The problem I am seeing here is who's wrongs and who's rights? If the Industry is engineering dictating what is "right" and "wrong" legally at the expense of the governed, why should the people take these on as their own personal morals? Think about it, SCO says you are using linux, therefor you owe them $699 for a licence or they will sue you. Now lets say thanks to their lobbying efforts, it becomes officially illegal to use linux without paying SCO. Is your or anyone elses use of linux without having a SCO licence now wrong?
Please note, if you renounce your citizenship and move to another country, you still have to pay income taxes and social security to the United States or they will hunt you down and extradite you.
Reminds me of the walls in Germany the Soviets used to keep their people from crossing to the NATO side. Only this one is financial.
"Nearly a year later, we haven't found any weapons of mass destruction, except for some rusty shells containing blister agents which didn't pose a serious threat to the US."
Could you please point me to where they found out it was true? Last I heard, it was _suspected_ they had blister agents. Big Difference.
Even so...after over 10 years, wouldn't the stuff be equivilent to a bad fart by now?
Having already been there, going to school and getting your degree is probably best while the job market is in the toilet, because the usual college "fast food" and Walmart-style jobs are still available in order to make spare change and gain experience. Just don't be surprised like I was when I got out of college and was struggling to make $50 a week. So, try to work out a backup plan. Save up all of your part time money you can. And, for god sakes, don't go into debt. You'll never get out of it in this market. Go to a community college if the University is too expensive and transfer the credits back in.
And, don't forget to party once in a while to stay sane. You'll have the rest of your life to go crazy a la rat-race.
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Well, the atmosphere has a tendancy of purging itself of excess water fairly easily and often. (Yes, it's rain, snow, whatever.) Current petrolium powered machinery also generates large amounts of water in combustion. It's just that it also generates C02, some CO, a small amout of soot, and trace chemicals. The components of gas tend to be hydrocarbons or alchohols (same stuff but with some oxygen already present). The hydrogen bonds with oxygen to make water. The carbon bonds with oxygen to make carbon dioxide and some carbon monoxide.
They critisize corporate fraud and promise to crack down, then procede to disolve legal and financial protections for whistleblowers. Not to mention many of thier own little financial escapades.
They proclaim to "Leave No Child Behind" (TM) and then procede to slash funding across the board for public education.
They "support the troops" by slashing pay and benefits for active duty and veterans and extending tour durations over and over.
And many many many more.
They make war in order to maintain peace. They proceed to strip us of all our freedom in the name of protecting it. They maintain security by controling hiding information.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.
This is no different, and not the least bit surprising.
"It might be more interesting to look for stolen Linux code in Unixware, I'd suggest with the support for a very well known Linux fileystem in the Linux compat addon product for UnixWare.." (sic)
What the hell are you talking about? Are you daft?...After Enron they have to prosecute Worldcom and Tyco at least before they get to SCO. Then their is the chance mutual funds might get tossed in before SCO. Lets not forget about them investigating Microsoft ignoring its own settlement.;P
At this rate, there isn't just an ice-cube's chance in hell of it happening. There is n/infinaty chance of it happening for n being a real number. We're talking quantum mechanics applied to earth sized objects probabilities.
It's funny, laugh. No, actually it's quite sad. But, it's kinda funny, too.
Yes, god forbid the police are concerned more with criminal activity as oppossed to the civil copyright infringement against an abusive foriegn monopoly.
Alright, I'll be man enough to admit when I screw up, and I screwed up. I was wrong.
But, not the way you think.
You see, the great grand parent post challenged me to prove the Republicans where baught and paid for just like the 'crats and probably at least some of the smaller parties. I went ahead and provided some information that showed the corruption in an easy to see fashion without haveing to go into a big research essay. I used the evidence that Microsoft, never really a big donater, saw its donations skyrocket in the 2000 and 2002 elections. They where subsequently let off the hook on a major federal lawsuit they had already lost. I pointed out the Republicans got a slight majority in the 2000 election, and after we got a Republican President, Microsoft was let off the hook. Then they donated even more with a much bigger spread of the money in 2002.
This was my mistake.
I did not mean to set the argument in a partisan, "Dems vs. Repubs" fashion. But, I did. And it allowed blowhard assholes like this jerkoff to "win" the argument by using the "Dems vs. Repubs" argument as a Red Herring. Where they "win" by making points that seem valid, but are infact unrelated to the issue at hand. Think of the "Innocent by Chewbaca" skit that has been floating around slashdot recently. My point was the Republicans where corrupt as well as the Democrats and there was not much hope with the others getting elected. These guys end up making it a Democrat (which I am not of) and Republican mud slinging fest.
Hell, I only like how Mr. Kicinich's political fundraising is unfolding. He seems to concentrate too much on labor unions for me. But, that is an aside.
Ok. Now for this guy:
"Is it surprising that the party with the most elected officials would get the most money?"
-Not as surprising as how they got the most money, then got the most elected officials.
"Is it surprising that the party which more people are voting for would get the most money?"
-Again, see above. You would have a point if political donations where equal in amount per person.
"Is it surprising that the party which demonizes large business would get the least money from businesses?"
-Funny, they seem to bend over and do a goatse just like the other corporate money whores. The only difference I've seen is a tendancy to support different sets of corporate and industrial interests. I really should offer some research to back this up... Ok, watch the financial news and read between the lines instead of the spin. If you have good observational and rational skills you'll pick it up after a while.
"Is it surprising that the party which forcibly takes money from business (based on the party's opinion of their ability to give) and gives it to others (based on the party's opinion of their need) would get the least money from businesses?"
Ok, that statement only makes partial sence. You need to state that clearer. I'll respond to what I do understand. The rich paying less taxes than the poor does not have have any statistical backing. What does is the lack of taxes paid by corporations. Many get more money back from the government -not including purchases and contracts- than they pay in taxes in the first place. This "corporate welfare" takes the wealth of citizens -rich, poor, and everyone else- and basically hands it over to corporations that are "too big" to let collapse under thier own corruption. So much for the free market.
If that where not enough, they get special legistlation, like the DCMA, to prop themselves up in what appears to be a corporate version of an aristocrasy. And as to which class profits from this, how many poor and middle class can afford significant investments right now? Hell, most can barely afford their bills right now or worse.
I'm not stuck on the vs. BS. But realistically, who the hell is actually going to get the presidency? I can and have tried to educate people on the matter, and quite frankly, it makes them think for 2 whole seconds, then *flush* right down the mental toilet. And that is assuming I don't run across one of those "I'm always right" blowhards. "Mickey Mouse" probably gets more votes than the other parties. And honestly, regardless of what party, I want the current set of fucktards out of office ASAP, even if it means "dealing with the devil" (AKA that other bunch of corporate ass kissers) so to speak.
Well, here is one example, Microsoft donated next to nothing politically until the Presidential 2000 elections, I'll give you a cookie if you can figure out who that money went to. Oh, looks like they also dumped large sums into the Republican takeovers of the house and senate in '02. I'll give you another cookie if you can remember what suddenly happend to the anti-trust lawsuit soon after our neo-conservative friends got into office.
Oh, they did donate to Democrats, when it was for people on their own home state turf.
Bush got $71,750 from Microsoft. Gore got $27,750.
53% went to Republicans in 2000. 60% in '02.
Isn't it a shame how so little money can buy so much influence?
The Republicans are firmly in the pockets of Computer Hardware and Software manufacturers that want to keep the DMCA to prevent competitors from copying products and making compatable ones.
The Democrats are firmly in the pockets of the RIAA and MPAA that want to keep the DMCA to help them keep their strangleholds in thier markets.
Everyone else has an icecube's chance in hell of getting in regardless of who funds their habits.
It is worth mentioning Mr. Kucinich is trying to get the presidential nomination and has very little financial contamination from the formentioned industries. $36,275 from TV, movies, and music industry and $25,590 from the computer industry out of $3,399,709 total.
Last time I checked $5 wasn't free. Oh, I suppose you mean:
". . . or free via mail. . . "
Please tell me, where can you mail stuff for free, that would really help. Oh, and you think your physical address is worthless? Oh, great, not instead of spamming your inbox, now you get flooded with "offers" in your mailbox.
This is of course assuming your letter doesn't get misplaced in the circular file.
"Maybe it will take longer in the US, as the politicians seem more insulated from the voters, and more beholden to corporate interests than other democracies, but those politicians are going to start getting the message loud and clear from a mojority of their electors 'FOR GODS SAKE DO SOMETHING EFFECTIVE ABOUT SPAM!!'"
Thats when our fun little corporate interests bri...err...convince parts of our government and other corporations to apply trade sanctions against any country that tries to pass any truely effective Anti-Spam legislation.
Your reply would make a lot more sence if it was just CS based jobs that got flushed down the crapper. I suppose I shoulda been an MBA or a laywer, huh?
"Nobody is guaranteed a job based on the training they elect to engage in."
Yep, but it gets a little odd when you start asking people at the interviews, "How long have you been at this?" "Oh, for about a year. My degree and experience is in electrical engineering, but I can't seem to get a job in that either." That and half the jobs I interview for end up with replies that say, "We regred to inform you that this position was unexpectedly canceled." instead of "We're sorry, another person was selected for the position."
Again: "Nobody is guaranteed a job based on the training they elect to engage in."
But anyone that is already filthy rich is garenteed that they remain filthy rich by the government. (Keep those "campain contributions" coming!)
"Do you want fries with that?" "Do you want fries with that?" "Do you want fries with that?" "Do you want fries with that?" "Do you want a CS degree with that?"...Oops sorry, I was just thinking about what a waste the CS degree I got this Spring is. Yeah, the economy is recovering very well, from what I hear. Corporate profits are up thanks to them using the Bush tax cut to ship all the high end technical jobs overseas. Jobs are comming back, too. I can pick any burger joint in town to work at. I can even get a job at the local Walmart now for $6.25 a hour now! The bucks are just rolling in, aren't they?
And next to no one is buying computers right now around here. And thanks to all this supercorp merging, this towns factory got baught by the competition just to close it down! All hail His Magesty Bush and his court's super spin cycled reports.
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I think I agree with you here.
The problem I am seeing here is who's wrongs and who's rights? If the Industry is engineering dictating what is "right" and "wrong" legally at the expense of the governed, why should the people take these on as their own personal morals? Think about it, SCO says you are using linux, therefor you owe them $699 for a licence or they will sue you. Now lets say thanks to their lobbying efforts, it becomes officially illegal to use linux without paying SCO. Is your or anyone elses use of linux without having a SCO licence now wrong?
*braces for the technicality trolls*
Please note, if you renounce your citizenship and move to another country, you still have to pay income taxes and social security to the United States or they will hunt you down and extradite you.
Reminds me of the walls in Germany the Soviets used to keep their people from crossing to the NATO side. Only this one is financial.
Thanks, but I just noticed it on CNN.
Jesus, America! Are you sleeping???
Yes.
"Nearly a year later, we haven't found any weapons of mass destruction, except for some rusty shells containing blister agents which didn't pose a serious threat to the US."
Could you please point me to where they found out it was true? Last I heard, it was _suspected_ they had blister agents. Big Difference.
Even so...after over 10 years, wouldn't the stuff be equivilent to a bad fart by now?
Having already been there, going to school and getting your degree is probably best while the job market is in the toilet, because the usual college "fast food" and Walmart-style jobs are still available in order to make spare change and gain experience. Just don't be surprised like I was when I got out of college and was struggling to make $50 a week. So, try to work out a backup plan. Save up all of your part time money you can. And, for god sakes, don't go into debt. You'll never get out of it in this market. Go to a community college if the University is too expensive and transfer the credits back in.
And, don't forget to party once in a while to stay sane. You'll have the rest of your life to go crazy a la rat-race.
Well, the atmosphere has a tendancy of purging itself of excess water fairly easily and often. (Yes, it's rain, snow, whatever.) Current petrolium powered machinery also generates large amounts of water in combustion. It's just that it also generates C02, some CO, a small amout of soot, and trace chemicals. The components of gas tend to be hydrocarbons or alchohols (same stuff but with some oxygen already present). The hydrogen bonds with oxygen to make water. The carbon bonds with oxygen to make carbon dioxide and some carbon monoxide.
In other words, this law is just like the other laws this current set of jackasses has come up with:
Clean Air Act and Clear Skys Initiative gives free reign to industry to pollute as much as it wants with no ill consequence.
USA PATRIOT Act is the most unpatriotic and authoritarian piece of legistlation since the Alien Sedition Acts, possibly earlier.
The Medicare Reform hands medicare over to private HMO's and basically sets up Medicare for a crash in a few years.
The Energy Bill that hands over tons of money to the corporations that caused the problem in the first place.
The effort to "free" Afghanistan that basically handed that country over to opium drug lords.
They go into Iraq in part because they may be collecting radioactive material to build nuclear bombs to use on the US, and procede to dump 75 tons of depleted uranium rounds in their country.
They critisize corporate fraud and promise to crack down, then procede to disolve legal and financial protections for whistleblowers. Not to mention many of thier own little financial escapades.
They proclaim to "Leave No Child Behind" (TM) and then procede to slash funding across the board for public education.
They "support the troops" by slashing pay and benefits for active duty and veterans and extending tour durations over and over.
And many many many more.
They make war in order to maintain peace.
They proceed to strip us of all our freedom in the name of protecting it.
They maintain security by controling hiding information.
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
This is no different, and not the least bit surprising.
Quothe Mr. Hellwig:
"It might be more interesting to look for stolen Linux code in Unixware,
I'd suggest with the support for a very well known Linux fileystem in
the Linux compat addon product for UnixWare.." (sic)
hint hint...
hint hint hint..
HINT HINT HINT HINT HINT!
What the hell are you talking about? Are you daft? ...After Enron they have to prosecute Worldcom and Tyco at least before they get to SCO. Then their is the chance mutual funds might get tossed in before SCO. Lets not forget about them investigating Microsoft ignoring its own settlement. ;P
At this rate, there isn't just an ice-cube's chance in hell of it happening. There is n/infinaty chance of it happening for n being a real number. We're talking quantum mechanics applied to earth sized objects probabilities.
It's funny, laugh. No, actually it's quite sad. But, it's kinda funny, too.
I'd bet its a sanity check in the code. Either that or someone's been naughty and used 16 bit ints.
That assumes the public at large doesn't just sponge up the spin from the big media corporations like they do and actually tries to think.
It helps if you have the press there so your beatdown and gassing for sitting peacefully is shown on the 5 o'clock news.
Yes, god forbid the police are concerned more with criminal activity as oppossed to the civil copyright infringement against an abusive foriegn monopoly.
Alright, I'll be man enough to admit when I screw up, and I screwed up. I was wrong.
But, not the way you think.
You see, the great grand parent post challenged me to prove the Republicans where baught and paid for just like the 'crats and probably at least some of the smaller parties. I went ahead and provided some information that showed the corruption in an easy to see fashion without haveing to go into a big research essay. I used the evidence that Microsoft, never really a big donater, saw its donations skyrocket in the 2000 and 2002 elections. They where subsequently let off the hook on a major federal lawsuit they had already lost. I pointed out the Republicans got a slight majority in the 2000 election, and after we got a Republican President, Microsoft was let off the hook. Then they donated even more with a much bigger spread of the money in 2002.
This was my mistake.
I did not mean to set the argument in a partisan, "Dems vs. Repubs" fashion. But, I did. And it allowed blowhard assholes like this jerkoff to "win" the argument by using the "Dems vs. Repubs" argument as a Red Herring. Where they "win" by making points that seem valid, but are infact unrelated to the issue at hand. Think of the "Innocent by Chewbaca" skit that has been floating around slashdot recently. My point was the Republicans where corrupt as well as the Democrats and there was not much hope with the others getting elected. These guys end up making it a Democrat (which I am not of) and Republican mud slinging fest.
Hell, I only like how Mr. Kicinich's political fundraising is unfolding. He seems to concentrate too much on labor unions for me. But, that is an aside.
Ok. Now for this guy:
"Is it surprising that the party with the most elected officials would get the most money?"
-Not as surprising as how they got the most money, then got the most elected officials.
"Is it surprising that the party which more people are voting for would get the most money?"
-Again, see above. You would have a point if political donations where equal in amount per person.
"Is it surprising that the party which demonizes large business would get the least money from businesses?"
-Funny, they seem to bend over and do a goatse just like the other corporate money whores. The only difference I've seen is a tendancy to support different sets of corporate and industrial interests. I really should offer some research to back this up... Ok, watch the financial news and read between the lines instead of the spin. If you have good observational and rational skills you'll pick it up after a while.
"Is it surprising that the party which forcibly takes money from business (based on the party's opinion of their ability to give) and gives it to others (based on the party's opinion of their need) would get the least money from businesses?"
Ok, that statement only makes partial sence. You need to state that clearer. I'll respond to what I do understand. The rich paying less taxes than the poor does not have have any statistical backing. What does is the lack of taxes paid by corporations. Many get more money back from the government -not including purchases and contracts- than they pay in taxes in the first place. This "corporate welfare" takes the wealth of citizens -rich, poor, and everyone else- and basically hands it over to corporations that are "too big" to let collapse under thier own corruption. So much for the free market.
If that where not enough, they get special legistlation, like the DCMA, to prop themselves up in what appears to be a corporate version of an aristocrasy. And as to which class profits from this, how many poor and middle class can afford significant investments right now? Hell, most can barely afford their bills right now or worse.
I'm not stuck on the vs. BS. But realistically, who the hell is actually going to get the presidency? I can and have tried to educate people on the matter, and quite frankly, it makes them think for 2 whole seconds, then *flush* right down the mental toilet. And that is assuming I don't run across one of those "I'm always right" blowhards. "Mickey Mouse" probably gets more votes than the other parties. And honestly, regardless of what party, I want the current set of fucktards out of office ASAP, even if it means "dealing with the devil" (AKA that other bunch of corporate ass kissers) so to speak.
Well, here is one example, Microsoft donated next to nothing politically until the Presidential 2000 elections, I'll give you a cookie if you can figure out who that money went to. Oh, looks like they also dumped large sums into the Republican takeovers of the house and senate in '02. I'll give you another cookie if you can remember what suddenly happend to the anti-trust lawsuit soon after our neo-conservative friends got into office.
Oh, they did donate to Democrats, when it was for people on their own home state turf.
Bush got $71,750 from Microsoft.
Gore got $27,750.
53% went to Republicans in 2000.
60% in '02.
Isn't it a shame how so little money can buy so much influence?
The Republicans are firmly in the pockets of Computer Hardware and Software manufacturers that want to keep the DMCA to prevent competitors from copying products and making compatable ones.
The Democrats are firmly in the pockets of the RIAA and MPAA that want to keep the DMCA to help them keep their strangleholds in thier markets.
Everyone else has an icecube's chance in hell of getting in regardless of who funds their habits.
It is worth mentioning Mr. Kucinich is trying to get the presidential nomination and has very little financial contamination from the formentioned industries. $36,275 from TV, movies, and music industry and $25,590 from the computer industry out of $3,399,709 total.
"How is it extortion if it is free? Dumass."
Besides the obvious...*cough*dumbass*cough*
". . . 5$ via internet. . . "
Last time I checked $5 wasn't free. Oh, I suppose you mean:
". . . or free via mail. . . "
Please tell me, where can you mail stuff for free, that would really help. Oh, and you think your physical address is worthless? Oh, great, not instead of spamming your inbox, now you get flooded with "offers" in your mailbox.
This is of course assuming your letter doesn't get misplaced in the circular file.
"Maybe it will take longer in the US, as the politicians seem more insulated from the voters, and more beholden to corporate interests than other democracies, but those politicians are going to start getting the message loud and clear from a mojority of their electors 'FOR GODS SAKE DO SOMETHING EFFECTIVE ABOUT SPAM!!'"
Thats when our fun little corporate interests bri...err...convince parts of our government and other corporations to apply trade sanctions against any country that tries to pass any truely effective Anti-Spam legislation.
While it may be a lagitimate creative business in the United States of America, in most parts of the world, that is called extortion.
Single male, early 20's. Unemployed in the computer industry. Currently working as a floor sander.
I am a Scorpio that likes porn and anime, farting around on the computer endlessly, and occasionally paintballing in the woods.
Looking for a fuckbuddy, possibly more if the money is available...
Oh, yeah, and I am honest.
I've seen them have the good sales sometimes. On black friday, all the good shit is gone in the first 2 minutes, though.
Your reply would make a lot more sence if it was just CS based jobs that got flushed down the crapper. I suppose I shoulda been an MBA or a laywer, huh?
"Nobody is guaranteed a job based on the training they elect to engage in."
Yep, but it gets a little odd when you start asking people at the interviews, "How long have you been at this?" "Oh, for about a year. My degree and experience is in electrical engineering, but I can't seem to get a job in that either." That and half the jobs I interview for end up with replies that say, "We regred to inform you that this position was unexpectedly canceled." instead of "We're sorry, another person was selected for the position."
Again: "Nobody is guaranteed a job based on the training they elect to engage in."
But anyone that is already filthy rich is garenteed that they remain filthy rich by the government. (Keep those "campain contributions" coming!)
"Do you want fries with that?" ...Oops sorry, I was just thinking about what a waste the CS degree I got this Spring is. Yeah, the economy is recovering very well, from what I hear. Corporate profits are up thanks to them using the Bush tax cut to ship all the high end technical jobs overseas. Jobs are comming back, too. I can pick any burger joint in town to work at. I can even get a job at the local Walmart now for $6.25 a hour now! The bucks are just rolling in, aren't they?
"Do you want fries with that?"
"Do you want fries with that?"
"Do you want fries with that?"
"Do you want a CS degree with that?"
And next to no one is buying computers right now around here. And thanks to all this supercorp merging, this towns factory got baught by the competition just to close it down! All hail His Magesty Bush and his court's super spin cycled reports.