How about changing that to "keep ENCRYPTED copies on your computer". Private property, no warrant, no searchie..
Encrypt all traffice so even if they can monitor traffic, all they get is garbage. And speaking of, when will all clients for *any* communication be it p2p or just instant messengers go with encryption of traffic? ( I know it doesnt stop the p2p issue of 'we see you have files shared' using a hacked client that records it for evidence, but it at least keeps the network guys out of your personal business.
How about change schools? THAT would hit them in the pocketbook.
Dropping internet service wouldn't make a dent in the schools bottomline, and besides, im sure the students need the access to get their assignments done so dropping it as a protest really isnt an option for them.
It sounds like a letter of *suspicion* from the industry is all it takes. I always thought 'innocent until proven guilty' was part of the rule of law here. ( yes, i realize this is civil and not criminal, but still, a simple letter 'we think user assigned to ipaddress xyz did something wrong' shouldn't be enough.
I didn't know email was overseen by the US Postal service.
Might be another form of fraud involved here if its true, ( which will be hard to stick on them for a *FREE* service.. ) but i really don't think you can call it *mail* fraud.
No, i don't think so. Nor is Bush 'expanding his power', as he has this constitutional authority by being president.
If taken at face value, is this a good thing to do? Perhaps.. If taken as shades of gray, is this ripe for abuse, and a potential start of a slippery slope issue? Definitely.
Perhaps its already been done, in the commercial closed source OS market.
It would be hard to hide backdoors in open source OS, though not impossible, consideirng the huge amount of code. Who can really audit it all, that you actually trust to be honest?
And to think peopel fall for this nonsence every time.
Like the old seatbelt law 'we cant use this to stop you even if we see you with out a belt on the road' but it 10 years they had seatbelt enforcement roadblocks, 'for our protection'.
So that makes it 3 years for you to have proved my point. A year ago you should have filed the complaint ( if you were part of the case that is )
Also, since apparently there were emails floating around about the matter, its legally obvous he knew about the potiental infraction.
Sure, its not always black and white, but if you can prove a person knew about it long before they acted, they lose their rights. If you cant prove it, then the 'time limit' doesnt apply, since i do agree you cant be everywhere at once and sometimes things do slip thru your knowledge.
So you can let others take the financial risk and daily hardship of building a business, so you can come along later and 'clean up'.
Ideas are cheap, hard work isnt.
Personally, if you dont speak up once you learn of an 'infringement' you lose your rights. ( And there is no way to claim you hadnt heard of facebook at somepoint in the last 4 years )
This is a good example of why i prefer the BSD style license. No nonsence, no rantings from a madman.
ya, i expect to be modded down, again, over this, but its true. Do you see any fenatical rantings from the bsd side of licensing? Its simple, and it really doesnt stifle growth or increase risk of commercialization of their work like many GPLers fear. if it did, we wouldn't have FreeBSD..
Its a choice, and once you choose GPL and accept others contributions you are pretty much stuck going down the same path.
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So its understandable that we will start enforcing our concept of morality on others right off the bat?
Remember, morality is relative.
How about changing that to "keep ENCRYPTED copies on your computer". Private property, no warrant, no searchie..
Encrypt all traffice so even if they can monitor traffic, all they get is garbage. And speaking of, when will all clients for *any* communication be it p2p or just instant messengers go with encryption of traffic? ( I know it doesnt stop the p2p issue of 'we see you have files shared' using a hacked client that records it for evidence, but it at least keeps the network guys out of your personal business.
How about change schools? THAT would hit them in the pocketbook.
Dropping internet service wouldn't make a dent in the schools bottomline, and besides, im sure the students need the access to get their assignments done so dropping it as a protest really isnt an option for them.
It doesn't sound like it.
It sounds like a letter of *suspicion* from the industry is all it takes. I always thought 'innocent until proven guilty' was part of the rule of law here. ( yes, i realize this is civil and not criminal, but still, a simple letter 'we think user assigned to ipaddress xyz did something wrong' shouldn't be enough.
Yes, the fact its now a "business" is what is ( sort of ) new here.
It also makes it all that more irritating and pathetic.
How long before someone pirates it and gives it away for free?
THAT would "show them".
Who is to define luck? By going to a state regulated ( and inspected ) gaming facility i can logically assume everything is on the up and up.
If i keep winning, i have to assume its just my day, and id be damned if i would stop while im winning.
I didn't know email was overseen by the US Postal service.
Might be another form of fraud involved here if its true, ( which will be hard to stick on them for a *FREE* service.. ) but i really don't think you can call it *mail* fraud.
You are as stupid as he.
"wahhh you are mean, im leaving" , ya right.
No, i don't think so. Nor is Bush 'expanding his power', as he has this constitutional authority by being president.
If taken at face value, is this a good thing to do? Perhaps.. If taken as shades of gray, is this ripe for abuse, and a potential start of a slippery slope issue? Definitely.
I bet not 1% of all users read the 'legalese', regardless of what OS they run.
And 1% of that group would actually understand it.
http://www.xat.nl/enigma-e/ - is an electronic *simulation*. That is no where close to 'making your own'.
I would like to be there to help out during the lynching.
You can buy optical turntables. They aren't cheap but its not just 'some guy'.
This sounds more like the old joke about photocopying your records to 'copy them'.
Yes, that is exactly what they are saying. They feel that they have permanent exclusive distribution control rights under *any* situation.
The world has gone nuts.
Perhaps its already been done, in the commercial closed source OS market.
It would be hard to hide backdoors in open source OS, though not impossible, consideirng the huge amount of code. Who can really audit it all, that you actually trust to be honest?
And to think peopel fall for this nonsence every time.
Like the old seatbelt law 'we cant use this to stop you even if we see you with out a belt on the road' but it 10 years they had seatbelt enforcement roadblocks, 'for our protection'.
Wake the hell up people and put your foot down.
I thought this was a civil case, where they talk about liability, not 'guilt or innocence'.
Need i say more?
( if you arent local, this wont mean a thing to you )
So that makes it 3 years for you to have proved my point. A year ago you should have filed the complaint ( if you were part of the case that is )
Also, since apparently there were emails floating around about the matter, its legally obvous he knew about the potiental infraction.
Sure, its not always black and white, but if you can prove a person knew about it long before they acted, they lose their rights. If you cant prove it, then the 'time limit' doesnt apply, since i do agree you cant be everywhere at once and sometimes things do slip thru your knowledge.
So you can let others take the financial risk and daily hardship of building a business, so you can come along later and 'clean up'.
Ideas are cheap, hard work isnt.
Personally, if you dont speak up once you learn of an 'infringement' you lose your rights. ( And there is no way to claim you hadnt heard of facebook at somepoint in the last 4 years )
This is a good example of why i prefer the BSD style license. No nonsence, no rantings from a madman.
ya, i expect to be modded down, again, over this, but its true. Do you see any fenatical rantings from the bsd side of licensing? Its simple, and it really doesnt stifle growth or increase risk of commercialization of their work like many GPLers fear. if it did, we wouldn't have FreeBSD..
Its a choice, and once you choose GPL and accept others contributions you are pretty much stuck going down the same path.
Over my dead body... errr dead ipod.. errr cold dead fingers... you get the idea ...
Because if you are licensed, you pay a tax/fee too..