, BSD, etc) which 'works' but not necessarily with what you want to...
So it's marketably (is that a word??) 'Better' to come up with a 80-90% solution NOW than a 99-100% latter if you want to capture the market.(Unless we speak about critical real-time OS)
Think about it: that is why we are seeing the 'Outsourcing to India' Trend: they make good enough software to capture a market segment without costing too much...
If we want to compete with thoses forces we need to come up with better design method to come up with 'Great' software in the same time 'good enough' can be built... We all know how these 'good enough' solution are A PAIN to debug several versions later, but if you don't come up with SOMETHING you won't be able to capture the market...
I know it's a bit Offtopic but it's this 'cheap'+'good enough' attitude that gave Microsoft their market share in the first place... and the Monoculture we see today...
Thank you very much for reminding me that i'm actually sitting in front of my computer,in my stupid dorm room, on a Saturday night, Feburary the 14, and that the only thing I'm doing with my free time, right now, is reading Slashdot...*sigh*
Well, maybe I shouldn't have taken Computer Engineering as a University Degree...
I am in a Computer Engineering program and you should just see what kind of people we get....
I think the worse kind are those who never touched a computer prior to university(and yet they chose that field of engineering!!!)...
and those who came into this field 'because it pays' (at least it used to)
I know one guys who told me:
"I don't understand why anyone would use anything else than what is bundled with Windows (Outlook, IE, etc..)" and: "Linux is the worse thing I ever had to work with"
the best exemple of BSD code in Windows (all version I think) is the ftp.exe file... Just open it with notepad and search for:
"Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved."
And I think the TCP/IP stack is also based on it (they would be really stupid to do otherwise)... But I think this is all old news...and it's all very legal in case you didn't know
Small...right... i'll refer you to the text of the article:
Conclusion
We've shown that, using a typical test scenario -- Apache/WPT on an 8-way SMP IBM xSeries system -- the Apache server has better scalability and performance on the 2.6 kernel compared to the 2.4 kernel. On the same system under the same workload, the Apache server with 2.6.0-test5 kernel more effectively used system resources and served 5 times more Web pages than the 2.4.18 kernel did. This real data demonstrates that a variety of features and changes have helped the 2.6 kernel offer better scalability and performance and become more mature for enterprise-level applications.
Given that IBM is pushing for Linux desktops internally, the prospect of a Notes client port is more likely. On the other hand, IBM is now pushing new Java based groupware technologies that will naturally run on Linux. Who knows how it'll turn out.
They could have to employes test the software on linux and get free QA...
Just one departement... then another, and another...
I'm sure frustrated coworker are more inclinded to call the RIGHT person to fix the problem...
I also read it, and I get the impression That SCO thinks that:
1) because it's in AIX, it's UNIX-code and we own it 2) porting it to Linux makes Linux better and dilluded UNIX 3) it cannot be anything else's code because UNIX 'has 20 years of developpement' (not the exact words used) 4) IBM want to become Service-selling only and with Linux free, destroy anyone selling UNIX... (because of point 2)
Sound to me like a baby crying: "it can't be?! it's not fair, this was all mine, mine!!!!"
Let's just hope the court clarify all this FAST...
You know, i imagined the first post would be more like:
'Yeah! another Distro War... (insert name of distro) rules! I 0\/\/|/| y0u |-|4x0R'
as for witch init script you use... who care! as long as you know waht you are doing or there is good documentation (or a bit or both)
it's kind of a tradeoff: usability or power... usability comes with limits on what you can change...fine grain power comes with having full access, but having to do everything...
Ok, so i did drink a little tonight and i AM a bit drunk, but i'm still making sense.... am I?
And I sent this reply... linking to the parent poster and this slashdot article:
"As much as I appreciate your news service and respect your news reporting as professional work, I am disappointed in the last story i read:"Linux cyber-battle turns nasty". This text shows that Mister Stephen Evans did not completely verify his facts. The actual purpose of the virus is a back door.
If you want more information, and some useful comments on your this article, I should refer you to the http://slashdot.org refering of your article:
I'm pretty sure the same can be said of almost ANY 'fragile' material. In general, the material that does not deform was passed elastisity limit (ie: absord excess energy), will break pass that point. They are usually MORE resistant to pressure, but will shatter on shocks, Because a single point get to the breaking limit and the crack formed ripple through the structure.
Example: I'm sure we could easely place a car or truck on a couple of bottle of beer, yet the same bottles could break with a simple 2 meters (6 feet) drop.
Another exemple: That's why cars defrom in accidents: You WANT them to do that because they absord (part of) the energy of the impact instead of YOU. It's especially true in the case of the safety belt...
Ayone can comment on this? It's been AT LEAST 4 years since I did my materials classe...
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It could be VERY easily abused by advertisers but using 'bot that mimick the use behavior and click on the wrong link.
Thoses who do not study history are doomed to repeat it...
I'm a native french speaker and I can say that it's a pretty good translation...
they could easily find someone to decipher it.
Naah... Just fire-up Emacs
I was taking about the main Microsoft market: Personnal computers. Sorry for not being precise enough.
You are right, 90% is NOT good for parachutes... or the critical system that helped take down the power grid... Or Beagle 2... Or any system asking for a Real-Time Os for that matter. Imagine your car's OS running Ok, 90% of the time, rest of the time, it would put on break. not good. Yet those are the type of thing we see everyday with computer software.
If you want another exemple of 'good enough': I am not an English native speaker. I learned English as a Second Language (necessary when you're working with computers). I'm sure my comments are never grammaticaly correct, but It's still 'good Enough' for Slashdot.(I'm trying hard to make progress... honest!)
Only if Microsoft's product where perfect, would a monoculture prove OK. Unfortunatly for us, people are more interested in look and feature then actual stability. Think about it, what is the first thing you look for when you see a new software? Screenshots!
I think there is matter for reflexion here
Add to that the running cost:(If I remember correctly..) several hundred thousands PER DAY... If you're aren't the gouvernement or Bill Gates, just forget it...
its amazing to me that it is considered insightful to RTFA.
Might I remind you that you are talking about Slashdot...
It's all a question of point of view (or relativity)
I still use my old Voodoo3 2000 AGP as my primary Video card. Why? It still works, and in ANY OS! no sense in paying 500$, since the only game I can't play is unreal Tournament 2003( and 2004)...
Yes, any 'Cheapo' could beat the crap out of it, but we don't all have money to trow out the windows...
Ahhh, dammit... I posted offtopic AGAIN....
Then again, with current market economics, it's 'better' to come up with a solution that 'mostly works' then one that is perfect.
This is exactly why Microsoft is the dominant force in computing: Their stuff 'Mostly work' and is available NOW, as with alternatives(Apple,Linux, BSD, etc) which 'works' but not necessarily with what you want to...
So it's marketably (is that a word??) 'Better' to come up with a 80-90% solution NOW than a 99-100% latter if you want to capture the market.(Unless we speak about critical real-time OS)
Think about it: that is why we are seeing the 'Outsourcing to India' Trend: they make good enough software to capture a market segment without costing too much...
If we want to compete with thoses forces we need to come up with better design method to come up with 'Great' software in the same time 'good enough' can be built... We all know how these 'good enough' solution are A PAIN to debug several versions later, but if you don't come up with SOMETHING you won't be able to capture the market...
I know it's a bit Offtopic but it's this 'cheap'+'good enough' attitude that gave Microsoft their market share in the first place... and the Monoculture we see today...
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Thank you very much for reminding me that i'm actually sitting in front of my computer,in my stupid dorm room, on a Saturday night, Feburary the 14, and that the only thing I'm doing with my free time, right now, is reading Slashdot...*sigh*
Well, maybe I shouldn't have taken Computer Engineering as a University Degree...
At least there's lots of beer around here...
I am in a Computer Engineering program and you should just see what kind of people we get....
I think the worse kind are those who never touched a computer prior to university(and yet they chose that field of engineering!!!)...
and those who came into this field 'because it pays' (at least it used to)
I know one guys who told me:
"I don't understand why anyone would use anything else than what is bundled with Windows (Outlook, IE, etc..)"
and:
"Linux is the worse thing I ever had to work with"
How do you change an opinion like that?
The gouvernement wanted to kept french publications into local hands.... look where it got us...
But Quebecor is NOT the only player... they are simply the biggest... kinda like IBM in the IT world
the best exemple of BSD code in Windows (all version I think) is the ftp.exe file... Just open it with notepad and search for:
"Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved."
And I think the TCP/IP stack is also based on it (they would be really stupid to do otherwise)... But I think this is all old news...and it's all very legal in case you didn't know
We get our dupes with 11 months lag now.... Great... I knew I had this impression of Deja Vu.
Ha, well... it's still a great article. Might as well read it again...
Aside from a small performance boost
Small...right... i'll refer you to the text of the article:
Conclusion
We've shown that, using a typical test scenario -- Apache/WPT on an 8-way SMP IBM xSeries system -- the Apache server has better scalability and performance on the 2.6 kernel compared to the 2.4 kernel. On the same system under the same workload, the Apache server with 2.6.0-test5 kernel more effectively used system resources and served 5 times more Web pages than the 2.4.18 kernel did. This real data demonstrates that a variety of features and changes have helped the 2.6 kernel offer better scalability and performance and become more mature for enterprise-level applications.
Given that IBM is pushing for Linux desktops internally, the prospect of a Notes client port is more likely. On the other hand, IBM is now pushing new Java based groupware technologies that will naturally run on Linux. Who knows how it'll turn out.
They could have to employes test the software on linux and get free QA...
Just one departement... then another, and another...
I'm sure frustrated coworker are more inclinded to call the RIGHT person to fix the problem...
then again, I might be all wrong...
I only use IE for crap sites that require it. For everything else i use Mozilla ;)
There are some site with stuff to buy,
for everything else, there's Mozilla
I also read it, and I get the impression That SCO thinks that:
1) because it's in AIX, it's UNIX-code and we own it
2) porting it to Linux makes Linux better and dilluded UNIX
3) it cannot be anything else's code because UNIX 'has 20 years of developpement' (not the exact words used)
4) IBM want to become Service-selling only and with Linux free, destroy anyone selling UNIX... (because of point 2)
Sound to me like a baby crying: "it can't be?! it's not fair, this was all mine, mine!!!!"
Let's just hope the court clarify all this FAST...
You know, i imagined the first post would be more like:
...fine grain power comes with having full access, but having to do everything...
'Yeah! another Distro War... (insert name of distro) rules! I 0\/\/|/| y0u |-|4x0R'
as for witch init script you use... who care! as long as you know waht you are doing or there is good documentation (or a bit or both)
it's kind of a tradeoff: usability or power... usability comes with limits on what you can change
Ok, so i did drink a little tonight and i AM a bit drunk, but i'm still making sense.... am I?
And I sent this reply... linking to the parent poster and this slashdot article:
:"Linux cyber-battle turns nasty". This text shows that Mister Stephen Evans did not completely verify his facts. The actual purpose of the virus is a back door.
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"As much as I appreciate your news service and respect your news reporting as professional work, I am disappointed in the last story i read
If you want more information, and some useful comments on your this article, I should refer you to the http://slashdot.org refering of your article:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/05/081
and I personnaly think, this text give a good resume of all the ideas discussed:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=95603&thres
I am sure some of your staff could make a terrific story about the 'real' purpose behind this virus.
Sincerily yours,
'Real Name'
P.S.:Please diregard any spelling or grammtical error, for I am not an English speaker."
Try http://www.booble.com/!
At least you don't have to buy the french equivalent at 3/2 times the price like i do.
these stupid IANA* acronyms are getting out of hand.
Always found those funny... Took me a while to know what IANAL meant... Always reading it as I-ANAL...
I'm pretty sure the same can be said of almost ANY 'fragile' material. In general, the material that does not deform was passed elastisity limit (ie: absord excess energy), will break pass that point. They are usually MORE resistant to pressure, but will shatter on shocks, Because a single point get to the breaking limit and the crack formed ripple through the structure.
Example: I'm sure we could easely place a car or truck on a couple of bottle of beer, yet the same bottles could break with a simple 2 meters (6 feet) drop.
Another exemple: That's why cars defrom in accidents: You WANT them to do that because they absord (part of) the energy of the impact instead of YOU. It's especially true in the case of the safety belt...
Ayone can comment on this? It's been AT LEAST 4 years since I did my materials classe...