While you are right, I would say that it would be nice to have some unity in it all. There are different brands of cars for example. They all work with different technology under the hood, have different specs, etc. However, anyone with a driver's license can sit behind the wheel, start it and drive it away. You can buy stuff that goes into the lighter socket (?) and the radio-bay or is fixed in the backseat.
Linux distributions should have something like that. Use just one package manager, just one bootup script system. In fact, you could even have different user interfaces, but installing/configuring them should be uniform.
Of course not. You only need to get rid of the stigma of 'Linux is text-only' and 'Linux is hard'. Windows is just as sucky as any other OS. They all have their caveats, they all can do others cannot. People are used to the squirks and crashes of Windows, not to its ease-of-use.
I use Linux at home and Windows (for Simatic S7) and Linux at work. Whenever I use Windows, I get fed up with its quirks, because I am used to Linux's quirks. Same goes for a Windows user that switches to Linux (in fact, I have an example of a misbehaving xmms. My friend (Windows user) could not fix it, while it was just a simple menu setting, which you could find when you actually looked for it and knew some English. But, because my friend only knew WinAmp and its quirks, he looked in the wrong place).
Just get rid of the stigma. I actually had the question if Linux had 'a mousepointer to click on buttons' recently. He still thought Linux was a text-only OS.
just fire up an old computer that runs an old version of WP, open the files, export them to ASCII and you at least have all the text. Perhaps it might be possible to export them to some richer format and also export the formatting/pictures.
Well, what I understand is that such machines exist already. Terabit switches do exist and are used as well. They connect several highspeed (gbit) lines to eachother and route everything accordingly.
This record is not about high speed on short distances (as used in terabit switches) but about long distance sustained rates. It is so to speak the 'head of the research'. More useful systems will emerge from technologies used here.
I know my hard drive doesn't go that fast. I don't even think my RAM is that fast.
They are testing a network, not harddrives or RAM (as said in other posts as well). Consider the incredible amount of data generated by big clusters or machines used at CERN for example. You generate the data in Switzerland, and move it to your friendly colleague in the USA, where his supercomputer will render some nice images from it. And, I am not a supercomputer-guru or anything (haven't even seen one for that matter), but I can tell you, they are nothing like your PC at home.
And that is only one usage of it. Consider the internet connection between Amsterdam and New York. That are a lot of connections together, all in one stream. If that could be a 101Gbit/s line, it will make a lot of connections faster, think of real-time video(phone) streams, normal phone connections, etc.
Well, that is what they said about compilers too, about 30 years ago. "No compiler can ever generate better code than assembler." And see where we stand now; almost no-one that writes (complex) code in assembler anymore. MDA has a future but I think it will take a long time until it really catches on and is used mainstream. But you cannot ignore it.
People may be dumb, but they are also annoyed by the popups, spyware, crashes, viruses, etc, that come with both IE and OE. When such people then start complaining to people like us (who do have a clue on OSs, programs, and so forth), we will 'fix' their problem by installing Firefox or the entire Mozilla suite. Remember that all 'dumb' people have 'computerfriends', the guy next door, a cousin, whatever. So, FF might not be a direct threat, but it is a threat. In my direct surroundings, more and more Mozilla installations are used, just because I told them to do so, to get rid of the popupvirusspycrap.
The link you followed to create a Gmail account has already been used to create an account for sexellent@gmail.com. Now, its account creating powers are all gone. To create another Gmail account, you'll need a shiny new account creation link. We apologize for the inconvenience. (link #25)
sexellent? Is that what you give gmail accounts away for? And hardworking, honest hackers like myself cannot get one? It's a shame!
You are right about snail mail, but when e-mail is concerned, I think a lot of people use phrases like 'I will send you an e-mail'. In that case the word has become a noun that can be counted (forgive me my lack of linguistic terms) and that way you can make it plural: e-mails. Besides, e-mail isn't just English anymore. It is used in a lot of other languages as well. In Dutch, it is even an official word 'email' (without the hyphen), and is used as any other Dutch word (e.g. you can make it little by adding '-tje' to it: emailtje).
PHBs(Pointy haired bosses for those who aren't dilbert fans)
Finally I read what that means. Read it everywhere, never bothering to find out the exact meaning, though reckoning it would be some kind of clueless boss. Thanks for enlightening me with YAA (Yet Another Ackronym);-).
While you are right, it doesn't mean that this is not weird (if not stupid or outright outrageaous). The Iraqis should have that domain.
My opinion by the way about building up a country is that it can and should be done in parallel, so work at everything at the same time, if possible. Not sequential; first the water, then electricity, etc. Perhaps there are regions where it is relatively quiet and water and electricity is working more or less okay. They will want that TLD and start building up an information infrastructure, which will boost other developments as well.
Wow, talking about impossible to download. Using Linux here with Mozilla, but I can't get a download anywhere, only nasty popups and other ad stuff. And then only to find out it doesnt work in Wine... (I think, ais, couldn't download it yet).
I don't think you can say 'it sucks' in general, because it usually means 'it doesn't work for me'.
In this particular case, it is even worse, because it is an alpha release. Alpha means 'not finished', 'still a lot of bugs to be fixed' and, most importantly, 'this may not work on your SupaDupa-TurboCharged new hardware or with all your Pre-Installed Ultra-spam filter firewall software'.
Of course, there are programs that really suck, and I also say that something sucks sometimes when it only doesn't work for me.
That is not my point. My point is that releases of software, unless maybe major releases of big packages (think Linux Kernel, but also major Windows releases) should not be announced on the frontpage of slashdot. We have freshmeat for that.
From what I found on the web (yes I did search it to get to know what it was), it is just another network tool. There are hundreds of those, do we need a release announcement of all of them? I think not.
What is this? Are we going to post every release of every network/security related software package? Why would I care about a Windows tool that is closed-source. I am sorry, but I really do not see the relevance of this according the 'news for nerds, stuff that matters'.
Ah, yes, you are right. Sorry I misread your comment. I did read some comments from one of the three founding fathers of UML about 'executable models' once and I am working on that now myself. We already have a modelling language that can execute and generate C++ code (POOSL, google & feeling lucky will get you to the main page). I myself am working on a mapping between UML and that language.
I do both, depends on the time I have on my hands and the package (source or binary) I can find. Usually build from scratch on my desktop, as it is Gentoo and it gets me the latest version.
My server has to get binaries, because there is no C compiler installed there, or even the make tools. Because of security reasons. So what happens is I build it from source on my desktop, make a package and install that on my server.
but the UML-people has been working on visual programming for years
Nope. I am doing research for my master's degree on UML and other modelling languages. UML is not about visual programming. It is about modelling. UML is a tool to get discussiuns from other engineers. It is for documentation. Granted, most of the tools can generate some code (usually Java; which is extremely suitable for this) but that is mostly limited to class skeletons. Which is not really programming if you ask me. The last Rose-RT has some executable model semantics and an engine, but they are nowhere near any standard or even correct.
Euh, what do you want to say with that figure? You are multiplying the price of 10 million addresses with the total spam e-mail per year. That would give you:
$/address * SPAM/Year
Which resolves to something like dollarspam per addressyear. What the hell is THAT?
No. Googol (that is the word) is 10^100, so that is a one with 100 zeroes. To compare: the total amount of particles in the universe is estimated at 10^89 IIRC.
I understand there are a lot of programming languages and also a lot of them aren't used (anymore).
For the mainstream languages, you could say that whenever a new superset or derivative of that language is released, the 'parent' language will not cease to exist. It is evolutionary. Just like what someone else pointed out: monkeys, plants and amoeba still co-exist with humans.
I know the quote was wrong, and thus the entire discussion is senseless. But still, there are things to say about a language dying: (computer) languages do not die. Period. All of the languages ever invented are still used somewhere. People still use FORTRAN, COBOL, C64 BASIC and all kinds of other weird languages.
Besides, why would one of the most powerful and widely used and known languages (C) die? It is like saying noone uses a normal screwdriver anymore, just because they own a battery-powered one. Sometimes you just use the normal one, because it is easier, faster and it just works.
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While you are right, I would say that it would be nice to have some unity in it all. There are different brands of cars for example. They all work with different technology under the hood, have different specs, etc. However, anyone with a driver's license can sit behind the wheel, start it and drive it away. You can buy stuff that goes into the lighter socket (?) and the radio-bay or is fixed in the backseat.
Linux distributions should have something like that. Use just one package manager, just one bootup script system. In fact, you could even have different user interfaces, but installing/configuring them should be uniform.
Of course not. You only need to get rid of the stigma of 'Linux is text-only' and 'Linux is hard'. Windows is just as sucky as any other OS. They all have their caveats, they all can do others cannot. People are used to the squirks and crashes of Windows, not to its ease-of-use.
I use Linux at home and Windows (for Simatic S7) and Linux at work. Whenever I use Windows, I get fed up with its quirks, because I am used to Linux's quirks. Same goes for a Windows user that switches to Linux (in fact, I have an example of a misbehaving xmms. My friend (Windows user) could not fix it, while it was just a simple menu setting, which you could find when you actually looked for it and knew some English. But, because my friend only knew WinAmp and its quirks, he looked in the wrong place).
Just get rid of the stigma. I actually had the question if Linux had 'a mousepointer to click on buttons' recently. He still thought Linux was a text-only OS.
just fire up an old computer that runs an old version of WP, open the files, export them to ASCII and you at least have all the text. Perhaps it might be possible to export them to some richer format and also export the formatting/pictures.
Well, what I understand is that such machines exist already. Terabit switches do exist and are used as well. They connect several highspeed (gbit) lines to eachother and route everything accordingly.
This record is not about high speed on short distances (as used in terabit switches) but about long distance sustained rates. It is so to speak the 'head of the research'. More useful systems will emerge from technologies used here.
I know my hard drive doesn't go that fast. I don't even think my RAM is that fast.
They are testing a network, not harddrives or RAM (as said in other posts as well). Consider the incredible amount of data generated by big clusters or machines used at CERN for example. You generate the data in Switzerland, and move it to your friendly colleague in the USA, where his supercomputer will render some nice images from it. And, I am not a supercomputer-guru or anything (haven't even seen one for that matter), but I can tell you, they are nothing like your PC at home.
And that is only one usage of it. Consider the internet connection between Amsterdam and New York. That are a lot of connections together, all in one stream. If that could be a 101Gbit/s line, it will make a lot of connections faster, think of real-time video(phone) streams, normal phone connections, etc.
Well, that is what they said about compilers too, about 30 years ago. "No compiler can ever generate better code than assembler." And see where we stand now; almost no-one that writes (complex) code in assembler anymore. MDA has a future but I think it will take a long time until it really catches on and is used mainstream. But you cannot ignore it.
People may be dumb, but they are also annoyed by the popups, spyware, crashes, viruses, etc, that come with both IE and OE. When such people then start complaining to people like us (who do have a clue on OSs, programs, and so forth), we will 'fix' their problem by installing Firefox or the entire Mozilla suite. Remember that all 'dumb' people have 'computerfriends', the guy next door, a cousin, whatever. So, FF might not be a direct threat, but it is a threat. In my direct surroundings, more and more Mozilla installations are used, just because I told them to do so, to get rid of the popupvirusspycrap.
The link you followed to create a Gmail account has already been used to create an account for sexellent@gmail.com. Now, its account creating powers are all gone. To create another Gmail account, you'll need a shiny new account creation link. We apologize for the inconvenience. (link #25)
sexellent? Is that what you give gmail accounts away for? And hardworking, honest hackers like myself cannot get one? It's a shame!
You are right about snail mail, but when e-mail is concerned, I think a lot of people use phrases like 'I will send you an e-mail'. In that case the word has become a noun that can be counted (forgive me my lack of linguistic terms) and that way you can make it plural: e-mails. Besides, e-mail isn't just English anymore. It is used in a lot of other languages as well. In Dutch, it is even an official word 'email' (without the hyphen), and is used as any other Dutch word (e.g. you can make it little by adding '-tje' to it: emailtje).
Language lives. Let it live.
PHBs(Pointy haired bosses for those who aren't dilbert fans)
Finally I read what that means. Read it everywhere, never bothering to find out the exact meaning, though reckoning it would be some kind of clueless boss. Thanks for enlightening me with YAA (Yet Another Ackronym) ;-).
Never did a rm -rf .*, but I had done a
chmod 644 .* -R
which also pretty screws your system
That would be IPv13 ...
While you are right, it doesn't mean that this is not weird (if not stupid or outright outrageaous). The Iraqis should have that domain.
My opinion by the way about building up a country is that it can and should be done in parallel, so work at everything at the same time, if possible. Not sequential; first the water, then electricity, etc. Perhaps there are regions where it is relatively quiet and water and electricity is working more or less okay. They will want that TLD and start building up an information infrastructure, which will boost other developments as well.
Wow, talking about impossible to download. Using Linux here with Mozilla, but I can't get a download anywhere, only nasty popups and other ad stuff. And then only to find out it doesnt work in Wine... (I think, ais, couldn't download it yet).
I don't think you can say 'it sucks' in general, because it usually means 'it doesn't work for me'.
In this particular case, it is even worse, because it is an alpha release. Alpha means 'not finished', 'still a lot of bugs to be fixed' and, most importantly, 'this may not work on your SupaDupa-TurboCharged new hardware or with all your Pre-Installed Ultra-spam filter firewall software'.
Of course, there are programs that really suck, and I also say that something sucks sometimes when it only doesn't work for me.
Enter Bill Gates
[Darth Vader voice] Linux ... I am you father [/Darth Vader voice]
That is not my point. My point is that releases of software, unless maybe major releases of big packages (think Linux Kernel, but also major Windows releases) should not be announced on the frontpage of slashdot. We have freshmeat for that.
From what I found on the web (yes I did search it to get to know what it was), it is just another network tool. There are hundreds of those, do we need a release announcement of all of them? I think not.
(This is also a reply to the other sibling post)
What is this? Are we going to post every release of every network/security related software package? Why would I care about a Windows tool that is closed-source. I am sorry, but I really do not see the relevance of this according the 'news for nerds, stuff that matters'.
Ah, yes, you are right. Sorry I misread your comment. I did read some comments from one of the three founding fathers of UML about 'executable models' once and I am working on that now myself. We already have a modelling language that can execute and generate C++ code (POOSL, google & feeling lucky will get you to the main page). I myself am working on a mapping between UML and that language.
I do both, depends on the time I have on my hands and the package (source or binary) I can find. Usually build from scratch on my desktop, as it is Gentoo and it gets me the latest version.
My server has to get binaries, because there is no C compiler installed there, or even the make tools. Because of security reasons. So what happens is I build it from source on my desktop, make a package and install that on my server.
but the UML-people has been working on visual programming for years
Nope. I am doing research for my master's degree on UML and other modelling languages. UML is not about visual programming. It is about modelling. UML is a tool to get discussiuns from other engineers. It is for documentation. Granted, most of the tools can generate some code (usually Java; which is extremely suitable for this) but that is mostly limited to class skeletons. Which is not really programming if you ask me. The last Rose-RT has some executable model semantics and an engine, but they are nowhere near any standard or even correct.
Euh, what do you want to say with that figure? You are multiplying the price of 10 million addresses with the total spam e-mail per year. That would give you:
$/address * SPAM/Year
Which resolves to something like dollarspam per addressyear. What the hell is THAT?
No. Googol (that is the word) is 10^100, so that is a one with 100 zeroes. To compare: the total amount of particles in the universe is estimated at 10^89 IIRC.
I understand there are a lot of programming languages and also a lot of them aren't used (anymore).
For the mainstream languages, you could say that whenever a new superset or derivative of that language is released, the 'parent' language will not cease to exist. It is evolutionary. Just like what someone else pointed out: monkeys, plants and amoeba still co-exist with humans.
I know the quote was wrong, and thus the entire discussion is senseless. But still, there are things to say about a language dying: (computer) languages do not die. Period. All of the languages ever invented are still used somewhere. People still use FORTRAN, COBOL, C64 BASIC and all kinds of other weird languages.
Besides, why would one of the most powerful and widely used and known languages (C) die? It is like saying noone uses a normal screwdriver anymore, just because they own a battery-powered one. Sometimes you just use the normal one, because it is easier, faster and it just works.