Inclusion is one thing, hard core implementation is another. SELinux is not click RPM and install.
SELinux is a set of policies that define how your system is acting basing on actual happenings. To put it simply, take it as system account ACL-s (maybe I put it wrong but that was the only way to describe it as simple thing).
One month most probably isn't enough time to implement more than trivial policies that actualy take your system trough correct workout. Expect FC3 to be the first one with correct settings. FC2 can be but probably settings will depend on you
Nothing, they don't work and it's not Fedora bug it's new kernel feature. As from 2.6.5 no kernel will work with them. Take Fedora as the first distro that actualy takes this step.
At least until NVidia finally resolves 4KSTACKS bug. Up to 2.6.5 kernels had this as feature. Now it's gone, as in bye bye.
OSX: yes, I agree stability: ????? bwaaahaahahahaha
C'mon last stable was 4.11. 5 never was finished when they already released 6, (yes I agree OSX was the reason) and 6 is not even near to be stable (don't know on OSX though)
Putting money into GUI simplification... waste Yes, that's what they think. But that and usability with more features (and price) is the sole reason why InDesign is taking Quarks share in such ammount.
As far as Scribus. I use it, SVG import and texts are more than enough for my simple use.
Well, Gimp does walk over Photoshop. I've got few Adobe Collections (from my prior DTP use), but I still use Gimp (not Photoshop), because for RGB and web Gimp just rocks, btw. I'm always having 3 monitors on every computer.
btw. If you would ever consider going to gimp-devel and checking out what's comming. 2.0 was UI renovation, 2.2 is color management renovation (GEGL), which will finally include options to have CMYK and other color models. Gegl will include options for ICC profiling (these were just simple hacks until now), nested layers etc. And if the announcement on devel site is correct Gimp 2.2 should be out this summer
So, to made my point: The longer the path to where Photoshop is Gimp walks, the more it walks over Photoshop (most of the reason for it will be price).
But the fact that parent made (parent never said Quark sucks, and I don't either), UI sucks still remains.
If software has long learning curve, then it has bad UI, simple and well made GUI leads user to faster learning curve. Well Quark is far from that example.
Obviously you don't know shit about what you talk about.
Do you even know what is the real difference between postscript an eps?? In common basics one line and preview (besides the fact that encapsulated eps is limited to one page).
EPS allows you to have preview which postscript doesn't. That's the most of it.
Steps to make handmade eps 1. Print single page in ascii postcript 2. Open in simple ascii editor 3. Paste %!PS-Adobe-X.0 EPSF-X.0 as the first line 4. Save 5. ???Profit
Now even if your program doesn't support importing ps (but does eps), you can simply import this new file. Yes, preview will be unavailable in quark and similiar software.
I predicted that when first Longhorn rummors started. (i think about 2 years ago)
At that time I predicted that instead of Longhorn there will be patched XP SE (ok, this one is reloaded)
And while M$ still won't be able to keep schedule, Longhorn will be semi finished (when comparing with M$ promises), The most vital functions will be moved to something called Longhorn SE, which will be released instead of Blackcomb (this one will be dalyed for the reason of not being able to keep promises). When Blackcomb will be released there will be missing some key features.
Ok, I'm not a prophet I know. It's just M$ practice of doing bussines troughout the M$ history, making promises and not keeping them
p.s. That time I was moded as troll, I bet all my karma (money is expensive,/. karma is not) I will be moded as troll again
But Google OS meter will be still showing 1% of linux users, it was showing the same for past few years. So what's a billion of users more or less. Stable figures are more important
On the other hand one could ask: "What will OSX users say now, until now they've been bashing that OSX is the most widely deployed *X, oh yeah, it has tranlucency"
If I remember correctly Raymond was trying to use shared printer.
Don't know about others, but I for sure know that it's not a minute under Fedora.
Applications - System tools - Printing pick a Windows Network and choose printer.
Sharing of every printer is the default, Samba by default provides [Printers] as default, which makes every printer on Linux as shared. Same with Linux network.
Eric Raymond has picked a damn wrong case, I for sure know that Mandrake and Suse are doing just as good as Fedora in that topic.
Actualy, I hope they will. Maybe someone would release same feature for users. Of course, software compatible monitors required (you know, those with machine gun pointed at user)
yeah, that was wrong set up (read as missing definitons), in fc2t2 there are three possible root users as selinux defines (try logging to terminal console and you'll know what I mean) and the profile that you get when "su -" is really f*cked up and isn't allowed almost anything, far from being root.
But if you care you can still set some selinux policy without problem, there is a lot of info on that topic on Fedora site. Personally I just can't wait for them to release. selinux was one thing I always needed but never had time to test.
But when someone throws you cake in the face,... well it isn't hard to test it if it is good or not, and then run to the bakery which you haven't had time until now just because you haven't know if it is good or not.
It's by far the slowest distro I've ever seen in 6 years of Linux use
Completely different point of view, far by fastest. And didn't fix anything.
Additionally, each release is only supported for around 7-9 months
What stops you then??? Is kernel not gonna be compatible or what?? I guess you know a little more than the rest of us.
btw. upgrade to newer version works, even rawhide repository works. But hell, I always build everything extra from sources, except workstation setups.
Serious setting as you say in my point of view
1. Single update repository for all servers that is completely controlled by you. (never trust anybody or anything, check everything) 2. Avoid using default services and try to hide the ones that you run with fake names (it is considered as good avoiding of possible known bugs) 3. Always compile from sources to ensure your serious setting to be run as serious as possible (like in samba av support, proxy av support, in my case pure-ftpd kernel-chroot support....) 4. Almost never use the default servers. Mostly they are far from the best (you know,... some have little licensing problems, in my case qmail, that little trouble with source distribution) 5. You'll have to update some intrusion detectors and some other various usefull tools someday (if you have update repository set up in a safe manner then this could be included in basic update, without troubling you) 6. Always provide your kernels because you are the one who knows your basic hardware setup best
To be honest, from any dostro I set up as server, there is very little default left at the end. so in the end I really shouldn't care which one I use, just that it hasn't got some serious bugs when starting.
And one more thing, my little setting has one deployment center for over 50-60 servers (deployed along the country - not all Fedora mostly RH 8 and 9 with even 2x7.2, yep;) one with 2.6kernel although I know it is not supported) with single testing and compiling and auto updating, one for 150 workstations just the same
I hope that my setting isn't too childish for you
Let me guess, Gentoo, Slack or BSD??? In that order.
I run it without flaws. And I must say the most impressive distro ever. At least from Gnome user view point.
I can hardly wait FC2. SELinux, Gnome2.6, Kernel2.6....:):):)
Even beta2 runs almost perfectly without SELinux, with SELinux there are unfinished policy settings and unwanted restrictions which might cause some problems, so it's not yet for production
Gnome does it is just bass ackwards to the way 95%
(:or in my point of view, 95% does it is just bass ackwards to the way of Gnome:)
If you ask me, I like that order much more than the old one, it's momre natural to have the confirmation as left down, then somewhere in the middle, just look at how dumb OK, Cancel, Apply, Help order is (this is layout of printer properties in windows)
I've always hated Macs (and being forced to use them for my job my hatred was only getting stronger), but one thing always impressed me: Completely dumbed down Finder, but it always does everything I need and always less actions than anywhere else
OSX finder has gone seriously bad, comparing to OS9, way too complex and not even a bit visualy appealing as old one
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There are also no texts out there on how to use SE-Linux
??? fedora.redhat.com has links to various books and howto-s. Just look under the question What is SELinux
Yeah, this is a simple matter of lacking time.
Inclusion is one thing, hard core implementation is another. SELinux is not click RPM and install.
SELinux is a set of policies that define how your system is acting basing on actual happenings. To put it simply, take it as system account ACL-s (maybe I put it wrong but that was the only way to describe it as simple thing).
One month most probably isn't enough time to implement more than trivial policies that actualy take your system trough correct workout. Expect FC3 to be the first one with correct settings. FC2 can be but probably settings will depend on you
wrong, this was solution for every distro until now.
Read my post below or even better, read fedora news.
Nothing, they don't work and it's not Fedora bug it's new kernel feature. As from 2.6.5 no kernel will work with them. Take Fedora as the first distro that actualy takes this step.
At least until NVidia finally resolves 4KSTACKS bug. Up to 2.6.5 kernels had this as feature. Now it's gone, as in bye bye.
NVidia please fix this bug, I have FC2 to install
OSX: yes, I agree
stability: ????? bwaaahaahahahaha
C'mon last stable was 4.11. 5 never was finished when they already released 6, (yes I agree OSX was the reason) and 6 is not even near to be stable (don't know on OSX though)
Putting money into GUI simplification... waste
Yes, that's what they think. But that and usability with more features (and price) is the sole reason why InDesign is taking Quarks share in such ammount.
As far as Scribus. I use it, SVG import and texts are more than enough for my simple use.
Well, Gimp does walk over Photoshop. I've got few Adobe Collections (from my prior DTP use), but I still use Gimp (not Photoshop), because for RGB and web Gimp just rocks, btw. I'm always having 3 monitors on every computer.
btw. If you would ever consider going to gimp-devel and checking out what's comming. 2.0 was UI renovation, 2.2 is color management renovation (GEGL), which will finally include options to have CMYK and other color models. Gegl will include options for ICC profiling (these were just simple hacks until now), nested layers etc. And if the announcement on devel site is correct Gimp 2.2 should be out this summer
So, to made my point: The longer the path to where Photoshop is Gimp walks, the more it walks over Photoshop (most of the reason for it will be price).
But the fact that parent made (parent never said Quark sucks, and I don't either), UI sucks still remains.
If software has long learning curve, then it has bad UI, simple and well made GUI leads user to faster learning curve. Well Quark is far from that example.
Obviously you don't know shit about what you talk about.
Do you even know what is the real difference between postscript an eps?? In common basics one line and preview (besides the fact that encapsulated eps is limited to one page).
EPS allows you to have preview which postscript doesn't. That's the most of it.
Steps to make handmade eps
1. Print single page in ascii postcript
2. Open in simple ascii editor
3. Paste %!PS-Adobe-X.0 EPSF-X.0 as the first line
4. Save
5. ???Profit
Now even if your program doesn't support importing ps (but does eps), you can simply import this new file. Yes, preview will be unavailable in quark and similiar software.
what about JPEG2000 (if I look at the name they are probably a bit late)
Anyone knows about JEPG2000???
No, your watch is not broken.
It was just a fool (Fred Langa) that missed his day for 19 days
I predicted that when first Longhorn rummors started. (i think about 2 years ago)
/. karma is not) I will be moded as troll again
At that time I predicted that instead of Longhorn there will be patched XP SE (ok, this one is reloaded)
And while M$ still won't be able to keep schedule, Longhorn will be semi finished (when comparing with M$ promises), The most vital functions will be moved to something called Longhorn SE, which will be released instead of Blackcomb (this one will be dalyed for the reason of not being able to keep promises). When Blackcomb will be released there will be missing some key features.
Ok, I'm not a prophet I know. It's just M$ practice of doing bussines troughout the M$ history, making promises and not keeping them
p.s. That time I was moded as troll, I bet all my karma (money is expensive,
But Google OS meter will be still showing 1% of linux users, it was showing the same for past few years. So what's a billion of users more or less. Stable figures are more important
On the other hand one could ask: "What will OSX users say now, until now they've been bashing that OSX is the most widely deployed *X, oh yeah, it has tranlucency"
If I remember correctly Raymond was trying to use shared printer.
Don't know about others, but I for sure know that it's not a minute under Fedora.
Applications - System tools - Printing
pick a Windows Network and choose printer.
Sharing of every printer is the default, Samba by default provides [Printers] as default, which makes every printer on Linux as shared. Same with Linux network.
Eric Raymond has picked a damn wrong case, I for sure know that Mandrake and Suse are doing just as good as Fedora in that topic.
Well, it complies to what author has said, but then again, he's it's creator
But then again, BBEdit looks like shit to most of other free software, so I really wouldn't take it seriously
Actualy, I hope they will. Maybe someone would release same feature for users. Of course, software compatible monitors required (you know, those with machine gun pointed at user)
yeah, that was wrong set up (read as missing definitons), in fc2t2 there are three possible root users as selinux defines (try logging to terminal console and you'll know what I mean) and the profile that you get when "su -" is really f*cked up and isn't allowed almost anything, far from being root.
But if you care you can still set some selinux policy without problem, there is a lot of info on that topic on Fedora site. Personally I just can't wait for them to release. selinux was one thing I always needed but never had time to test.
But when someone throws you cake in the face,... well it isn't hard to test it if it is good or not, and then run to the bakery which you haven't had time until now just because you haven't know if it is good or not.
It's by far the slowest distro I've ever seen in 6 years of Linux use
;) one with 2.6kernel although I know it is not supported) with single testing and compiling and auto updating, one for 150 workstations just the same
Completely different point of view, far by fastest. And didn't fix anything.
Additionally, each release is only supported for around 7-9 months
What stops you then??? Is kernel not gonna be compatible or what?? I guess you know a little more than the rest of us.
btw. upgrade to newer version works, even rawhide repository works. But hell, I always build everything extra from sources, except workstation setups.
Serious setting as you say in my point of view
1. Single update repository for all servers that is completely controlled by you. (never trust anybody or anything, check everything)
2. Avoid using default services and try to hide the ones that you run with fake names (it is considered as good avoiding of possible known bugs)
3. Always compile from sources to ensure your serious setting to be run as serious as possible (like in samba av support, proxy av support, in my case pure-ftpd kernel-chroot support....)
4. Almost never use the default servers. Mostly they are far from the best (you know,... some have little licensing problems, in my case qmail, that little trouble with source distribution)
5. You'll have to update some intrusion detectors and some other various usefull tools someday (if you have update repository set up in a safe manner then this could be included in basic update, without troubling you)
6. Always provide your kernels because you are the one who knows your basic hardware setup best
To be honest, from any dostro I set up as server, there is very little default left at the end. so in the end I really shouldn't care which one I use, just that it hasn't got some serious bugs when starting.
And one more thing, my little setting has one deployment center for over 50-60 servers (deployed along the country - not all Fedora mostly RH 8 and 9 with even 2x7.2, yep
I hope that my setting isn't too childish for you
Let me guess, Gentoo, Slack or BSD??? In that order.
Yes it has. It's just like it was when setting firewall during install.
Under ports there is selection box: with or without
but if you already have it installed there is a howto on fedoraforums. howto disable selinux
??? What's wrong with Fedora?
:):):)
I run it without flaws. And I must say the most impressive distro ever. At least from Gnome user view point.
I can hardly wait FC2. SELinux, Gnome2.6, Kernel2.6....
Even beta2 runs almost perfectly without SELinux, with SELinux there are unfinished policy settings and unwanted restrictions which might cause some problems, so it's not yet for production
Linux instructions
1. Plug in camera
2. Linux does nothing
3. Right click desktop - Drives - Camera. Whop, camera disk is on desktop
Mine is easier
or in my case,... Stop using them after a short while
Gnome does it is just bass ackwards to the way 95%
(:or in my point of view, 95% does it is just bass ackwards to the way of Gnome:)
If you ask me, I like that order much more than the old one, it's momre natural to have the confirmation as left down, then somewhere in the middle, just look at how dumb OK, Cancel, Apply, Help order is (this is layout of printer properties in windows)
My thoughts exactly.
I've always hated Macs (and being forced to use them for my job my hatred was only getting stronger), but one thing always impressed me: Completely dumbed down Finder, but it always does everything I need and always less actions than anywhere else
OSX finder has gone seriously bad, comparing to OS9, way too complex and not even a bit visualy appealing as old one
No wonder, Apple was really trademark of Adam and Eve, Apple just copied it
It wouldn't matter if M$ would patent it.
This patent raises one question only: Inventors, Thieves or Fakers?
Same case was with M$ patenting virtual desktops and along providing sketches of Gnome and KDE (every patent specifies Inventors???).