Gotta agree. @Home is exactly what its name is...at home internet access. Its not there for you to set up a usenet group or a porn server, you can actually do that cheaper with a decent web hosting company.
I've actually enjoyed my @home for many years. I haven't done any recent download rate analysis and come to think of it, that's probably good, means I haven't noticed and change in download rates. I do think the price is getting close to my upper limit especially when they raise the rates 15% any more of those and I will probably go bye bye.
My @Home network has been pretty stable over the years, and in the last year I have probably only experience 1 outage during a time when I wanted to use my machine.
Tech Support...well, the first level tech support is horrible...people reading from a script or something. Once you finally talk to the 2nd level they are very helpful. Some really long waits, but in over three years of having @home I have probably only had to call tech support 5 or less times.
Now, my DSL experience is all 2nd hand, but I have not heard very many good words. A friend cancelled his and the signed up for some really good deal. They promised hime installation within 10 days...he got it over a month later. Sounds a lot like the post office.
Why do I sit here and post random messages to a random board that nobody will read????????
Yeah, great post.
By the way, there is exactly the same amount of modulation on the carrier as there is today. And much less dangerous that the crack you appear to be smoking
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However, in the US, wireless communication is not a utilitiey, which means our government in the last couple decades has decided that wireless communication is not a necessity for the people.
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Ten years ago, people thought it was really cool to be able to make a phone call without a wire. There were no text messages, there was no digital cellular, PCS, GSM, CDMA, etc.
My point here is that you say that people only want test messages and be able to hold a phone call, but the text messaging is just another bell and whistle. What will they want tomorrow is the big question...in any business. Its the guessing game of trying to get ahead of the competition. yes, consumers will tell you that they only want to be able to make a call, but still the bells and whistles sell.
3G is coming...actually 3G1X is coming and will we see were that gets us. For Verizon & Sprint in the US its going to be relatively cheap, of course the data rates are going to be that high, but it also will provide much better network performance on the voice side.
Like any new technology its going to take some time to finds its place in the market. Prices will be high at first and come down and settle out as market forces come to light.
I'm sick of hearing statements like, "3G is too expensive, nobody's going to want it, nobody will pay the price they are going to ask, etc." The thing is right now we don't know what the companies are going to charge. Also, who in the world would by a DVD-Burner when we have cheap CD Burners...its just some extra bells and whistles. Well, there have been early adopters and the price will continue to come down and the price of the media will come down and soon it will be standard in desktop computers and we will all wonder what people did in the "good old days" when they put less than 1 GIG on a disc.
And then posters will stop writing run on sentences.
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Kinda funny, sounds like what some great visionary may have said a few years ago..."Who needs a phone that go with you anywhere. I usually only need my phone at home and at work and I have them there. If I am on the road, there are pay phones everywhere I could possibly need one."
My point is, perhaps today you do not see the need for 3G (by the way there are many more benefits than just higher data rates), but perhaps there will be in the very near future.
Devices that operate in unlicensed bands must accept interference from all sources.
Which means that even in my own house, I coudl operate the same system (802.11b, cordless phone, etc) and have all kinds of problems, but my neighbor who owns the same system might be jsut fine. The problems could come from the Metricom antennas (or whomever might be operating today) outside my windows because they happen to be operating on that unlicensed band.
Yes, but why by a bimmer when a corvette has better performance for thousands less...image. Of course you talk about onkyo/marantz like they are high end, they are high end, but they are on the high end of the low end of the spectrum (consumer audio).
ALong these same lines you may want to look at some third party Fiber providers and/or dark fiber and see what it would take to connect into their existing fiber routes.
That's the reason that all the carriers are asking for extensions to the FCC deadlines. Anybody with a grand solution could/should be wealthy. There currently are some attempts at solutions, but they are a step away from being THE solution.
To be used as a stand alone GPS would eat up the batteries and lots of switch processing power. The GPS in the Sprint phones are assisted by algrithims in the switches to help with difficult GPS locations (in large urban canyons, inside buildings, etc).
As far as I know, currently no wireless carrier has plans to advertise on these phones (most likely will happen in the future, but probably not for quite some time), they are just there to meet FCC guidlines for 911.
CDMA2K (Which is IS-2000) is not a stepping stone to W-CDMA, they are just 2 different standards that do essentially the same thing. Generally CDMA2K will use 3 1.25MHZ channels and W-CDMA will use one ~4MHZ channels. Both are called 5 MHz channels due gaurd bands and such, but do not truly occupy 5 MHz
"Many carriers in the U.S. will evolve to CDMA2000, which can be regarded as a stepping stone to WCDMA "
Intially the CDMA carriers will be rolling out 3G1X which will use only 1 of those 3 Channels I was talking about for data, this stage is a stepping stone but it is part of the CDMA2K standard. Which also leads way to 3G E-DO...but that's another story for next year.
I have heard that GPRS data throughput rates will very poor. Even though the speak of 170kps or something I am hearing numbers around 10-20kps peak. Yes, CDMA will also preach big numbers but you will not seen these numbers in very many places. It will be interesting to see what the throughput is going to be.
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Gotta agree. @Home is exactly what its name is...at home internet access. Its not there for you to set up a usenet group or a porn server, you can actually do that cheaper with a decent web hosting company. I've actually enjoyed my @home for many years. I haven't done any recent download rate analysis and come to think of it, that's probably good, means I haven't noticed and change in download rates. I do think the price is getting close to my upper limit especially when they raise the rates 15% any more of those and I will probably go bye bye. My @Home network has been pretty stable over the years, and in the last year I have probably only experience 1 outage during a time when I wanted to use my machine. Tech Support...well, the first level tech support is horrible...people reading from a script or something. Once you finally talk to the 2nd level they are very helpful. Some really long waits, but in over three years of having @home I have probably only had to call tech support 5 or less times. Now, my DSL experience is all 2nd hand, but I have not heard very many good words. A friend cancelled his and the signed up for some really good deal. They promised hime installation within 10 days...he got it over a month later. Sounds a lot like the post office. Why do I sit here and post random messages to a random board that nobody will read????????
Yeah, great post. By the way, there is exactly the same amount of modulation on the carrier as there is today. And much less dangerous that the crack you appear to be smoking
> However, in the US, wireless communication is not a utilitiey, which means our government in the last couple decades has decided that wireless communication is not a necessity for the people.
> Ten years ago, people thought it was really cool to be able to make a phone call without a wire. There were no text messages, there was no digital cellular, PCS, GSM, CDMA, etc. My point here is that you say that people only want test messages and be able to hold a phone call, but the text messaging is just another bell and whistle. What will they want tomorrow is the big question...in any business. Its the guessing game of trying to get ahead of the competition. yes, consumers will tell you that they only want to be able to make a call, but still the bells and whistles sell. 3G is coming...actually 3G1X is coming and will we see were that gets us. For Verizon & Sprint in the US its going to be relatively cheap, of course the data rates are going to be that high, but it also will provide much better network performance on the voice side. Like any new technology its going to take some time to finds its place in the market. Prices will be high at first and come down and settle out as market forces come to light. I'm sick of hearing statements like, "3G is too expensive, nobody's going to want it, nobody will pay the price they are going to ask, etc." The thing is right now we don't know what the companies are going to charge. Also, who in the world would by a DVD-Burner when we have cheap CD Burners...its just some extra bells and whistles. Well, there have been early adopters and the price will continue to come down and the price of the media will come down and soon it will be standard in desktop computers and we will all wonder what people did in the "good old days" when they put less than 1 GIG on a disc. And then posters will stop writing run on sentences.
> Kinda funny, sounds like what some great visionary may have said a few years ago..."Who needs a phone that go with you anywhere. I usually only need my phone at home and at work and I have them there. If I am on the road, there are pay phones everywhere I could possibly need one." My point is, perhaps today you do not see the need for 3G (by the way there are many more benefits than just higher data rates), but perhaps there will be in the very near future.
Nice post. Maybe you should read a little of your writing before you click on that submit button.
Devices that operate in unlicensed bands must accept interference from all sources. Which means that even in my own house, I coudl operate the same system (802.11b, cordless phone, etc) and have all kinds of problems, but my neighbor who owns the same system might be jsut fine. The problems could come from the Metricom antennas (or whomever might be operating today) outside my windows because they happen to be operating on that unlicensed band.
Yes, but why by a bimmer when a corvette has better performance for thousands less...image. Of course you talk about onkyo/marantz like they are high end, they are high end, but they are on the high end of the low end of the spectrum (consumer audio).
ALong these same lines you may want to look at some third party Fiber providers and/or dark fiber and see what it would take to connect into their existing fiber routes.
That's the reason that all the carriers are asking for extensions to the FCC deadlines. Anybody with a grand solution could/should be wealthy. There currently are some attempts at solutions, but they are a step away from being THE solution.
To be used as a stand alone GPS would eat up the batteries and lots of switch processing power. The GPS in the Sprint phones are assisted by algrithims in the switches to help with difficult GPS locations (in large urban canyons, inside buildings, etc). As far as I know, currently no wireless carrier has plans to advertise on these phones (most likely will happen in the future, but probably not for quite some time), they are just there to meet FCC guidlines for 911.
CDMA2K (Which is IS-2000) is not a stepping stone to W-CDMA, they are just 2 different standards that do essentially the same thing. Generally CDMA2K will use 3 1.25MHZ channels and W-CDMA will use one ~4MHZ channels. Both are called 5 MHz channels due gaurd bands and such, but do not truly occupy 5 MHz
"Many carriers in the U.S. will evolve to CDMA2000, which can be regarded as a stepping stone to WCDMA "
Intially the CDMA carriers will be rolling out 3G1X which will use only 1 of those 3 Channels I was talking about for data, this stage is a stepping stone but it is part of the CDMA2K standard. Which also leads way to 3G E-DO...but that's another story for next year.
I have heard that GPRS data throughput rates will very poor. Even though the speak of 170kps or something I am hearing numbers around 10-20kps peak. Yes, CDMA will also preach big numbers but you will not seen these numbers in very many places. It will be interesting to see what the throughput is going to be.