My point was that Edison was a business man first, and a poor inventor second. Who really cares about the historical impact of a business man's artifact?
That he continues to get direct credit for his employees work is dishonest.
Finding some history for a true inventor like Tesla would be far more news worthy. ( Or a host of others like Bell if you don't like Tesla, its just that Tesla got screwed by Edison so its appropriate to have used his name here )
Except for a bit of wasted storage space, is this all that big of a deal? And its android, so someone can just write an app to clear them, i would assume.
Edison was a scam artist that took credit for other peoples work. His own personal work was mediocre at best. Now, if this was a lost Tesla recording or something, THAT would be news worthy.
And ya, i expect to be modded down, but if you are objective and do some research, you will see I'm right.
The problem is that with government 'owned' devices, the taxpayers/users are part owners. This may be why it got so far in the courts before common sense prevailed.
But i agree, it really doesn't matter who you work for, if its not your device, its not your data.
Once you are asked by management that oversees that area of the company you are instantly empowered. ( perhaps not qualified, but that isn't relevant anymore in the world ).
Good for you that your direct management allows you to renegotiate salary with added responsibility, but that doesn't change what i was saying, refusal isn't an answer.
Some could argue if this is a reasonable request or not, but i would contend it is.
If you honestly believe you can refuse to do a reasonable task assigned by management and not get fired ( with zero recourse ), you are deluding yourself.
The only place that might actually be true is if you are a member of a union. Other then that, if you try telling the boss to goto hell, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Try that out in real life and you will find yourself out on the street in the unemployment line.
"Other duties as assigned" and refusal would be insubordination and lead to immediate termination.
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Its not an accurate analogy to compare locomotive mechanics and IT staff. Using a airline, and stewardesses would be closer since train mechanics don't ride with the passengers
But that said, i don't care who you are, if management says you are to monitor, then its your job. Hell, if the says 'don't worry about the servers, go mop the floor', then that is your job for the day.
In the next step, computers are used to analyse images from private bedrooms and bathrooms. After all, who needs to worry about privacy when it's only a computer watching. It's all about protecting us from the boogey man. Think of the children!
Resistance is futile. You will be monitored.
Some people do that now, and you can buy the videos on line.:)
No, its no longer online for direct examination, but its documented, as are many others. Some are still online if a little research was done, but I would assume that 3rd party documentation of a pre-existing software product would be enough for the Patent Office?
Its nice to have real tangible documentation for this beast. it looked like it has a lot of promise and is powerful out of the box, without having to spend tons of $ on a commercial product but the documentation was dismal. 9 at least all that i have found.
ETL is not cheap, and if you have a small project, pretty much unattainable.
Has oracle not screwed anyone they do business with?
No, not a simple troll. I have had dealings with them 4 times in my career ( thankfully been able to avoid them most of the time ) and they took advantage every single time.
There are several problems with this:
1 - The group being tested is predisposed to lower grades.
2 - The actual use of the home computer ( games, etc instead of work )
Guess it still holds true you can make any study say what you want, they are all lies.
My point was that Edison was a business man first, and a poor inventor second. Who really cares about the historical impact of a business man's artifact?
That he continues to get direct credit for his employees work is dishonest.
Finding some history for a true inventor like Tesla would be far more news worthy. ( Or a host of others like Bell if you don't like Tesla, its just that Tesla got screwed by Edison so its appropriate to have used his name here )
Except for a bit of wasted storage space, is this all that big of a deal? And its android, so someone can just write an app to clear them, i would assume.
Edison was a scam artist that took credit for other peoples work. His own personal work was mediocre at best. Now, if this was a lost Tesla recording or something, THAT would be news worthy.
And ya, i expect to be modded down, but if you are objective and do some research, you will see I'm right.
Execute the attorney, as hes offended me with his statements.
Technically, yes it gives them the right.
The problem is that with government 'owned' devices, the taxpayers/users are part owners. This may be why it got so far in the courts before common sense prevailed.
But i agree, it really doesn't matter who you work for, if its not your device, its not your data.
Odd brand of socks you have there.
Correct, its about monitoring the citizens even further. Expect gen 2 to report back to the government to see if you are washing too often.
Once you are asked by management that oversees that area of the company you are instantly empowered. ( perhaps not qualified, but that isn't relevant anymore in the world ).
Good for you that your direct management allows you to renegotiate salary with added responsibility, but that doesn't change what i was saying, refusal isn't an answer.
Some could argue if this is a reasonable request or not, but i would contend it is.
If you honestly believe you can refuse to do a reasonable task assigned by management and not get fired ( with zero recourse ), you are deluding yourself.
The only place that might actually be true is if you are a member of a union. Other then that, if you try telling the boss to goto hell, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Not been out of college very long have you? Refusing to do reasonable duties as requested by management will make it a short career for you.
Good luck in your next job and don't bother applying to work for me.
Try that out in real life and you will find yourself out on the street in the unemployment line.
"Other duties as assigned" and refusal would be insubordination and lead to immediate termination.
Its not an accurate analogy to compare locomotive mechanics and IT staff. Using a airline, and stewardesses would be closer since train mechanics don't ride with the passengers
But that said, i don't care who you are, if management says you are to monitor, then its your job. Hell, if the says 'don't worry about the servers, go mop the floor', then that is your job for the day.
Its your job if HR or security asks you to do it.
In the next step, computers are used to analyse images from private bedrooms and bathrooms. After all, who needs to worry about privacy when it's only a computer watching. It's all about protecting us from the boogey man. Think of the children!
Resistance is futile. You will be monitored.
Some people do that now, and you can buy the videos on line. :)
Since today's job world is so intertwined with technology, yes, its now part of the job of IT.
No, its no longer online for direct examination, but its documented, as are many others. Some are still online if a little research was done, but I would assume that 3rd party documentation of a pre-existing software product would be enough for the Patent Office?
My BBS predates this patent, and had all the stated features. ( as did many others )
How long will they be able to resist the strong arm tactics of the WTO and UN.
Its nice to have real tangible documentation for this beast. it looked like it has a lot of promise and is powerful out of the box, without having to spend tons of $ on a commercial product but the documentation was dismal. 9 at least all that i have found.
ETL is not cheap, and if you have a small project, pretty much unattainable.
Has oracle not screwed anyone they do business with?
No, not a simple troll. I have had dealings with them 4 times in my career ( thankfully been able to avoid them most of the time ) and they took advantage every single time.
What difference does it make anyway?
Personally as long as i find the content i need, i don't care what else is there.
Agreed, but things like this are just common sense, and don't require you being an expert in anything other then breathing.
So, there are very GOOD reasons for people who are doing nothing wrong to also not want the world at large to know their location.
Ok, so don't tell the public and the problem is solved. Its not a technology issue in the least, its how its being used.