I dont know about elsewhere, but UPC Norway is doing similar things to their customers, including forcing everyone to be behind transparent proxies which are set up by amateurs, making web browsing anything but a pleasant experience.
Its sort of sad to say that piracy is a neccesary evil to be able to use software / media in a somewhat humane way nowadays.
Take games for instance. They install the entire content of a CD onto the machine, with no option to minimize installed files, yet, requires the CD to be in for playing.
Or lets look at movies. Isnt it annoying when the rest of the world gets to watch a movie when you have to wait an additional 6 months, simply because you dont live in the popular zone? Or perhaps it didnt sell to well in the other zones and they (big bad sony?) decides its not worth selling in your zone.
Or how about the case of ebooks? The legal way provides no ways for blind to read them. Or for that matter, perhaps it restricts you from printing it out to take to the mens/ladies room.
Now, it used to be illegal for companies to put this type of restrictions on intellectual property. Thank god it isnt like that anymore huh? Now, companies can buy a law if the current ones doesnt suit them. I mean, its not like the government has to care about the little guys. The silent majority that will never complain.. or at least, not many enough. Wee....
I support piracy 100%. I support it because I know that companies will not give me, a user, any good alternaltive, whileas a pirated copy most likely will be possible to use in all the ways I want to use it. Why cant I pay for it at the same time? Well, look at my problem...
I have a big mp3 collection. Now, I do believe artists are entitled to profit from their work. However, to be able to do this legally, I have to get out (eeek), stand in the rain for 40 minutes waiting for the never coming public transit, walk 20 minutes to the record shop that might have the song I want, then buy it together with tons of other songs, pluss I have to pay for the price of the CD. Then I have to get home before the last bus leaves.
Now, instead of doing it the legal way.. i can simply download it in 1 minute, while being all dry, and being able to use it anywhere, on my computer, on CD, anywhere. And it only took me a minute. Now, which method is the best?
Ok? But why not support the initiatives from RIAA to do legal online services? Well, there's a number of reasons here.
They want to charge the exact same thing as you would pay for CD's, ie, you would pay a nonexisting expense.
I dont recall the link but I heard they said the p2p technology was very important for this. Does this imply they taking adventage of regular peoples bandwidth for their services? I think that's a fucking ripoff, pardon my spanish.
All initiatives at this suggests a restricted format, which is severely limited in what you can do with. This is the main reason I do not like CD's, I think this is simply reinventing the whe^H^H^Hmistake.
Obviously, I dont like any of this. And untill they change their stand on all those 3 points above (And yes, I do realize this would more easily allow piracy, but its the only way I will accept it), I will continue my public support for piracy and help those who needs help with it.
The same arguments pretty much goes for movies as well. Apart that I do not mind the DVD disc, I think it provides something in decent quality compared to what it costs. The main problems here are restrictions (now useless restrictions, but they still seem to stick with them) on the format, and in that, zone restrictions. People should be able to view DVDs from all zones. Waiting 6 months for a movie to be released in another zone if the company decides to release the movie at all is just bullshit. That's not how it should work.
For games, Im more positive to restrictions. But just find a better way than by requring an otherwise useless CD to be in the drive. That has been cracked in every single game ever released, I dont know why they keep doing it. I mean, its just an annoying thing, nothing that prevents piracy at all. Do you hear me game developers? Find a better way!!:)
But seriously, do we want to live in a world heading more and more towards this. Where media and software corporations buys all the laws they want, where the little man has nothing he should have said? Where the little girl is taught at school that this is a good thing (Yes, this is already happening)?
So, anyone agree with the way it's going? Ok, everyone agreeing stay silent? Wow.. seems like we've got a majority here. Now you're mad at me, and will reply that you use Linux (or FreeBSD or another free os). But this isnt enough. This is passive support. Only active support, and a lot of it, will make this problem go away. And as we can see, trying to battle such insanities in the courtroom (refering to the case of eff vs dmca), will just end with judges laughing in our faces. We need to find a better way of getting the point through.
10 years ago, this type of movies was very popular. The formula was simple: Shoot, Kill, Talk witty comments, shoot some more. It was simple to make movies like the Terminator, Predator, and etc. And the movies was in fact, very good, simply because of their simplicity. However, I fear that the way people look at things in society today, and the producers/directors will to satisfy the audience, will screw up this type of movie today. It has happent before, and I'm quite certain it will happend again.
But, if the makers for some miraculous reason decides to make a new 80/early 90's movie, I will be the first in line at the cinema to see it.
Not that my reply is related to this particular news in particular, but I think electronic paper will do wonders for the world. Finally, we can get rid of superexpensive and easily breakable screens in otherwise cheap and primitive equipment, and all those home projects.
Its actually specifically with home projects I think electronic paper will become a success. Most people dont make $3m a year, and although old computer parts are usually easy to come by, quality display components arent.
Personally, I dont think the problem is that these people know too much, I think the problem is that they know too little. I cant speak for the rest of the world, but that is the general case with people teaching Linux in Norway (without pointing at everyone though).
They're simply people that thinks they know it all, yet, have generally only touched a single distribution, dont know C (No, I do not say that is a requirement, but it helps a long way), and generally views Linux as something it isnt.
My favourite example of this is IT Akademiet, which seems to have no quality control of their teachers other than the fact that they must know how to turn on the machine. (Yes, a flame and my *personal* opinion, and if you happend to teach there, you dont have to like my opinion)
Its a good idea you've got there. The main reason people like me (although not the majority) continues with "illegal" copying of the music is because we're not even allowed to pay for it without buying the overpriced CD.
...however, RIAA wont let it happend. They've got plenty of money and will gladly spend all of it to keep this project from becoming a reality.
I can seriously say that I dont like this idea very much. This is just not an acceptable way of doing things.
I think this would fall into the same category as governments putting people in mental hospitals because of their political opinion.
Dont worry, im not comparing you to the government;) but the idea falls into the same category as the example mentioned above. I think that if it finally comes to censoring something, it should at least be made clear that its censorship, with a clear reason given why it was censored.
We all know any attempts to fight the DMCA or the RIAA (the product and the producer) has, is and will continue to be a waste of time. Why? Who knows, maybe every judge can be bought, maybe they just dont realise what they're talking about. My point is that this isnt news. We all knew exactly what would and will continue to happend in all similar cases.
Now, im not a US citizen, neither do I plan to visit the US, so im not worried about the DMCA or the RIAA. What I am worried about is that this is sending a message out to other governments and other organizations saying that buying laws is ok. Keeping people in jail for insane reasons is ok. Threatening to slap lawsuits on someone that doesnt obey you 100% is ok. Evidently, it is ok.
I agree with Alan in censoring security changes. He makes a very valid point. The problem isnt wheter someone will slap a lawsuit on you. The problem is wheter someone CAN slap a lawsuit on you.
Anyone using wu-ftpd has only themselves to blaim if anything happends to their servers. This application has a bug history making Microsoft look like what OpenBSD claims to be. There are many free and secure and certainly more extensible options available, so why distros still stick with wu is beyond my understanding.
Had exactly the same problems with my 76gb drive. Some sectors just makes an annoying "Gssshh gsssshhh gsssshhh" noise when trying to read from them. I've never bought anything from IBM after this experience, I simply dont want to deal with companies making products like this, I dont make unlimited money, I need to know that what I buy will last more than 3 months (which was the lifetime of my drive before it started bugging).
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What is so bloody difficult about writing a sniffer? :)
I dont know about elsewhere, but UPC Norway is doing similar things to their customers, including forcing everyone to be behind transparent proxies which are set up by amateurs, making web browsing anything but a pleasant experience.
- Idea is suggested, and everyone predicts it will fail.
- Idea is implemented, and everyone predicts it will fail.
- It fails.
You'd think record companies would start seeing a pattern here too.Take games for instance. They install the entire content of a CD onto the machine, with no option to minimize installed files, yet, requires the CD to be in for playing.
Or lets look at movies. Isnt it annoying when the rest of the world gets to watch a movie when you have to wait an additional 6 months, simply because you dont live in the popular zone? Or perhaps it didnt sell to well in the other zones and they (big bad sony?) decides its not worth selling in your zone.
Or how about the case of ebooks? The legal way provides no ways for blind to read them. Or for that matter, perhaps it restricts you from printing it out to take to the mens/ladies room.
Now, it used to be illegal for companies to put this type of restrictions on intellectual property. Thank god it isnt like that anymore huh? Now, companies can buy a law if the current ones doesnt suit them. I mean, its not like the government has to care about the little guys. The silent majority that will never complain.. or at least, not many enough. Wee....
I support piracy 100%. I support it because I know that companies will not give me, a user, any good alternaltive, whileas a pirated copy most likely will be possible to use in all the ways I want to use it. Why cant I pay for it at the same time? Well, look at my problem...
I have a big mp3 collection. Now, I do believe artists are entitled to profit from their work. However, to be able to do this legally, I have to get out (eeek), stand in the rain for 40 minutes waiting for the never coming public transit, walk 20 minutes to the record shop that might have the song I want, then buy it together with tons of other songs, pluss I have to pay for the price of the CD. Then I have to get home before the last bus leaves.
Now, instead of doing it the legal way.. i can simply download it in 1 minute, while being all dry, and being able to use it anywhere, on my computer, on CD, anywhere. And it only took me a minute. Now, which method is the best?
Ok? But why not support the initiatives from RIAA to do legal online services? Well, there's a number of reasons here.
-
They want to charge the exact same thing as you would pay for CD's, ie, you would pay a nonexisting expense.
-
I dont recall the link but I heard they said the p2p technology was very important for this. Does this imply they taking adventage of regular peoples bandwidth for their services? I think that's a fucking ripoff, pardon my spanish.
-
All initiatives at this suggests a restricted format, which is severely limited in what you can do with. This is the main reason I do not like CD's, I think this is simply reinventing the whe^H^H^Hmistake.
Obviously, I dont like any of this. And untill they change their stand on all those 3 points above (And yes, I do realize this would more easily allow piracy, but its the only way I will accept it), I will continue my public support for piracy and help those who needs help with it.The same arguments pretty much goes for movies as well. Apart that I do not mind the DVD disc, I think it provides something in decent quality compared to what it costs. The main problems here are restrictions (now useless restrictions, but they still seem to stick with them) on the format, and in that, zone restrictions. People should be able to view DVDs from all zones. Waiting 6 months for a movie to be released in another zone if the company decides to release the movie at all is just bullshit. That's not how it should work.
For games, Im more positive to restrictions. But just find a better way than by requring an otherwise useless CD to be in the drive. That has been cracked in every single game ever released, I dont know why they keep doing it. I mean, its just an annoying thing, nothing that prevents piracy at all. Do you hear me game developers? Find a better way!!
But seriously, do we want to live in a world heading more and more towards this. Where media and software corporations buys all the laws they want, where the little man has nothing he should have said? Where the little girl is taught at school that this is a good thing (Yes, this is already happening)?
So, anyone agree with the way it's going? Ok, everyone agreeing stay silent? Wow.. seems like we've got a majority here. Now you're mad at me, and will reply that you use Linux (or FreeBSD or another free os). But this isnt enough. This is passive support. Only active support, and a lot of it, will make this problem go away. And as we can see, trying to battle such insanities in the courtroom (refering to the case of eff vs dmca), will just end with judges laughing in our faces. We need to find a better way of getting the point through.
10 years ago, this type of movies was very popular. The formula was simple: Shoot, Kill, Talk witty comments, shoot some more. It was simple to make movies like the Terminator, Predator, and etc. And the movies was in fact, very good, simply because of their simplicity. However, I fear that the way people look at things in society today, and the producers/directors will to satisfy the audience, will screw up this type of movie today. It has happent before, and I'm quite certain it will happend again.
But, if the makers for some miraculous reason decides to make a new 80/early 90's movie, I will be the first in line at the cinema to see it.
Ein Wort beschreibt dieses: Hahahaha
(evidently through babelfish:)
Not that my reply is related to this particular news in particular, but I think electronic paper will do wonders for the world. Finally, we can get rid of superexpensive and easily breakable screens in otherwise cheap and primitive equipment, and all those home projects.
Its actually specifically with home projects I think electronic paper will become a success. Most people dont make $3m a year, and although old computer parts are usually easy to come by, quality display components arent.
Personally, I dont think the problem is that these people know too much, I think the problem is that they know too little. I cant speak for the rest of the world, but that is the general case with people teaching Linux in Norway (without pointing at everyone though).
They're simply people that thinks they know it all, yet, have generally only touched a single distribution, dont know C (No, I do not say that is a requirement, but it helps a long way), and generally views Linux as something it isnt.
My favourite example of this is IT Akademiet, which seems to have no quality control of their teachers other than the fact that they must know how to turn on the machine. (Yes, a flame and my *personal* opinion, and if you happend to teach there, you dont have to like my opinion)
Its a good idea you've got there. The main reason people like me (although not the majority) continues with "illegal" copying of the music is because we're not even allowed to pay for it without buying the overpriced CD.
...however, RIAA wont let it happend. They've got plenty of money and will gladly spend all of it to keep this project from becoming a reality.
I can seriously say that I dont like this idea very much. This is just not an acceptable way of doing things.
;) but the idea falls into the same category as the example mentioned above. I think that if it finally comes to censoring something, it should at least be made clear that its censorship, with a clear reason given why it was censored.
I think this would fall into the same category as governments putting people in mental hospitals because of their political opinion.
Dont worry, im not comparing you to the government
"If you can be nothing else, at least be honest"
Personally, im not against "protecting" CD's this way, simply because its not me wasting my money, its the record industry.
:)
And yes, I do intend to go buy a dusin CDs or so, and complain about them not working with my CD player.
We all know any attempts to fight the DMCA or the RIAA (the product and the producer) has, is and will continue to be a waste of time. Why? Who knows, maybe every judge can be bought, maybe they just dont realise what they're talking about. My point is that this isnt news. We all knew exactly what would and will continue to happend in all similar cases.
Now, im not a US citizen, neither do I plan to visit the US, so im not worried about the DMCA or the RIAA. What I am worried about is that this is sending a message out to other governments and other organizations saying that buying laws is ok. Keeping people in jail for insane reasons is ok. Threatening to slap lawsuits on someone that doesnt obey you 100% is ok. Evidently, it is ok.
I agree with Alan in censoring security changes. He makes a very valid point. The problem isnt wheter someone will slap a lawsuit on you. The problem is wheter someone CAN slap a lawsuit on you.
Anyone using wu-ftpd has only themselves to blaim if anything happends to their servers. This application has a bug history making Microsoft look like what OpenBSD claims to be. There are many free and secure and certainly more extensible options available, so why distros still stick with wu is beyond my understanding.
You ought to see my mailbox, 70% of all spam there is from VeriSign (Network Solutions).
Had exactly the same problems with my 76gb drive. Some sectors just makes an annoying "Gssshh gsssshhh gsssshhh" noise when trying to read from them. I've never bought anything from IBM after this experience, I simply dont want to deal with companies making products like this, I dont make unlimited money, I need to know that what I buy will last more than 3 months (which was the lifetime of my drive before it started bugging).