Well truth be told the idea from Google's perspective is to say to the newspaper industry, "See? We're your friend! You wouldn't sue a friend, would you??"
Child C's life was tragically cut short when he was electrocuted while taking apart his mother's hair dryer while bathing. So sad. I think the government should require a license before they let you NEAR a screwdriver! That includes phlips, sonic AND flat head!
Me in top 85 persontile inelli, intela, intelun, smarts-wise.
15 yars of unschooling perpared me to spend the rest of my live unworking. Member! Curosity kilt the cat! But the cat haz 9 LIVES (plus one cheezeburger) and you hav only 1.
Oh! And I love them magic boxes! They ain't all black though. Not sure where yur going with that one.
You an me may be bruthers! Since we's BOTH in the top 85 persontile!
Do you love football to? How bout rassling and racin? Me too!
Had to write a blog post (meant to be humorous...) about this idea. If you are interested: http://bit.ly/3x59Dg If you are not interested, well it is still at that link you just shouldn't go there...
Now including 20% MORE references to Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) and his plan to save Social Security by shooting old folks into space! I know lots of folks on the right are taking shots at HIM right now, and this sounds like one of them, but I actually point out that it was in a humor book and not meant to be serious. I don't consider myself part of the left or right. It is just funny to me that he is now a real live senator who really did write that once upon a time.
I would really, really like to go to Mars. But I would really, really, REALLY like to come back when I was done looking at rocks and dust and rocks.
If mankind lasts long enough I suspect we will colonize Mars. I am 100% certain it won't be within my lifetime, I am 90% certain that it won't be within the lifetime of anyone reading this (at the time it is posted... NO FAIR you future archaeologists!), and not willing to put a percentage on my certainty that mankind will last long enough. I don't mean one or two trips either, I mean a real colony that sustains itself and grows by means other than continued ship after ship of doomed people from earth.
Realistically I think we should have several decades of robotic exploration before we decide to send people. You know what? Sending robots is FAR, FAR, FAR cheaper than sending people EVEN ON A ONE WAY TRIP. I like the idea of manned exploration of space as much as anyone, but I think we can learn more from a LOT of unmanned missions instead of a few manned missions.
What is this "console" of which you speak? Why do you refer to this as "2009"? Clearly your time-space continuum is out of whack. I recommend a sharp blow to the head. In the future we have determined that this is the cure for many head related ailments like amnesia, Temporal Dropsy, and demon possession.
I'm sure the students learned some valuable lessons, and isn't that what being a student is all about?
Now if the poor schmuck had hoped to avoid LOSING his case, perhaps a non-academic lawyer whose goal was winning the case, would have been a better choice.
Sounds like he's a GREAT professor and a LOUSY trial attorney.
My take is that for the most part only very tech savy people care at all about the problems with Windows.
I suspect the average person would rather live with the Windows they know than even try what could be a better operating system (or not, can't say, doesn't exist yet).
The non-tech folks who DO care enough to switch are probably already using Macs.
Folks who are using Linux or Unix currently will have to decide if they want to try a new flavor.
That doesn't leave an enormous set of people who are likely adopters of the Google OS.
Best move they could make is starting with netbooks. People who want a netbook aren't looking for what they have always had. They consider this to be a new category of device altogether. That means they might be willing to give this new OS a whirl. Linux on the EEEPC seems to have been accepted by the public in a way that Linux on the PC never has. If they can get enough people to use the netbooks, then perhaps they will be ready to consider the PC version later.
I'm not sure how successful Googlie is going to be on this one. Their track record outside of search has been spotty with some wins and some losses. I think their approach of starting with netbooks is good. They are definitely geniuses, but even geniuses can be wrong about what other people will do...
One more comment on this one... I'm definitely NOT opposed to the existence of the site, in fact I wholeheartedly welcome it. I want all the transparency in government I can get, but I don't want to pay for lots of bells and whistles.
My only objection is that it could be done for far less.
For example, lets say it costs $75,000 a year to run a really good website (just sayin). For $18 mil you could run that site for 240 years.
Started to make a joke and decided not to. This isn't funny.
My guess is that on slashdot a really large percentage of the readers are capable of producing a website. A smaller percentage could make a good website and a really small percentage could make a website that will be every bit as good as the upcoming $18 million website from the govt 2.0.
Being good slashdotters, many of them would know of the concept of FOSS.
So the existence of FOSS means that it is possible to achieve this website for the cost of 1) servers, 2) bandwidth, 3) electricity, 4) infrastructure (building, etc), and 5) people to make/run/maintain the site.
Let's say we just take about $1 million and buy a really nice building somewhere. That may not get you much in DC, but all we need is a connection to the internet, right? I seem to heard something in the news recently about real estate and how some people are having trouble selling theirs. Maybe for $1 million dollars we could pick up a really nice building in the mid-west somewhere?
That leaves us $17 million to work with.
If we take the Google approach of buying cheap PC grade hardware and making a big distributed system, we could build a pretty nice farm for another $1 million. Right? Now we are down to $16 million.
If we run more than $100,000 a year for combined bandwidth and electricity, I'd be kind of surprised, so we're good for ten years on $1 million. That leaves $15 million.
That leaves people. So we have $15 million dollars to hire people to make and run a website. Let's spread that over ten years as well. That gives us $1.5 million per year. We'll pay every single one of them $100,000 a year. That means we can have 15 people. Realistically we only need the bulk of those people during the initial redesign, but why quibble? It's only money, right?
So laying it out that way, wouldn't you agree that we should be seeing one heck of a great website? Innovative and interactive indeed!
OMG! Just RTFA! The $18 million tag is not for 10 years, but only 5 years. Wow.
As for your sense of rage, that's up to you. You could feel rage that the government is spending more money for this than is necessary. You could equally feel a sense of irony that they are spending a large sum of money on a site meant to show you how well they are managing your money and not spending it frivolously.
For me it used to be about creating character generators for various role-playing games. I had some pretty good ones back in the Commodore days. I especially liked my Star Frontiers generator. Good times, good times.
During the flight he delivered a baby, performed a partial liver transplant, devised an experiment to test string theory, rescued Schrodinger's cat from the "box of death", and helped the elderly Fitzsimmons sisters join the "mile high club".
In other news... Non-American Person who is CEO of Non-American company who wants to win contracts in America says Americans are not as good as his workers. Not saying he is wrong, but sometimes it is helpful to consider the source and evaluate any potential gain they have from the pronouncement in question.
Well I for one totally trust Google because they said they aren't evil.
Microsoft didn't say that. Yahoo didn't say that. AT&T didn't say that. Starbucks didn't say that. The Salvation Army didn't say that.
Someone who isn't evil who says they aren't evil BY LOGIC must not be evil!
YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH LOGIC!
Wait a second...
Their motto is "Don't Be Evil". If we diagram that sentence then the implied subject is You. So that would come out something like "Hey, you, don't be evil."
So they never said they weren't evil, they just kind of order everyone else to not be evil. Their motto isn't "We're Not Evil" it is "Don't Be Evil".
You know what else? Their are SIX letters in the name Google. There are basically THREE people running the show (Brin, Page, Schmidt). So if EACH of them got a copy of the name that would make 666!!! OMG!!! The number of the beast!!!
Well, realistically Schmidt isn't really equal to Brin and Page, so I guess it would really be 665. I guess that just makes Google the neighbor of the beast.
Slashdot Mirror
Well truth be told the idea from Google's perspective is to say to the newspaper industry, "See? We're your friend! You wouldn't sue a friend, would you??"
That's a plus 5 funny right there with no saving throw.
Child C's life was tragically cut short when he was electrocuted while taking apart his mother's hair dryer while bathing. So sad. I think the government should require a license before they let you NEAR a screwdriver! That includes phlips, sonic AND flat head!
AGREE TOTULLY!
Me in top 85 persontile inelli, intela, intelun, smarts-wise.
15 yars of unschooling perpared me to spend the rest of my live unworking. Member! Curosity kilt the cat! But the cat haz 9 LIVES (plus one cheezeburger) and you hav only 1.
Oh! And I love them magic boxes! They ain't all black though. Not sure where yur going with that one.
You an me may be bruthers! Since we's BOTH in the top 85 persontile!
Do you love football to? How bout rassling and racin? Me too!
COMING This FALL:
Survivor Mars!!!
Pfft. Because you're too busy shooting buffalo.
Had to write a blog post (meant to be humorous...) about this idea. If you are interested: http://bit.ly/3x59Dg If you are not interested, well it is still at that link you just shouldn't go there...
Now including 20% MORE references to Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) and his plan to save Social Security by shooting old folks into space! I know lots of folks on the right are taking shots at HIM right now, and this sounds like one of them, but I actually point out that it was in a humor book and not meant to be serious. I don't consider myself part of the left or right. It is just funny to me that he is now a real live senator who really did write that once upon a time.
I would really, really like to go to Mars. But I would really, really, REALLY like to come back when I was done looking at rocks and dust and rocks.
If mankind lasts long enough I suspect we will colonize Mars. I am 100% certain it won't be within my lifetime, I am 90% certain that it won't be within the lifetime of anyone reading this (at the time it is posted... NO FAIR you future archaeologists!), and not willing to put a percentage on my certainty that mankind will last long enough. I don't mean one or two trips either, I mean a real colony that sustains itself and grows by means other than continued ship after ship of doomed people from earth.
Realistically I think we should have several decades of robotic exploration before we decide to send people. You know what? Sending robots is FAR, FAR, FAR cheaper than sending people EVEN ON A ONE WAY TRIP. I like the idea of manned exploration of space as much as anyone, but I think we can learn more from a LOT of unmanned missions instead of a few manned missions.
Don't forget the inevitable cholera outbreaks...
High on my list is a sustainable source of sufficient oxygen. Plus lag would totally suck on FPS games.
What is this "console" of which you speak? Why do you refer to this as "2009"? Clearly your time-space continuum is out of whack. I recommend a sharp blow to the head. In the future we have determined that this is the cure for many head related ailments like amnesia, Temporal Dropsy, and demon possession.
I have one word for you: BOYCOTT.
This is total crap! I'm posting this, changing the CD and driving right now! I can certainly
I'm sure the students learned some valuable lessons, and isn't that what being a student is all about?
Now if the poor schmuck had hoped to avoid LOSING his case, perhaps a non-academic lawyer whose goal was winning the case, would have been a better choice.
Sounds like he's a GREAT professor and a LOUSY trial attorney.
Soldering and woodburning are great teachers of fine motor skills. Searing burns are great for focusing your mind.
My take is that for the most part only very tech savy people care at all about the problems with Windows.
I suspect the average person would rather live with the Windows they know than even try what could be a better operating system (or not, can't say, doesn't exist yet).
The non-tech folks who DO care enough to switch are probably already using Macs.
Folks who are using Linux or Unix currently will have to decide if they want to try a new flavor.
That doesn't leave an enormous set of people who are likely adopters of the Google OS.
Best move they could make is starting with netbooks. People who want a netbook aren't looking for what they have always had. They consider this to be a new category of device altogether. That means they might be willing to give this new OS a whirl. Linux on the EEEPC seems to have been accepted by the public in a way that Linux on the PC never has. If they can get enough people to use the netbooks, then perhaps they will be ready to consider the PC version later.
I'm not sure how successful Googlie is going to be on this one. Their track record outside of search has been spotty with some wins and some losses. I think their approach of starting with netbooks is good. They are definitely geniuses, but even geniuses can be wrong about what other people will do...
I totally agree with you. I was just trying to show that for that amount of money you should get a palace with your website...
You sir have excellent taste.
I'd love to get the X-Wing/Tie series updated and re-released.
For my money MechWarrior 2 was the most fun in the series. 3 and 4 were great, but 2 was special.
Looks like I'll have to go buy a joystick.
One more comment on this one... I'm definitely NOT opposed to the existence of the site, in fact I wholeheartedly welcome it. I want all the transparency in government I can get, but I don't want to pay for lots of bells and whistles.
My only objection is that it could be done for far less.
For example, lets say it costs $75,000 a year to run a really good website (just sayin). For $18 mil you could run that site for 240 years.
Started to make a joke and decided not to. This isn't funny.
My guess is that on slashdot a really large percentage of the readers are capable of producing a website. A smaller percentage could make a good website and a really small percentage could make a website that will be every bit as good as the upcoming $18 million website from the govt 2.0.
Being good slashdotters, many of them would know of the concept of FOSS.
So the existence of FOSS means that it is possible to achieve this website for the cost of 1) servers, 2) bandwidth, 3) electricity, 4) infrastructure (building, etc), and 5) people to make/run/maintain the site.
Let's say we just take about $1 million and buy a really nice building somewhere. That may not get you much in DC, but all we need is a connection to the internet, right? I seem to heard something in the news recently about real estate and how some people are having trouble selling theirs. Maybe for $1 million dollars we could pick up a really nice building in the mid-west somewhere?
That leaves us $17 million to work with.
If we take the Google approach of buying cheap PC grade hardware and making a big distributed system, we could build a pretty nice farm for another $1 million. Right? Now we are down to $16 million.
If we run more than $100,000 a year for combined bandwidth and electricity, I'd be kind of surprised, so we're good for ten years on $1 million. That leaves $15 million.
That leaves people. So we have $15 million dollars to hire people to make and run a website. Let's spread that over ten years as well. That gives us $1.5 million per year. We'll pay every single one of them $100,000 a year. That means we can have 15 people. Realistically we only need the bulk of those people during the initial redesign, but why quibble? It's only money, right?
So laying it out that way, wouldn't you agree that we should be seeing one heck of a great website? Innovative and interactive indeed!
OMG! Just RTFA! The $18 million tag is not for 10 years, but only 5 years. Wow.
As for your sense of rage, that's up to you. You could feel rage that the government is spending more money for this than is necessary. You could equally feel a sense of irony that they are spending a large sum of money on a site meant to show you how well they are managing your money and not spending it frivolously.
How you react to the story is really up to you.
For me it used to be about creating character generators for various role-playing games. I had some pretty good ones back in the Commodore days. I especially liked my Star Frontiers generator. Good times, good times.
What exactly is a partial liver transplant? Did you only replace a part of the liver?
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/356/15/1545
Well, it was both informative and funny until you looked at it...
No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express....
During the flight he delivered a baby, performed a partial liver transplant, devised an experiment to test string theory, rescued Schrodinger's cat from the "box of death", and helped the elderly Fitzsimmons sisters join the "mile high club".
American Blog Editors are UNEMPLOYABLE!!
In other news... Non-American Person who is CEO of Non-American company who wants to win contracts in America says Americans are not as good as his workers. Not saying he is wrong, but sometimes it is helpful to consider the source and evaluate any potential gain they have from the pronouncement in question.
Well I for one totally trust Google because they said they aren't evil.
Microsoft didn't say that. Yahoo didn't say that. AT&T didn't say that. Starbucks didn't say that. The Salvation Army didn't say that.
Someone who isn't evil who says they aren't evil BY LOGIC must not be evil!
YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH LOGIC!
Wait a second...
Their motto is "Don't Be Evil". If we diagram that sentence then the implied subject is You. So that would come out something like "Hey, you, don't be evil."
So they never said they weren't evil, they just kind of order everyone else to not be evil. Their motto isn't "We're Not Evil" it is "Don't Be Evil".
You know what else? Their are SIX letters in the name Google. There are basically THREE people running the show (Brin, Page, Schmidt). So if EACH of them got a copy of the name that would make 666!!! OMG!!! The number of the beast!!!
Well, realistically Schmidt isn't really equal to Brin and Page, so I guess it would really be 665. I guess that just makes Google the neighbor of the beast.