People who dismiss news like this with statements like, "who cares? I can get around this with technique X," are playing right into the copy-prevention advocates' hands. They're just trying to get the *idea* of copy prevention accepted by the public.
Question: If the people who want to defeat the protection can, what difference does it make?
Using a digital output is a great short term solution, but there will undoubtably be ways to do this with software. Thus, as long as there are PC drives that can read CDs, copy-protection schemes are moot. (And even after that, someone will hack the next generation of music media players.)
That's fine, because you clearly weren't part of their target market. Neo-Geo was NOT intended to be an alternative to the mass market 8 or 16-bit consoles.
cheap-ass arcade hardware that tended to snap off in my hands
Maybe you are just a ham-handed oaf. I bet you threw your controllers around in frustration when you couldn't beat E. Honda in the home version of SF-II.
Neo-Geo was never meant to be a mass-market system, at least not the cartridge version. It was a replica of the arcade, for those willing to pay for the priviledge. SNK would have gone out of business years earlier if they had tried to compete with SNES and Genesis.
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This was *not* my idea of what to pay for a console gaming system.
It was out of my price range too (way out). But, strictly speaking, you were paying for an exact replica of a state of the art arcade machine, designed for home use. For what it was, it wasn't such a bad deal. It just wasn't a deal many people were able to take them up on.
This is just one more nail in the coffin of quality, hand-drawn, 2D arcarde style games. Many generes have benefited or even spawned from the switch to 3D, but I'll take Samurai Spirits (2-4) over Soul Caliber any day of the week.
I must have bought versions of Samurai Spirits for half a dozen platforms. It has been really sad watching SNK fall into obscurity over the last few years. Especially with the comparatively shallow games of Capcom continuing to rake in the bucks.
I'm pretty sure that bit by bit copying is not affected by any attempts to add errors to the bit stream.
This tech usually revolves around preventing computers from recognizing the data as files, and/or adding noise that prevents a CD-ROM drive from reading the data (CD players ignore the errors).
As far as I know, the "jerks" that you complain about are not exceeding their bandwidth limitations. That limit is set by the provider. What they are doing is using their alloted bandwidth for a sustained period. Perfectly fair use. Unfortunately, the providers assume that the bandwidth will only be used in short bursts. If they accounted for larger downlaods, they would have to advertise much lower speeds.
My point is that high use customers are using what they paid for. If they are slowing you down, your beef is with the provider.
As a cable modem customer, I know all too well that a "plentiful" reserve of bandwidth quickly gets hogged by jerks who queue up and download several movies, ISOs, and pieces of warez simultaneously. This is a prime example of the tragedy of the commons.
No, this is what happens when a provider sells a level of service they can't sustain on the (unstated) assumption that the user will not take full advantage of it.
It's as if the guy with the stick (or say, a lug wrench fixing his car) had glared across the street at you, and you knew he was trying to intimidate you. You still can't pursue legal action against him until he comes over and holds the lug wrench over your head, even though he's made his intentions clear.
The second his intentions are clear (to you) you are free to act. If you fear for your safety, you can even kill him, legally.
It would be pointless for the FBI to contact anti-virus vendors: anti-virus programs cannot detect Magic Lantern, they can only detect widespread viruses.
How do you figure that!? Anti-virus programs can detect anything that can be identified by a signature.
In the UK, I beleive that you have to have a license to have a TV. So, if you don't want to pay for the license, they send someone around to make sure that you don't have a TV in your house (since they don't have a means of remotely detecting it or blocking the transmission at your property line.) Weird, but (as far as I know) true.
It doesn't even begin to compare. My house is my private residence. It's nothing like public space. If they wanted to put a camera in my house and film me then hell yes I'd object.
What justification is there for putting a camera in a public place that does not also apply to your private residence?
having competition among multiple technologies is also a good thing
In the early stages yes. But, in instances like this, the longer that "competition" persists, the more detrimental it is to the development of the market.
As long as the standard is not controlled by a single entity (for its own profit), it is better to have a SINGLE standard.
You've never heard of an Internet Cafe? Or better yet, a Public Library with internet access?
You must be some kind of self-absorbed eletist to assume that everyone on the Net owns their own equipment.
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With frames, there's just no solution for "frameset page X, which originally pointed to Y and Z, but now points to A and B."
Actually, I found a way to solve this, though you could probably argue that it does not qualify as a strictly Frames based solution. I just created a server side script that controls the frame sources (in ASP, so shoot me). Basically, the frame sources are embedded in a link to an ASP page that serves the frames page. For example frames.asp?leftframe=x&rightframe=y would produce a frames page with the specified pages in the specified frames. This is helpful when the people who call the shots are concerend about elements in one frame (a nav bar, for example) always being visible to the user.
Please use the following examples to improve your usage of then and than:
"I ate more jello then you."
"If you give me a dollar, than I'll wash your feet."
"Some people are uglier then you."
"Back than, a car cost a dollar."
Thenks.
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People who dismiss news like this with statements like, "who cares? I can get around this with technique X," are playing right into the copy-prevention advocates' hands. They're just trying to get the *idea* of copy prevention accepted by the public.
Question: If the people who want to defeat the protection can, what difference does it make?
Using a digital output is a great short term solution, but there will undoubtably be ways to do this with software. Thus, as long as there are PC drives that can read CDs, copy-protection schemes are moot. (And even after that, someone will hack the next generation of music media players.)
* doing it in real time. Glad you paid extra for that 50X speed cdrom drive?
Perish the thought of playing the CD one time through before ripping it!
That's fine, because you clearly weren't part of their target market. Neo-Geo was NOT intended to be an alternative to the mass market 8 or 16-bit consoles.
You know, when something is in the coffin, somehow I do not mind few nails to close it down.
It's a figure of speech. There is no reason why 2D games should be dead OR buried, other than lazy programmers and shallow gamers.
cheap-ass arcade hardware that tended to snap off in my hands
Maybe you are just a ham-handed oaf. I bet you threw your controllers around in frustration when you couldn't beat E. Honda in the home version of SF-II.
Neo-Geo was never meant to be a mass-market system, at least not the cartridge version. It was a replica of the arcade, for those willing to pay for the priviledge. SNK would have gone out of business years earlier if they had tried to compete with SNES and Genesis.
This was *not* my idea of what to pay for a console gaming system.
It was out of my price range too (way out). But, strictly speaking, you were paying for an exact replica of a state of the art arcade machine, designed for home use. For what it was, it wasn't such a bad deal. It just wasn't a deal many people were able to take them up on.
what is TBFD?
This is just one more nail in the coffin of quality, hand-drawn, 2D arcarde style games. Many generes have benefited or even spawned from the switch to 3D, but I'll take Samurai Spirits (2-4) over Soul Caliber any day of the week.
I must have bought versions of Samurai Spirits for half a dozen platforms. It has been really sad watching SNK fall into obscurity over the last few years. Especially with the comparatively shallow games of Capcom continuing to rake in the bucks.
Why don't you log in and say that?
I'm pretty sure that bit by bit copying is not affected by any attempts to add errors to the bit stream.
This tech usually revolves around preventing computers from recognizing the data as files, and/or adding noise that prevents a CD-ROM drive from reading the data (CD players ignore the errors).
According to this site, there is more to the government than the FCC.
Immediate physical safety, that is. Unfortunately, fear of being brutalized in prison or a homeless shelter does not count.
As far as I know, the "jerks" that you complain about are not exceeding their bandwidth limitations. That limit is set by the provider. What they are doing is using their alloted bandwidth for a sustained period. Perfectly fair use. Unfortunately, the providers assume that the bandwidth will only be used in short bursts. If they accounted for larger downlaods, they would have to advertise much lower speeds.
My point is that high use customers are using what they paid for. If they are slowing you down, your beef is with the provider.
Don't let big corporations continue to buy up all the bandwidth and hold us hostage with it.
Or, in the case of LPFM, those hypocrits at NPR.
As a cable modem customer, I know all too well that a "plentiful" reserve of bandwidth quickly gets hogged by jerks who queue up and download several movies, ISOs, and pieces of warez simultaneously. This is a prime example of the tragedy of the commons.
No, this is what happens when a provider sells a level of service they can't sustain on the (unstated) assumption that the user will not take full advantage of it.
It's as if the guy with the stick (or say, a lug wrench fixing his car) had glared across the street at you, and you knew he was trying to intimidate you. You still can't pursue legal action against him until he comes over and holds the lug wrench over your head, even though he's made his intentions clear.
The second his intentions are clear (to you) you are free to act. If you fear for your safety, you can even kill him, legally.
How sad that Symantec does not meet the standards of absolute perfection that have been achieved by other software vendors. tsk, tsk.
It would be pointless for the FBI to contact anti-virus vendors: anti-virus programs cannot detect Magic Lantern, they can only detect widespread viruses.
How do you figure that!? Anti-virus programs can detect anything that can be identified by a signature.
In the UK, I beleive that you have to have a license to have a TV. So, if you don't want to pay for the license, they send someone around to make sure that you don't have a TV in your house (since they don't have a means of remotely detecting it or blocking the transmission at your property line.) Weird, but (as far as I know) true.
It doesn't even begin to compare. My house is my private residence. It's nothing like public space. If they wanted to put a camera in my house and film me then hell yes I'd object.
What justification is there for putting a camera in a public place that does not also apply to your private residence?
having competition among multiple technologies is also a good thing
In the early stages yes. But, in instances like this, the longer that "competition" persists, the more detrimental it is to the development of the market.
As long as the standard is not controlled by a single entity (for its own profit), it is better to have a SINGLE standard.
You've never heard of an Internet Cafe? Or better yet, a Public Library with internet access?
You must be some kind of self-absorbed eletist to assume that everyone on the Net owns their own equipment.
With frames, there's just no solution for "frameset page X, which originally pointed to Y and Z, but now points to A and B."
Actually, I found a way to solve this, though you could probably argue that it does not qualify as a strictly Frames based solution. I just created a server side script that controls the frame sources (in ASP, so shoot me). Basically, the frame sources are embedded in a link to an ASP page that serves the frames page. For example frames.asp?leftframe=x&rightframe=y would produce a frames page with the specified pages in the specified frames. This is helpful when the people who call the shots are concerend about elements in one frame (a nav bar, for example) always being visible to the user.
Please use the following examples to improve your usage of then and than:
"I ate more jello then you."
"If you give me a dollar, than I'll wash your feet."
"Some people are uglier then you."
"Back than, a car cost a dollar."
Thenks.