It has everything to do with linux. Linux may just be the os kernel, but the fact that people can't do everything they want to in linux that they can in Windows/Mac is exactly what will keep them from using Linux. So even though it may not be the fault of the Linux/Open Source community, it's definetly their problem.
The AP Computer Science test is only there to help you get college credits early on. It's not meant to help you get a job, it's there to get you through college faster, skipping the most basic CS classes that would bore you out of your mind.
Bah! I am just a citizen of the United States, I vote and do what any normal citizen would do so. As for the rest of your none-sense. No, I never said that bnetd WANTED piracy. But it IS one of the things they encouraged un-intentionally. Although they never tried to cause piracy and such, it is their work and program that did. It's like leaving a gun in a park and being shocked that someone took it and used it to kill someone. As for your "war", Blizzard makes their games, and yes Blizzard has every right to decide what you can do with them. This is exactly why they do their best to crack down on cheats and other hacks and in the end bnetd has turned out to be about that much, a hack. I don't doubt or question the skill of the coders, but they probably could've put that talent to real gaming use instead of creating an alternative server for proprietary software. Blizzard's games are made to only connect to battle.net, not another server nor software. Letting it do otherwise only accomplishes getting to circumvent piracy. This is a capitalistic country, money is what counts, not absoloute freedom to do whatever you want. Your war is only to interphere with a company trying to make money.
Samba only exists to let other clients connect with windows clients. You're comparing an open protocol, to cracking a company's hard work and making it so that you don't have to buy their games thus in the end harming their sales. Bullshit.
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Yes, yes, and when you use samba you're able to run Windows copies easily, right? The problem with bnet is that there was not CD check, THAT'S why Blizzard sued. And yes, being a tool to circumvent copy protection IS illegal.
What's disgusting is seeing someone get that rude over a game. He openly admits that he likes a game, wants to play it, and doesn't care about the suit. So fucking what? He's got the balls to admit what he wants. You however, have only demonstrated that you're a part of an open source clique that's full of shit. And comparing Blizzard to the Vietnam War? My grandfather DIED over there. This isn't a god damn war. It's a company trying to prevent people from pirating their games. So fucking what? I want to make money too. That's not selling your soul, it's being human. And if you don't learn to do it, you won't be around for very long.
I will definitely buy it regardless of any lawsuit
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I am a big fan of all of Blizzard's games. In my opinion they are one of the few really great game companies left that haven't been bought out or turned into nothing more than a publisher. All of their games have been fun to play, as well as having lavish details everywhere from design to story. Have you ever read the manuals to their games? Each gives you a rather rich backstory as to the situation and world in the game. I very much look forward to Warcraft 3.
As for the lawsuit. The only really effective form of anti-piracy I know of today is to have a serial code for each gamer, and without a unique one they can't play multiplayer online. This has been blizzard's strategy with almost all of their battle.net games. They are NOT suing just because someone wants to make an open source battle.net; they are suing because someone wants to make a way to by-pass one of the few things they have out to prevent piracy. Blizzard's had a lot of money troubles in the past and as per result even had to cancel some projects I was really looking forward to. Piracy is a problem in the entire gaming industry, it's one of the reasons it's not very profitable anymore. Blizzard's suing because they're scarred, and I think they have every right to protect themselves because I want to see great new games a hell of a lot more than just some open source project that isn't needed survive.
Slashdot is primarily a news site, which should try to be as unbiased as possible in that which it reports to the world, they shouldn't ignore something just because some people might not like it. That's censorship - which the news is supposed to oppose above all else.
Almost all of Blizzard's games have had a well woven story line within them. Just because you played War2 doesn't mean that's why the world did. I for one loved the story revolving around War and War2 as well as Starcraft and Diablo. One of the reasons I play RPGs in the first place is for a great story and Blizzard is one of the few companies willing to give me that in other genres as well, which I for one love.
nVidia's drivers for your Voodoo? Interesting. I guess your intelligence wasn't on when you replied to this. I suggest hitting that switch by the cob-webs in your head.
I've seen many flame wars over how X sucks and it needs to die, and all the counters, the primary being X works here and now why change?
I personally don't care for using X much, but I don't advocate it's death. My question is why others are so hostile towards projects that seek to try to make something better. ANYTHING can be done better, especially after ten years. And I'm not saying people should abandon X at all, but I don't see the point in harassing the projects that seek to make their own windowing environment. I keep seeing people complain about lack of support and such and they need to remember that when XFree86 was younger it didn't have much support either. Why are so many people opposed to giving new ideas a chance? I thought the entire point of a GPL community was so that new ideas can grow in the first place?
Did they happen to consider atleast also in IE's case that they Windows and Mac ones are NOT the same. I find myself doubting how much of the rendering engine is even the same. They both seem to behave rather differently and the interface is very different. The Mac IE even uses Netscape's html bookmark format. It is slow on some complicated pages, the like that slashdot forums end up being, but it's also one of the best browsers I've used. I guess MS's Mac department is actually talented.
Same here, I'm running on a new iMac G4 800 with just 256mb of ram and this doesn't seem much slower than Windows or Linux (With a desktop environment such as KDE or Gnome, not just a windowmanager). The UI is slower than I'm used to, but only thanks to my BeOS roots. TheUI is still pretty and I typically only have delays when I'm running a lot at once, but I plan to get a memory upgrade eventually.
How is open source only freedom? Freedom is having a choice. If you provide a choice then you're certainly aiding freedom. Microsoft doesn't hinder freedom because they are closed source, but because they attempt to force consumers to follow in their plans/software. Just like people like you.
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Well to be perfectly honest, that's basically what BlueOS is. It's implementing many aspects of BeOS onto a linux essentially. However, I personally feel that type of parasitic outlook, although not entirely bad, is pointless in this case. A lot of the good in BeOS came from the fact that it was a fresh start, not an afterthought.
I was not trying to point out that LP itself was showing that, but that having even a gag like that ( I realize it was meant as humor and who hasn't laughed at OS/2, Amiga, etc. jokes before.. even if we like the OSes ) could definetly give the wrong impression to people. I didn't really find it offensive myself, but I could easily see others taking it so; and above all it was really pointless imo.
Having a beating the dead horse cateogory and OS/2 being downed was rather low in my opinion. I know a lot of Linux users that hate being a part of the rabid group that hate any form of commercial software and shun any operating system that's commericial or even not Linux. OS/2 was never a bad operating system and having a portion like that only promotes the idea that "Linux Freaks" are zealots.
So does MacOS HFS. As the Mac users will attest, one of the great features of not having a flat-file file system is that you have to be really careful transferring your files onto
other systems, or they'll break.
User level attributes, not a simple reasource fork. BeOS attibutes did system level things like mimetypes and icons, but also whatever the user/developer wanted for efficient data storage. You can read about impressive examples of this usage regarding everything from email and bookmarks to mp3 collections.
Yah, maybe, could be. But to do what?
Well it helps with one of the most efficient multitasking setups I've encountered ( there's no busy cursor for a reason ), and the best use of multiple processors, all apps gaining near 100% in performance.
Designed for today's desktop needs? BeOS? The OS that couldn't print? Perhaps there was a window between 1995 and 1998 where BeOS might have fit in. But compared to NT4
and Linux it simply did not have that much to offer.
Couldn't print? Not much to offer? BeOS may not have the best printing scheme, but it does work. As for not having modern features; the attribute based file system offers many features for many users; and I for one believe that any user exposed to it; even simple ones, would learn to make great use of it. Let's also not forget that BeOS has the best SMP implementation out of any O/S I've seen out there.
That's the kind of attitude that gives kids on computers a bad name. And yes I'm calling you a kid, if you tell me you're any older than 18 you're not making yourself look any better. Waiting until companies die to try, and get full versions of their software is just as bad as pirating in the first place; and a testament to why the computer gaming industry is crippled.
I couldn't disagree more. BeOS is far from hard to program for. The API's are relatively simple, in fact BeOS is one of the only O/Ses you can read people calling a joy to code for. How much do you even know about it?
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It has everything to do with linux. Linux may just be the os kernel, but the fact that people can't do everything they want to in linux that they can in Windows/Mac is exactly what will keep them from using Linux. So even though it may not be the fault of the Linux/Open Source community, it's definetly their problem.
The AP Computer Science test is only there to help you get college credits early on. It's not meant to help you get a job, it's there to get you through college faster, skipping the most basic CS classes that would bore you out of your mind.
Bah! I am just a citizen of the United States, I vote and do what any normal citizen would do so. As for the rest of your none-sense. No, I never said that bnetd WANTED piracy. But it IS one of the things they encouraged un-intentionally. Although they never tried to cause piracy and such, it is their work and program that did. It's like leaving a gun in a park and being shocked that someone took it and used it to kill someone. As for your "war", Blizzard makes their games, and yes Blizzard has every right to decide what you can do with them. This is exactly why they do their best to crack down on cheats and other hacks and in the end bnetd has turned out to be about that much, a hack. I don't doubt or question the skill of the coders, but they probably could've put that talent to real gaming use instead of creating an alternative server for proprietary software. Blizzard's games are made to only connect to battle.net, not another server nor software. Letting it do otherwise only accomplishes getting to circumvent piracy. This is a capitalistic country, money is what counts, not absoloute freedom to do whatever you want. Your war is only to interphere with a company trying to make money.
Samba only exists to let other clients connect with windows clients. You're comparing an open protocol, to cracking a company's hard work and making it so that you don't have to buy their games thus in the end harming their sales. Bullshit.
Yes, yes, and when you use samba you're able to run Windows copies easily, right? The problem with bnet is that there was not CD check, THAT'S why Blizzard sued. And yes, being a tool to circumvent copy protection IS illegal.
What's disgusting is seeing someone get that rude over a game. He openly admits that he likes a game, wants to play it, and doesn't care about the suit. So fucking what? He's got the balls to admit what he wants. You however, have only demonstrated that you're a part of an open source clique that's full of shit. And comparing Blizzard to the Vietnam War? My grandfather DIED over there. This isn't a god damn war. It's a company trying to prevent people from pirating their games. So fucking what? I want to make money too. That's not selling your soul, it's being human. And if you don't learn to do it, you won't be around for very long.
Amen..
I am a big fan of all of Blizzard's games. In my opinion they are one of the few really great game companies left that haven't been bought out or turned into nothing more than a publisher. All of their games have been fun to play, as well as having lavish details everywhere from design to story. Have you ever read the manuals to their games? Each gives you a rather rich backstory as to the situation and world in the game. I very much look forward to Warcraft 3. As for the lawsuit. The only really effective form of anti-piracy I know of today is to have a serial code for each gamer, and without a unique one they can't play multiplayer online. This has been blizzard's strategy with almost all of their battle.net games. They are NOT suing just because someone wants to make an open source battle.net; they are suing because someone wants to make a way to by-pass one of the few things they have out to prevent piracy. Blizzard's had a lot of money troubles in the past and as per result even had to cancel some projects I was really looking forward to. Piracy is a problem in the entire gaming industry, it's one of the reasons it's not very profitable anymore. Blizzard's suing because they're scarred, and I think they have every right to protect themselves because I want to see great new games a hell of a lot more than just some open source project that isn't needed survive.
Slashdot is primarily a news site, which should try to be as unbiased as possible in that which it reports to the world, they shouldn't ignore something just because some people might not like it. That's censorship - which the news is supposed to oppose above all else.
Almost all of Blizzard's games have had a well woven story line within them. Just because you played War2 doesn't mean that's why the world did. I for one loved the story revolving around War and War2 as well as Starcraft and Diablo. One of the reasons I play RPGs in the first place is for a great story and Blizzard is one of the few companies willing to give me that in other genres as well, which I for one love.
nVidia's drivers for your Voodoo? Interesting. I guess your intelligence wasn't on when you replied to this. I suggest hitting that switch by the cob-webs in your head.
I've seen many flame wars over how X sucks and it needs to die, and all the counters, the primary being X works here and now why change? I personally don't care for using X much, but I don't advocate it's death. My question is why others are so hostile towards projects that seek to try to make something better. ANYTHING can be done better, especially after ten years. And I'm not saying people should abandon X at all, but I don't see the point in harassing the projects that seek to make their own windowing environment. I keep seeing people complain about lack of support and such and they need to remember that when XFree86 was younger it didn't have much support either. Why are so many people opposed to giving new ideas a chance? I thought the entire point of a GPL community was so that new ideas can grow in the first place?
Did they happen to consider atleast also in IE's case that they Windows and Mac ones are NOT the same. I find myself doubting how much of the rendering engine is even the same. They both seem to behave rather differently and the interface is very different. The Mac IE even uses Netscape's html bookmark format. It is slow on some complicated pages, the like that slashdot forums end up being, but it's also one of the best browsers I've used. I guess MS's Mac department is actually talented.
Same here, I'm running on a new iMac G4 800 with just 256mb of ram and this doesn't seem much slower than Windows or Linux (With a desktop environment such as KDE or Gnome, not just a windowmanager). The UI is slower than I'm used to, but only thanks to my BeOS roots. TheUI is still pretty and I typically only have delays when I'm running a lot at once, but I plan to get a memory upgrade eventually.
How is open source only freedom? Freedom is having a choice. If you provide a choice then you're certainly aiding freedom. Microsoft doesn't hinder freedom because they are closed source, but because they attempt to force consumers to follow in their plans/software. Just like people like you.
Well to be perfectly honest, that's basically what BlueOS is. It's implementing many aspects of BeOS onto a linux essentially. However, I personally feel that type of parasitic outlook, although not entirely bad, is pointless in this case. A lot of the good in BeOS came from the fact that it was a fresh start, not an afterthought.
I was not trying to point out that LP itself was showing that, but that having even a gag like that ( I realize it was meant as humor and who hasn't laughed at OS/2, Amiga, etc. jokes before.. even if we like the OSes ) could definetly give the wrong impression to people. I didn't really find it offensive myself, but I could easily see others taking it so; and above all it was really pointless imo.
Having a beating the dead horse cateogory and OS/2 being downed was rather low in my opinion. I know a lot of Linux users that hate being a part of the rabid group that hate any form of commercial software and shun any operating system that's commericial or even not Linux. OS/2 was never a bad operating system and having a portion like that only promotes the idea that "Linux Freaks" are zealots.
So does MacOS HFS. As the Mac users will attest, one of the great features of not having a flat-file file system is that you have to be really careful transferring your files onto other systems, or they'll break. User level attributes, not a simple reasource fork. BeOS attibutes did system level things like mimetypes and icons, but also whatever the user/developer wanted for efficient data storage. You can read about impressive examples of this usage regarding everything from email and bookmarks to mp3 collections. Yah, maybe, could be. But to do what? Well it helps with one of the most efficient multitasking setups I've encountered ( there's no busy cursor for a reason ), and the best use of multiple processors, all apps gaining near 100% in performance.
Designed for today's desktop needs? BeOS? The OS that couldn't print? Perhaps there was a window between 1995 and 1998 where BeOS might have fit in. But compared to NT4
and Linux it simply did not have that much to offer.
Couldn't print? Not much to offer? BeOS may not have the best printing scheme, but it does work. As for not having modern features; the attribute based file system offers many features for many users; and I for one believe that any user exposed to it; even simple ones, would learn to make great use of it. Let's also not forget that BeOS has the best SMP implementation out of any O/S I've seen out there.
That's the kind of attitude that gives kids on computers a bad name. And yes I'm calling you a kid, if you tell me you're any older than 18 you're not making yourself look any better. Waiting until companies die to try, and get full versions of their software is just as bad as pirating in the first place; and a testament to why the computer gaming industry is crippled.
I couldn't disagree more. BeOS is far from hard to program for. The API's are relatively simple, in fact BeOS is one of the only O/Ses you can read people calling a joy to code for. How much do you even know about it?