very well written... this should be a slashdot article on it's own... so many of us discover the truth that this post declares, and we fail to share it with others following in our steps...
there are constant arguments claiming "it's different this time... this is not your job/life/company, this one is a once in a lifetime..." and so on.
still, they end up the same: either you learn the lesson early enough and improve both your life and your job, or you learn too late and you waste both of them away...
if you haven't learned this yet, re-read the above post (and others like it) and think hard....
z
My joke was based on a Monty Python skit... but
never mind... obviously my point is still valid...
The "naysayers", even today, can only think
within what was/is tangible... Discovery and
invention are most ofen concerned with the
aspects of this world, that people are still not
able to see/touch... Thus the Americas...
The thing is, just like Columbus, and the
"naysayers" in his time, I, nor my oponents, can
claim with certianity, what is beyond what we can
see today. We can only claim it with faith...
Which is what Columbus did...
Z
P.S. The fact that "naysayers" sometimes decide
to label faith as ignorance or lack of intelectual
capability, is simply a way for them to compensate
for the lack of the type of faith they label
ignorant... This world has a desperate and
complete need for the tangible thinkers as well
as the ones who go beyond...
Yeah I know...
Just like they told Columbus, "You are going
to get eaten by giant sea dragons!!! And even
if you survive those (as if), the monsters at
the edge of the world will skin you alive!!!"
Am I glad he decided to ignore all that...
I say: Sail away...
Z
P.S. Please do not take this into an endless
drag about how the discovery of the Americas
was not such a great thing after all... That is
not my point
I use Vmware to run QuckBooks for my
business and Quicken for my personal stuff.
They are in two different VMs and it runs
great. No complaints. I run them on a 2x400 MHz
with 256 MB RAM. I run them with Win98 and
using suspend mode makes the startup and
shutdown time insignificant (relatively).
So when Quicken/QuickBooks decides to crash
the OS. I just restart the VM.
I also do backups on the Linux drive using SAMBA
and am able to do unified backup on the Linux
system only. If I wipe stuff out I reinstall vmware
win98 and Quicken/Quickbooks, and then use
the last backup files. Works great. It is also
a small and portable way to move to a new
system when I can afford one.
Z
Re:This is not the traditional embedded market
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Windows XP Embedded
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· Score: 1
At a bank in FL I drove up to an ATM
and I could see an OS/2 Warp desktop on
the screen. It was not a touchscreen ATM so
nothing to do with it... So get ready to
see more of those...
"Please enter your PIN:"
beep...buop...beap...biip "CONGRATULATIONS
THE FBI MAGIC LANTERN HAS IDENTIFIED
YOU AS A POTENTIAL WINNER!!! PLEASE WAIT
FOR ONE OF OUR FRIENDLY PERSONEL REPRESENTATIVES
TO GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU AT THE
CONVINIENCE OF YOUR CURRENT LOCATION..
GG8%HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH <- progress bar?
Estimated time to your arrest: 4h 32m 42s
Did you know that with Mcrsft Atmdows you
can say goodbye to the safety of both your personal and business information?
Ask the person(s) en route to your location
for more details...
I'm givin' ya all she's got kap'n!
Whoe'r glued this one together
was surely fooled by S*n marketing.
I may be able to salvage her, but
I can not promise anything. Do you
pe'pl have any C or PHP on yer planet?
Re:...continuing off-topic religious thread...
on
Geek Gift Ideas 2001
·
· Score: 1
Since you insist on misinformation and delusion
as the basis for this discussion I will make this my last
post on this topic. I thank you for the verbose responses and
I hope that we can restart this theme at another time. Hopefully
at that point, reason would have set in with you, and you would
be able to discern between discussions about the existence of a god
and discussions about the reality of the God of the bible.
Intertwining the two makes this debate impossible.
Thank you again
Since the facts I provide are immediately
labeled as myth, opinion and fiction I will
provide my responses for the sake of other
readers that may or may not attempt to follow
this thread.
The reality that millions of people agree on
something does not make that truth. But
you already knew that. You knew that it
only makes that idea popular but not true.
This is one of the reasons I believe the bible as the word of God, since it does tell
me that the most popular religious ideas in
the world will in most cases deny the reality
of God, the deity of Christ and the exclusivity
of the Bible as the only word of God.
The assumption about my salvation experience being at a "young and impressionable" age
reveals your desire to classify believers
as immature, childish and incapable of any intellectual comprehension or abstract thought.
With that in mind I will not take you comment
about the chronology of my belief as a
question, but simply as a weak assumption
about my intellectual capabilities.
Just to provide the reality about some of
your assumptions:
I grew up in a country with 40% muslim population
My next door neighbor and best friend was muslim
I was saved at 18 years of age
I was raised in a socialist school system dedicated to denying and censoring religion and personal freedom
I do not mention the above to give myself
any credibility. I only mention it in order
to correct the assumptions made about my
background.
Z
P.S. Please let me know if further biblical quotes are desirable in order to defend
my stand. Since you expressed your opinion about the irrelevance of the biblical writings
I did not think that biblical quotations would have assisted my response.
It is unfortunate that you find uniqueness in
out of context misinterpretation and open hatred of the Bible. However, you are not the
first neither are you the last, since your view is actually the norm, and not the exception.
My glee and awe is over the greatness of the
one and only God who is revealed in the
writings of the bible.
Your statement displays the straw-man style of
of debate I mentioned.
Since your rebuttal is simply a shift of the
burden of proof, I do not think that is is
a valid request for me to prove you wrong.
Just as I can be accused of simply accepting
the Bible as the word of God, you fall under
the opposite spectrum by simply denying it.
If "Propeller-head" statements as 'student of
classical languages' are intended to strengthen
you viewpoint, I find that as weak as me saying
"Because the bible says so"...
Why do I make the assumptions that you
judge fatal to my belief and argument? Because
I believe in and describe the God of christianity
as He is described in His word, namely the
bible. So I do label arguments as "straw-man", because they take the view I represent, and by using extra-biblical sources, make it into something that can truly not stand, thus taking the benefit of bringing it down.
All I defend, is that the christian God is only and exclusively described in the bible. Any other additional sources render a new, false, deity, which I can not and will not debate.
Finally, if you sincerely seek debate and reasoning, words like "blathering", and labels like wasteful and ignorant (God gave humans the ability of rational thought, don't continue to waste yours! Learn the rules of logic)
really do not any add any merit.
Z
From a Christian viewpoint, the understanding
and acceptance of God has to be completely and
exclusively (uh oh... not a P.C. term) based
on the Biblical witness and revelation. So if the existence and reality of the God of the Bible is to be discussed then the Bible would have to be referenced. I do not think that we have seen biblical references in this discussion.
That said, I think that we have to reference
the Bible when we are attempting to evaluate
the God of Christianity. So here are a few basics:
1.God created all things visible and invisible - (Colossians 1:15-17)
2.God is good and just, however not because His actions are deemed good or just by mortal men. He is good because He is God. (Job 38:4-39:40)
3.The purpose of all creation, including man, is to glorify God. (Deuteronomy 6:13)
Thus, deeds are good and just only because God has declared them as such, not because we have evaluated them as good and/or just. So as humanly unacceptable as it is to think in this manner, an event that we interpret as evil does not render God evil.
In closing, the mentioned "because the bible says so" argument is really a "because God declared it so". This is important because in order to deny or accept the being(God) that claims exclusive description in one book only(the Bible), we have to use the information from that book and completely avoid external data from other religions and cultures. Inclusion of the mentioned external data is simply a "straw man" technique at substituting fiction for fact and then proving it factually impossible.
After all that being said, I would like to admit that my writings and opinions are not the determining factor. It is the knowledge that Jesus Christ, the one and only son of God, already has of his own sheep(believers), and his capability to gather them to himself.
Or in Jesus' own words in John 10:24-27: The Jewish religious leaders surrounded him and said, "How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly." Jesus replied, "I told you and you do not believe. The deeds I do in my Father's name testify about me. But you refuse to believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
I think that real life will never get to that
point. Infinitely secure systems have infinitely
high cost. So every time a product is developed
for mass production/sale (ie reasonable cost
per item) the implementor will have to cut
corners. I am not implying that IBM and
others, deliberately produce faulty products.
It is just that they try to bring to market
the next best thing to perfect. And that is
always imperfection... which is inherently not
crack proof. my $0.02
Z
Slashdot Mirror
RTFA-o-logy?
very well written... this should be a slashdot article on it's own... so many of us discover the truth that this post declares, and we fail to share it with others following in our steps...
there are constant arguments claiming "it's different this time... this is not your job/life/company, this one is a once in a lifetime..." and so on.
still, they end up the same: either you learn the lesson early enough and improve both your life and your job, or you learn too late and you waste both of them away...
if you haven't learned this yet, re-read the above post (and others like it) and think hard.... z
or http://fuware.nanocrew.net.nyud.net:8090/pymusique
96 processors ought to be enough for anybody
My joke was based on a Monty Python skit... but
never mind... obviously my point is still valid...
The "naysayers", even today, can only think
within what was/is tangible... Discovery and
invention are most ofen concerned with the
aspects of this world, that people are still not
able to see/touch... Thus the Americas...
The thing is, just like Columbus, and the
"naysayers" in his time, I, nor my oponents, can
claim with certianity, what is beyond what we can
see today. We can only claim it with faith...
Which is what Columbus did...
Z
P.S. The fact that "naysayers" sometimes decide
to label faith as ignorance or lack of intelectual
capability, is simply a way for them to compensate
for the lack of the type of faith they label
ignorant... This world has a desperate and
complete need for the tangible thinkers as well
as the ones who go beyond...
Yeah I know...
Just like they told Columbus, "You are going
to get eaten by giant sea dragons!!! And even
if you survive those (as if), the monsters at
the edge of the world will skin you alive!!!"
Am I glad he decided to ignore all that...
I say: Sail away...
Z
P.S. Please do not take this into an endless
drag about how the discovery of the Americas
was not such a great thing after all... That is
not my point
I use Vmware to run QuckBooks for my
business and Quicken for my personal stuff.
They are in two different VMs and it runs
great. No complaints. I run them on a 2x400 MHz
with 256 MB RAM. I run them with Win98 and
using suspend mode makes the startup and
shutdown time insignificant (relatively).
So when Quicken/QuickBooks decides to crash
the OS. I just restart the VM.
I also do backups on the Linux drive using SAMBA
and am able to do unified backup on the Linux
system only. If I wipe stuff out I reinstall vmware
win98 and Quicken/Quickbooks, and then use
the last backup files. Works great. It is also
a small and portable way to move to a new
system when I can afford one.
Z
At a bank in FL I drove up to an ATM
and I could see an OS/2 Warp desktop on
the screen. It was not a touchscreen ATM so
nothing to do with it... So get ready to
see more of those...
"Please enter your PIN:"
beep...buop...beap...biip
"CONGRATULATIONS THE FBI MAGIC LANTERN HAS IDENTIFIED
YOU AS A POTENTIAL WINNER!!! PLEASE WAIT
FOR ONE OF OUR FRIENDLY PERSONEL REPRESENTATIVES
TO GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU AT THE
CONVINIENCE OF YOUR CURRENT LOCATION..
GG8%HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH <- progress bar?
Estimated time to your arrest: 4h 32m 42s
Did you know that with Mcrsft Atmdows you
can say goodbye to the safety of both your
personal and business information?
Ask the person(s) en route to your location
for more details...
I'm givin' ya all she's got kap'n!
Whoe'r glued this one together
was surely fooled by S*n marketing.
I may be able to salvage her, but
I can not promise anything. Do you
pe'pl have any C or PHP on yer planet?
Since you insist on misinformation and delusion
as the basis for this discussion I will make this my last
post on this topic. I thank you for the verbose responses and
I hope that we can restart this theme at another time. Hopefully
at that point, reason would have set in with you, and you would
be able to discern between discussions about the existence of a god
and discussions about the reality of the God of the bible.
Intertwining the two makes this debate impossible.
Thank you again
Z
labeled as myth, opinion and fiction I will
provide my responses for the sake of other
readers that may or may not attempt to follow
this thread.
The reality that millions of people agree on
something does not make that truth. But
you already knew that. You knew that it
only makes that idea popular but not true.
This is one of the reasons I believe the
bible as the word of God, since it does tell
me that the most popular religious ideas in
the world will in most cases deny the reality
of God, the deity of Christ and the exclusivity
of the Bible as the only word of God.
The assumption about my salvation experience
being at a "young and impressionable" age
reveals your desire to classify believers
as immature, childish and incapable of any
intellectual comprehension or abstract thought.
With that in mind I will not take you comment
about the chronology of my belief as a
question, but simply as a weak assumption
about my intellectual capabilities.
Just to provide the reality about some of
your assumptions:
I do not mention the above to give myself
any credibility. I only mention it in order
to correct the assumptions made about my
background.
Z
P.S. Please let me know if further biblical quotes are desirable in order to defend
my stand. Since you expressed your opinion about the irrelevance of the biblical writings
I did not think that biblical quotations would have assisted my response.
It is unfortunate that you find uniqueness in
out of context misinterpretation and open
hatred of the Bible. However, you are not the
first neither are you the last, since your
view is actually the norm, and not the exception.
My glee and awe is over the greatness of the
one and only God who is revealed in the
writings of the bible.
Your statement displays the straw-man style of
of debate I mentioned.
Z
Straw man argument: Straw man argument
Since your rebuttal is simply a shift of the
burden of proof, I do not think that is is
a valid request for me to prove you wrong.
Just as I can be accused of simply accepting
the Bible as the word of God, you fall under
the opposite spectrum by simply denying it.
If "Propeller-head" statements as 'student of
classical languages' are intended to strengthen
you viewpoint, I find that as weak as me saying
"Because the bible says so"...
Why do I make the assumptions that you
judge fatal to my belief and argument? Because
I believe in and describe the God of christianity
as He is described in His word, namely the
bible. So I do label arguments as "straw-man",
because they take the view I represent, and by
using extra-biblical sources, make it into
something that can truly not stand, thus taking
the benefit of bringing it down.
All I defend, is that the christian God is only
and exclusively described in the bible. Any other
additional sources render a new, false, deity,
which I can not and will not debate.
Finally, if you sincerely seek debate and
reasoning, words like "blathering", and labels
like wasteful and ignorant (God gave humans the
ability of rational thought, don't continue
to waste yours! Learn the rules of logic)
really do not any add any merit. Z
From a Christian viewpoint, the understanding
and acceptance of God has to be completely and
exclusively (uh oh... not a P.C. term) based
on the Biblical witness and revelation. So if the existence and reality of the God of the Bible is to be discussed then the Bible would have to be referenced. I do not think that we have seen biblical references in this discussion.
That said, I think that we have to reference
the Bible when we are attempting to evaluate
the God of Christianity. So here are a few basics:
1.God created all things visible and invisible - (Colossians 1:15-17)
2.God is good and just, however not because His actions are deemed good or just by mortal men. He is good because He is God. (Job 38:4-39:40)
3.The purpose of all creation, including man, is to glorify God. (Deuteronomy 6:13)
Thus, deeds are good and just only because God has declared them as such, not because we have evaluated them as good and/or just. So as humanly unacceptable as it is to think in this manner, an event that we interpret as evil does not render God evil.
In closing, the mentioned "because the bible says so" argument is really a "because God declared it so". This is important because in order to deny or accept the being(God) that claims exclusive description in one book only(the Bible), we have to use the information from that book and completely avoid external data from other religions and cultures. Inclusion of the mentioned external data is simply a "straw man" technique at substituting fiction for fact and then proving it factually impossible.
After all that being said, I would like to admit that my writings and opinions are not the determining factor. It is the knowledge that Jesus Christ, the one and only son of God, already has of his own sheep(believers), and his capability to gather them to himself.
Or in Jesus' own words in John 10:24-27: The Jewish religious leaders surrounded him and said, "How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly." Jesus replied, "I told you and you do not believe. The deeds I do in my Father's name testify about me. But you refuse to believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
Z
I think that real life will never get to that
point. Infinitely secure systems have infinitely
high cost. So every time a product is developed
for mass production/sale (ie reasonable cost
per item) the implementor will have to cut
corners. I am not implying that IBM and
others, deliberately produce faulty products.
It is just that they try to bring to market
the next best thing to perfect. And that is
always imperfection... which is inherently not
crack proof. my $0.02
Z
Now that is the best advice so far Z