You claimed installing Fedora was no harder than installing Windows. I believe that is not true. Hence my comments.
You believe wrong.
That's all I can say, really. There's a reason so many people continue to use MS Office, and it might not be what you think.
Yeah, OO.o can't import some files. And that would be enough for some people. Instead of using native format.
Don't get me wrong, i'd have nothing but good-will towards an actual free rival, but none of the products i've seen are at that level yet.
What you're describing windows as is gods gift.
Last time I checked XP, they were far from that too. Not really friendly, no HIG whatsoever (XP and Office 2003???? wtf????), virus prone, spyware prone. Start menu without any sense. (why the fuck does every software have to make his submenu, can't M$ just make some restrictions base on software type?) Control panels that mess up configuration to level of insanity (things can be done simpler you know). Ultra friendly network browser that never displays what I wuold like, only what I wouldn't like.) You obviously don't know how network neighborhood looks when you enter into 50-100 computer network - yeah, I like those quadzillion shares and zillion printers that windows automount)
Oh yes. Getting slower with time.
And most of all my dear dorothy. Why the fuck there's no simple way to stop desktop notifications? (don't offer registry key or tweakit, you were talking about grandma)
You said you use antivirus, ad-aware and firefox. Does typical grandma install these?? Or she just uses what system offers?
I don't know if you'll read but here's the answer:)
I use 3x22" monitors (:Ok, I'm spoiled:). Photoshop fits on maybe 1 and 1/2 maybe at best. While Gimp works acros all monitors (talking about Linux version). That's why everybody uses 1x22" and 1x15" monitor for PS. More would be a waste. You whine about covering toolbar, I whine about covering pictures:)
Personaly, I hate MDI approach. It sucks major. First time you'll be able to use some software across 3 monitors you'll know exactly why I hate PS interface and all the troubles that MDI brings.
Second major bug are toolbar windows. Instead of implementing simple icon, Adobe had to put whole text for name (and even use additional waste space as this wouldn't be enough). And as such you can combine at most 3 toolwindows in one. Otherwise it would take too much space. (Yes, I know you can stack them on top, but what annoyance this is. Having 2GB of RAM , but still... pictures were redrawing always when I pulled down any toolwindow, Unusable. Yes pictures I work on are bigger than 150MB)
In gimp my favourite layout is havint two full height toolbars. Left and Right. This is the only way to have layers full height and more visible on screen.
Gimp bugs: The only thing that I used to hate was lack of global shortcuts. Before 2.2 version you had to select picture and then press shortcut, now this bug is GONE, Gimp is passing shortcuts to last selected picture.
p.s. I just couldn't go back to Aplha channels as PS implements them (but first, let me admit I haven't tried 7 or CS). And yes, rotating brushes, roating brushes, rotating brushes
p.p.s. I don't work on prepress. (if I would, then Gimp wouldn't suit my needs anyway) My job is mostly drawing (using wacom) for my personal pleasure and websites
- Qt runs (with recompilation) on Linux/Unix, MacOS X and Windows (all versions) - GTK runs on Linux. There is a porting of the old GTK1.2 for Windows. A Porting for Mac OS X is under development (AFAIK)
where did you hear this nonsense. Gimp2 and others for Windows. Gimp relies on GTK2. Gnome parts are the ones not ported, not Gtk
Yeah, I said that too. I can even put it in a nicer form.
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Dear God!
Amanda [Tapping] will be absent. She and Teal'c were annoying last few seasons. Stargate wasn't so bad (it was in fact good) until those two were given bigger parts (Some episodes were horrible [or borring to death]: Teal'c fireman??? Amanda with little ghost in spaceship???).
Thanks for Amanda being pregnant (absent)
p.s. And please god (if you read/.), give her another pregancy right after this one.
p.p.s. Oh, yes, you can give Teal'c one too (even though he's big'n'black).
M$ is something I won't stop using. Mostly because of how much of $ I already spent on their products. It's not like I would appreciate them, more like I'm forced to use them. Not even a single software did its job like it should. Maybe that's a difference when you own a company and you have to buy all software that you use.
p.s. It was talk about laptop. Not every computer. I have 12 (2 apple) of them + notebook. You wouldn't believe how expensive software can be for such little ammount of computers. That's why I think that I earned my privilege to write M$ (take in question that I'm mostly one person company)
Face it people, as much as you may hate their business practices, MS makes some very good products
Did I miss some product or what? For now they all sucked
I really wonder how many people flame "M$" online using IE on a computer running Windows XP
Answer is simple:) 1. All users that are not satisfied 2. All users forced to use them at job 3. All ITs that have seen too much of broken things and they are pissed off. 4. Me. When making some tasks at customers that last more time and I'm too lazy to take out my notebook.
Not really. Whole talk here is about DE consistancy.
OO.o uses its own widget set. Except that in Windows OO.o uses M$ API in *X it uses X11. Now OO.o widget sets are taking its ground on underlaying DE insted of X11.
XP laptop??? Been there, never again. And "never" is a definitive term in this case.
p.s. if you were meaning M$ Office. Yeah right. Just look at the consistancy of XP and Office 2003. It looks like mad cows piloting the space shuttle under water. No consistancy at all.
what's more bothering is that you'll have to wait at home for two things now. Your turn for bathroom use and now wait in line before personal home phonebooth to make your phone sex call.
p.s. If phonebooth won't be equiped with shaded glass, then those bastards in line will be watching phone sex for free (it will be like a collect call, now people will just stand in line and won't make a call).
Giving something away doesn't mean you don't mak e money out of it. As for the last one? I doubt it. High percentage of net will still be existing without any new services .
"I think Microsoft is getting a little nervous," Ross said. "They aren't sleeping anymore. They're talking about us on their Weblog and have started to contact the press about us."
Before you doubt you should at least read the article. There's been a lot more work done on IE in time of FF than before. Read M$ blogs and interviews, you'll notice FF mentioned a lot. If that's not nervous then I don't know what it is.
And now listen to your words. Don't you think that gaining so much in such short time is impressive? IE had boost when browser wars werre active because it was included with OS. And its growth wasn't so much bigger than FF even if you count this advantage.
Nothing special about that. Read article and you'll see that M$ wanted to show that their search now fully operates with other browsers. They used Oprea too, but as it was said, Opera wasn't showing some terrible success
Correct. And my best guess is that almost no one read damn article.
There's a talk about creating a plug'n'play system that would enable offices to perform their job. Mostly talking about best solution to solve migration to new environment and new solutions
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What I can say to your comment is...
Oh, god. Some people really have too much time.
You claimed installing Fedora was no harder than installing Windows. I believe that is not true. Hence my comments.
You believe wrong.
That's all I can say, really. There's a reason so many people continue to use MS Office, and it might not be what you think.
Yeah, OO.o can't import some files. And that would be enough for some people. Instead of using native format.
Don't get me wrong, i'd have nothing but good-will towards an actual free rival, but none of the products i've seen are at that level yet.
What you're describing windows as is gods gift.
Last time I checked XP, they were far from that too.
Not really friendly,
no HIG whatsoever (XP and Office 2003???? wtf????),
virus prone,
spyware prone.
Start menu without any sense. (why the fuck does every software have to make his submenu, can't M$ just make some restrictions base on software type?)
Control panels that mess up configuration to level of insanity (things can be done simpler you know).
Ultra friendly network browser that never displays what I wuold like, only what I wouldn't like.) You obviously don't know how network neighborhood looks when you enter into 50-100 computer network - yeah, I like those quadzillion shares and zillion printers that windows automount)
Oh yes. Getting slower with time.
And most of all my dear dorothy. Why the fuck there's no simple way to stop desktop notifications? (don't offer registry key or tweakit, you were talking about grandma)
You said you use antivirus, ad-aware and firefox. Does typical grandma install these?? Or she just uses what system offers?
p.s. I bet you buy software you use:)
I don't know if you'll read but here's the answer:)
:)
I use 3x22" monitors (:Ok, I'm spoiled:). Photoshop fits on maybe 1 and 1/2 maybe at best. While Gimp works acros all monitors (talking about Linux version). That's why everybody uses 1x22" and 1x15" monitor for PS. More would be a waste. You whine about covering toolbar, I whine about covering pictures
Personaly, I hate MDI approach. It sucks major. First time you'll be able to use some software across 3 monitors you'll know exactly why I hate PS interface and all the troubles that MDI brings.
Second major bug are toolbar windows. Instead of implementing simple icon, Adobe had to put whole text for name (and even use additional waste space as this wouldn't be enough). And as such you can combine at most 3 toolwindows in one. Otherwise it would take too much space. (Yes, I know you can stack them on top, but what annoyance this is. Having 2GB of RAM , but still... pictures were redrawing always when I pulled down any toolwindow, Unusable. Yes pictures I work on are bigger than 150MB)
In gimp my favourite layout is havint two full height toolbars. Left and Right. This is the only way to have layers full height and more visible on screen.
Gimp bugs:
The only thing that I used to hate was lack of global shortcuts. Before 2.2 version you had to select picture and then press shortcut, now this bug is GONE, Gimp is passing shortcuts to last selected picture.
p.s. I just couldn't go back to Aplha channels as PS implements them (but first, let me admit I haven't tried 7 or CS). And yes, rotating brushes, roating brushes, rotating brushes
p.p.s. I don't work on prepress. (if I would, then Gimp wouldn't suit my needs anyway) My job is mostly drawing (using wacom) for my personal pleasure and websites
I like Gimp just as it is. Do you need screenshot of it???
I wouln't go back to PShop interface.
- Qt runs (with recompilation) on Linux/Unix, MacOS X and Windows (all versions)
- GTK runs on Linux. There is a porting of the old GTK1.2 for Windows. A Porting for Mac OS X is under development (AFAIK)
where did you hear this nonsense. Gimp2 and others for Windows. Gimp relies on GTK2. Gnome parts are the ones not ported, not Gtk
Not only that, it's my birthday too.
God, I love when meteors crash my birthday party
Nah, that`s just a IBMs conspiracy against monitor makers. (those who make monitors with two VGA connectors)
Yeah, I said that too. I can even put it in a nicer form.
/.), give her another pregancy right after this one.
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Dear God!
Amanda [Tapping] will be absent. She and Teal'c were annoying last few seasons. Stargate wasn't so bad (it was in fact good) until those two were given bigger parts (Some episodes were horrible [or borring to death]: Teal'c fireman??? Amanda with little ghost in spaceship???).
Thanks for Amanda being pregnant (absent)
p.s. And please god (if you read
p.p.s. Oh, yes, you can give Teal'c one too (even though he's big'n'black).
Yeah, but if you look at title that says "Ring Up". That's even more ringing:)
p.s. Does anyone know how much can one hour of ringing bring???
...and you get +5 Insightful
??? When?
M$ is something I won't stop using. Mostly because of how much of $ I already spent on their products. It's not like I would appreciate them, more like I'm forced to use them. Not even a single software did its job like it should. Maybe that's a difference when you own a company and you have to buy all software that you use.
p.s. It was talk about laptop. Not every computer. I have 12 (2 apple) of them + notebook. You wouldn't believe how expensive software can be for such little ammount of computers. That's why I think that I earned my privilege to write M$ (take in question that I'm mostly one person company)
Face it people, as much as you may hate their business practices, MS makes some very good products
Did I miss some product or what? For now they all sucked
I really wonder how many people flame "M$" online using IE on a computer running Windows XP
Answer is simple:)
1. All users that are not satisfied
2. All users forced to use them at job
3. All ITs that have seen too much of broken things and they are pissed off.
4. Me. When making some tasks at customers that last more time and I'm too lazy to take out my notebook.
Not really. Whole talk here is about DE consistancy.
OO.o uses its own widget set. Except that in Windows OO.o uses M$ API in *X it uses X11. Now OO.o widget sets are taking its ground on underlaying DE insted of X11.
XP laptop??? Been there, never again. And "never" is a definitive term in this case.
p.s. if you were meaning M$ Office. Yeah right. Just look at the consistancy of XP and Office 2003. It looks like mad cows piloting the space shuttle under water. No consistancy at all.
Not really,
what's more bothering is that you'll have to wait at home for two things now. Your turn for bathroom use and now wait in line before personal home phonebooth to make your phone sex call.
p.s. If phonebooth won't be equiped with shaded glass, then those bastards in line will be watching phone sex for free (it will be like a collect call, now people will just stand in line and won't make a call).
Giving something away doesn't mean you don't mak e money out of it. As for the last one? I doubt it. High percentage of net will still be existing without any new services .
Yeah, but without controling window you can't control interior that people see inside (which services on which servers).
Backend is north nothing if no one uses it.
"I think Microsoft is getting a little nervous," Ross said. "They aren't sleeping anymore. They're talking about us on their Weblog and have started to contact the press about us."
Before you doubt you should at least read the article. There's been a lot more work done on IE in time of FF than before. Read M$ blogs and interviews, you'll notice FF mentioned a lot. If that's not nervous then I don't know what it is.
And now listen to your words. Don't you think that gaining so much in such short time is impressive? IE had boost when browser wars werre active because it was included with OS. And its growth wasn't so much bigger than FF even if you count this advantage.
Nothing special about that. Read article and you'll see that M$ wanted to show that their search now fully operates with other browsers. They used Oprea too, but as it was said, Opera wasn't showing some terrible success
Microsoft is probably getting nervous
linux:)
btw. I own two OSX machines and I hate them
No, that would be Al Gore. He would probably say that inventing LSB was next project after he inventing internet
Sorry, Apple session expired. I was linking to G5 Powermacs (price is starting at 1499$)
??? Yeah, right:) Can you explain your logic to me????
a spx/desktops?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs& ;/
A ppleStore.woa/72104/wo/ke7qnsOEPJJN38gG9kM1yHG8Fs7 /0.0.11.1.0.6.21.1.2.1.2.0.0.1.0/
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/compare.
vs.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/
btw. Windows and LCD monitor are included with Dell
read the article. It's not even near about auto-updating
Great, and the cost was????
Correct. And my best guess is that almost no one read damn article.
There's a talk about creating a plug'n'play system that would enable offices to perform their job. Mostly talking about best solution to solve migration to new environment and new solutions
Problem should not be solved like complete migration at once.
Theres a lot of solutions, but every company also has a lot of history