Take the kid too. A good, hard working, white boy will sell for $2000 on the black market. I don't want to steal an old ladies purse. What the hell am I going to do with $1.54 in loose change, a time card for bingo at the VFW, a handful of tissues, and three lint covered mints? Go as Bea Authur in the next drag-queen parade?
If you go after the walking game, you get the game, controler, screen, etc... Plus, it is already outside of the store, so a quick get-a-way is much easier.
Depending on what you want the site to do, it may not be that easy. I am sure that a site that is just getting out information would be easy, but a site that 'needs' to have all the bells and whistles, would be rather hard.
I think coding for ALL browsers would be rather hard. For whatever reason, web-designers have come to the conclusion that their sites have to have all the latest bells and whistles. They want to be sure that people get all the bells and whistles, so they code for the browser that most of the people use: IE.
The part that IDT wants to buy is one of the two parts of the company that makes $ (UUnet being the second), I don't think they would sell it. Plus, IDT only has 1.2B in cash.
Since your "abuse" department is far too busy to get around to dealing with spammers in violation of your TOS, I question your data about user block complaints. I take the calls, you don't. I know everyone in nanae doesn't want to hear it, but it is the truth. When SPEWS listed all those class 'A' networks, how many people who were 'collateral dammage' posted in nanae about the listing? 4? 5? Honestly, if you are in a blocklist that noone uses, are you really blocked?
(This assumes that you actually do work for a tier 1 provider, and aren't just trolling. [Hope it's not Worldcom/MCI/UUNET!] *sniff*sniff*, you've posted to nanae before, I recognize that scent.) Shrug. You must be smelling yourself.:) I have never posted in there. No one from here has posted there in years. None of the Tier1 providers takes you guys seriously. I have talks with the abuse departments at other tier1s and they all think you all (tinya) are kooks and zealots.
There are two types of calls that I love to take: Spammer Kook calls and Anti-Spammer Kook calls. The spammer kooks will ramble on about the anti-spam conspiracy and the anti-spam kooks will ramble on about the spam conspiracy.
So, when will you all just up and block all the evil tier1 providers? Have you at least blocked WorldCom/UUnet? Please, for the sake of everyone's sanity: either shit or get off the pot.
I've watched the kooks in nanae carry on about blocking us for years. Three to 4 times a year some one runs in shouts "$Tier_1_provider has gone rogue! Someone should null route them!" Then all the other kooks huddle around and say: "Yeah, someone should do that." and "Boy, won't it be cool when they get null routed", but no one ever does anything.
We aren't worried about black lists either. Spambag has had us listed for a year. There was only one customer who ever complained and that was because she could not reach Sam's homepage. She decided to use a different MTA then the one Sam was offering. When SPEWS 'goofed' and listed 60+ Class 'A' networks for a day, we got ZERO calls about the block. The only DNSbl that caused us any worries was MAPS, they generated a dozen calls when a mailserver was listed.
Most of our customers understand that the blacklists are not well run and the info with in them are inaccurate. They call the ISP that is blocking them and explain the situation and those ISP either whitelist them or stop using the black list.
Several ISPs, such as Verio, UUNET, Qwest, etc. host many spammers, and are willfully ignorant WRT the activities of the spammers - they do a fine Sgt. Schultz "I know NOTHING, NOTHING" when confronted with the evidence. The abuse departments at these companies handle more then spam. They handle child porn, death threats, suicide threats, bomb threats, hacking, DoS attacks, issues with LEOs, and spam. Spam is the least critical issue. I am sorry, but a missing 12 year old girl has priority over your penis enlargement spam.
Second, if you get a spam from a server hosted by one of these ISPs, you use www.bitch-list.net to turn the crapflood back on the ISP - make it cost them more in support calls than the spammer is paying them. Uh huh... I work for one of the evil companies you have listed and people wh odo this get blacklisted. Bombing us only forces me to have to go an clean up the mess you made, that is less time I have to spend on spam and other abuse issues.
Third, if any of you HAVE servers hosted by these ISPs and you ever get shut down for TOS violations, you sue the ISP, claiming discrimination - "They didn't TOS these spammers, why are the TOSing me?" I've TOSsed more T1 then most ISP have to start with. Every spammer gets it in the end.
Make it cost the ISPs more to host the spammers than the spammers pay, and they will drop the spammers. Remember, both Verio and Worldcom/UUNET are hurting for money right now - pink contracts must look pretty good to them ("See, the spammers will pay DOUBLE for bandwidth!"). Turn the pink contracts into red ink, and they will cease. I can't speak for others, but there has never been a pink contract here. I know all the kooks in NANAE will claim otherwise, but none of them can ever produce one.
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You have obviously never been to a ham-fest. The chicks there just meet the base requirements for being women, they have vaginas and walk up-right. But they are ass-ugly. That is only to be expected when you have a group of nerds waddling around talking on their wireless to a guy standing 10 feet from him.
Take the kid too. A good, hard working, white boy will sell for $2000 on the black market. I don't want to steal an old ladies purse. What the hell am I going to do with $1.54 in loose change, a time card for bingo at the VFW, a handful of tissues, and three lint covered mints? Go as Bea Authur in the next drag-queen parade?
Invade Nebraska? Now you are just being silly... :)
If you go after the walking game, you get the game, controler, screen, etc... Plus, it is already outside of the store, so a quick get-a-way is much easier.
Well, if you believe this story they might have to wire some of those brains up in series/parallel :)
How long until some kids beat this guys ass and take the game? My bet is for less than a week.
Depending on what you want the site to do, it may not be that easy. I am sure that a site that is just getting out information would be easy, but a site that 'needs' to have all the bells and whistles, would be rather hard.
I think coding for ALL browsers would be rather hard. For whatever reason, web-designers have come to the conclusion that their sites have to have all the latest bells and whistles. They want to be sure that people get all the bells and whistles, so they code for the browser that most of the people use: IE.
And people design sites inorder to get the most users. That means having to code for IE. It sucks. But, all you can do is just not visit that site.
The part that IDT wants to buy is one of the two parts of the company that makes $ (UUnet being the second), I don't think they would sell it. Plus, IDT only has 1.2B in cash.
I take the calls, you don't. I know everyone in nanae doesn't want to hear it, but it is the truth. When SPEWS listed all those class 'A' networks, how many people who were 'collateral dammage' posted in nanae about the listing? 4? 5? Honestly, if you are in a blocklist that noone uses, are you really blocked?
(This assumes that you actually do work for a tier 1 provider, and aren't just trolling. [Hope it's not Worldcom/MCI/UUNET!] *sniff*sniff*, you've posted to nanae before, I recognize that scent.) :) I have never posted in there. No one from here has posted there in years. None of the Tier1 providers takes you guys seriously. I have talks with the abuse departments at other tier1s and they all think you all (tinya) are kooks and zealots.
Shrug. You must be smelling yourself.
There are two types of calls that I love to take: Spammer Kook calls and Anti-Spammer Kook calls. The spammer kooks will ramble on about the anti-spam conspiracy and the anti-spam kooks will ramble on about the spam conspiracy.
So, when will you all just up and block all the evil tier1 providers? Have you at least blocked WorldCom/UUnet? Please, for the sake of everyone's sanity: either shit or get off the pot.
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We aren't worried about black lists either. Spambag has had us listed for a year. There was only one customer who ever complained and that was because she could not reach Sam's homepage. She decided to use a different MTA then the one Sam was offering. When SPEWS 'goofed' and listed 60+ Class 'A' networks for a day, we got ZERO calls about the block. The only DNSbl that caused us any worries was MAPS, they generated a dozen calls when a mailserver was listed.
Most of our customers understand that the blacklists are not well run and the info with in them are inaccurate. They call the ISP that is blocking them and explain the situation and those ISP either whitelist them or stop using the black list.
I'd guess that he wants it to cost $50 as well.
The abuse departments at these companies handle more then spam. They handle child porn, death threats, suicide threats, bomb threats, hacking, DoS attacks, issues with LEOs, and spam. Spam is the least critical issue. I am sorry, but a missing 12 year old girl has priority over your penis enlargement spam.
Second, if you get a spam from a server hosted by one of these ISPs, you use www.bitch-list.net to turn the crapflood back on the ISP - make it cost them more in support calls than the spammer is paying them.
Uh huh... I work for one of the evil companies you have listed and people wh odo this get blacklisted. Bombing us only forces me to have to go an clean up the mess you made, that is less time I have to spend on spam and other abuse issues.
Third, if any of you HAVE servers hosted by these ISPs and you ever get shut down for TOS violations, you sue the ISP, claiming discrimination - "They didn't TOS these spammers, why are the TOSing me?"
I've TOSsed more T1 then most ISP have to start with. Every spammer gets it in the end.
Make it cost the ISPs more to host the spammers than the spammers pay, and they will drop the spammers. Remember, both Verio and Worldcom/UUNET are hurting for money right now - pink contracts must look pretty good to them ("See, the spammers will pay DOUBLE for bandwidth!"). Turn the pink contracts into red ink, and they will cease.
I can't speak for others, but there has never been a pink contract here. I know all the kooks in NANAE will claim otherwise, but none of them can ever produce one.
Same here! BSD and Solaris guys have to hire assistants to fuck all the tail that gets thrown their way. How can you NOT get laid?
I want a DNA test before I believe that. :)
I hear that if you run Linux, you never have sex. :)
There are ads on the web? With all my anti-ad stuff, I never see one.
Ha! Yeah. I guess I can see that. :)
How much did you pay Slashdot to place that ad at the bottom of your review?
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I couldn't tell you based on the color either, what is your point?
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You have obviously never been to a ham-fest. The chicks there just meet the base requirements for being women, they have vaginas and walk up-right. But they are ass-ugly. That is only to be expected when you have a group of nerds waddling around talking on their wireless to a guy standing 10 feet from him.