Well, you do have a right to do what you want with your device ( once its paid off ) but it is their network you are asking to use, and its their rules to connect to it, regardless of what we think. Now if the blacklist disabled your device ( AT&T service not withstanding, or canceling your warranty ) then there is a problem. If it sticks with disabling your access to THEIR network, oh well.
Its their right ( but then again, its our right not to choose their service... )
Well, i have it now but if i so much as sneeze on my plan it will dissimilar in to the AT&T ether.. If you have to pay for data use, *and* cell minutes, what the point of voip other then security?
..Is where i personally draw the line. They should be taken out if they are truly profiting off piracy. And no, i don't mean making a buck or 2 on the side with some ad revenue on a torrent page, but true profit by selling the stuff.
I don't think he is, or at least not for the reason you are eluding to.. A lot of us are not willingly giving it up, but having it forcibly taken from us with no *realistic* recourse.
I disagree, there is a LOT to see here, and we should be fighting this nonsense, not just "moving along". Apathy is just as bad as 'its for the kids' when it comes to losing our rights and freedoms.
Who knows, people are having a bad day? Or perhaps they are guilty themselves?:)
I was trying to be serious, as it would be a great way to distract attention to yourself ( as the bad guy ) and take down your enemies in the process. A double win.
One would assume that the high end coders doing this stuff would be that smart.
Everyone else is doing it, so why wouldn't they? Just like the bad old days ( for those that remember it ).
I still think this was the intent all along. Make it 'free' long enough for people to start relying on having data available, introducing even more bandwidth hog services, then after it will be hard for most to back off, start charging "per use" again. They are no better then drug dealers, except they get away with it.
At its finest. Citizens need no anonymity or privacy from their government, if they aren't doing anything wrong. And those that speak out and complain need to be investigated more closely as they are a threat to the stability of their government.
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Well, you do have a right to do what you want with your device ( once its paid off ) but it is their network you are asking to use, and its their rules to connect to it, regardless of what we think. Now if the blacklist disabled your device ( AT&T service not withstanding, or canceling your warranty ) then there is a problem. If it sticks with disabling your access to THEIR network, oh well.
Its their right ( but then again, its our right not to choose their service... )
China is restricting content, while this proposal is total disconnect in an emergency. while i dont like either, its not the same thing.
Don't forget industrial controllers too
And i made some decent money undoing their damage. Donno why the customer never bothered to press charges.
No, not "dissimilar", should have been "disappear"
Well, i have it now but if i so much as sneeze on my plan it will dissimilar in to the AT&T ether.. If you have to pay for data use, *and* cell minutes, what the point of voip other then security?
..Is where i personally draw the line. They should be taken out if they are truly profiting off piracy. And no, i don't mean making a buck or 2 on the side with some ad revenue on a torrent page, but true profit by selling the stuff.
It benefits the people that you pay off to change the rules. ( ie,congress/judges/attorneys )
Problem solved.
..are not always bad, but if they aren't well regulated/watched, free market goes out the window and it never turns out good for the consumer.
Or something like that.
Hasn't it already?
And i bet more do it via itunes off their PC anyway.
Then don't use it.. You have a choice, and just complaining makes you look stupid.
I don't think he is, or at least not for the reason you are eluding to.. A lot of us are not willingly giving it up, but having it forcibly taken from us with no *realistic* recourse.
Nothing to see here, move along people...
I disagree, there is a LOT to see here, and we should be fighting this nonsense, not just "moving along". Apathy is just as bad as 'its for the kids' when it comes to losing our rights and freedoms.
Well of course they are... :(
Who knows, people are having a bad day? Or perhaps they are guilty themselves? :)
I was trying to be serious, as it would be a great way to distract attention to yourself ( as the bad guy ) and take down your enemies in the process. A double win.
One would assume that the high end coders doing this stuff would be that smart.
If you go to that much trouble to frame someone via a 'code trail', you will be planting more evidence.
..or to the person they are setting up to go to jail...
Verizon has always seen their customers purely as a source of profit,
That is the case for most companies, but telecommunication providers just happen to be some of the worst, ever since the breakup.
Everyone else is doing it, so why wouldn't they? Just like the bad old days ( for those that remember it ).
I still think this was the intent all along. Make it 'free' long enough for people to start relying on having data available, introducing even more bandwidth hog services, then after it will be hard for most to back off, start charging "per use" again. They are no better then drug dealers, except they get away with it.
Why cater to the customers needs in the first place? Just screw them as much as you can.
At its finest. Citizens need no anonymity or privacy from their government, if they aren't doing anything wrong. And those that speak out and complain need to be investigated more closely as they are a threat to the stability of their government.
It still should be her ( my ) right to take those risks if she chooses to. "Pursuit of happiness" and all that.
And the fact that most people are stupid and cant fully understand what they are supporting even on a good day.