I think 10 million people is a *lot* of people to visit your website. I run a website with free music (yes, all legal; check localsounds.nl (dutch, but you don't need to read to download) of local artists with a friend and we did active attraction of people to the site. The highest we got is about 50 hits per day, 50% of which are regulars (I guess).
Granted, it is not a major website with adult content, but when I interpolate these results to a major US pornsite, I still don't think I can get to 10 million.
Exactly, so calling these people 'techophobes' because they don't know how to use computers would be saying 'technophobe' is synonym to 'computerphobe'. Besides, I'd say (to stay in your example) that today printing is more and more done with the use of computers, and to keep being excellent in your field, you need to also know these things. The writer of the article perhaps should have stated that the people that went to his course were not in their business anymore.
It would be fun to have an old 2G drive or so, that is broken anyway and have the heads bounce to and fro around the drive surface. Just for kicks. And, as the guy from the website says, for at LAN parties.
Yes, I remember, I had a harddrive of 20 MB that reported something about 20 GIGS of free space. I never thought that day that we really would have so much space and still complain that it is too little. Anyway, that drive was pretty corrupted. don't remember though if I could get that drive fixed in any way.
1D? that's nothing! In my days, we only had 0D and were staring at The Dot all day....
and then I read the rest of the comment and found out you made the joke already. Let's see -1D, hmm, that's hard to imagine, or -0D, like something as an anti-dot, or... maybe I should stop reading/. and get some work done.
As a matter of fact, you are the one that is being ignorant here. If you have read the article, it says the internet is an agreement and not a thing (albeit information, hardware or software). In this meaning, a computer could actually have the internet in it (being the internet protocol, the agreement which is the internet). In a way, the Dell-seller was right, although I think that was unknowingly.
Other things that annoy me personally by the way are the notorious misconception that the Web is the internet and the well-known phrase 'how do I start up the internet?'.
If you read the script, you'll notice that it will detect that and will bail out with an error message:
if [ -e/etc/debian_version ] then if [ "$DISTRO" = unknown ]; then error 1 "You already have a Debian system" else warning "You have a mixed system, trying to continue" DISTRO_MIXED=yes fi fi
Here at the technical university of Eindhoven (the Netherlands) we use Lego Dacta and Mindstorms for controlling trains to test models. Lego is perfect for these things as it is easy to build things and you can control them from your PC. And who doesn't want to do his master's thesis on Lego;-) ? It would be a pity to see the controller bricks go. They also add to your inventivity and creativity. The themed bricks on the other hand only restrict you in your imagination; you cannot use a Harry Potter in a rocket, but you can use a plain Lego-man (hard to translate, here we call it "poppetje", which would translate to "little puppet", but somehow that doesn't sound right) as Harry Potter.
What if some tries things like 'fcuk' or the like? Does it work also? Think of that english research done lately where it says it doesn't make much difference in which order the letters are, as long as the beginning and ending letter are correct. More about that here.
For your information, slashdot.org is being read by a lot of people, for whom english is not their first language, like me. Besides, as someone pointed out in this thread, acceptation is correct.
How about massive acceptation? The internet has been around since 1969 or so, but with the developments in cheap hardware (thanks to IBM and Microsoft) and an easy to use operating system (again Microsoft), the internet had the environment to grow and become massively accepted by non-technical people. This acceptation then led to a faster, cheaper and bigger internet. The one we now use. Don't think too technical, social developments count too in 'The History of the Internet'.
because you can't spell Google with a dollar sign like you can with "Micro$oft"
What's with the America-centricism of Slashdot? Why not use the Euro sign like Googl[insert Euro sign here*]?
*) Seems like it is not possible to insert a Euro sign in slashdot posts. Again American-centricism? Both using HTML entities and pasting it don't work.
Tell that to all the people (like myself) who lost a parent when they are just 14 years old (my mother was just turned 44). FYI, a *lot* of people in their 30s and 40s have cancer. I can name some in my close neighborhood easily and some of those weren't even in their 30s (one was just 23, a fellow student of mine). Curing cancer is a very good thing.
I agree with you only to the extent that *old* people die from cancer because they don't die from something else. In that case I'd speak of dying of old age too. Among the people that die not of old age, I'd reckon cancer is one of the main death causes in first world countries.
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I think 10 million people is a *lot* of people to visit your website. I run a website with free music (yes, all legal; check localsounds.nl (dutch, but you don't need to read to download) of local artists with a friend and we did active attraction of people to the site. The highest we got is about 50 hits per day, 50% of which are regulars (I guess).
Granted, it is not a major website with adult content, but when I interpolate these results to a major US pornsite, I still don't think I can get to 10 million.
Technology is a superset of computers.
Exactly, so calling these people 'techophobes' because they don't know how to use computers would be saying 'technophobe' is synonym to 'computerphobe'. Besides, I'd say (to stay in your example) that today printing is more and more done with the use of computers, and to keep being excellent in your field, you need to also know these things. The writer of the article perhaps should have stated that the people that went to his course were not in their business anymore.
It would be fun to have an old 2G drive or so, that is broken anyway and have the heads bounce to and fro around the drive surface. Just for kicks. And, as the guy from the website says, for at LAN parties.
Yes, I remember, I had a harddrive of 20 MB that reported something about 20 GIGS of free space. I never thought that day that we really would have so much space and still complain that it is too little. Anyway, that drive was pretty corrupted. don't remember though if I could get that drive fixed in any way.
Am I the only one that found the contradictio in terminis in the first paragraph?
He starts out with this comment:
Many of them had mastered complex technical jobs and excelled in their chosen field.
Then, only a few sentences later I read this:
These people are technophobic both in that they fear being left behind by the rapid advance of technology and that they fear the technology itself.
This raises two questions for me:
Am I missing something here, or is the definition of 'technology' been changed and broadened last night?
1D? that's nothing! In my days, we only had 0D and were staring at The Dot all day ....
and then I read the rest of the comment and found out you made the joke already. Let's see -1D, hmm, that's hard to imagine, or -0D, like something as an anti-dot, or ... maybe I should stop reading /. and get some work done.
As a matter of fact, you are the one that is being ignorant here. If you have read the article, it says the internet is an agreement and not a thing (albeit information, hardware or software). In this meaning, a computer could actually have the internet in it (being the internet protocol, the agreement which is the internet). In a way, the Dell-seller was right, although I think that was unknowingly.
Other things that annoy me personally by the way are the notorious misconception that the Web is the internet and the well-known phrase 'how do I start up the internet?'.
Just my two euro cents
Grolsch is much better then Heineken, Please Try it :-D
This is so true ...
So you are a pot-smoking, cheese-eating, miller that walks on wooden shoes?
Is it really this bad that you think we all walk around on wooden shoes and live in windmills? We haven't been doing that since the 90s !!
Why not just call it Winux instead? ;)
And get sued by Linus because it resembles Windows too much? No way. It seems like Lindows is stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Who the hell is gonna open a 3kb executable from kazaa?
Noone, it is disguised as a 700MB download of the new Britney Spears movie (and yes it is very bad of me that I know it exists)
If you read the script, you'll notice that it will detect that and will bail out with an error message:
Here at the technical university of Eindhoven (the Netherlands) we use Lego Dacta and Mindstorms for controlling trains to test models. Lego is perfect for these things as it is easy to build things and you can control them from your PC. And who doesn't want to do his master's thesis on Lego ;-) ? It would be a pity to see the controller bricks go. They also add to your inventivity and creativity. The themed bricks on the other hand only restrict you in your imagination; you cannot use a Harry Potter in a rocket, but you can use a plain Lego-man (hard to translate, here we call it "poppetje", which would translate to "little puppet", but somehow that doesn't sound right) as Harry Potter.
What if some tries things like 'fcuk' or the like? Does it work also? Think of that english research done lately where it says it doesn't make much difference in which order the letters are, as long as the beginning and ending letter are correct. More about that here.
For your information, slashdot.org is being read by a lot of people, for whom english is not their first language, like me. Besides, as someone pointed out in this thread, acceptation is correct.
what have they EVER contributed to the net
How about massive acceptation? The internet has been around since 1969 or so, but with the developments in cheap hardware (thanks to IBM and Microsoft) and an easy to use operating system (again Microsoft), the internet had the environment to grow and become massively accepted by non-technical people. This acceptation then led to a faster, cheaper and bigger internet. The one we now use. Don't think too technical, social developments count too in 'The History of the Internet'.
_technically_ spoken, because a chip is made of silicon, which is taken from sand, which comes from rubble, it _does_ run on rubble.
Sorry to be a nitpick, but JavaScript was created by Netscape and has nothing to do with Java, except for the name. And perhaps language constructs.
I don't think I can do that, Dave.
Or a load of geeks with no money looking for internet access.
because you can't spell Google with a dollar sign like you can with "Micro$oft"
What's with the America-centricism of Slashdot? Why not use the Euro sign like Googl[insert Euro sign here*]?
*) Seems like it is not possible to insert a Euro sign in slashdot posts. Again American-centricism? Both using HTML entities and pasting it don't work.
There is *already* a W3C replacement for the proprietary Flash format: Javascript + DOM + SVG
Of course you mean ECMAScript, for Javascript is not W3C, but Netscape's.
Tell that to all the people (like myself) who lost a parent when they are just 14 years old (my mother was just turned 44). FYI, a *lot* of people in their 30s and 40s have cancer. I can name some in my close neighborhood easily and some of those weren't even in their 30s (one was just 23, a fellow student of mine). Curing cancer is a very good thing.
I agree with you only to the extent that *old* people die from cancer because they don't die from something else. In that case I'd speak of dying of old age too. Among the people that die not of old age, I'd reckon cancer is one of the main death causes in first world countries.
From netcraft: The site www.microsoft.com is running Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on Linux.
Is it correct? Is it even possible to run IIS on Linux?