Actually, Motorola is pretty weary of the desktop market. They really have little interest, outside of what leverage Apple can apply, in competing in that area. When Apple killed the cloners, they killed Motorola's solid market for PPC chips.
Motorola would just as soon get back to what they do best, which is produce chips for the embedded market. Apple is just a distraction.
So you're telling me that all I need to do to double my paycheck is switch to a Mac?
Hahahahahah! Hahahahah! You're rich!
Actually, the successful company deploys the best value hardware to their important professionals. That almost always means Intel-based machines. Not that it matters, that class of professional runs 'Office' not an OS. And MS Office runs on Mac and it runs on Windows.
What? Linux? Don't fool yourself. You're the one who is talking about the People whose time is worthy money.
So, basically, you're fighting a Mac versus Windows fight here. This is all off topic.
I find it appalling that people are now referring to Apple as an 'open source company.' They have 'opened the source' to the lowest layer of MacOS 10, and a small number of token products.
Apple Computer is historically one of the most closed companies in the PC market. That hasn't changed. The only thing that has changed is that they almost shut down because they couldn't put out the Next Generation OS they needed without borrowing one from Open Source to lay their proprietary closed layer onto.
On the general issue of Free Documentation, it strikes me that one of the carrots used to tempt software developers to release their code as OS was that they would get their renumeration from other means, i.e. support and documentation. Now we're saying 'give us the docs for free too.'
That's a real problem. I guess we're all supposed to get endowments at MIT to pay the rent for our sleeping rooms off campus.
Unix is even a secure OS these days. That's happened in the last ten years, before which Unix was a silly joke to anybody who wanted a secure OS.
So Unix continues to evolve to meet the needs of a sector of the OS market. I like it for certain purposes, there's a NetBSD and a Slackware box down in my basement that run 24/7. I wouldn't be without them.
I'm sure as heck glad there are alternatives, though. My preferred Window Manager is Exceed, in case it wasn't clear.
In other words, it got you angry and you strongly disagreed with it. So it was bound to elicit either an angry response or 'this is just a troll' from you, depending on wether you had a good arguement, were lazy that particular day, etc. etc.
Actually, Linux is an interesting kernel project, upon which quite a variety of OSes have been hung (slung? draped loosely?). These OSes include Red Hat, Debian, Caldera, Mandrake, etc. etc. which are all Operating Systems based on the Linux kernel not 'Linux'.
BSD isn't "real" Unix, as it's not accredited. It just has a deeper heritage and in general more uniformity than a lot of the stuff packed onto a 'distribution' and called 'Linux.'
I have these nice ATX cases. When I can buy a nice ATX PPC motherboard, preferrably one that isn't solely-sourced from Apple, I will consider putting MacOS 10.1 (the marketing people refer to it as OS X because 'X' seems to be the chic label to throw around these days) on one of my boxes.
Until then, the hell with Apple's proprietary single-sourced hardware, and the OS that's tightly bound to it.
Actually, you can buy GNU tools direct from Microsoft. They purchased Softway Systems about a year ago so the Interix POSIX subsystem is now a Microsoft product sold direct by MS. That means, yes, that you can buy an entire POSIX (certified POSIX, not kinda-POSIX) from Microsoft, one that includes the GNU C compiler and most of the GNU toolchain. It runs alongside all the other subsystems (Win32, Win16, OS/2) and thus isn't a kludge that rides on top of Win32 and relies on a DLL the way Cygwin does. IOW the Interix POSIX subsystem talks directly to the NT kernel layer.
Who'd have thought Microsoft would be selling GCC for NT? They do.
It's a shame there isn't a 'Phillip-Morris' website similar to Slashdot. Then we could witness the wail and sputter and fuming every time Phillip-Morris moved into a new market place. Hell, it makes me smile to think of all the ranting that would have occured when they bought Kraft. 'Waah waaah! Macaroni and Chesse will have a BSOD from now on!'
As you say, DVD players have recently become cheap. Before too much longer the players will be $50 items used to play $30 movies. It won't be long before they're so cheap they're practically given away.
It has to infuriate the people who thought 'we cracked the DVD encryption, it's all free forever now' to realize the target is about to start moving.
What kills the standard is when the standards body mopes around taking so long to establish the standard.
Also an issue is when, as is almost always the case, they charge $400 for a printed copy of the standard. Because 'it's so expensive to come up with standards' as I am sure the ANSI people are eager to tell us.
Standards should all be published openly online. ALL of them. It shouldn't be a rich-man-club that can afford to read them.
Until that day, interests like Microsoft will always be able to pre-empt 'standards' with things that become the defacto standard.
Option five, since it's pretty clear by the URL that the law student posted that he goes to Rutgers, and what his name is, is to write to his deparment head about what he's done here on Slashdot.
Maybe he'll wish he paid attention to that ethics lecture.
But, gee, since it's Linux, I don't think those things are real concerns, do you?
Sure it's a concern.
My brother in law installed Red Hat 5.1 last week.
I told him I would make him copies of the Slackware 8.0 CDs that I just bought on CheapBytes. Hell, I told him I have two or three generations newer Red Hat CDs he could use.
He's stubborn. He has that nice book that came with Red Hat 5.1. He installed Red Hat 5.1.
I am sure there are hundreds and thousands of other people running outdated Linux distros as well. They're using the CD that came in the cover of that book.
Slashdot Mirror
No, the AMD acronym has to somehow have the M stand for Marketing. Magabytes, possibly, with the Ma standing for Marketing hype?
Actually, Motorola is pretty weary of the desktop market. They really have little interest, outside of what leverage Apple can apply, in competing in that area. When Apple killed the cloners, they killed Motorola's solid market for PPC chips.
Motorola would just as soon get back to what they do best, which is produce chips for the embedded market. Apple is just a distraction.
'Education and publishing' aren't server markets.
Or are you talking about a print server at Kinkos?
I'd say a Mac is adequate for that, if a bit silly.
Sorry, I just don't see a strong Apple presence in the server market. Unless we start playing around with words and their meaning.
So you're telling me that all I need to do to double my paycheck is switch to a Mac?
Hahahahahah! Hahahahah! You're rich!
Actually, the successful company deploys the best value hardware to their important professionals. That almost always means Intel-based machines. Not that it matters, that class of professional runs 'Office' not an OS. And MS Office runs on Mac and it runs on Windows.
What? Linux? Don't fool yourself. You're the one who is talking about the People whose time is worthy money.
So, basically, you're fighting a Mac versus Windows fight here. This is all off topic.
I find it appalling that people are now referring to Apple as an 'open source company.' They have 'opened the source' to the lowest layer of MacOS 10, and a small number of token products.
Apple Computer is historically one of the most closed companies in the PC market. That hasn't changed. The only thing that has changed is that they almost shut down because they couldn't put out the Next Generation OS they needed without borrowing one from Open Source to lay their proprietary closed layer onto.
On the general issue of Free Documentation, it strikes me that one of the carrots used to tempt software developers to release their code as OS was that they would get their renumeration from other means, i.e. support and documentation. Now we're saying 'give us the docs for free too.'
That's a real problem. I guess we're all supposed to get endowments at MIT to pay the rent for our sleeping rooms off campus.
You're right, you know.
Unix is even a secure OS these days. That's happened in the last ten years, before which Unix was a silly joke to anybody who wanted a secure OS.
So Unix continues to evolve to meet the needs of a sector of the OS market. I like it for certain purposes, there's a NetBSD and a Slackware box down in my basement that run 24/7. I wouldn't be without them.
I'm sure as heck glad there are alternatives, though. My preferred Window Manager is Exceed, in case it wasn't clear.
Naw.
Everybody clicks on the link at Slashdot, sees that the site is broken, and leaves. One connection per slashdot reader ain't gonna break the host.
When the tools are free, obviously a lot of 'power users' will latch on and put up a site using them.
Not a reflection on the tools, though it is a reflection on what 'league' said tools play on.
Not hardly. The source code was ASCII text. The rendering engine is still the most powerful one known.
Of course, with kids these days, the firmware seems to have deteriorated.
In other words, it got you angry and you strongly disagreed with it. So it was bound to elicit either an angry response or 'this is just a troll' from you, depending on wether you had a good arguement, were lazy that particular day, etc. etc.
But now I have been trolled by your remark. Damn.
It means nobody gives a damn.
Actually, Linux is an interesting kernel project, upon which quite a variety of OSes have been hung (slung? draped loosely?). These OSes include Red Hat, Debian, Caldera, Mandrake, etc. etc. which are all Operating Systems based on the Linux kernel not 'Linux'.
BSD isn't "real" Unix, as it's not accredited. It just has a deeper heritage and in general more uniformity than a lot of the stuff packed onto a 'distribution' and called 'Linux.'
Yes. That's it in a nutshell.
I have these nice ATX cases. When I can buy a nice ATX PPC motherboard, preferrably one that isn't solely-sourced from Apple, I will consider putting MacOS 10.1 (the marketing people refer to it as OS X because 'X' seems to be the chic label to throw around these days) on one of my boxes.
Until then, the hell with Apple's proprietary single-sourced hardware, and the OS that's tightly bound to it.
No, it means they had no choice but to release them back to the public.
IOW it was no different than Microsoft publishing the source to the stuff in Interix. (which they've done)
Actually, you can buy GNU tools direct from Microsoft. They purchased Softway Systems about a year ago so the Interix POSIX subsystem is now a Microsoft product sold direct by MS. That means, yes, that you can buy an entire POSIX (certified POSIX, not kinda-POSIX) from Microsoft, one that includes the GNU C compiler and most of the GNU toolchain. It runs alongside all the other subsystems (Win32, Win16, OS/2) and thus isn't a kludge that rides on top of Win32 and relies on a DLL the way Cygwin does. IOW the Interix POSIX subsystem talks directly to the NT kernel layer.
Who'd have thought Microsoft would be selling GCC for NT? They do.
Look up the word 'academic' in your dictionary.
Come on. I know you can do it...
It's a shame there isn't a 'Phillip-Morris' website similar to Slashdot. Then we could witness the wail and sputter and fuming every time Phillip-Morris moved into a new market place. Hell, it makes me smile to think of all the ranting that would have occured when they bought Kraft. 'Waah waaah! Macaroni and Chesse will have a BSOD from now on!'
Tools.
Divx failed in the marketplace.
Because consumers didn't like it.
Not because of a boycott and little ribbons on web pages, or whatever.
As you say, DVD players have recently become cheap. Before too much longer the players will be $50 items used to play $30 movies. It won't be long before they're so cheap they're practically given away.
It has to infuriate the people who thought 'we cracked the DVD encryption, it's all free forever now' to realize the target is about to start moving.
What kills the standard is when the standards body mopes around taking so long to establish the standard.
Also an issue is when, as is almost always the case, they charge $400 for a printed copy of the standard. Because 'it's so expensive to come up with standards' as I am sure the ANSI people are eager to tell us.
Standards should all be published openly online. ALL of them. It shouldn't be a rich-man-club that can afford to read them.
Until that day, interests like Microsoft will always be able to pre-empt 'standards' with things that become the defacto standard.
And what will Apple do about it?
What's their market share again? Maybe 5% in a good sales month?
This sounds to me just like the GM/Ford cases at the 60's about negleting consumers. Isn't time to DOJ put a period on all these things?
Actually, in the instances you use as an example it was Honda, Toyota, etc. who 'put a period on all these things.'
So there you have it. Step up to the plate, competitors.
Option five, since it's pretty clear by the URL that the law student posted that he goes to Rutgers, and what his name is, is to write to his deparment head about what he's done here on Slashdot.
Maybe he'll wish he paid attention to that ethics lecture.
But, gee, since it's Linux, I don't think those things are real concerns, do you?
Sure it's a concern.
My brother in law installed Red Hat 5.1 last week.
I told him I would make him copies of the Slackware 8.0 CDs that I just bought on CheapBytes. Hell, I told him I have two or three generations newer Red Hat CDs he could use.
He's stubborn. He has that nice book that came with Red Hat 5.1. He installed Red Hat 5.1.
I am sure there are hundreds and thousands of other people running outdated Linux distros as well. They're using the CD that came in the cover of that book.
It happens. A lot.
Get a clue, dude.
I'm afraid you'll have to cite an instance where this has happened.
This whole discussion is extremely hypothetical.
You folks discredit yourselves by playing pretend-vulnerability when you don't have evidence to back up your claims.