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Habitual Multitaskers Do It Badly

iandoh writes "According to a group of Stanford researchers, people who frequently multitask don't pay attention, control their memory or switch from one job to another as well as those who prefer to complete one task at a time. In other words, multitaskers are bad at multitasking. The research team is also studying how to design computer voices for cars that result in safer driving." Reader AliasMarlowe adds "The comparison involved multitasking with a number of attention or context related tests. For the study, multitasking was defined as consuming multiple media sources at once — gaming, TV, IM, email, etc. Interestingly, the habitual multitaskers were much worse at multitasking than the single taskers in these relatively straightforward tests. In self-assessment the multitaskers considered themselves good at it and the single taskers considered themselves bad at it. An extreme case of the Dunning-Kruger effect, perhaps, with consequences for business and society."

386 comments

  1. When I multitask... by Kagura · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I multitask, I can feel the lack of attention that I'm devoting to certain things. For example, when I talk on the phone or text while driving. I mentally feel it.

    1. Re:When I multitask... by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      text while driving

      Please watch this video and reconsider your habit of texting while driving.

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    2. Re:When I multitask... by Kagura · · Score: 1

      I'm not watching the video, but I rarely text while driving. It's stupid and I have only done it a few times.

    3. Re:When I multitask... by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Please watch this video and reconsider your habit of texting while driving.

      ...and on behalf of your co-workers, friends, and family, this comic (SFW), and reconsider your habit of IMing your personal conversations and your work-related conversations.

    4. Re:When I multitask... by ashtophoenix · · Score: 2

      I feel it mentally too but I also feel it physically. For example, when you are driving up or down the winding track of a parking garage and you are not paying your full attention, or you are too fast, you feel a certain vibration in your nerves, in your hands or legs. It's something signalling to you that you are on the wrong. I feel that even when I am driving a bit too fast, or even when I am about to take a rash action (maybe make a phone call that I shouldn't be making for example) but its a very subtle vibration and I think you need some amount of sensitivity and habit to sense it. Obviously it can be very helpful and at times avoid calamities.

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    5. Re:When I multitask... by SCHecklerX · · Score: 1

      This happened right in front of me on the way home one night. The guy behind him reported that he was paying a lot of attention to a little box in his hand...

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/28154298@N05/sets/72157605928214101/detail/

    6. Re:When I multitask... by dlthomas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A good example of why windows shouldn't steal focus, but rather irrelevant to the subject at hand...

    7. Re:When I multitask... by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      Even more importantly don't text whilst listening to queen :)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QggEvJAlV1s

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    8. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      text while driving

      Please watch this video and reconsider your habit of texting while driving.

      I don't have time to look at it just now, but I'm usually bored while driving home, so I'll have a look then.

    9. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      How 'bout this XKCD, then? "Typewriter"

      Same basic problem. Apps that steal focus are evil, but the root problem is distraction brought on by interrupt-driven media such as IM or texting. In a way, even a voice phone call is less interrupt-driven, so long as neither party has that infuriating call-waiting misfeature.

    10. Re:When I multitask... by Scragglykat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So what you are saying is that you are only stupid on occasion?

    11. Re:When I multitask... by theaveng · · Score: 2, Informative

      This video is a good argument for why highways should have a dividing wall in the middle. This texting driver would have merely scraped that wall rather than pile into another car at ~120 miles an hour.

      Another video worth watching is the one where a U.S. busdriver is texting, and slams into a stopped car on the interstate.

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    12. Re:When I multitask... by theaveng · · Score: 1

      They also shouldn't move your cursor. Oftentimes I'll type my name, then my password, but suddenly the cursor moves back to the USERID box and my password gets typed with full visibility.

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    13. Re:When I multitask... by Richy_T · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Another video worth watching is the one where a U.S. busdriver is texting, and slams into a stopped car on the interstate.

      So I guess that makes a good argument for putting walls across interstates?

    14. Re:When I multitask... by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      This is poor web design and both my bank and Yahoo do this (annoyingly). A little bit of googling and there are some smart people out there who have devised ways to achieve the same thing (focus on the username box when the page loads) but avoiding doing so if the user has already started typing.

      For a company like Yahoo, there's really no excuse.

    15. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol

    16. Re:When I multitask... by tuxgeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People that talk on their cell phones while driving, are obviously distracted and drive like they're retarded. Crashing into stationary objects isn't the only hazard these morons face. Pissing off other motorists and getting your dumb ass shot is also a possibility. I for one have felt this impulse on more that one occasion while following some imbecile, talking on their cell phone while trying to stay between the ditches.

      Personally, I am all for imposing very large fines for people using cell phones while driving. This is already the case on all military bases. I think it's time to place new laws to include all other roads as well.

      In your case, texting while driving: Your eyes are not on the road; Both hands are doing something else instead of piloting your large conglomeration of steel barreling down the road.
      I'm having some difficulty putting a suitable punishment for you, my friend. Any first thoughts I'm having are not good for you.

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    17. Re:When I multitask... by oji-sama · · Score: 1

      I've had the same problem on Gmail. Not sure if the problem still exists, since I can't really test it right now... (well I tried, but the connection I have here doesn't really lag enough for Gmail nor Yahoo)

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    18. Re:When I multitask... by russotto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When I multitask, I can feel the lack of attention that I'm devoting to certain things.

      I would conjecture that those who feel they are good at multitasking do _not_ feel this -- and that's both why they feel they are good at multitasking, and why they are actually bad at it.

    19. Re:When I multitask... by mujadaddy · · Score: 0, Troll

      Some people can actually drive. For the rest of you sock puppets, please keep your eyes on the road, your fellow vehicles & pedestrians, your mirrors, and your speedometer.

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    20. Re:When I multitask... by digitalgiblet · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is total crap! I'm posting this, changing the CD and driving right now! I can certainly

    21. Re:When I multitask... by c6gunner · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So what you are saying is that you are only stupid on occasion?

      90% of people are stupid on occasion. The other 10% are stupid all the time.

    22. Re:When I multitask... by Movi · · Score: 1

      You have the Spidey-Sense!

      Something bit you when you were on a science tour?

    23. Re:When I multitask... by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A 60mph speed delta is a lot better for everyone involved than 120mph, especially when you consider that kinetic energy is 1/2m(V^2).

    24. Re:When I multitask... by michaelhood · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So I guess that makes a good argument for putting walls across interstates?

      Or not letting stupid people drive giant metal buses.

    25. Re:When I multitask... by michaelhood · · Score: 1

      This happened right in front of me on the way home one night. The guy behind him reported that he was paying a lot of attention to a little box in his hand...

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/28154298@N05/sets/72157605928214101/detail/

      Most of that will probably buff right out..

    26. Re:When I multitask... by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 2, Funny

      Some people can actually drive.

      Maybe. But how many can text?

    27. Re:When I multitask... by Queltor · · Score: 1

      I'll be sure to watch that video tomorrow morning.

      It should complement my breakfast, which I always eat while driving to work, and I've been itching to test the video capabilities of my new smartphone.

    28. Re:When I multitask... by Onymous+Coward · · Score: 1

      texting != not paying attention

      Interesting. I feel like there may be some truth to this. Inattention and texting may not necessarily be concomitant. Kind of like how eating a lot of sugary and fatty foods != getting fat. On the other hand, the link is overwhelmingly the tendency.

      Ah, it's a matter of degrees, not a binary "I pay attention". Texting doubtlessly impairs your ability to drive to some degree. It just could be that with you texting doesn't impair you badly, and you might have a far greater buffer of driving skill to detract from before things get necessarily dangerous. Numerically this might look like:

      You:

      • 95 units of driving skill
      • -10 units of texting impairment

      Average:

      • 70 units of driving skill
      • -25 units of texting impairment

      One thing to keep in mind is that there isn't any rigid cutoff — safety isn't entirely determined by your available attention/skill, but the situation as well. Cruising in light traffic requires maybe 25 units total, easy peasy. So generally people think it's safe for them to text. But shit happens. We all know it. And it happens on the highway. And when it does, it's serious.

      • 25 units - cruising in light traffic
      • 50 units - lane changing in light traffic
      • 65 units - car in front brakes aggressively
      • 70 units - car next lane over attempts to merge into your lane
      • 85 units - car in front slams brakes

      Without texting you could have avoided your airbag nose break.

    29. Re:When I multitask... by orev · · Score: 1

      Texting while driving means you're not paying attention. Period. That you think that you are paying attention even further shows how badly you've misjudged yourself. You cannot do both things at once, no matter how many times you've watched "Fast and Furious" or how often you think that the rules of physics don't apply to you. This is not a video game. You are driving a deadly weapon that just happens to be a vehicle. People's lives are at stake, not just yours.

    30. Re:When I multitask... by Jaroslav.Tucek · · Score: 1

      The parent'd better be dead ... for the belly stab.

    31. Re:When I multitask... by cmdr_tofu · · Score: 1

      I'm watching the video on my smartphone, but it's really hard to pay attention and make this post to /. as I'm driving in pretty heavy traffic now.

    32. Re:When I multitask... by Lemming42 · · Score: 1

      People that talk on their cell phones while driving, are obviously distracted and drive like they're retarded. Crashing into stationary objects isn't the only hazard these morons face. Pissing off other motorists and getting your dumb ass shot is also a possibility. I for one have felt this impulse on more that one occasion while following some imbecile, talking on their cell phone while trying to stay between the ditches.

      Personally, I am all for imposing very large fines for people using cell phones while driving. This is already the case on all military bases. I think it's time to place new laws to include all other roads as well.

      In your case, texting while driving: Your eyes are not on the road; Both hands are doing something else instead of piloting your large conglomeration of steel barreling down the road. I'm having some difficulty putting a suitable punishment for you, my friend. Any first thoughts I'm having are not good for you.

      What about those of us who have been talking/texting while driving for 5/10/15 years with no accidents?

      Should we suffer because there are other people who are bad at knowing the right/wrong situations to divide their attention and who are obviously incapable of talking and keeping the wheel straight?

      Doesn't the current way of things (punishing those who drive recklessly regardless of whether they're on the phone or not) make more sense?

    33. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, that video will be dismissed by stupid people.

      Fixed that for you.

    34. Re:When I multitask... by Mozk · · Score: 1

      If you can remember your passwords, you're doing something wrong.

      Just set up a master password with Firefox and get some auto-login addon like Secure Login or use a program like KeePass or Password Safe.

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      No existe.
    35. Re:When I multitask... by spacefiddle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Please consider never providing contrived works of fiction as "proof" for important issues.

      I can't stand this "scared straight" crap. It undermines the real issue by relegating it to the same level as any other movie special effects. It's like the "crack kills" campagins of the late 80s and early 90s. The only problem with extreme, over the top, graphic fakes is you're showing them to kids who watch graphic horror for fun and have, themselves, done exactly what you're telling them will cause Certain Doom, many time - with no ill effects. For drugs, telling people they'll overdose and die on the first hit only works if the target of your BS has never tried it, or doesn't know anyone who's tried it, or doesn't go out themselves the next day and try it - and not die. Now your credibility is zero, and you'll never get their attention again.

      Leave marketing to consumer goods. Provide real examples for real issues.

    36. Re:When I multitask... by dotgain · · Score: 1

      Should we suffer because there are other people who are bad at knowing the right/wrong situations to divide their attention and who are obviously incapable of talking and keeping the wheel straight?

      I'm afraid it looks that way. Let's say you're a helicopter pilot. In my opinion, if you can solo-pilot a helicopter, you're more than capable of driving + [texting | talking] a car at the same time, those two activities are nowhere near as demanding as hovering + radio calling + checking temperatures & pressures + controlling in all three dimensions. But there's no way you'll get a special exemption under the law. The cops are allowed to speed, on the grounds that they are trained and have high-visibility paint jobs & lights. But even if you could train yourself and get a high-visibility paint job yourself, you still won't be exempt.

      Here in New Zealand a law is about to be introduced on November 1 specifically banning phoning or texting while driving, despite the existence of "Careless driving" which already covers any ace of not paying due attention to the task. While I don't like arbitrary laws when more general ones seem more suitable, if it results in our drivers taking better care (and believe me they need to here) the net result will be good IMO.

    37. Re:When I multitask... by dlthomas · · Score: 1

      That strip shows polling behavior, not interrupt driven. Interrupts are my preferred method of dealing with the world. How much time have you wasted checking email or Slashdot when there was nothing new? I know the figure is pretty high for me... That said, context switches are indeed expensive.

      What I find works best for me is an unobtrusive notification, that I can address when I've wrapped up my current train of thought - the CS analogue would be a top-half/bottom-half split in my interrupt handler. The top half notices that my phone has beeped, and I schedule it for later.

    38. Re:When I multitask... by tyrione · · Score: 1

      When I multitask, I can feel the lack of attention that I'm devoting to certain things. For example, when I talk on the phone or text while driving. I mentally feel it.

      [sarcasm]So could my ex-wives. That might explain being single again. Either that or they were so damn mind-numbingly boring I was easily distracted back to the computer and engineering.[/sarcasm]

    39. Re:When I multitask... by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      You cannot crash a helicopter into another helicopter in ten seconds. (In fact, you'd have trouble deliberately crashing a helicopter into another helicopter or airplane within five minutes if you suddenly turned suicidal.)

      Vehicles in the air can be ignored for minutes before something bad happens except during takeoff or landing, and I assure you that pilots have their full concentrations on that.

      Cars, OTOH, require reaction within three or four seconds at all times. Except when they are stopped in traffic.

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    40. Re:When I multitask... by tyrione · · Score: 1

      This video is a good argument for why highways should have a dividing wall in the middle. This texting driver would have merely scraped that wall rather than pile into another car at ~120 miles an hour.

      Another video worth watching is the one where a U.S. busdriver is texting, and slams into a stopped car on the interstate.

      How about a 50 ft divider between opposing directions with a 10 ft drop [25 degree slope]? That way, we don't get a real life game of elastic/plastic collisions and just drivers disappearing from view when they cross over.

    41. Re:When I multitask... by Antony-Kyre · · Score: 1

      The question comes down to...
      Is it smart to operate a two ton piece of metal flying down the road at speeds excess of 5 miles per hour while you are just a "little" distracted, perhaps only using one hand to operate the vehicle, etc.?

    42. Re:When I multitask... by Ironica · · Score: 1

      People that talk on their cell phones while driving, are obviously distracted and drive like they're retarded.

      All the ones you notice, anyway.

      You ever just sat at a busy corner and took inventory for an hour? There are a lot of "retarded" drivers NOT talking on the phone, and a lot of people talking on the phone and driving perfectly normally. It's a confirmation bias that leads you to think there's a correlation.

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    43. Re:When I multitask... by idlehanz · · Score: 1

      When I multitask, I can feel the lack of attention that I'm devoting to certain things. For example, when I talk on the phone or text while driving. I mentally feel it.

      You will definitely feel it (for a second), and not just mentally but physically as well, when you crash into something or someone when you drive while texting.

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    44. Re:When I multitask... by dotgain · · Score: 1

      Not my point. What I'm saying is: If you're one of the few people that's got what it takes to solo-pilot a helicopter, chances are you've got what it takes to handles cellphones + cars. Point being, some people are better at some things than others, I'd wager that most pilots are excellent drivers due to their discipline at handling someone much more demanding - I never intended to start some analogy between General Aircraft and Road Traffic.

    45. Re:When I multitask... by Onymous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, no. That's more oversimplification.

      If you want to get crazily oversimplified, we should be banning radios in cars. And passengers. Any "little" distraction.

    46. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that supposed to make it ok?

      I rarely shoot guns around populated areas. It's stupid and I have only done it a few times.

    47. Re:When I multitask... by dgen · · Score: 1

      I know exactly what you mean! its like a saturation point has been reached - I guess something has got to give, after all, were not machines

    48. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A few weeks ago I was almost run over by some moron who was texting while he pulled into a parking lot. I waited for him to get out of his car then ran up and punched him in the face. Next time something like that happens, I'm not only beating the shit out of the person but I'll also trash their car.

      Just a friendly warning :)

    49. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Radios and passengers don't require you to take your eyes off the road. Texting does.

    50. Re:When I multitask... by DamienNightbane · · Score: 1

      Funny, I have no issues holding conversations on MSN while driving, even using all the correct spelling, punctuation, and grammar, and probably manage to type faster than most people do at keyboards. The difference between my "texting" and what the idiot in the video was doing is that when I do it, I'm driving first and texting second. I keep the majority of my focus on the road and only key in a few characters at a time every few seconds.

      Seems to me that this video is a better example of why women shouldn't be allowed to drive than an example of why I shouldn't be texting while driving.

    51. Re:When I multitask... by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      Giant wooden buses, on the other hand...

    52. Re:When I multitask... by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      If you can remember your passwords, you're doing something wrong.

      Like trusting putting everything anyone needs to imitate you in one convenient location?

    53. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice idea, but epic fail when you're not at your own computer...

    54. Re:When I multitask... by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      If you can remember your passwords, you're doing something wrong.

      Or you've got a mind like a steel ... umm ... something.

    55. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about those of us who have been talking/texting while driving for 5/10/15 years with no accidents?

      Even though you haven't gotten into an accident all those years of talking/texting while driving, how sure are you of not causing an accident?

    56. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally I think this is a great idea. I honestly would like to see something like a $10,000 fine / 10 years in jail for using cellphones while driving. Just consider it attempted murder and bam! There you go.

    57. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      other way round I think...

    58. Re:When I multitask... by Tycho · · Score: 1

      Nice, but I don't fancy dying slowly of thirst because I fell off the roadway. This would be one case where dying of hypothermia during the winter might be preferable. Another fun option - being burned to death in a roaring inferno.

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    59. Re:When I multitask... by shiftless · · Score: 1

      Well, your conjecture is wrong. Yes, there are many people who are bad at something and overrate their abilities. There are also many who are good at the same thing and underrate their abilities. There are also plenty of people who are bad and they know it, and plenty who are good and they know it.

      I'm good at text messaging while driving, and I know that I'm good at it. I know there are a lot of dumb asses out there who can't manage it, and that's unfortunate. Those people should be pulled over and ticketed for driving unsafely. Instead the cops are too busy writing easy, bullshit tickets like speeding and seatbelt violations.

    60. Re:When I multitask... by ShoulderOfOrion · · Score: 1

      Off-topic correction: hitting a non-moving wall at 60MPH is the same thing as hitting a car of equal mass coming directly at you at the same speed you're traveling. There is no '60 vs 120 mph' delta. The delta is '60 to 0 in the same distance' in both cases.

    61. Re:When I multitask... by mad+flyer · · Score: 1

      Crosscheck for planes with a/p in controlled areas can be up to 10 minutes...

      That means you can schtoup teh waitress and wash your hands without taking any kind of risks.

      Best, usually if you start screwing with the plane attitude, the best way to recover it is to let the control go.

      Even at slow speed in my parking, more than 10 second without my hands on the steering wheel would result in a fender bender.

      Can't compare both. Flying is just too different/much safer.

    62. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These types of videos (staged) are completely ridiculous. I was laughing my ass off when her friend in the passenger seat banged her head on the dash!

      Do us all a favor and stop spreading this filth.... captcha: goodwill

    63. Re:When I multitask... by Andrei+D · · Score: 1

      If we weren't brilliant from time to time then we would be stupid all the time

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    64. Re:When I multitask... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I text while I am driving. Its not a problem really. For me at least because I pay attention. The problem is, not paying attention while driving.

      Don't you think you contradict yourself somewhat? If looking down at a little box rather than looking at the road doesn't constitute "not paying attention" then I don't know what does. Taking a shower? Wood carving?

      You must be one of those better than average drivers. Just like everyone else.

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    65. Re:When I multitask... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      we should be banning radios in cars. And passengers. Any "little" distraction.

      There have been many studies on distraction while driving. Do some research - perhaps you'll look less like an idiot in future.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    66. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are the SI units of driving skill and texting impairment? You realize that if they aren't dimensionally equivalent then it's invalid to add or subtract them like that.

      I see what you're trying to do, but it would have been much clearer if you'd used dice modifiers.

    67. Re:When I multitask... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I cbn texy fine whil dr ;#$ ....no carrier

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    68. Re:When I multitask... by IAmKidding · · Score: 0

      People in my city (pune)...drive 2-wheelers while talking over the phone..and they actully drive from one light to another..at times do break the lights. its so funny to watch that..they tilt their head in like 50degree and the phone is in the gap of head-and-shoulder. :) so they are doing multi-tasking- 1. breaking the light 2. talking over the phone (somtimes business negotiation..god) 3. driving 4. what-ever-possible with eyes and nose open for it. :P

    69. Re:When I multitask... by bemymonkey · · Score: 1

      So hitting a non-moving wall while going 60mph is the same as hitting a wall moving towards you at 60mph, while you're still also going 60mph? You're aware that the closing speed is doubled when the wall is also moving, right?

    70. Re:When I multitask... by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      Please watch this video [bbc.co.uk] and reconsider your habit of texting while driving.
      "A shocking video has been made for pupils in an attempt to stop car crashes caused by the driver texting while driving.

      The short film, starring young actors from south Wales, shows a teenage girl killing four people after she uses her mobile phone to send a text."

      So lemme get this straight you as asking us to watch a governement propoganda film?

      Can't you find any real videos of such accidents?

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    71. Re:When I multitask... by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      Of course what happens in a crash depends on more than just the relative speed.

      If say a train (more realisitic than your moving wall) and a car are both moving at 60MPH towards each other for a combined closing speed then when they crash the car will absorb a huge ammount of energy very suddenly and be almost completely crushed. The train will likely keep going with minimal damage.

      If two cars are both moving at 60MPH towards each other then damage should (theoretically) be equally split so the affect should be the same (same ammount of engergy dissipated in each car) as a single car moving at 60mph and hitting an immovable object.

      So the GP is kind of right if we model a wall as an immovable object (which depending on the wall in quesion may or may not be a good model) and the car hits it head on then it probablly is as bad as a head on collision.

      A sanely designed wall/barrier system will be designed so it is far more likely that a care makes a glancing blow into a barrier/wall and get deflected (so most of the energy in the car stays as kenetic energy in roughly it's original direction).

      Plus there are a wide variety of vehicles on the roads, when say a truck hits a car you have a situation similar (but less extreme) than the one I mentioned above with the train.

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    72. Re:When I multitask... by IAmKidding · · Score: 0

      People in my city drive 2 wheeler while talking on the phone..this is how it looks.---

      person is tilted in 45degree
      phone is in the gap-of-ear-shoulder-region (why not hands-free...bluetooth is expensive..and earphone is big hassle to carry)
      and cutting the light while doing all this..
      if possible..watching few birds on the road. :P

      and yet..no one accident that involves people on these bikes. :)

      i guess..people here dont FEEL that :)

    73. Re:When I multitask... by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      Since you asked nicely, I googled this just for you

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    74. Re:When I multitask... by ShoulderOfOrion · · Score: 1

      Exactly. That's why I mentioned equal mass.

      It all depends on acceleration from your frame of reference, which is simply change of velocity over time (deceleration if the sign is negative--same thing). From the point of view of the driver, two cars of equal mass and head-on velocities have the same deceleration as a car hitting the infamous 'immovable object'. Hit a train head-on, and the train driver feels little acceleration (change in velocity) while the car driver experiences a huge change in velocity (positive to negative) and the huge corresponding acceleration.

      That's why modern racecars are designed to disintegrate on impact with things like walls. In the old days, the cars would be built tough, and when they hit walls they would come out in good shape but the driver inside would be mush. These days, the cars fall apart, dissipating kinetic energy and slowing the rate of deceleration, destroying the car but saving the driver in the process.

    75. Re:When I multitask... by Onymous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Follow the thread. Comments exist in context.

    76. Re:When I multitask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your opinion of SFW and my opinion of SFW do not intersect.

    77. Re:When I multitask... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Yes, but you interpret the effect wrongly. The right way is to observer that when teo objects moving at he same speed and having the same mass crash frontally, the area of impact is stationary! True, the energy set free is double the normal one (not squared, look at the concept of "impulse" for an explanation), but it goes into two cars, i.e. for one car it is the same as crashing into a stationary wall.

      As an alternate appriach, you can change the reference system: If you Take a car crashing into a wall at 120km/h, the equivalent for a car going 60km/h and the wall comming at it with 60km/h. So far so good. But in the moment of crash, the reference system stops, since it is fixed to the wall.! And there is your mistake. You assume the reference system to continue moving...

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    78. Re:When I multitask... by bemymonkey · · Score: 1

      Good point. I really need to freshen up my Physics (lack of) knowledge :)

    79. Re:When I multitask... by Lord_Byron · · Score: 1

      Mostly because even with paying some attention to the phone, I'm pretty sure I'd notice a crash around me.

    80. Re:When I multitask... by tuxgeek · · Score: 1

      People have been driving drunk for decades too.
      Only after the death toll of innocents and children has the problem been resolved with loss of the driving privilege and jail time penalties imposed on those that do.

      Driving is not a right, it is a privilege. Those that talk on cell phones while driving are distracted and are not paying attention to what they are doing. If you think you can do this with any degree of safely, you are deluded. To text while driving is the same as leaving the drivers seat, hopping in the back seat and typing email on your laptop. You are just not there to perform the task at hand, which is controlling a 2000+ pound object barreling down the road. If assholes like you feel you have a right to text while driving, then people like me should have a right to shoot your dumb ass as we choose just to thin the excessive population of morons.

      Just because you have been doing this for years and not been killed yet, only means you have been lucky. Your time will come, this is a given. Much like Russian roulette.

      Please do as your name "Lemming" implies and throw yourself off a cliff. Problem solved
      I realize this post sounds harsh, but sometimes tough love is warranted.

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  2. Makes sense by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People with attention-deficit problems are probably the ones who are most likely to attempt to multitask.

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    1. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Let's not medicalize this with "attention-deficit" bullshit.

      They're just impatient gimme-gimme motherfuckers who want instant gratification and aren't willing to have patience to do a good job and wait for a reward. The sooner they half-ass the boring part, the sooner they get to fuck off and stuff their brains with Skittles, MySpace, and CounterStrike.

      -- Ethanol-fueled

    2. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or people with bosses who put so much on their list of projects/tasks and change it so often that they don't have any choice other than to multi-task and to submit a purchase requisition for a prayer rug

    3. Re:Makes sense by maudface · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "attempt"? It's not generally voluntary IME, I simply can't take my mind off any background stimulus while attempting to focus on something, background conversations, radio, television, a clatter of someone elses keyboard, I can't stop my focus drifting to all of them when I'm not medicated. Multitasking is indeed hugely overrated if it was practical ADD/ADHD wouldn't be considered medical conditions.

    4. Re:Makes sense by crazytisay · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Interesting results, but I find flaw with the tests. If we're really discussing two different types of absorbtion, purely visual and audio/visual, and the tests are made up of entirely visual questions, aren't the researchers tipping the scales in favor of the purely visual non-multitaskers? From the article: "A survey defined two groups: those who routinely consumed multiple media such as internet, television and mobile phones, and those who did not." The ones not consuming multiple media are consuming what? My guess would be books and newsprint, and if so, are they visual learners? How did they control for intelligence level? If the visual group is on average smarter than the audio/visual group, would that not also skew the results? More information is needed and less conjecture.

    5. Re:Makes sense by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Conversely, I believe that being forced to multitask by my environment has created attention deficit disorder in me. I can't pay attention to things like I used to, and staying focused is very difficult for me. Even if NOTHING is demanding my attention, I feel like I have a compulsion to switch to a different task every few minutes. It's horrible. I used to be able to focus on a single task for long stretches, sometimes I could read a book for 14 hours or more in a day if I was sufficiently interested in it. Now, every three paragraphs or so, I feel like I want to check my email.

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    6. Re:Makes sense by metlin · · Score: 1

      Aye. I could never understand the need to multitask, and instead prefer to just do one task at a time. Of course, I do catch a lot of flak from colleagues and friends because I refuse to do more than one thing at a time.

      In fact, I cannot understand folks that listen to music and work -- I do like having my headphones on, but that's only because it blocks out the external noise that's distracting.

      Sadly, I'm probably in the wrong line of business since my job does require a lot of social interaction and I get pulled every which way (and having headphones on when I work is the surest way to grab attention the wrong way). But even then, I prefer to dedicate my time to any one thing that I'll be doing.

      Except fiddling with my phone in boring meetings, of course.

    7. Re:Makes sense by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      People with attention-deficit problems are probably the ones who are most likely to attempt to multitask.

      That and people with managers who are constantly sending fire drills their way, or people who have constant IM interruptions at work. I work somewhere where IM is actually a work tool, and I find that I tend to be a lot more productive when I forget to log in. Even if I tell people to go away, or to file a ticket, getting an IM really breaks up my workflow.

    8. Re:Makes sense by Swizec · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In fact, I cannot understand folks that listen to music and work -- I do like having my headphones on, but that's only because it blocks out the external noise that's distracting.

      I'm one of those people who can't work in quiet places. How do you do it? How do you keep your paranoia of something jumping you from behind so low as to be able to concentrate in a quiet environment?

      Personally I need something loud to shut out the outside world, I don't actually process what I hear, I just use it to swamp my audio input so I can't hear myself think (for some reason I hate listening to my internal dialogues) and so I can disregard any audio input as simply being part of the din, thus being able to focus very well.

      I think this is partly because most animals (humans are animals) have an instant override in their brain for sudden audio input, since that increases the likelihood of survival in a dangerous situation.

    9. Re:Makes sense by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I used to be able to focus on a single task for long stretches, sometimes I could read a book for 14 hours or more in a day if I was sufficiently interested in it. Now, every three paragraphs or so, I feel like I want to check my email.

      I feel that way sometimes too, but I think it's partly because my standard for what's interesting is a lot higher than it was when I was younger. Consequently, (1) there's less stuff that seems worthy of that 12-hour focus marathon, and (2) it's likely that anything worthy is going to require more effort than the average worthy thing did when I was younger.

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    10. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous+Cowar · · Score: 1

      They probably pause or mute the tv when they get a phone call and turn off the tv when they have company over. They may have the radio on while driving but turn it off when they get a call.

    11. Re:Makes sense by EastCoastSurfer · · Score: 1

      In fact, I cannot understand folks that listen to music and work

      I think you're confusing listening with having music on as background noise. I have music on while I work all the time, but it doesn't mean I can ever tell you what song is playing or what the last song was. When I listen to music I focus on the music itself.

    12. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous+Cowar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's stress, you need a vacation. Take a good solid 2 weeks, you'll probably crash and sleep for the first few days, then get really really bored, and after the boredom clears up, you'll find that you can read a book for 14 hours again.

    13. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, no. I have ADD type issues which is why I prefer not to multitask. I can't multitask for shit. If I have to do anything other than what I'm working on, even for a split second, I will probably lose focus and not be able to complete the original task because I find it impossible to get back in the groove.

      I take this to extremes, I can barely eat/sleep/whatever and work on a task. I need and want 100% focus on a single task at a time.

    14. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just FYI, what you describe is not the same thing as ADD. With what you describe, sufficient willpower will keep you on task. With ADD, you would unconsciously drift to another line of thought not related to the task at hand, only realizing what had happened after potentially several minutes.

    15. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I went through this. In case you haven't found workarounds--Do you like to drive? Or better yet, exercise?

      If so, driving or exercise may solve this. I can multitask well, I just hate multitasking, and I found I eventually couldn't focus. Basically, if you feel like crap when multitasking like you aren't getting things done, you tend to lose the ability to focus when a single task is at hand too.

      I found that exercising (I used to swim, i.e. 2 hours) helped. Also, take a drive; turn off the cell phone, turn off the radio, and know a 1-2 hour round trip that's not stressful. I find a weekend trip to hike or bike path is nearly ideal--drive to a trail 1-1.5hrs, hike or bike 2 hours, drive back. Takes an afternoon, but it forces you to focus at the same time as wander (you focus on walking, but easier stretch you tend to think about your life i.e. family, work, stresses, the past week, the next week), get exercise, and let your mind recharge.

    16. Re:Makes sense by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 1

      I use the music to block out the external noise, because my headphones do not reduce the outside noise enough to do so. I learned at an early age to disregard familiar music in the background, but I have a very hard time ignoring people shuffling, typing, coughing, and talking in other rooms.

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    17. Re:Makes sense by rolfwind · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think multitasking is detrimental in other ways. When it was a big buzzword and something taught in our studying class (yes, multitasking, as a strategy of getting studying done in your busy life... like in-between stupid timewasters), I just noticed how before when I could think through something like a challenging math problem or concept, even if it was hard to do so, I had to start relying more and more on the back of the book and work the answers backwards. If I tried to think too hard, I went into a mode looking for something else to do as an unconscious and unspoken excuse of "My head hurts, let's do something easier."

      Multitasking is sometimes a necessary evil, but companies and schools shouldn't be looking for ways to increase it.

    18. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you need to inform your boss that his requests are unreasonable. If he continues failing to properly manage the people under him then go to HIS boss and explain how productivity is suffering because you are being overloaded.

      Walk out exactly at 5 o'clock too. Refuse to do work "off the clock" without being properly compensated, and never take work home to finish on your own time. Your employer can only take advantage of you as much as you allow them to.

    19. Re:Makes sense by jabjoe · · Score: 1

      It only makes sense with tasks where you are working end to end and know how to do it. If you don't know where to go next, swapping tasks until you do can make you more productive. No point banging your head at some thing if you aren't making real progress. Let your subconscious chew on it while you do something else. (I'm under no illusions, my subconscious is smarter then me, I'm just a sub routine! ;-) )

      If I'm interested and know exactly what needs doing, the music will run out, email builds up, hours go by and I don't notice. If I'm stuck and uninterested, the silence is oppressive and I need distraction. If I'm stuck and uninterested but force myself through it, the solution is a hack waiting to be replaced. (Of course some times, it just needs doing, and there may be no "nice" way.)

      I certainly wouldn't be more productive in a silence nazti's boot camp. I'd leave for some where more creative pretty quick.

      The brain is going to be good at configuring itself. I think this study was looking at the wrong kind of multitasking. Test them to see if they are better at multitasking what they have been multitasking.

    20. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lets not be a complete jackass, would we?

      I actually have ADD...not the pansy-ass shit that everyone claims, but medically diagnosed I'm incapable of concentration on one single point of stimulus ADD.

      The only way I can function on one single task is to have some form of distractiona round me...whether radio, TV, /., co-workers jawing away on the phone, whatever.

      And yes, every now and then the distraction steals my attention from the principal task, and when that happens I regroup and continue on.

      Without some form of distraction existing, I'm a blubbering non-functional member of society who absolutely cannot concentrate on the task at hand.

      So yeah, I multitask. And am I as perfect as one person who can focus exclusively on a single task? Fuck no...but without distraction existing I'm not functional.

    21. Re:Makes sense by Matheus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I just plain don't have the time to focus on any one thing for that long.. but anyway I digress:

      The same way a computer multi-tasks is exactly why I find this study is flawed. The preface the study by saying that they were trying to find out why multi-taskers could do so so well. They then threw out this premise by saying that these multi-taskers single threaded performance was low while forgetting that their group in question was known to be good at multi-tasking.

      I'll use, for example, a box I'm currently beating up for performance testing. Nice spanking new Nehalem based dual-quad w/ 48GB ram. When in Hyper-threaded mode the per-logical-core performance goes down by a significant amount (say 25%) but you have double the logical core to work with SO if you have a single threaded application to run you will do better on the non-HT mode but an application that can multi-thread well will do better on the HT mode.

      I see similar situations here: Aside from questioning their test group (there is a big difference between someone with ADHD and say your average /.er who multi-tasks like most people breathe {(c)The Core ;)} but anyway.. I agree that when I multi-task my per-task focus goes down a measurable amount BUT as long as I add in some protection routines to make sure that reduced performance != reduced accuracy I am able to accomplish more / unit time than someone who can only do one thing at a time even if they can maybe do a single task a bit faster than I can.

      In my current job I find it impossible to NOT multi-task and, given the large amount of distraction coming in, someone who Can't multi-task will suffer because they are not allowed the single threaded environment they need.

    22. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tl;dr

    23. Re:Makes sense by Gizzmonic · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You're too lazy to get a login and yet you expect us to value your comment? Stuff it up your bunghole!

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    24. Re:Makes sense by budgenator · · Score: 1

      Hyper-focusing isn't inconsistent with ADD, and 2 year olds tend to break you of hyper-focusing very quickly.

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    25. Re:Makes sense by rizole · · Score: 1

      Sounds like having kids.

    26. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A salaried position means that there is no expectation that you will get anything done working 8 hours a day. However, I have made it a habit to leave at 5 unless I can actually make real progress by staying a little later.

    27. Re:Makes sense by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      It's not that he's too lazy to get a login, it's that he keeps getting distracted by shiny objects and flashing lights.

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    28. Re:Makes sense by your_neighbor · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's a good explanation why several students are using drugs for awareness enhancement, like Methylphenidate (Ritalin), even if they dont have a disorder.

    29. Re:Makes sense by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      That is some fantastic career advice given the scale of the current recession and the massive job losses across pretty much every sector of the economy.

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    30. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking as someone with ADHD, I doubt that being forced to multitask by your environment caused you to develop forebrain hypometabolism, but if it did you have my condolences (you have them anyway for your situation).

    31. Re:Makes sense by St.Creed · · Score: 1

      Not sure if this can be done in the USA (cultural stuff etc.) but where I used to work we used plannings and when my manager had a task he'd just ask me where it would fit in with the current tasks. If any of our customers wanted it done faster they'd have to arrange with another (internal) customer for the work to shift around. This shifted responsibility out of our department to the customers themselves. Which is easier for both the workers *and* the boss as well.

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    32. Re:Makes sense by Devout_IPUite · · Score: 1

      My biggest flaw with the test was that they were testing multi-taskers ability to single task... Not their ability to multi-task. A good test for mutlitasking would be to press a button when a new odd number came up and say the vowel when a new vowel came up. Test self-reported multi-taskers and self-reported single taskers at multi-taskings... Maybe?

    33. Re:Makes sense by Ironica · · Score: 1

      In fact, I cannot understand folks that listen to music and work

      I think you're confusing listening with having music on as background noise.

      I have the same issue as the GP. The only music that I can use as "background noise" is classical. No lyrics, not even very interesting. I don't particularly like classical music, but it doesn't overtly bother me like jazz does.

      If it's music I actually *like*, I'll get distracted from the task at hand and listen to it.

      But, different strokes for different folks. I remember one time, my ex walked into the living room to ask me a question while I was sitting and reading a book. While talking, he picked up the TV remote, hit the Power button, surfed to a channel showing something vaguely interesting, put down the remote, concluded the exchange, and left the room. With the TV on. While I, on the other hand, don't turn on the TV unless I intend to watch it, because if it's on, I *will* pay attention to it.

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    34. Re:Makes sense by idlehanz · · Score: 1

      One of the activities that has helped me is to "get away from it all". Normally, once a year we go backpacking and get a couple days back into the mountains. No cell phones, no texting, no noise from commercials. It helps clear the mind and get focused and energized for a return to the real world.

      Where I can then return to my normal attention deficit (multitasking).

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    35. Re:Makes sense by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      You're not the only one. I was diagnosed with ADD last year; I'm in my mid-thirties. Like you, I used to read a lot of books; these days, I basically only read in the rest room (and most of the time, I use my phone to read email instead of a book, even though it's connected to Project Gutenberg). It's sad, because there's still so much more to learn and enjoy, but I've basically turned off that input method.

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    36. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be an American. In most of Europe we work less, get paid more, we have rights as employees and don't live in constant fear of losing our job.

    37. Re:Makes sense by Tolkien · · Score: 1

      I have ADD and I agree.

    38. Re:Makes sense by EastCoastSurfer · · Score: 1

      I have your same issue with TV. I cannot just have it on in the background. Either I'm watching it, or it's off.

      Back to the music though, I listen to all types while working. Normally I only listen while coding and not while deeply thinking. By the time I start typing any code I have the problem mostly figured out and music keeps me focused. Interesting aside is that coworkers can tell what music is playing based on how hard I'm tapping the keys on the keyboard. Classical and jazz and the key presses are light to normal. If some heavy metal comes on my key presses get noticeably harder lol... I have tried to figure out if I end up typing to the rhythm of whatever song is on, but it's one of those things that once you think about measuring it, it doesn't happen.

    39. Re:Makes sense by evolvearth · · Score: 1

      I meant to scroll down and accidentally modded your post flamebait--I didn't even get to read it! Anyway, posting to cancel out inappropriate mod points

    40. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wowie, you too? I remember when my friend was medically diagnosed. He ripped a few ads out of Home 'n' Garden magazine and told his doctor, "I think I have this and I want free amphetamines" and now his insurance company pays Big Pharma to let him be a corporate-sponsored drug addict! He gets to tell chicks he has ADD and he gets an extra hour to take exams!

      Do we honestly need to go over this "data is not the plural of anecdote" business AGAIN? Yes, AD(/H)D is over-diagnosed, when it's often just too much sugar or boredom or bad parenting or plain old boisterousness, but that doesn't mean it isn't a legitimate disease. I have not been diagnosed with it, nor do I believe I have it, so I'm not reacting out of self-interest - but it pisses me off when people make ludicrous claims to counter a ludicrous situation. Remember, the phrase "fighting fire with fire" INTENTIONALLY has a negative connotation (imagine if someone literally fought fire with fire, you'd think they were mad!).

      His mommy and daddy bought him a Commodore 64 and an Atari and his own TV when he was 2. After that, he always got everything he wanted. His parents would rather throw a few dollars at him than listen to him scream and kick his feet when things got too quiet.

      Sounds like the only disease here is the green eyed monster..

      That's funny, I know a lot of people who can concentrate and savor a single task or leisure activity. I don't know exactly how they ended up that way, but I imagine that it had something to do with their parents sending them out the door on their bikes or skateboards once in a while.

      That's probably true. But that certainly doesn't disprove the fact that there are people who legitimately have AD(/H)D.

    41. Re:Makes sense by riondluz · · Score: 1

      Well, everyone has different levels of filtering ability which determine if something is a
      counter-productive distraction, or not.

      But people are multi-tasking all the time, unconsciously. Crossing the street at a busy
      intersection for (a simple) instance, better: rock climbing or scaling a cliff, or a martial arts move
      to thwart an attacker.

      The better you become (through practice), the more unconscious the tasks/steps/process becomes.

      Your 'changing focus' because of a distraction is still single-tasking to a different task until you
      are able to return to what you were doing. I do this all the time, switching focus among tasks
      (either different programming tasks, or say, stopping to IM someone and doing something else until
        i get a reply, etc..). Fact is, I think we all do that to a greater or lesser degree as the
        cost of entry to the rat-race;
      and for which sitting on a beach for a week, tasked to watch a sunrise and the tide recede as our reward.

      Multitasking would be coding and watching CNN at the same time, or day-trading in front of 4 displays
      each with different market makers while on phone w/clients and trying to listen to boss.
      For most people, it's only sustainable for so long.

      For a true multitasker it's a piece of cake (on prima-face evidence). Someone with ADD/ADHD, it's
      said, has something in their genes that predate agrarianism; a hunting instinct, as it were.
      It purportedly gives them an ability to hyper-focus for short periods of time; and I would conject that
      the hyper-focusing is necessary to multi-tasking. E.g. giving equal time to all sensory inputs,
      plus tracking, plus whatever other skills are necessary to make a kill.

      It may suggest that ADHD/ADD individuals CAN multitask effectively, but it does not assert that they
      can sustain that level for extended periods of time.
      Worse, the assertion also includes the fact that the 'agrarian' gene dominates society and dictates
      the 'accepted', mainstream way of doing things; which is why ADD is treated as a disorder instead of simply a different, but equal, characteristic or trait.

      I better get back to work now, or my 'tasking' performance will fall off.

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    42. Re:Makes sense by riondluz · · Score: 1

      "The only music that I can use as "background noise" is classical. No lyrics, not even very interesting. I don't particularly like classical music, but it doesn't overtly bother me like jazz does."

      You may want to look into binaural beats:)

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    43. Re:Makes sense by gr8dude · · Score: 1

      Got the same problem, but with some tweaking I managed to make it less of a problem. The general idea is described here: http://railean.net/index.php/2009/01/04/remove_taskbar_become_more_productive

      Basically, you have to reduce the number of stimuli around you; after a while the need to switch to a different task will get weaker.

    44. Re:Makes sense by tabrnaker · · Score: 1

      Ever tried meditation and breathing exercises?
      The east has a whole body of knowledge dedicated to controlling mind states. Worked for me. :)

  3. tl;dr by LSD-OBS · · Score: 1

    Can anyone make a quick summary for me?

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    1. Re:tl;dr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I could, but I'm doing something else at the moment, so it wouldn't be that good.

  4. Bullshit... by hyperion2010 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... oh look, a butterfly!!!!!!

    1. Re:Bullshit... by A.+B3ttik · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, don't mock the slashdot editors.

  5. I think I have that bumper sticker by snowwrestler · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think I have that bumper sticker on my...hang on, just let me check this e-mail...and get this call...

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  6. Blulsiht! by A.+B3ttik · · Score: 1

    I cna raed slashhhdott adn work at the same tikme.





    syntx errer wtf???

  7. People prefer to complete one task at a time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...because they know from experience that it produces better results. People who habitually multitask do not know how to do a better job, so they think they're good at multitasking. Single-taskers are probably under much more stress though as they aim higher even when multitasking.

    1. Re:People prefer to complete one task at a time... by riondluz · · Score: 1

      "Single-taskers are probably under much more stress though as they aim higher even when multitasking."
      Or, just having more and more single tasks dumped onto their desks.

      "...because they know from experience that it produces better results." ...because they know from 'THEIR OWN' experience that it produces better results.

      Your post is based entirely on your own subjective experience.
        Generally speaking though, you are correct.
      The vast majority of people are wired the same way you are. Its' in the genes.

      That's not to say it applies to everyone. Shit, I've got 16 virtual desktops.
      2 are email and IM
      4 are for databases
      4 are for web coding (xterms and editing sessions, browser windows, etc...)
      a couple are for research (more browser windows running as a different user, xterms of
      edit sessions containing running notes...)
      a couple more contain ssh sessions to remote hosts and may be related to other tasks
      (like firewalls, smtp, dns, ...)

      All this 'stuff' sits through uptime on my workstation every day and I'm constantly switching
      between them as needed. Keeping track of where I am in any given area is a task in and of itself.
      Step away from something for too long and, unless you take copious notes, the thread risks being lost.

      But I would much rather have this env than say a windows box with only one 'screen' doing only one thing at a time. In fact, I could not work that way at all.

      Doing this for 10 or 15 years has made me (IMHO) pretty good at doing 'stuff' that is more or less
      related but very different technically, but I also put a lot of time into making my 'way' work for
      me; above and beyond the 5-9, go home and forget the job, mentality.

         

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  8. Multitasking just has to be done properly by Swizec · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I multitask a lot, but I've only been doing it after learning how a computer does it - you know, that same computer INCAPABLE of real multitasking? Yeah, humans should do it like that as well.

    The trick is to use a divide and conquer algorithm on your tasks and divide them into chunks of just the right size - too small and you'll have too much overhead switching processes, too little and you'll essentially reach a dead-lock situation where everything is waiting for you to finish that one thing.

    What works for me is, for example, reading a chapter of a textbook, followed by a few minutes on slashdot and whatnot, then going back to the book and so forth ad nauseum.

    This way you're always multitasking without actually multitasking and you get a lot more done than just focusing on one task for a few hours, then on another for a few more hours and so on.

    1. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by ThinkWeak · · Score: 1

      I would consider multi-tasking having multiple jobs going at once. This is a daily requirement in my field. I have to manage around 20 employees, streamline processes, stay on top of corporate projects, and still roll up my sleeves to help them with their daily work (due to cut-backs).

      If they want to study how people multi-task, study some people who are actually working and not just watching tv or blogging.

    2. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by TimeTraveler1884 · · Score: 5, Funny

      you know, that same computer INCAPABLE of real multitasking?

      So a pair of conjoined twins is like a Core 2 Duo?

    3. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Swizec · · Score: 3, Informative

      I would consider multi-tasking having multiple jobs going at once. This is a daily requirement in my field. I have to manage around 20 employees, streamline processes, stay on top of corporate projects, and still roll up my sleeves to help them with their daily work (due to cut-backs). If they want to study how people multi-task, study some people who are actually working and not just watching tv or blogging.

      So you've basically set up a combination of polling and interruption events? You do your own thing and once in a while check on background processes, or give them some attention if there's an interupt?

      That's not multitasking, not really anyway. Real multitasking is being able to read while pouring a cup of tea. (for example)

    4. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by value_added · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What works for me is, for example, reading a chapter of a textbook, followed by a few minutes on slashdot and whatnot, then going back to the book and so forth ad nauseum.

      Good for you on being able to schedule your time and attention productively, but the above isn't what I would call multitasking.

      It's been shown that the average attention span runs about 20 minutes. After that, you _will_ lose the ability to concentrate and your mind will naturally wander. This new period lasts about 5 minutes IIRC. Once that ends, you're refreshed enough go back to what you were doing with renewed concentration.

      Mind you, you're free to invoke "willpower" to circumvent that natural ebb and flow, but your performance will suffer, and you'll accomplish half the work for twice the effort. With enough motivation or adrenaline, you'll manage just fine, but like missing few hours from a restful night's sleep to cram more workhours into your day, you'll discover diminishing returns.

      So by all means, do browse Slashdot for a minutes. If your disciplined enough to avoid non-essential or otherwise unproductive activities generally, it'll help you work and get more done.

    5. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Swizec · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's exactly what I try to do. Why waste those 5 minutes when you can shorten them to 2 minutes by doing something else and letting your mind wander effectively?

      The trick is to stop slacking quickly enough and it's really quite tough sometimes :P

      And yes, I know it's not really multitasking, but it looks like multitasking to the outside world.

    6. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by isama · · Score: 1

      If that is true then I'm glad there aren't any octa or hexacore cpus yet :)

    7. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1

      I don't consider that to be multitasking; your brain has a limited attention span, and even if you're capable of focusing for hours on end, your productivity goes down.

      If you take a quick break every hour/half-hour, you can keep your brain functioning at a higher level.

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    8. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Swizec, a Slashdot commenter, exhibits a confident and unaware ignorance typical of the Dunning-Kruger effect

    9. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's been shown that the average attention span runs about 20 minutes. After that, you _will_ lose the ability to concentrate and your mind will naturally wander

      It's also been shown that it takes about 40 minutes to enter flow, at which point your productivity increases. Somehow, these seem contradictory...

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    10. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Anci3nt+of+Days · · Score: 2, Funny

      I knew it - Facebook is essential for study.

    11. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by oji-sama · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Right. I'm pretty sure that when I'll buy next Pratchett my attention span will be a bit longer than 20 minutes ^.^

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    12. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by ThinkWeak · · Score: 1

      I would think that simultaneously tracking multiple resources and projects, while handling other unanticipated events, can be considered multi-tasking. An interrupt doesn't stop the other processes and they still require supervision.

      Is the simple act of reading off of one monitor and typing on another adhere to your real definition of multi-tasking?

    13. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Swizec · · Score: 1

      Reading off of one monitor and typing into the other is still multitasking unless you're simultaneously spellproofing your typing while reading. Not flicking your eyes to and fro, but actually reading the two inputs at once.

      As for the projects, just how real-time supervision do they need? I still think it's more likely you're doing it on a time-slice basis like a CPU.

    14. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Swizec · · Score: 1

      is still NOT multitasking***

      Stupid mistake :D

    15. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Rakishi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There' apparently two different lines of studies that I've found:
      a) The human attention span is somewhere between 6-20 minutes then we zone out.
      b) Productivity takes 20-40 minutes to establish itself in humans. Interruption during that time cause stress and restart the process.

      I can only guess, without any evidence, that each is considering very different types of activities. A meeting may fall under the first while coding or writing may fall under the second. Maybe the activities considered in the second type of study naturally were varied enough to not cause problems. Coding may require many different types of subs tasks so it's inherently not monotonous.

      It'd be nice if someone who knew the subject could comment on this discrepancy.

    16. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      The studies that "show" this are just like BMI. Sure they maybe average, but the actual numbers vary so widely as to make 'average' a meaningless measurement.

    17. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Informative

      The 20 minutes thing generally refers to passive activities like lectures/speeches. It doesn't apply to activities which require active participation.

    18. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AC lolz x2

    19. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I multitask a lot, but I've only been doing it after learning how a computer does it - you know, that same computer INCAPABLE of real multitasking? Yeah, humans should do it like that as well.

      I think you might have a flawed, or at least outdated, definition of "real" multi-tasking.

      Modern computers and OSes indeed do true multi-tasking. In the past, with some OSes such as the early Mac System software, or early Windows, it was more similar to human multitasking as tasks would get swapped out.

    20. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Pollardito · · Score: 1

      The tests in TFA aren't multitasking either. In all but one test described in the article there is only one set of instructions (and the single exception was just a task with two switched modes), meaning that the users were asked to do one single thing and ignore everything else going on around them. That's not a test of multitasking, it's a test of concentration which is the exact opposite way of doing things and probably the biggest casualty of a multi-tasking lifestyle.

    21. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Sinbios · · Score: 1

      I started reading this post and I lost the ability to concentrate about halfway into the second paragraph.

      Not even joking.

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    22. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, that'd be the Athlon 64 x2. Because cojoined twins are HOT.

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    23. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I multitask a lot, but I've only been doing it after learning how a computer does it - you know, that same computer INCAPABLE of real multitasking? Yeah, humans should do it like that as well.

      However, I've noticed that when Management tells me I need to multitask, they don't seem to want to include the 10% dispatcher overhead.

    24. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Mozk · · Score: 1

      Going along with the Latin duo-, the prefix would be sexa-, not hexa-.

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    25. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

      I agree, being a REAL multi tasker myself, I can not allow myself mistakes that the report states we supposedly make...any time , on any day. I would like to see the list of people they used to do the tests, and see how many of them actually have jobs which necessitate multi tasking, or just declare themselves multi taskers.

    26. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Ironica · · Score: 1

      The tests in TFA aren't multitasking either.

      Exactly. What they demonstrated was that people who habitually multitask perform more poorly than people who don't habitually multitask when asked NOT to. What they *should have* done, though, to really be thorough, was to quiz all groups about the blue rectangles afterward. It's likely that the "concentrators" wouldn't have been able to tell you a darned thing about them, but the multitaskers would have actually noticed quite a bit.

      All they showed is, some people concentrate well on a single thing and can block out other influences; other people can't. People who can't are habitual multitaskers.

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    27. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      I was just about to comment that the article seems more like single-task juggling.

      Maybe I'm wrong, but my impression of multitasking was it was dealing with multiple sources of input at the same time.

      So doing all three of those tests at once, and comparing who does the best. I know multitaskers often aren't good at focusing, and as this article demonstrates, aren't that great at quickly switching between single tasks - but how do they deal with multiple simultaneous tasks?

    28. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Ironica · · Score: 1

      BTW, I say this as someone who is not a habitual multitasker... except in the sense that I'm forced to be, because I have two children and have to occasionally do SOMETHING besides pay attention to them. ;-) But I don't consider myself good at it and prefer to concentrate on a single thing at a time.

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    29. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by skiman1979 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Real multitasking is being able to read while pouring a cup of tea. (for example)

      I can multitask certain things. As a matter of fact, while I am typing this response, a coworker just stopped by to talk to me and I am listening to what they have to say. I can contnu tot ype this messge efectivley

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    30. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Khashishi · · Score: 1

      That was certainly true in the past. But, you really ought to upgrade to a dual core brain. Most people have them these days.

    31. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by idlehanz · · Score: 1

      Oh... its called multitasking? I always thought it was attention deficit. That makes me feel better; knowing that I am now good at multitasking rather than being bad at paying attention.

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    32. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by beav007 · · Score: 1

      Obviously, a more controversial, and entertaining conclusion from the study is that:

      Females famously brag about their superior multitasking skills, and claim to use them a lot
      Males multitask less often, and often believe that they are probably worse at it than females due to genetic disadvantage
      Therefore: according to this study, males are actually better at multitasking than females

      Yay for statistics! This kind of study is conducted for the sole purpose of giving us useless numbers, so that we can make crap like this up.

      Disclaimer: I failed statistics.

    33. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This way you're always multitasking without actually multitasking and you get a lot more done than just focusing on one task for a few hours, then on another for a few more hours and so on.

      Yo dawg, I herd you like multitasking so we put a slashdot in yo slashdot so you can goof off while you goof off.

    34. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by CptNerd · · Score: 1

      That's subtle, man. Wish I had mod points...

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    35. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by riondluz · · Score: 1

      Not to diminish the joy of taking a healthy dump, but i often talk on the phone during the process (bet nobody reading this will be calling me anymore!), and always shower and shave at the same time. How's that for multitasking?

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    36. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by isama · · Score: 1

      thanks!

    37. Re:Multitasking just has to be done properly by tabrnaker · · Score: 1

      You can learn to enter flow immediately. Just like you can learn to enter into lucid dreaming from a waking state immediately.
      The west just doesn't know much about subjective states, given that science is obsessed with objectivity.
      BTW, i'm not saying this because some study says so, i'm saying it because i can do it and know others who can as well. Ask most good musicians, you don't have the luxury of taking 40 minutes to get into flow when a song lasts about 3-4 minutes. :)

  9. Typical by Mycroft_514 · · Score: 1

    Define "multitasking" so that people are bound to fail, then measure the failure.

    I define multitasking to include doing more then one task on my computer at a time. The trick is to start a long running BACKGROUND task and then do something requiring more attention in the foreground. It works very well.

    So, I call this study INCOMPLETE. the peole doing it were probably playing video games while measuring their data - LOL!

    1. Re:Typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that was covered in the premise of the study that defined multitasking to be doing several media applications at the same time. (Such as watching TV and chatting on an IM). (TFS, Slashdot.org, retrieved 25/09/09 9:55am).

    2. Re:Typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Regardless of how you define the term the study was about multitasking as they define it. And they certainly aren't the only ones who define multitasking that way. The last few years I've heard over and over again that young people are different, they grew up in a high tech world and their brains are wired for it, they process information in a different way than older people do, they are good at miltitasking as the study defines it, etcetera. It's a myth that needs to be punctured, evolution doesn't work that fast.

      I've worked at a place where new management was full of this nonsense, and to make the workplace ready for the future's workers they actively pushed their new way of working, creating a work environment where you were constantly distracted and where very little actually got done anymore. I left before I burned out. Several people did burn out, including people 20 years younger than me, who were supposed to thrive in an environment like that. It was pretty ugly. While I don't have the illusion anything will get through to those managers, I'm very glad that studies like this are done.

  10. From the people who brought us clippy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Note that one of the researchers behind this, Cliff Nass, was the brains behind Clippy.

    1. Re:From the people who brought us clippy by ElitistWhiner · · Score: 1

      Mod+3 (Informative)

    2. Re:From the people who brought us clippy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      You've got a typo there. You said there were brains behind Clippy.

    3. Re:From the people who brought us clippy by KnownIssues · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Your referenced intrigued me, so I looked into Cliff Nass. There's a very interesting interview with him where he talks about both Microsoft Bob and Clippy. While he defends Bob (and I do see his point), he freely admits to the problems with Clippy--and better--explains why it failed. He seems to be well-respected in the industry for his contributions to the social-aspects of software design.

      I don't know if your intention was to dismiss the research because of Cliff Nass, or if it was just to poke fun, but one might not want to dismiss this research just because Cliff Nass is involved.

    4. Re:From the people who brought us clippy by Bat+Country · · Score: 2, Funny

      Clippy wasn't an inherently bad idea - an assistive agent which used a library of tasks to try to accelerate common jobs and act as an interactive tutorial with options to skip. The problem with Clippy was that the fine lines between "helpful", "too helpful", and "really freaking annoying" move around with increased stupidity - and stupid agents are all we have to work with until somebody figures out strong AI.

      Agents like Clippy are used all the time to train people how to play video games - quite successfully in Valve's "Left 4 Dead," which remembers not only which tutorial elements you've already been fed but which ones it believes you have mastered (and does so with more than a little success).

      I think my biggest problem with Clippy was that its heavy-lidded expression always seemed condescending and kept saying I was "trying" to do things. Hey, Mister, you look like you're trying to write a résumé but can't, because you're a failure. Want me to do it for you and produce something completely unusable?

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    5. Re:From the people who brought us clippy by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      But from what I know, the idea of Clippy came from MS Bob. And both came from Bill Gates' wife. He just couldn't say no to her. Such a big boss, and still spineless at home. ;)
      But as soon as they split, Clippy was gone. Interesting. ;)

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    6. Re:From the people who brought us clippy by Tolkien · · Score: 1

      Considering how much we all love Clippy, I think that fact actually lends credibility to this study. He must have been overworked when he helped concoct Clippy.

  11. Are these really tests of multitasking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm a little puzzled by the tests.

    The last test seemed to test ability to move from one focused task to another focused task, each one consuming 100% of attention.
    I would expect a person with practice focusing on a single task to do well there.

    The first test involved focusing on one object while ignoring distractions. Many of the people who consider themselves multi-taskers have probably trained themselves to be high-novelty seeking and easily distracted. Not saying this is necessarily good, just not clear how this was testing multi-tasking.

    It seems to me a "multi-tasker" would do better at a test that actually tested tracking multiple inputs at once.

    1. Re:Are these really tests of multitasking? by DCheesi · · Score: 1
      This is a really good point, actually. They seem to have tested everything except what this type of multitasker would actually be practiced at: monitoring multiple information streams at once.

      I think the last test was intended to check for this, but the researchers failed to understand the way media-multitaskers work. I think that media-multitaskers generally let their attention flop around between streams on its own, relying on intuition and instinct to draw them to the most interesting and memorable bits of each stream. Asking them to consciously switch their attention between tasks screwed that up completely.

      Note that this is different from the sort of multitasking required to actually perform two active tasks. The researchers obviously failed to make the distinction between true multi-tasking vs. media multi-consumption.

  12. I hate multitasking by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can involve myself in one high-level function and monitor several low-level functions no problem. If I'm cooking and it's a recipe I know, I can have something on the telly in the background. Certainly not a movie or something that requires 100% focus but I can put the Daily Show or Colbert on no problem, just glancing over during the laughs to catch the sight gag. If it's a recipe I'm unfamiliar with, I have to focus 100%, no time for distractions.

    Driving is another interesting case. When I was first learning, I couldn't have the radio on or even talk with a passenger. It was a new skill and consumed 100% of my attention to a ridiculous degree. As I became more comfortable with driving, I could take a more relaxed approach. I can hold a conversation with a passenger. I'm still doing my sweeps, checking mirrors, instrument panel, paying attention to the feel of the road, listening for anything odd, but it takes less effort to do all these things. But when conditions become more interesting, it takes more effort to retain situational awareness. I'll lose track of the conversation. This is the opposite of the way most people do it, the conversation distracting from the driving.

    As a mostly monotasker, I'm very skeptical of multitaskers, bordering on contemptuous. It really irks me when I'm trying to work with someone who insists on multitasking to the point where you keep having to repeat yourself because he wasn't fucking listening in the first place. "No, I heard what you said. Just repeat it so I can understand." It's a sick, pathetic, constant pattern. I tell someone x is followed by y and z. They hear x and immediately ask about c. Well, c could be related in some instances but I already told you in this instance it's x, then y, then z. But wait, why is y there? That's the sequence. And then after several more rounds the person will exclaim with a sudden revelation "Why, this is x, then y, then z!" Of course, you numpty pillock. I've only been trying to tell you that for the last ten minutes. I'm going to rip that fucking bluetooth out of your ear, yank the battery from your iphone (they are removable if you use enough force) and make you focus for a goddamn minute!

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    1. Re:I hate multitasking by Lord+Grey · · Score: 3, Funny

      ... numpty pillock.

      [citation needed]

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    2. Re:I hate multitasking by green1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you have a good point here, the most important part of multitasking isn't how many tasks you do at once, but how well you prioritize, as different tasks start to use up more of your internal resources you have to know which tasks to drop and which to keep. This is a common problem, people who keep the cell phone conversation instead of the focus on driving for example.

      I used to work tech support, the majority of calls were dead simple and required very little thought on my part, it was quite common for me to be on 2 different IRC channels, ICQ, monitoring a ham radio, chatting with co-workers (the mute button is wonderful) all while talking to the customer on the phone. The trick was, when one of those rare calls came in that actually required real thought and problem solving I had to immediately stop monitoring any of the other communications and focus solely on the call.

      Another example is while driving on a good day I'll have the radio going, I'll be monitoring a couple of ham radios, and possibly talking with a passenger, but if driving through a blizzard on slick roads in a whiteout all the radios are off, and any passenger better shut up.

    3. Re:I hate multitasking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "sorry honey, could you repeat that because some jerkoff up there thinks he can talk on the phone and stay in his lane at the same time"

      i love living to say those words, over, and over, and over again.

      i miss that late, belated dinosaur, the Anonymous Cowardon

    4. Re:I hate multitasking by Ironica · · Score: 1

      I tell someone x is followed by y and z. They hear x and immediately ask about c. Well, c could be related in some instances but I already told you in this instance it's x, then y, then z. But wait, why is y there? That's the sequence. And then after several more rounds the person will exclaim with a sudden revelation "Why, this is x, then y, then z!" Of course, you numpty pillock.

      You've been eavesdropping on my conversations with my husband, haven't you?

      Thing is, he's NOT much of a multi-tasker. We have those conversations when all he's doing is talking to me (and I'M doing the cooking). But I tell him something, and immediately a question pops into his head, and apparently, he's INCAPABLE of letting me finish what I'm saying and finding out whether or not his question is relevant, much less addressed by the rest of the sentence.

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    5. Re:I hate multitasking by riondluz · · Score: 1

      good point. you bring up the importance of the difference between taskers, single or multi, and people who just don't know how to listen.

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  13. Has anyone corrected for sex? by davecb · · Score: 1

    No, not that kind of multitasking! I mean have they corrected for the difference between men and women?

    In our society, and in the hunter-gatherer societies that far preceded it, men's jobs demanded concentration and women's demanded social interaction. This may introduce a sex-linked bias into the experiment.

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    1. Re:Has anyone corrected for sex? by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Men's jobs demanded social interaction as well, and still do. You can't take down a wooly mammoth with only yourself and a spear. The men hunted, the women gathered. That's why married men are always so exasperated by their wives' "Well LOOK for it!" Male brains just aren't wired that way.

    2. Re:Has anyone corrected for sex? by InsertWittyNameHere · · Score: 1

      sex-linked bias

      It's true while woman are able to hold many thoughts at a time, us men are focused solely on sex.

    3. Re:Has anyone corrected for sex? by agnosticnixie · · Score: 1

      No.
      And for sentence two, point by point - "wrong" "wrong" "wrong" "did not do the research" and "evolution doesn"t work this way"

    4. Re:Has anyone corrected for sex? by dubbreak · · Score: 1

      No, not that kind of multitasking!

      Really? Because the first thing I thought of was the the Trifecta. Pastrami, tv and sex at the same time. Multitasking for pleasure.

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    5. Re:Has anyone corrected for sex? by davecb · · Score: 1

      Sorry! I wasn't assuming this was a genetic issue, I was actually thinking about learned behavior. I had to take "girl lessons" from my wife when I held a quasi-management job, and I noticed she had a rich set of organizing and coping skills...

      --dave

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    6. Re:Has anyone corrected for sex? by agnosticnixie · · Score: 1

      Heh, okay, still, corrected for sex makes little sense though. And I'd suspect the organizing and coping skills tend to be just as poor (I know mine are always hanging on a loose thread :p )

    7. Re:Has anyone corrected for sex? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I think that men are able to think of several sexes at the same time.

    8. Re:Has anyone corrected for sex? by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      IIRC Women are more likely to describe themselves as good multitaskers.

      If the test 'questions' were biased towards male strengths (perhaps they tested driving, map reading and throwing change into a toll basket all at once) this would cause spurious negative correlation.

      They should test the participants at each task, then test multitasking, then correct for initial skill. The correction step would allow the researcher to get any good damn answer they please. SOP in the social sciences.

      Perhaps someone who RTFA could comment.

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  14. Texting while driving by davecb · · Score: 1

    I keep seeing insurance-company ads about texting when driving, and wonder if anyone actually sends text messages at the wheel, as opposed to reading them or texting while a passenger?

    My father was an insurance detective, and often commented that the companies were constantly warning about quite imaginary perils...

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    1. Re:Texting while driving by Kagura · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have sent texts at the wheel. It's annoying because you can only type a couple letters before you have to look up again. Reading a text you've received is equally annoying.

      Texting while driving is STUPIDLY UNSAFE and I only do it when I feel the situation has appropriate trade-offs (no cars close or medium-close in front of me, no turns in the road, importance of sending the text, etc.)

    2. Re:Texting while driving by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      and wonder if anyone actually sends text messages at the wheel,

      Yes. I have personally seen a few people trying to text while driving. Not sitting at a light, while the car is in motion.

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    3. Re:Texting while driving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *puts hand up* - guilty as charged.

      I had issues with the predictive text/lack of QWERTY keyboard on a blackberry 8100 pearl that I was testing for work - I got funny looks when I said at the team meeting that it was difficult to send messages while driving.

      I know you were talking about text messages, and I am talking about e-mail - I see it pretty much the same when you're talking about doing so while driving, if anything this is harder cause I was sending (admittedly short) work e-mails so I had to use proper spelling/grammar.

      Yes, bleeding hearts, I did this very infrequently and it was usually only one or two line max urgent work-related messages that I sent when stuck on a highway where I couldn't easily pull over. My wife yelled at me enough that I promised I'd use the phone instead.

      I have a 8310 now with a full QWERTY keyboard so I can kinda type without looking at the device, and I have a few pre-canned responses added in as autotext which helps.

    4. Re:Texting while driving by c_sd_m · · Score: 1

      I keep seeing insurance-company ads about texting when driving, and wonder if anyone actually sends text messages at the wheel, as opposed to reading them or texting while a passenger?

      Does sending email on a blackberry count? I've seen lots of people doing that at the wheel, including on their 10 minute drive home from work. I've also seen shaving, talking on a cellphone using both hands for gestures (probably steering with his knees), and a cyclist coming across a cross-street while either texting or dialing a cellphone (hard to be sure which). I'm sure insurance companies make up imaginary or rare perils but, at least where I live, texting while driving is definitely a real concern.

    5. Re:Texting while driving by silent_artichoke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have a better idea for you. Put the damn shit down. I don't care what kind of "emergency" you are having at work. Your business can wait the 30 minutes for you to get home. If not, you need to rethink your business processes. I don't care who you are or what company you work for, your stupid fucking text message is NOT worth more than anyone's life.

      If you or anyone else who is too self-centered and self-important to stay off the fucking phone for a few minutes while you drive ever plow into anyone, you better not hope it's me. I will haunt your fucking dumb ass for the rest of your life. I will torture you and your family until you are all on the brink of madness. Then your family will watch you commit suicide right in front of their eyes by shoving that fucking phone into your eye socket and pulling it out of your throat.

      I hate you all, you fucking phone drivers. Get off your fucking phones and out of my damn lane. YOU are the reason that it is such hell to drive now. YOU are the reason there are so many wrecks and red light running. YOU are the reason that so many lives are lost and everyone's insurance is so high. Hang the fuck up.

    6. Re:Texting while driving by internewt · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mod parent up +1 understated

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    7. Re:Texting while driving by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      texting while driving is definitely a real concern.

      Not to mention dressing while driving. :-)

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    8. Re:Texting while driving by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      I'm sure many people do. I've personally seen people brushing their teeth and shaving on the interstate, even reading a fucking book while driving. I have no doubt that people would text while driving... they have no respect for (or probably even recognition of the dangers of) the speed or energy involved in traveling in a car.

    9. Re:Texting while driving by jrminter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree with you but add the proviso - if one thinks an incoming call or text is urgent and vital, safely pull off the road into a parking lot and return it safely. Here in Rochester we had a 17 year old girl kill herself and several of her friends who were passengers in the car by texting while driving - she crossed into the path of a large tanker truck. Death by imprudence...

    10. Re:Texting while driving by arbiterveritas · · Score: 0

      Jesus christ, you have issues. Really. Get over yourself.

    11. Re:Texting while driving by St.Creed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree - he was much too polite. Texting drivers needs to have their fingers chopped off. Since it will happen anyway, sooner or later, only with more collateral damage, it's not a punishment but simply a matter of prevention.

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    12. Re:Texting while driving by Ironica · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I hate you all, you fucking phone drivers. Get off your fucking phones and out of my damn lane. YOU are the reason that it is such hell to drive now. YOU are the reason there are so many wrecks and red light running. YOU are the reason that so many lives are lost and everyone's insurance is so high. Hang the fuck up.

      Yes, because as you can see, the annual number of accidents per vehicle miles traveled has gone up in direct proportion to saturation of the cell phone market.

      Except... not. No, accident statistics have stayed pretty darned flat with respect to VMT (which continually goes up, year after year). The severity of injuries and incidence of fatalities goes down as new innovations in passenger safety come out and are implemented in the fleet.

      BTW, one thing that has stayed VERY constant, for the last 30+ years: half of road fatalities are caused by a drunk driver. Even though road fatalities have gone down (even as the total population and per capita VMT have risen), 50% are from accidents caused by drunk drivers. You'd think we would have learned better by now, but nooooo.

      So it'd be dead easy to determine, once and for all, what effect cell phone use has on driving: run a multiple-regression analysis on accident rates, taking into account VMT per capita, total population, and other such stats that we know influence accident rates, plus add cell phone market penetration over time. Look at data for the last, say, 20 years. That will show you how much cell phones (remember when they were all "car phones"?) impact accident rates. Until someone does this (law enforcement has all the accident data, and I'm sure the cell companies would cough up the subscriber numbers if it meant the possibility of getting all these laws against using their product repealed), everyone needs to calm the f*** down and realize that there are good drivers, and bad drivers, and mediocre drivers, and if it wasn't the phone, it'd be something else distracting the a**hole in front of you.

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    13. Re:Texting while driving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I've never felt so much like cheering after reading a slashdot comment...

    14. Re:Texting while driving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if its that important, signal, pull over, type, send, signal, and then get back to driving.

    15. Re:Texting while driving by mad+flyer · · Score: 1

      Isn't that the kind of thinking/stats that kept the flawed Ford Pinto or the road despite being a time ticking bomb ?

      It's not aboot the percentage of person killed versus teh number of white Jaguar on the road every tuesday. It's aboot doing something totally unecessary while operating a vehicle. By your thinking, since i've never been in an accident I should not have to wear a seatbelt. Or since my car never burned I should not worry aboot carrying a fire extinguisher...

    16. Re:Texting while driving by aynoknman · · Score: 1

      I have sent texts at the wheel.

      Which city are you in? ... I want to avoid it.

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    17. Re:Texting while driving by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      The Pinto was kept on the road because it would be more expensive to recall it than it would be to just pay out the damages for the few accidents where it would actually explode. In other words, it wasn't a ticking time bomb. It had a slight flaw that made it not quite as safe as it could have been. I hear airliners sometimes crash. Perhaps we should stop manufacturing them because we can't see to make one that never crashes.

      Your argument basically boils down to "damn reality, I feel in my gut that it's unsafe!" Yes, that is usually how we operate. No, it's not smart. Your argument applies equally to radios in cars. They are totally unnecessary, yet they are a distraction. We should ban them immediately. Same goes for talking to a passenger, or passengers talking to each other.

      If it's true that talking on a cell phone doesn't affect accident rates then there's no reason to ban it. However, doing the analysis Ironica suggested might show up some interesting facts about what really DOES cause accidents. If she's accurate then drunk driving is responsible for half (which isn't surprising) but what about the other half? What actions WOULD have some effect? Mandatory proper training, as in Germany if you want to drive on the autobahn? Driver time clocks like they have in Europe on commercial vehicles? A zero blood alcohol level law? Banning radios?

    18. Re:Texting while driving by silent_artichoke · · Score: 1

      Yes, I have issues with all the morons who cut me off and run red lights because they are staring at their phones instead of driving. Maybe it is just a local thing, but red light running and roaming into adjacent lanes is becoming very common and leads to road rage in myself and everyone around me.

    19. Re:Texting while driving by Ironica · · Score: 1

      Isn't that the kind of thinking/stats that kept the flawed Ford Pinto or the road despite being a time ticking bomb ?

      No, not at all.

      The Pinto *did* have a flaw that made it significantly more dangerous if it was in a typical rear-end collision. The reasoning was economical: Ford saved money by paying out enormous settlements when the flaw happened to cause greater injury or death than would normally be expected in an accident, rather than recalling and repairing ALL flawed Pintos.

      The analogy, in this case, would be if the risk was already proven (which it's not; there has NEVER been a comprehensive analysis of how actual driver behavior or accident rates is affected by cell phone use), and I was suggesting that the COST of the accidents was lower than the COST of passing and enforcing legislation.

      I am not suggesting anything of the kind. If we do the analysis, and find that, yes, cell phone use HAS increased the danger on the road, we absolutely *should* ban use of phones while driving (and should also look at other factors involved, as ceoyoyo mentions below). But until we've actually examined what *really* happens, rather than using inappropriate proxies in controlled conditions, we should stop assuming we know how everything works.

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  15. Humans Can't Multitask by Xenolith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Multitasking in humans is a myth. You might be able to rapidly switch between tasks, but processing more than one thing simultaneously can't be done.

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    1. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't say they can't multitask. That's they can't multitask two things that demand careful attention. We already do alot of things that are multitasking such as walking and talking on a celllphone. Likewise you can multitask by say playing a game and watching TV as long as you don't care much about the TV show.

    2. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by srobert · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Damn! You're right. I was reading Slashdot and I forgot to breathe again.

    3. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Code+Master · · Score: 1

      I have a multicore brain! It's contention for memory access that's the issue.

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    4. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by A.+B3ttik · · Score: 1

      [Citation Needed]

    5. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 0

      Actually, you are constantly multi-tasking. You bet you had your full force of your brain on writing that comment, but you forget that you are also breathing, your heart is pumping, etc etc.

      If you're trying to tell me that you've never held a conversation while walking/typing/playing a video game, that you absolutely had to drop what you are doing, then I'm going to nail you as the worst Multi-tasker in the face of human history. And just because you can't doesn't mean we can't.

    6. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that why I keep spilling my coffee while trying to read \.? Maybe I should stop eating lunch while watching the Daily Show, too, as I clearly can't chew and watch TV at the same time.

      While an interesting study I agree with other posters that it doesn't test all areas of multi-tasking, but rather short term memory and the ability to switch between tasks. I'd also wager that the multi-taskers in the study were getting bored of the tests and were thinking about other things during most of it.

    7. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 1

      I guess it depends on your definition of "processing." Personally, I always found it impossible to play the piano and talk at the same time. I just can't do it...it's like there's an interlock between my speech center and the part that's keeping track of whatever I'm playing.

      However, I've known people that could do this with no problem. They could play, sing, pay attention to the performance of the rest of the band, and give direction to the band and sound guy as needed, seamlessly. Granted, they'd been doing this for a long time, but they had trained themselves to manage multiple complex tasks simultaneously.

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    8. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes it is, and here's an entire book written on the subject that does a great articulating why:

      http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Multitasking-Doing-Gets-Nothing/dp/0470372257/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251211363&sr=8-1

    9. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Xenolith · · Score: 1

      I guess I need to elaborate. You can't handle multiple "action planning" tasks simultaneously. Breathing, heart pumping, etc. are background apps, handled by your "lizard" brain.

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    10. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      Multitasking in humans is a myth. You might be able to rapidly switch between tasks, but processing more than one thing simultaneously can't be done.

      And for all of us who are capable of walking whilst chewing gum, does that make us aliens?
      My dad had a stupid party trick. He could count out loud while multiplying three digit numbers in his head, and usually had the answer before he got to 50. Even my *dog* can run without hitting into things, while visually tracking a ball I've thrown and calculating when to jump to catch it. We multitask all the time when we need to.

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    11. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by rfolkker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Targeted test, towards a targeted response. My wife and I get in this discussion all the time. I prefer to watch TV, play with my cats, and work/play on my computer at the same time. I typically work best like this. The key is, as people have mentioned, multitasking is very much like a computer. Each device/sense/ability are only capable of one process at a time, however, typing, breathing, sitting upright, listening to music, do not conflict with each other. If I were to add in anything that took away from one of the others, I would be unable to maintain.

      The above test measured the wrong information. It was looking for cognitive multitasking. I seriously doubt it is possible for a human to cognitively multitask. We can hear and parse multiple conversations (I would have no idea of how many the average person can handle, but I peak out at about 3, and I am not very good at it), but we can only maintain one conscience stream of data at a time. This means, you have a conversation with someone, you may be able to keep track of what someone else is saying, but you are not likely, and definitely not proficiently going to be able to carry out a conversation with another. You may be able to hear what they say (one of the ways we can switch conversations and topics in conversation, the above mentioned ability to parse multiple conversations). But each time you switch between conversation, you have to break your stream of thought, interject the new conversation, and carry on with it. Then you switch back, but it's not multitasking, it's more in line with serial processing.

      So, can people multitask, you have to, in order to function. But, to what level, and how do you do it is a different question (or 2).

      Personally, I will listen to music, or watch TV while programing because it helps me focus on programming. It gives me a constant stream of data to keep my other senses busy while I focus my train of thought on what I am writing/designing. However, when the wife stops in, and sees me doing this, and deciding I can handle a conversation everything goes south, and a fight will typically break out.

    12. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      Unless you actually think about it and take over it, breathing is not something you need to think about.

    13. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by rolfwind · · Score: 1

      Breathing is one of those few unconscious activities that the conscious side of your brain can take over. Unlike, say, your heart pumping blood (which IIRC your brain controls the rate) but which you can't control.

      But when I say:

      BREATH!

      You can't focus on much else for that split second.

    14. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      Actually, you are constantly multi-tasking. You bet you had your full force of your brain on writing that comment, but you forget that you are also breathing, your heart is pumping, etc etc.

      Good point. I'm gonna put that on my resume: "Excellent Multitasker, can type while simultaneously breathing and pumping blood through my body." I'll put it right below "Sat on aircraft exit row. Responsible for understanding instructions in English and assisting crew in the event of evacuation. Can lift 22 lbs/10 kg without injury."

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    15. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by fbjon · · Score: 1

      At what level? I'll have you know I can process inputs from several senses at once, because they're on parallel paths. Isn't that a form of multitasking?

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    16. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by russotto · · Score: 1

      Multitasking in humans is a myth. You might be able to rapidly switch between tasks, but processing more than one thing simultaneously can't be done.

      Glad to hear you've got the human brain all figured out, because no one else does. I think you might have some errors there, though, because there are any number of tasks humans can definitely do at the same time

      1) I can see and hear at the same time. Both these tasks are very processing-intensive, and go on during most of my waking hours, along with other tasks I may be accomplishing.

      2) I can walk and chew gum at the same time. Pretty much anyone can, except Gerald Ford.

      3) I can't do this, but some humans can use their sight to calculate the trajectory of a falling object, correcting for perturbations, all the while running towards an intercept position, and avoiding collisions with other persons doing the same, sometimes verbally warning them off.

      etc.

    17. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by CannonballHead · · Score: 1

      That's a matter of interpretation.

      Example: pat your head and rub your stomach. I see that as two different actions going on at the same time, requiring simultaneous muscle movement. You, on the other hand, could see it as one complex action, thus it's not "multi-tasking" but a "single task."

      Things are getting fuzzy...

    18. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by hideouspenguinboy · · Score: 1

      You are trying to insert absolutes where they don't belong. It's not a matter of yes or no, it's a matter of degree. I can sing and play drums (2 feet and 2 hands doing different stuff) at the same time, while taking and giving queues from/to other musicians. I can read and listen to music and enjoy both, while having a conversation, though probably not a complex one. It's likely I'll also be tapping my feet along to the music.

    19. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by martas · · Score: 1

      I disagree. I lost count a long time ago of the number of times that I coughed and crapped at the same time. It really is possible - just ask Vonnegut.

    20. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right. There's no "hardware" support in humans for true multi-tasking because the brain is so massively parallel. Wait... what?

    21. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? You cannot walk, chew gum, admire modern art on the gallery walls, while drinking a snifter of brandy, and talking to your beautiful art student girlfr... oh, yeah right, Slashdot. My Bad..

    22. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Xenolith · · Score: 1

      I elaborated in another post... seems to be hidden from most people's view. Human's can't "action plan" multiple things. You have moved the above activities into the background through practice...

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    23. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by geekoid · · Score: 1

      so we can't walk and chew gum? about about juggle?

      Of course we multi-task.

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    24. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Yes and no. It depends on how independent the different parts of the brain are.

      You can think about a project, planning in your head, while indoor cycling, etc.
      And you could see the neurons of the digestive system as a completely parallel part of your brain (it has an many neurons as the brain after all).
      I bet if you'd do it right, you could do something creative and something logical in parallel too.

      But of course you can't do two calculations at once. And you eyes also can only focus on one point.
      Your hands can partially do two things at the same time. (Like in this game: http://www.kongregate.com/games/IcyLime/multitask ) But you'll notice the problems.

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    25. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Speak for yourself, I spent years learning how make that nice long beeeep on the heart monitor just so I could freak the hell out of medics.

    26. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by locofungus · · Score: 1

      I can play and talk. I can't sightread and talk (I can't sightread particularly well anyway but I've been working on it over the last year and maybe I'll get there one day)

      (I can (and do) practice Hanon for hours while reading a book although typically one hand at a time as that makes holding the book and turning pages easier - I've now got a Sony PRS-505 and I wish there was a remote page turn switch so I could turn the pages with my foot.)

      I can copy type (poorly) and talk at the same time. Good secretaries can do this effortlessly (and usually do it all the time IME)

      Simultaneous translators can (obviously) listen in one language and repeat it in another. OTOH I know people who are completely fluent in four or more languages who struggle to translate at all - they say "If you're talking French then you think in French, if you're talking English then you think in English". (I also know someone who's wife was able to act as a translator in a technical discussion between a Russian and an English speaker without being able to understand what the discussion was about - not simultaneous translation in this case so not multitasking)

      I cannot read and listen to speech at the same time at all. I've previously read that this is a very rare skill in men but not that uncommon in women (Unfortunately I cannot find anything relevant when googling so I might be misremembering something else). I can't really even read and listen to music at the same time. I'll either start to switch out the music or I'll stop reading so I can listen properly.

      Tim.

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    27. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      Well Not alot of people are even capable of two cases of what you call "Action Planning" - but it can be done. Alot of people were able to have concurrent lines of thought running at once, like how Napoleon would dictate letters to three people at once writing different letters to different people.

      But even something you would consider "A Task" is still capable to be multi-tasked, and you hit it right on the button, its handled by the lizard brain.

      Thats exactly how people become GOOD at multi-tasking something though, is making the task becoming part of a "zombie" routine you do. You set it up so that you do something without thinking about it.

      In my job, if checking the backup logs is so routine, then I can focus my mind on solving the network permissions issue that someone has WHILE checking the logs.

      It's essentially doing 2 tasks at the same time, just one requires no real NEW thoughts to permeate.

    28. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 1

      What? You cannot walk, chew gum, admire modern art on the gallery walls, while drinking a snifter of brandy, and talking to your beautiful art student girlfr... oh, yeah right, Slashdot. My Bad..

      Personally, I prefer to not be chewing or drinking/swallowing while talking to anybody.

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    29. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're bodily functions are run by you unconscious. your conscious mind can only do one thing at a time (especially if you are a guy). people who multitask 'context switch' quicker and give you the illusion of multitasking. you can argue then how people sing, dance and play guitar at the same time, all of them are done by conscious, right? no, most of those activities are ritualized i.e. done through 'muscle memory'

    30. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by russotto · · Score: 1

      You can't handle multiple "action planning" tasks simultaneously.

      Which just amounts to a "no true scotsman" fallacy. Any counterexample you'll claim simply isn't "action planning".

    31. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by GravityStar · · Score: 1

      The degree to which a person can multitask and what kinds of multitasking he/she can do; is highly personal and differs a lot by gender.

      For instance: women, in general, can process and respond to multiple, simultaneous and overlapping conversations.

      While guys are amazed they can do this, they are amazed that guys can't.

    32. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by tool462 · · Score: 1

      Breathing generally happens on its own. If you do focus on your breathing, it will be to the detriment of other activities you are trying to do. Controlled breathing is a staple of meditation and relaxation techniques for a reason. It stops your brain from thinking about all those other distractions.

    33. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your ID# were higher, you would have been modded "funny" not "insightful" for suggested that breathing is something that can be called a task under any definition of the word. It makes as much sense to call breathing a task as digesting or dilating your pupils.

    34. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn! You're right. I was reading Slashdot and I forgot to breathe again.

      Breathing is not a conscience action.. unless you decide you need it to be.

      You can control it, but it requires no concentration.

      Read a book while trying to plan a vacation.

      Insightful? are you people insane?

    35. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by spruce · · Score: 1

      Personally, I take a breath, read three posts, and then take another breath.

      Sometimes my coworkers wonder why my face is turning blue and I have to explain that LinuxDude69 is extremely verbose.

    36. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If breathing requires cognative input for you, you should see a doctor. You may have some damage.

    37. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Ironica · · Score: 1

      I cannot read and listen to speech at the same time at all. I've previously read that this is a very rare skill in men but not that uncommon in women (Unfortunately I cannot find anything relevant when googling so I might be misremembering something else).

      I can't listen in realtime while reading... but frequently, if someone says something to me while I'm reading, if I STOP reading, I can then play back what they said from the buffer and respond. But I literally don't understand the content of what they said until after I stop reading and take about half as long as it took them to say it to remember hearing it and interpret it into meaning.

      And, FWIW, I'm female. Maybe women have bigger buffers? (Oh, git yer mind out o' the gutter!)

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    38. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Ironica · · Score: 1

      Multitasking in humans is a myth. You might be able to rapidly switch between tasks, but processing more than one thing simultaneously can't be done.

      Glad to hear you've got the human brain all figured out, because no one else does. I think you might have some errors there, though, because there are any number of tasks humans can definitely do at the same time

      1) I can see and hear at the same time. Both these tasks are very processing-intensive, and go on during most of my waking hours, along with other tasks I may be accomplishing.

      But I do find that blocking out sensory input from other channels can help me focus harder on a particular channel. Most commonly, I find this when I'm doing something by touch, such as finding an object in my purse, or fastening something behind me. I can do it a lot easier if I close my eyes.

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    39. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      You can't handle multiple "action planning" tasks simultaneously.

      I know thousands of musicians who will disagree with you. Ever play a guitar/banjo and sing? Switch to a new key for both? March in convoluted patterns and play a song while keeping your focus on a drum major? Play a spontaneous drum set solo (hint: that's four limbs you're action planning, three if you're Rick Allen)? Tune two timpani at the same time by ear because there's not enough time to do both in succession before you have to play again? Pickle a hog's head while knitting a sweater? Just seeing if you read all the way to the end...

    40. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by lab16 · · Score: 1

      So what you are saying is that if I hold my breath, it will make reading slashdot easier?

    41. Re:Humans Can't Multitask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oddly enough, I tend to hold my breath when I'm really concentrating on something.

      My wife also does this.

  16. Grouping method? by Asgerix · · Score: 1
    I wonder how the researchers determined if a person is a multitasker?

    The article says:

    In each of their tests, the researchers split their subjects into two groups: those who regularly do a lot of media multitasking and those who don't.

    Do they simply ask "Do you do a lot of media multitasking?" ?

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  17. DOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DOS! DOS! DOS!

      - PC gamers chant at Microsoft presentations circa 1995

  18. A study for this? by Ozric · · Score: 1

    Wow what a shocker... People who meditate do so to focus on ONE point and keep that focus for as long as possible.
    Everyone knows that a core problem with people is a lack of focus.... OH Look a Quarter!!! Anyway, where was I?
    Oh yes, the lack of attention and focus, And just how much did this study cost us?

  19. Multitasking by confused+one · · Score: 1

    You don't know what you're talking about. I multi...

    uh, What were you saying?

    1. Re:Multitasking by MiniMike · · Score: 3, Funny

      And then there's those who can't even mono-task...

  20. Re:People in general by thisnamestoolong · · Score: 1

    Very well said. I would consider myself the exception to the rule in that I am aware of how bad I am at multi-tasking, yet still insist on doing it anyway. That whole ADD thing is a bitch...

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  21. Re:People in general by ari_j · · Score: 1

    I never said anything about the wisdom and restraint to avoid multitasking. That's a whole other level above self-awareness, and definitely above where I am at.

  22. Applies to republicans, birthers/deathers,.etc. by tomhudson · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger

    The Dunning-Kruger effect is an example of cognitive bias in which "...people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it".[1] They therefore suffer an illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average. This leads to a perverse result where people with less competence will rate their ability more highly than people with relatively more competence. It also explains why competence may weaken the projection of confidence because competent individuals falsely assume others are of equivalent understanding. "Thus, the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others.

    For further info, just google "Sarah Palin" or "birthers".

    1. Re:Applies to republicans, birthers/deathers,.etc. by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      For further info, just google "Sarah Palin" or "birthers".

      So that would explain why people like Sarah Palin think that people are capable of taking care of themselves, while people like Barack Obama think people need the government to take care of them. Obviously this is because Sarah Palin is less competent and therefore thinks she is more competent than others, while Barack Obama is more competent and therefore thinks other people are equally competent.

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    2. Re:Applies to republicans, birthers/deathers,.etc. by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Obviously people like Sarah Palin, because they can't multi-task and believe they can, also can't consider facts in their global context - everything is simple, because THEY are simple. Everything boils down to "aw shucks, that's easy. Just do (a, b, or c) - problem solved!" which is what got us into this mess in the first place - not being able to consider more than one thing at a time. It's also why Nixon liked the HMO idea in the first place - it solved HIS problem of what to do about health care and how best to take care of his buddy running Kaiser Permanente. It didn't solve the problem that the US already has crappy life expectancy, and it's now going to get worse if something isn't done.

      Look at how the republicans are trying to frame the health-care issue in terms of "socialism." OMG SOCIALISM! THAT'S TEH D3V1L!!! This only works because their supporters can't think about more than a few things at a time - and one of those things is how the military, the police, firefighters, fcc, faa, cdc, noaa, public transit, social security, etc. are ALL "socialized" services. And now so are the banks, and GM, and Chrysler.

      The republican party doesn't represent political conservatives any more - it's become a religion in its' own right (pardon the pun :-).

    3. Re:Applies to republicans, birthers/deathers,.etc. by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, I was replying to your comment about the Dunning-Kruger effect. I don't quite see how your reply applies.
      The Dunning-Kruger effect says that incompetent people think they are more competent than people who are in fact more competent than themselves, while competent people think that everyone else is competent. So, that would lead one to expect incompetent people to think that they should be allowed to run other people's lives (such as their health-care choices), while competent people think that other people would be just as competent to look after themselves (such as making their own health-care choices).

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    4. Re:Applies to republicans, birthers/deathers,.etc. by Bob-taro · · Score: 1

      For further info, just google "Sarah Palin" or "birthers".

      Or a better example: You think you're funny, but you're not.

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    5. Re:Applies to republicans, birthers/deathers,.etc. by Reziac · · Score: 1

      I've observed this myself, when evaluating political candidates... as a general rule, the more one thinks he can run my life better than I can, the worse hash he'll make of it.

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    6. Re:Applies to republicans, birthers/deathers,.etc. by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      For further info, just google "Sarah Palin" or "birthers".

      Or a better example: You think you're funny, but you're not.

      Wasn't trying to be funny. I'm dead serious - and this (the difference in the actual thought process between neo-cons and the rest of the world) has been covered on slashdot, and in the general media, before. That you can't see it for what it is - the truth - makes your post ironic.

      Despite their "christian family values", neocons have higher rates of children born out of a relationship - looks like they couldn't multi-task enough to read the instructions on the condom (or they ate the banana during class). They have higher divorce rates - maybe they couldn't focus as well on all the variables when making that decision. They can see from experience that abstinence doesn't work, but they can't recognize it. Birthers are the real joke - they now want to see Obama's penis! What is it with republicans and their fixation on the penises of democrat presidents anyway?

    7. Re:Applies to republicans, birthers/deathers,.etc. by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      I was using Palin (and the birthers, deathers, etc) as obvious examples of people who the Dunning-Kruger effect is in full force. It's the explanation for their continued self-reinforcing ignorance. As to Obama, having a public health system doesn't mean a government program gets to approve your treatment - that's one of the lies that's being pushed right now.

      Up here in Canada, when I go to a hospital, clinic, or doctor, there is not only no need to get government approval for treatment - it's against the law for a government bureaucrat to stick their nose in my file. Doctor-patient confidence is the law. A universal single-payer public system doesn't change that, just like it doesn't change that I get to pick my own doctors.

      Contrast this to the US, where the latest figures show that 98% of all HMO policies mandate which hospital and doctor group you see, what treatments you'e eligible for, and whether they'll jack up your rates to get rid of you next year if your risk profile changes.

      It's not a question of looking after yourself, but of having actual choices, including the choice of being able to opt into a single-payer public plan.

      Funny how all the politicians (and their followers) who are barking against the public plan hold the contradictory position that [Medicare?Medicaid/whatever it's called in your state] should be continued for seniors. It's government-controlled. It's publicly subsidized. It's socialist. But no, they can't see the contradiction, because they can't look at more than one thing at a time - they can't multi-task.

    8. Re:Applies to republicans, birthers/deathers,.etc. by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      I am sorry, all the politicians I know who are opposing Democare (not Obamacare because Obama doesn't have a plan he is just backing whichever plan the Democrats in Congress decide to go with), also, have campaigned to fix Medicare/Medicaid (they are actually two separate, but equally bad federal programs).
      You talk about the national health insurance plan as if it is some clearly laid out plan. Why do you think they tried to rush it through Congress before anyone could have time to read it?

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    9. Re:Applies to republicans, birthers/deathers,.etc. by Ironica · · Score: 1

      You talk about the national health insurance plan as if it is some clearly laid out plan. Why do you think they tried to rush it through Congress before anyone could have time to read it?

      You mean like the PATRIOT Act?

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    10. Re:Applies to republicans, birthers/deathers,.etc. by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of being against a national health-care plan as "socialist" when the US already HAS a national health-care plan - Medicare. The people who claim that a national health-careplan would "take away choice" are so full of shit it's not funny (it would give them an additional choice). That their heads don't explode due to the contraditions shows that they can not focus on more than one aspect of the question at a time, never mind multitask, AND/OR that they have ulterior motives, such as racism ("blacks and latinos would benefit more, so why should I pay") and greed ("private for-profit plans can't compete, so my shares in Kaiser Permanente will go down - better convince people that universal health-care is BAD for their health, since it's bad for my financial health").

      Stupidity, racism, and greed - but mostly the latter, which exploits the first two. You already have bureaucrat-managed care via the HMOs, who are answerable only to Wall Street. Do you really trust them to do what's right if it's going to affect the bottom line - and they already have a proven history of denying valid claims and killing people? google "cigna whistleblower wendell potter" and read congressional testimony on how the insurance companies are scamming you right now.

      Here, I'll save you the trouble http://www.google.ca/search?q=cigna+whistleblower+wendell+potter

      Or you can start with this interview http://www.guernicamag.com/spotlight/1207/the_last_temptation_of_wendell/

      Here's the first few paragraphs - there's a lot more at the linky:

      Last Temptation
      An interview with Wendell Potter

      The former mouthpiece for insurance giant Cigna divulges his role in misleading the public, the emotional day that led to his whistle-blowing, and what should really scare you.

      n June 2007, Wendell Potter was head of corporate communications at Cigna, one of the largest health insurance companies in America, when he attended the U.S. premiere of Michael Moore's Sicko. Potter was part of the team charged with discrediting Moore's film, which advance word said was highly critical of the health insurance industry. Potter "sat quietly in the back and took notes," but soon realized he had a problem. "When I saw the movie, I'll be honest: I thought it was a real good documentary. I knew from my own studies of other healthcare systems that it was an accurate portrayal of those systems and how they are able to provide universal coverage." Yet he was being paid by Cigna to tell people the opposite, that the film was full of lies.

      Just a few weeks later, Potter, who is from Tennessee, read in a local paper about a free healthcare expedition being held in Wise County, Virginia. He decided to check it out. Walking through the fairground gates, Potter saw hundreds of people waiting in the rain while physicians attended to patients in animal stalls or on gurneys lying on the rain-soaked pavement. Tents had been pitched across the fairground lawns, creating a scene "like something that could've been happening on a battlefield or in a war-torn country." Tears mixed with the rain to cloud Potter's vision. "What I thought was: 'Is this the United States?' It was so remote from my reality. It just seemed impossible."

      In months and years prior, Potter had grown increasingly skeptical about his job as chief spokesman for Cigna. Though he insists he never intentionally lied to a reporter, he began to spout what he thought were either misleading or less than honest statements. Moreover, his job required him to hype new programs he felt were not in the best interest of patients or the U.S. healthcare system--particularly when it came to high-deductible, or "consumer driven" plans. He came to feel he was on the wrong side of the healthcare debate and would catch himself gazing into a mirror, wondering, "Who is this?

    11. Re:Applies to republicans, birthers/deathers,.etc. by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      You talk about the national health insurance plan as if it is some clearly laid out plan. Why do you think they tried to rush it through Congress before anyone could have time to read it?

      You mean like the PATRIOT Act?

      ... or anything else, for that matter. I've talked with federal politicians, and they admit to not having read stuff they were voting on - like NAFTA ... if they were school kids, they would be given an "F" for their gross incompetence - but then they'd try to persuade voters that "F" means "Fine", and not "Fail". Asking them to do their jobs is too much work! "We don't have time to read all that stuff" was what one told me.

  23. In Soviet Amerika: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Multitaskers do you.

    Yours In Hollywood,
    K. Trout

  24. According to my wife by KCWaldo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It is impossible for me to multitask. For instance I cannot watch TV and listen to her tell me to take out the trash at the same time. I think that it is possible to multitask though using different senses. For instance type while reading or listening.

  25. Originally had first post by suso · · Score: 2, Funny

    I originally had the first post to this article, but I got distracted and forgot to hit the submit button.

  26. Bah... by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not sure I want to make a T-shirt out of THAT expression.

    1. Re:Bah... by SparkleMotion88 · · Score: 1

      "Multitaskers do it simultaneously"

  27. I have always suspected this by wcrowe · · Score: 1, Troll

    I have long suspected this. I think people who believe they are good at multitasking give themselves the illusion that they are doing a good job simply because they are so busy. It has been my observation that many women, in particular, pride themselves on their multitasking ability, and are confident that they are excellent at each and every task, when in fact they are just doing a mediocre job.

    Pity the poor man who should ever suggest this, however.

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    Proverbs 21:19
    1. Re:I have always suspected this by RKThoadan · · Score: 1

      From reading the comments here I'm wondering if it's just that they simply lack the awareness of how better they would be doing if they were not multi-tasking. There have been a lot of comments about people who feel physically bad when they try to multi-task. Perhaps the self-reported "good multitaskers" simply lack that sensation and the "bad multitaskers" work hard to get back to single-tasking due to the discomfort.

      Those tests did seem pretty bad though. I guess they did adequately test the hypotheses, but they assumed that there was something to the self-reported "good multitaskers". They should have tried to objectively figure out who is a genuinely good multi-tasker before trying to figure out what makes them good. I think they got the cart before the horse there.

    2. Re:I have always suspected this by Ironica · · Score: 1

      ...or perhaps you're too focused on the single-minded task of reinforcing your male superiority to notice when men multitask to the detriment of their performance. ;-)

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  28. Women! by EddyPearson · · Score: 1

    ...Know your limits!

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  29. Tell it to my ex-boss by Wansu · · Score: 1

    He thinks that because he can sit in a meeting and halfway listen to what is being said while reading emails on his blackberry, he is multitasking. And therefore, those who work for him should be able to handle several large, high pressure projects at once.

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  30. Really... by yoshi_mon · · Score: 1

    It's not the shiny buttons it's me trying to multitask!

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    Really, I know what I'm doing...Ohhhh, look at the shiny buttons!
  31. It's a productivity killer! by GarryFre · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's like building a house of cards in an earthquake. It always comes falling down. Would you tell your surgeon that it was ok if he stepped out to work on other patients while he had you laying open on the operating table? This stupid myth that multitasking is a good thing is the one thing that has caused me more headaches and failure to get a job than anything else. They would ask me how good I am at multitasking and i would honestly say it was not something I could handle well. It breeds mistakes like mad and it would piss me off when i would get pulled out of something I was about to finish to start on something else. its a piss poor way to do things and I had the studies to prove it a decade ago. They did a study, where they simply interrupted people every 20 minutes. They found it killed productivity - it came to a near standstill. Nothing got done. Why? They found that people work best in a certain rhythm or routine, but that it took about 20 minutes to get into that rhythm but when you interrupts folks, they never get into that rhythm - think of stopping a train every 20 yards and you get the idea. The only kind of multitasking that is ok, is the kind where you break your project into parts or you have a few different projects that if you get stuck or are unsure how you should proceed and have to let the ideas simmer for a bit, then it is good to work on something else for awhile WHEN you are in a spot where you can stop and come back to it later without having to re-orient yourself all the time. PS: I'm a dedicated programmer looking for a job. Hire me! I need work and not to be looking for it while living under a bridge!

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  32. Yes, it's a load of bollocks basically. by Xest · · Score: 4, Informative

    Basically, a guy wanted to find out what the differences are between those who multi-task a lot and those who don't, or feel they are unable to multi-task well.

    He set up an arbitrary experiment that supposedly tests your ability to multi-task and those who multi-task a lot did not do very well at his experiment, hence his conclusion was that multi-taskers are bad at multi-tasking.

    The problem I see with his experiment, and more importantly, his conclusion, is that he assumes the various tests he did actually are all that are required to judge someone's ability to multi-task - effectively he wasn't testing multi-tasking in his experiments, only performing phsycological tests that he assume are the traits that are required to be an effective multi-tasker.

    An experiment cited in the BBC article is one where there is a screen with 2 red rectangles and a number of blue rectangles which is displayed briefly and then the screen is displayed again and the subject has to say whether or not a red rectangle has been rotated. The link to multi-tasking in this particular experiment is weak, I can only guess the assumption is that to multi-task better you need to be able to track multiple objects on screen in detail but that seems to be merely speculation on behalf of the researcher.

    Doing research on this sort of thing is fair enough, but the fact they seem to have come to the outright conclusion that multi-taskers suck at multi-tasking seems quite a leap from what their research actually shows - that there's simply a statistical link between someone's ability to multi-task and how badly/how well someone can do in those specific experiments which in themselves may or may not tell us anything about someone's ability to multi-task.

    I would've thought a better experiment would, you know, involve multi-tasking? An experiment with say a simplified user interface where there are multilple blocks (Windows) where a basic task has to be performed in each but each has a differing time limit as to how quickly it must be completed. Simple, effective, and a good test of multi-tasking ability.

    But then, that might not have given them the results they wanted that would get them headlines that the world's media would blindly follow.

    1. Re:Yes, it's a load of bollocks basically. by timeOday · · Score: 1
      OK, I just read the paper (subscription may be required), and I largely agree. The study used three tasks. The first one you described, and the second was an N-Back task. I don't think either of these are multi-tasking tasks, rather they are single-tasking in the presence of distractions. Single-tasking requires excluding irrelevant information, whereas multi-tasking requires awareness of more broad information, so is this any surprise? The traits that made heavy multi-taskers bad at these tests might actually be making them good at multi-tasking.

      However, the third test was task switching:

      "participants were presented a number and a letter, and performed either a letter (vowel or consonant) or a number (even or odd) classification task depending on a cue presented before the stimulus. Switch cost was calculated as the difference in mean response time between trials preceded by a trial of the other type (switch trials) vs. trials preceded by a trial of the same type (nonswitch trials). HMMs' [heavy media multitaskers] switch cost was 167 ms greater than that of LMMs [light media multitaskers], t (28)=-2.62, P less than 0.01

      This, to me, is more convincing and harder to dismiss. Still, media multitasking doesn't require task switching. Why didn't they just test media multitasking directly, by having people monitor 6 video screens at a time and giving them a test on what they saw? Or maybe that kind of multi-tasking requires different skills than trying to watch TV and do homework at the same time? If so, "multi-tasking" needs to be subdivided into separate cognitive tasks to make any meaningful measurements.

    2. Re:Yes, it's a load of bollocks basically. by smallshot · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I thought when I read the article. Only the third test is remotely close to multi-tasking, except it is task switching (like a computer multi-tasks) not multitasking as in you can actually understand 2 conversations (or other streams of media) simultaneously.

      My biggest problem with this example of bad research is that they took people who claim to multitask with media, especially language, and tested their ability to focus and solve logic problems. Many people who are strong with language are NOT strong with logic to begin with; It is not a result of multitasking. Also many people who "multitask" do so because they cannot focus well on one thing at a time.

      Sorry I don't have the research to back those statements up, but the fact is, these researchers should have tested (or even developed a test for) actual real-world multitasking before they came to any type of conclusion. Once again, science concludes what the biased scientist wanted to assume. What happened to actual science?

    3. Re:Yes, it's a load of bollocks basically. by Ironica · · Score: 1

      Yes. Essentially, what he showed was that multi-taskers were worse at concentrating on an externally-identified stream than single-taskers were. He didn't actually find out how ANYBODY did at multi-tasking.

      A better way, even without changing the experimental setup, would be to, for example, ask everyone after the first experiment how many blue rectangles there were. The multi-taskers are probably more likely to get that right than the single-taskers, since they aren't blocking the blue rectangles as effectively. With the N-back test, they could have asked all the participants to list all the letters they could remember hearing, and probably the multi-taskers would remember a larger number of them, while the single-taskers would mostly just remember the ones that they flagged during the experiment.

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    4. Re:Yes, it's a load of bollocks basically. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree entirely about the design of the test. Offhand comment that the people tested "could not filter" is the more interesting observation. There is a standard, easy test for auditory multi-tasking: Tester reads a paragraph out loud while subject reads a different paragraph out loud. Subject is tested on content retention. Pretty clear test of whether the subject is processing two inputs at the same time.

      Clearly, the guy involved with Clippy thought everyone could stare, swear, and throw their computer across the room at the same time.

    5. Re:Yes, it's a load of bollocks basically. by releaze · · Score: 1

      Well, its all in definition. If they defined "multitasking" on the basis of people being continuously preoccupied with tv, mobile phones and computers then the definition of multitasking is limited to those actions and that meaning. "What is multitasking" is a question that deserves a research on its own, if not a whole philosophical debate. But it doesn't work that way in these kind of researches. The definitions are often very poor, not very broad-sentenced (that would take alot more time and resources to actually research etc) and don't often live up to the complexity of it's common meaning. I see it all the time, valid scientific statements based on very poor definitions. "People who think they are good at multitasking are actually really bad at it" has some sort of scientific truth, but common sense goes "ORLY?!" It says so very little, because its definition is so small. The impact however can be enormous, that's the worst part. Scientific research can change peoples belief, and with the change of beliefs it can change peoples actions, their attitude. Most of the people do not have the brains nor knowledge or attitude to critically look at any research, so i wouldn't be surprised if some people would actually think that multitasking=bad. Or something like that. Anyhows, On the subject of attention. I did a module of NLP in school and at some point i read that people can only process about 9 blocks (or less, cant remember exactly) of information. Meaning that your attention/focus cannot be on more than 9 things at the time, and the more blocks you process, the worse your attention for the individual blocks becomes. For example, i'm writing, while actively thinking about what i want to say, translating from dutch to english, checking grammar and sentence structure. It's taking me a while to write this post since i'm also paying attention to the cats on my desk for example. If i didn't need to that, words would flow out of my fingers more fluently. And they do ever more so when the cats leave, or once i feel i start getting better at translating, for example. Ofcourse theres also alot of stuff people do unconsciously, they require no conscious attention. Take walking for example or moving in general, breathing, letting your heart beat, having thoughts spawn into existence. (Focussing on thoughts is something different though)

  33. But it looks so good on my résumÃ& by Crash+Culligan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Have you noticed how many employers don't simply want, but insist that new hires be good at multitasking? That the successful employee will be not only able to manage several projects at the same time, but will jump from one to another like a coked-up spider monkey on command?

    Now, I admit fully to being resolutely anti-corporate, so it's only natural for me to look at this suspiciously. But I have to imagine that a whole lot of other people will see this as a disorder not just of the worker but of management, accepting sight unseen that multitasking, getting bits and pieces done on a whole lot of different projects in short order, is somehow more "efficient" (Hello? Changeover time?) than doing one thing to a good stopping point and then moving to another project when you're damn good and ready. It's especially a management problem if the management insists on mandating the changeovers, forcing employees to change gears without the clutch engaged.

    I can easily believe this sort of affliction can be inflicted. So I say let's study the possibility that ADD can be a workplace injury, to be covered by health insurance, and see how long this trend lasts.

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  34. Awww by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    When I read the title I interpreted "Do It" as is Bowchicawowow...

    Then immediately the joke came to mind.... I know when I multitask it just takes longer to get things done, which really women might appreciate...

    But really I guess I just proved the real theory that I am not good at multitasking. Dammit!

  35. Smells like incompetence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember a study was reported a couple of years ago or so saying that incompetent people thing they're great at what they do. They lacked the mental equipment to judge performance. This sounds like the same song, second verse.

    1. Re:Smells like incompetence by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      I remember a study was reported a couple of years ago or so saying that incompetent people thing they're great at what they do. They lacked the mental equipment to judge performance. This sounds like the same song, second verse.

      I believe that you are referring to this 1999 Study of the Dunning-Kruger Effect by . . . Dunning and Kruger.

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      I am not a crackpot.
    2. Re:Smells like incompetence by Garabito · · Score: 1

      I remember a study was reported a couple of years ago or so saying that incompetent people thing they're great at what they do

      Let me guess... You think you're great at grammar, don't you?

  36. My Mother in law by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

    The problem with "multitasking" is that it shouldn't be attempted unless you're already good at something.

    My mother-in-law can knit a sweater, watch a movie and talk to my wife all at the same time, and not miss anything. She is simply amazing at times.

    Other times she tries to multitask and it comes out to be the biggest clusterfuck of all time. Especially anything that has to do with computers.

    The trick is that to truly multitask well, requires mindless tasks that just occupy time.

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    1. Re:My Mother in law by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      I figured this out when trying to learn the art of singing and playing guitar simultaneously, an art that even some great musicians have not mastered -- Mark Knopfler, for example. Ultimately it works like this:

      Drill one part of the performance (whether it's the vocal or the instrument is left to individual discretion) until you can do it on autopilot, THEN try doing both at once. Even then there is a high likelihood of tripping over oneself until one action is fully automatic.

      Incidentally, I find it much more difficult to attempt to play bass and sing than to play guitar and sing. I think this is because it's easier to do "CHORD (strum strum strum) CHORD (strum strum strum)" on autopilot than individual notes and rhythms.

      Mal-2

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  37. Nonsense. by Richy_T · · Score: 1

    I can both read Slashdot and simultaneously listen for my bosses footsteps behind me.

    1. Re:Nonsense. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Now if only you could listen for your boss's (or boss') footsteps behind you and write on Slashdot at the same time.

  38. Single Parent Web Developer by starglider29a · · Score: 1

    Become a single parent web deveoper. You find out that Multitasking is a skill that can be honed.

    Try it. Step #1: Have sex... Oh, sorry, this is Slashdot. Nevermind.

  39. DVR is my main culprit by scorp1us · · Score: 1

    I was very attentive until I got my first DVR back in 2001. The ability to back right up while watching TV creeped in, and has only gotten worse. I now expect that I can backup the radio, and even face-to-face. My mind wanders constantly now. Before it was small thoughts, but last night I had to back up Weeds twice for 2-3 minute segments.

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    1. Re:DVR is my main culprit by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Not likely.

      Either you have something that happens to be coming to light becasue you are looking for it, or you are changing through age or some other disease.

      Talk to your doctor.

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    2. Re:DVR is my main culprit by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 1

      That's nothing. I was watching star wars epiode 2 last night and had to fast foward through almost the whole thing.

    3. Re:DVR is my main culprit by scorp1us · · Score: 1

      Or TV/people are just getting more boring and my idle musings are filling the gap.

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  40. imho by demillsany · · Score: 1

    It's a myth

  41. Correlation != causation by Fastfwd · · Score: 1

    Very close to what I was thinking. Perfectionists choose not to multitask.

  42. Single-tasking by ggeens · · Score: 1

    A couple of months ago, I became aware of the concept of single-tasking. Back then, the presenter claimed the philosophy was so recent that it didn't even have a Wikipedia page. (It still doesn't.)

    The idea behind single-tasking is the same as in this article: multi-tasking gives us the feeling we're doing a lot of work, but actually we lose a lot of time mentally switching between different "contexts". Working on a single task until the end, and then taking on the next one is better.

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    1. Re:Single-tasking by DCheesi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, I think this study suggests that multitaskers try to get around this problem by not formally context-switching, but rather just reacting to everything as it comes in and attracts attention. Ideally this would be like an interrupt-driven system, where rather than trying to monitor and decide when to switch tasks, you simply service interrupts as they come in using a minimal context. The problem is that the people who do this regularly have no way to "disable interrupts"; they're always distracted by other information flows regardless of the importance of the primary task.

    2. Re:Single-tasking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And this is why many bosses will pull people off of important projects for many trivial tasks over the course of time. They don't properly process the impact of these interrupts. Then, when tasks aren't done on time and the bossman is told they were constantly interrupted by him, the boss doesn't even remember because he let the problem-at-hand effect the outcome without letting any of actually register in his thought process.

  43. proper multitasking isn't multitasking at all by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
    It involves doing one thing, until you reach a natural pause, or delay - then picking up the next thing (or one which you were doing before, until you put it down) and continuing with that. Then, when your high-priority task becomes freed from whatever had caused you to stop doing it, you either pick it up again straightaway or make it the next thing you pick up when your current task reaches it's next natural stopping point.

    What multitasking is not is simply fielding one interruption after another - that's either panicking or extremely poor organisation. Either way, the outcome is what these researchers have found: you start lots of things, do them badly and (probably) never get to finish a lot of them.

    So, in practice if you want to "multitask", just do one thing at a time. You'll still have many projects or tasks running at any one time, but you won't find yourself idle when you need a #5 nail and the shops are closed - unless of course you want to be.

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  44. Re:But it looks so good on my résum by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't attribute this to malice.

    Ask someone: Which would you prefer: that you candidate be good at doing only one thing at a time, or that he be good at doing many things at a time? What do you think their answer is likely to be? More is more, isn't it?

    The problem is, the requirement going out doesn't get compared against the capabilities of actual working people.

    How it should go is like this:

    PHB: Find me someone who's good at doing lots of things all at once.
    HR: Can't; Tried, Looked, none exist. People are better at doing one thing at a time.
    PHB: OK, let's set up our processes so that people only do one thing.

    How it actually goes:

    PHB: Find me someone who's good at doing lots of things all at once.
    HR: These candidates who applied all say that they can do this. Interview them and pick the best one we can afford.
    PHB: OK. [Hires one]

    [Weeks, months, or years pass]

    PHB: Find me someone who's good at doing lots of things all at once. The last guy wasn't as good as he said he was, and burned out.. Now there's even more things that need to be done.
    HR: OK. Here's another pool of applicants.

    And the thing is, I am good at doing a lot of different things. This makes me valuable, because I'm flexible and also because I can put my various skills together to better effect than I could if I only knew how to do one thing. That doesn't mean that I should be actively involved in several ongoing projects all at the same time.

    I can't work well if I'm expected to work on several development projects concurrently, while at the same time supporting the production environment, all while thinking about our existing processes and policies and trying to think of better ones, and keep up with the constant changes with the existing ones that come from my supervisor or higher-ups on a day to day basis. And so, I don't work well. But I do manage to meet expectations. It's just that the expectations are managed downward to where we don't really expect all that much.

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  45. You're doing it wrong by w1 · · Score: 0

    The test results pointed to "high multitaskers" being worse at it because the tests weren't designed well to measure multitasking ability, in fact they seem to be testing the OPPOSITE. From the BBC article: [quote] In the first, they were tested for their ability to ignore irrelevant information. They were briefly shown a screen with two red rectangles and either 0, 2, 4 or 6 blue rectangles. The task was to determine whether, when the screen was shown again, one of the red rectangles had been rotated. Low multitaskers were better at the task, regardless of the number of blue rectangles, whereas high multitaskers got worse at it as the number of distracting blue rectangles went up. [/quote] What?? Obviously people who are WORSE multitaskers will be BETTER at ignoring the irrelevant information and focusing only on the rotation of the red rectangles. If they really wanted to test for multitasking ability they would ask for whether the red rectangles had been rotated, how many blue rectangles there were, and whether they were bigger or smaller than the last set. The other two tests also seem to test the ability to focus on a single task rather than try to test what makes someone proficient at multitasking

    1. Re:You're doing it wrong by w1 · · Score: 0

      OK I fail at slashcode

  46. Seen this before... by Avenger546 · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... when Joel Spolsky wrote "Human Task Switches Considered Harmful".

  47. Yes and no by joeyblades · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, I can multitask by reading a book and riding a stationary bike with no appreciable impact in performance of either. I can run and catch a football. I can walk down the hall and carry on a conversation. I can answer emails and listen to music.

    All of these examples involve one activity that requires attention and one that does not require attention.

    Where humans can't multitask is when two or more activities require attention. A classic example is driving and talking on a cell phone. Most people think that they can do this effectively. They are ALL wrong. They believe this because of two phenomena (1) for the most part, driving is fairly autonomous, only occasionally does it require attention (2) if your attention is on your phone conversation, you tend to miss those times when driving does require your attention unless something interrupts your attention like you have an accident or someone honks a horn at you for driving like a jackass. For the most part, these drivers are blissfully ignorant of their ineptitude behind the wheel.

    Most people who think they can multitask with other activities are wrong for the same reasons. I've yet to see someone with an open laptop in a meeting freely contribute to the process and often they force everyone else in the meeting to backtrack when their input is actually required.

    1. Re:Yes and no by wytcld · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Analysis depends on where you parse your task units. Walking miles while focusing intently on the scenery and composing a complex poem and committing it to memory can be two separate tasks, competing for attention, or they can be one single task. Making them one task was the poetic practice of Wordsworth as well as of Wallace Stevens, Basho, and Gary Snyder. Similarly listening to the melody line of a single instrument may be one task, and listening to each of the other instruments in an ensemble separate tasks, competing. Or they can all be aspects of one task, focusing on the whole of the performance while aware of each instrumental line.

      Similarly driving and listening to music can be two tasks, competing for attention. Or they can be one task, where the music and road melds to a single experience. Driving, while listening to music, while holding a conversation, while composing a poem can be separate tasks, dividing the attention, or one task, unifying it. The analyses of people driving poorly when on a cell phone suggest the problem is that people create in their minds two spaces, one of the conversation, one of the road. We might all tend to do that. But is it the only way? Can we blend multiple strands into the same space such that, rather than competing and conflicting, they create a harmonious whole? Because it seems it was precisely from such a creation that Wordsworth's poetry flowed.

      To what degree can we take a variety of activities and make a single task of them? Is it multitasking any more when we succeed?

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      "with their freedom lost all virtue lose" - Milton
    2. Re:Yes and no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I can multitask by reading a book and riding a stationary bike with no appreciable impact in performance of either. I can run and catch a football. I can walk down the hall and carry on a conversation. I can answer emails and listen to music.

      That of course depends upon your definition of "appreciable impact". A sprinter in a 100m dash would see a definite decrease in their time if trying to catch a football. Even pro football players must slow down or adjust to a football to catch it. I would also imagine you are unable to ride a stationary bike with your highest possible speed while riding a bike.

      In these cases at least one of your activities is decreased, but you were already not operating at full capacity with regards to that activity to begin and therefore see no decrease. You may be able to run at 90% of your maximum and easily catch a football or ride a bike at a comfortable pace and read. If you physically pushed yourself all out in these activities it would show more of an impact.

      All of these examples involve one activity that requires attention and one that does not require attention.

      Its not so much that they don't require attention, just that you are not devoting your full attention to it to begin with and were never operating at full capacity.

    3. Re:Yes and no by joeyblades · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure I agree with you.

      Let's take your music ensemble example. I have a pretty good ear for music. I can focus on a single instrument and distinguish every note and chord for that instrument. I can focus on a different instrument and do likewise. Or I can, as you say, focus on the whole performance, but as soon as my focus centers on the whole, I can no longer know what each instrument is doing in isolation. Now you might argue that this is just my personal weakness, but I don't think so. I think, necessarily when one allows the instruments to blend into a single composition, differentiation is no longer possible - by definition.

      Let's take your poetry example. Walking, as we said is autonomous and does not take attention unless you're walking over treacherous terrain. I challenge that the composing a poem and committing it to memory are really just two sides of the same coin. One might be able to compose a poem and not commit it to memory, but I think that's not the norm. So what about composing and looking at scenery. That seems like multitasking - depending on what we mean by "looking". If looking is merely looking, then I think it's autonomous like walking. If looking is also free associating to inspire the content of the poem, then it's multitasking, but it is arguable whether that is more efficient than say remembering the scenery from an earlier walk and focusing on the composition. Not being in the same class of poet as Wordsworth, et. al. I'm probably not qualified to judge which is more efficient... but then again, to my earlier point, perhaps they are not qualified to judge either.

      I know... when it comes to poetry, efficiency is not as important as beauty, but my earlier point was about efficiency not aesthetics...

      As for driving while listening to music, while holding a conversation, while composing a poem... remind me to give you a wide berth on the road...

    4. Re:Yes and no by SparkleMotion88 · · Score: 1

      I can run and catch a football

      Really? Do you live in St Louis? If so, I know of a good job for you.

  48. Pah! Multitasking indeed. by Centurix · · Score: 2, Funny

    Real men multi-thread

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    Task Mangler
  49. One look at our faces tells us a lot by erroneus · · Score: 1

    Our eyes are in the front, not on the sides of our heads.

    Many people already know what this means, but for those who don't, it means we are predators. This means we hunt for our food and often kill it. It also means we focus on what we do and are (and I use this word very loosely) designed to be one-track-minded and very focused on our objectives.

    Being a multi-tasker is not inherent or natural for humans at all. And anyone with familiarity with computer systems (is there anyone here on slashdot like that?) knows that scheduling processes and interrupt systems are required for multitasking on computers. This means that sensitivity to time is critical to being effective. Any human who is very good at knowing what time it is without looking at a clock might also be a good multitasker if he has trained himself to poll himself on intervals and to be able to change focus rapidly. For me, this is an unimaginable skill. And while I am sure there are people who can do exactly this, it's really hard for me to imagine it.

    Wouldn't it be nice if somehow we could create some sort of task management system to remind us to change tasks? Even then it would suck because it would sometimes require vast amounts of information dismissal and recall when changing tasks, so at the very best you could have one main task and a bunch of little interruptions that don't require much thought. (A day in the life of a systems administrator right?) Turns out that having a calendar notification system on your mobile phone is probably the most workable solution for most people... if you can remember to keep up with your calendar.

    1. Re:One look at our faces tells us a lot by Reziac · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Tho observationally, prey animals are even worse at multitasking (ie. quick task switching). Most literally can't chew and scan for predators at the same time, and tend to panic each and every time they're forced to task-switch.

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    2. Re:One look at our faces tells us a lot by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "...it means we are predators."
      no it doesn't.

      The human mind is not a computer, stop applying computing methodology to it.

      --
      The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
    3. Re:One look at our faces tells us a lot by erroneus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why do you think the human mind isn't a computer?

      The means and methods we use to compute and calculate numbers are all derived from what the mind does. The way we sort and associate data, link information, make comparisons and all the things that computers do were essentially designed after the human mind. We can't say that a computer is a human mind, but we can say that we are continuing to develop technologies "in our own image" and that our own means and methods have a great deal in common with computers as a result.

      But I will stop applying computing methodology to the human mind when the computers are not designed after human methodologies.

  50. Re-interpretation of findings by cmsjr · · Score: 1

    Stanford scientists have again proven, that anomalous results can, in fact, be generated by choosing unrepresentative models for a behavior or phenomena under study. A particular key for reaching such results in this study was to replace the simultaneous performance of multiple tasks with performing a single task involving multiple inputs and success criteria.

  51. Kind of ironic by Greenisus · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's kind of ironic that the research team is also studying how to design computer voices for cars.

  52. We are always multitasking... by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

    Human beings are ALWAYS multi tasking, just that the majority of it is unconscious. You can see hear and walk at the same time right?

    You can move, shoot, listen and watch while you play a video game, these basic functions we take for granted but we are all doing them simultaneously.

    That in itself is proof positive we are multi-tasking ALL the time. When we focus on some task or another, this requires only alocation of PART of our attention that we are aware of. There is tonnes of stuff we are doing and aren't aware of it (unconscious).

    Really to say we aren't doing many things at once essentially denies how we function normally, I think one should really talk a bout allocation attention to tasks rather then "multi tasking" since even doing a single task requires many things going on at once even if you are unaware of them.

  53. Sounds more like a case by geekoid · · Score: 1

    of people over valuing how well they do something.
    They got people who believe they are good multi-taskers.

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  54. Re:People in general by budgenator · · Score: 1

    Yeah that's like the people who say they have strong people skills, frequently they can't recognize they difference between building an agreement and bullying opposing points of view into submission.

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  55. I don't think I can trust these results... by sean.peters · · Score: 1

    According to a group of Stanford researchers ... multitaskers are bad at multitasking. The research team is also studying how to design computer voices for cars that result in safer driving.

    So, what you're telling me is that multitaskers are bad at multitasking... and the researchers who figured this out were multitasking when they did it?

  56. Brownerthanu by brownerthanu · · Score: 1
    There are two other things I would test for:
    1. Generalization. There is experimental evidence which suggests that occupying perceptual resources creates a greater ability to generalize.
    2. Awareness of the distractor data. Who does better at gathering info from the distractor objects?
  57. I can breathe and move my arm at the same time.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    isn't that multitasking?

  58. Well, to be fair. . . by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1

    Stanford scientists have again proven, that anomalous results can, in fact, be generated by choosing unrepresentative models for a behavior or phenomena under study. A particular key for reaching such results in this study was to replace the simultaneous performance of multiple tasks with performing a single task involving multiple inputs and success criteria.

    Yeah, or they simply labeled their subject of study in a way which everybody found confusing.

    They used the terms, "Low Multitaskers" and "High Multitaskers", when "Multitasker" is a pop-culture word with no formal definition in terms of psychology. So they basically made up their own definitions and performed some interesting studies, and then published findings which were then poorly reported. --Resulting in people saying, "Hey! I'm a multitasker! What are they talking about?"

    It sounds to me as though they might have communicated their findings more effectively to the masses by saying, "Multitasker" instead of "Low Multitasker" and "ADD Sufferer" instead of "High Multitasker". --Though that would have opened up a whole other kettle of smelly fish since ADD isn't clearly understood either and carries its own cultural baggage.

    I can see why they chose as they did, and I can certainly relate to their findings. --I consider myself a multitasker; I can have several projects all under steam at the same time, and I can get them all done effectively, --but I also have the ability to focus entirely on one one subject at a time. I only switch when I get run down or stuck, not when something else intrudes into my focus to distract me. It sounds like they were calling that a "Low Multitasker"

    Whereas I had this girlfriend once who would carry on a half dozen IM conversations while checking email and trying to edit and upload photographs and make food and plan for her next business day all at the same time. She did all of it very badly and couldn't will herself to focus on any one thing. I didn't consider her a multitasker so much as a bundle of clumsy nerves on the permanent verge of collapse. It was very stressful to be around and it was one of the reasons we eventually broke up. Too bad. She was otherwise a really nice girl.

    Effective multitasking requires the ability to choose and focus while also maintaining the agility necessary to jump between thoughts and make intuitive leaps.

    -FL

    1. Re:Well, to be fair. . . by cmsjr · · Score: 1

      I can see your point on it being a labeling issue. When I read "High Multitasker" I envision someone working the help desk, playing an FPS and being active on chat. (and maybe posting some opinionated response on some website)

  59. And then, of course... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    ...there's people like me. I keep at one task until I find I'm getting distracted too easily or feel that I'm starting to get stale, then I switch to something else for a while. Repeat as needed.

    It's not multitasking, but it's definitely keeping more than one ball in the air at a time. I bet this is how a lot of people work when they have a choice.

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  60. mod parent up by catbertscousin · · Score: 1

    heh

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  61. Best/Worst Semester Ever by Dareth · · Score: 2, Funny

    I once took intermediate C++, Assembler, and Programming Languages(Pascal,Ada,Lisp,Prolog) in the same semester.
    Sometimes late at night I would code in an odd mixture of languages/syntax.

    I often wished it would work, but then I never tried in in a perl interpreter, so who knows.

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    I only look human.
    My mother is a halfling and my dad is an ogre, so that makes me an Ogreling
    1. Re:Best/Worst Semester Ever by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

      Back when I was a computer engineering major, I took x86 assembler from the EE department the same semester I took Sparc assembler from the CS department. That was a bit disorienting.

  62. I blame Commodore by Veritech_Ace · · Score: 1

    Ever since the Amiga OS popularized multitasking, everybody thinks they can do it.

  63. There is no such thing as an important text by linzeal · · Score: 1

    I've never had an important text and neither have you. Note the period in the preceding sentence.

    1. Re:There is no such thing as an important text by Kagura · · Score: 1

      I am in the Army and, while I'm not sending texts in the middle of a battle or something, a lot of my admin messages are time sensitive or I can't wait til the next time I can pull over.

    2. Re:There is no such thing as an important text by pwfffff · · Score: 1

      Note the douchebag in the preceding comment.

    3. Re:There is no such thing as an important text by aynoknman · · Score: 1

      I am in the Army and, while I'm not sending texts in the middle of a battle or something, a lot of my admin messages are time sensitive or I can't wait til the next time I can pull over.

      Which war are you in? ... I want to avoid it.

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    4. Re:There is no such thing as an important text by ChameleonDave · · Score: 1

      I am in the Army and, while I'm not sending texts in the middle of a battle or something, a lot of my admin messages are time sensitive or I can't wait til the next time I can pull over.

      Unless you are in the army of a country currently being invaded, your SMSs are not that important. In fact, it would probably be better if you didn't answer them, or even walked off the job.

  64. That's it. Now, must focus long enough to reply.. by Onymous+Coward · · Score: 1

    "My head hurts, let's do something easier."

    The crux of it right there.

    We might call this "deflective multitasking", where the scheduler switches you over to other tasks as soon as you run into difficulty: trying to remember something, trying to perform a calculation, any sort of challenging task. Deflective multitasking is a natural style to adopt, a consequence of having easy access to many tasks (welcome to the modern day) and having an aversive response to difficulty. Quite natural. But here's one place where "organic" is a bad label to have.

    When we keep dodging strenuous mental work our minds atrophy. Focus, recall, calculation all suffer. We grow lamer.

    A smarter scheduling method is required for healthy multitasking. Sure, maintain the interrupt sensitivity and context switching skill — those are valuable. But lose the deflectivity.

    I think for now I'll try to implement a simple scheduler. 15 minutes per task, no switching. If my brain starts performing better I'll get back to trying a more sophisticated scheduling, honing interrupt sensitivity and context switching, and trying to find sensible moments for switching like actual resource unavailability or alternate task ripeness.

    Multitasking is useful. We shouldn't throw out the baby with the brainrot.

  65. Where's the multi-tasking? by raylu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So the tests the experiments used were:

    the groups were shown sets of two red rectangles alone or surrounded by two, four or six blue rectangles. Each configuration was flashed twice, and the participants had to determine whether the two red rectangles in the second frame were in a different position than in the first frame.

    After being shown sequences of alphabetical letters, the high multitaskers did a lousy job at remembering when a letter was making a repeat appearance.

    The test subjects were shown images of letters and numbers at the same time and instructed what to focus on. When they were told to pay attention to numbers, they had to determine if the digits were even or odd. When told to concentrate on letters, they had to say whether they were vowels or consonants.

    Given three single tasks, they found that "light multitaskers" performed better than "heavy multitaskers." Why is this surprising?

    --
    Maurice Wilkes, debugging, 1949
  66. I can by retaj · · Score: 1

    multitsk just fin, tha

  67. Study is full of holes. by v(*_*)vvvv · · Score: 1

    There are a few critical flaws with what this study is trying to prove and how it claims to have proved it. If you can play a piano with both hands, why test each finger?

    1) You may define multitasking as doing 3 things at once, but is it really? It is multiple tasks to a monotasker who prefers to only do one thing at a time, or who considers a task whole that others simply do not. IM, email, surfing, while listening to HULU , monitoring stocks, and checking your phone... The TV may be on in the background too. There may even be multiple monitors and a cupcake in one hand. To a mutlitasker, that is just "being online." 1 task. Can he do his math and biology homework at the same time? No. Does he do his taxes while he plays basketball? No. Does he want to? No.

    2) What are multitaskers good at? Losing focus. It's A.D.D. by design. So for them to not be able to focus on irrelevant rectangles could be because they aren't focused on any of the rectagles to begin with. The whole study bores them, so their brains are listening for the other channels. For those channels to not be there is why the subject slows. I bet if you put a TV next to the rectangles, his eyes would start glancing at the remote.

    3)These tests are designed for the monotasker who can think and concentrate out of context. This is a skill. When a mutlitasker is doing 8 things at once, it is all about context and gear shifting. In fact, I would go as far as to say focus is the distraction. Being focused on one thing prevents you from being focused on the whole picture.

    4) Memory is overrated. Seriously, it is faster these days to look something up than try to remember it. If you have tried to print a Wikipedia article it may surprise you how many pages they take up. Personal information, addresses, numbers, dates... everything fits neatly in a small device that never forgets. Why compete with it? Just master how to dig and how to use these new tools. Our brains are for other things.

    I would have been more impressed if the study went deeper to analyze the types of tasks that these people really do, and how they compare with each other. A multitasker has to be faster at switching between tasks. They have to be better at digging rapidly for information and scanning multiple channels for relevance. And how about brain activity levels, reflexes, and overall information consumption rates?

    In defense of the monotaskers though, it must be said that focus and being able to do one thing at a time is in itself a skill that is more difficult, and is becoming more valuable as the rest of us become random sensory input junkies. And it is easier to teach someone who can focus to multitask than someone who cannot to focus.

    Art and music are extremely important with this regard. They teach focus. Habitual focus. The kind that matters.

  68. Pish posh by cromar · · Score: 1

    I multitask fine... maybe you shouldn't multitask if you can't do it right? You know: build, surf, edit, build, surf, edit, build, get a coffee, edit, etc.

  69. Multitasking in computers is a myth. by v(*_*)vvvv · · Score: 1

    Define "one". A processor cannot do two operations at once. Everything is put into a line, and that one line is dealt with really really fast. On the surface, we see windows, video, audio, web pages reloading, mail clients fetching mail, and incoming chats making sounds. But the processor is only really doing "one" thing.

    1. Re:Multitasking in computers is a myth. by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      Define "one". A processor cannot do two operations at once. Everything is put into a line, and that one line is dealt with really really fast.
      I think your understanding of computer architecture is a bit behind the times.

      It used to be that computers fetched an intrustruction, decoded it, executed it and moved on to the next one.

      Then came pipelining, this basically meant that they could start on one instruction before finishing the previous provided there weren't any data dependency issues blocking it.

      Then came things like out of order execution and virtual registers to try and keep the pipeline full more of the time.

      When that still wasn't enough to keep the hugely long pipeline of the P4 full they introduced hyperthreading so work could be taken from more than one thread at a time, a P4 really can be working on two totally seperate tasks at the same time.

      With core 2 they dropped hyperthreading for a while but put two complete cores on the die so again the chip could be working on two totally seperate tasks at the same time (or four if you went for the version with two dies in the package).

      With core i7 they brought back hyperthreading and kept two cores on the die. So it could be working on four seperate tasks at once (or eight if you went for the version with two dies in the package).

      AMD has also been going in for multicore though I don't think they have used hyperthreading.

      The impression I have got is that CPU clocks aren't likely to increase increase at anything like the rate they did in the past so our gains are going to come from chips that do more and more at the same time.

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      note: i'm known as plugwash most places but i screwd up registering that here somehow in the past and now can't register
    2. Re:Multitasking in computers is a myth. by v(*_*)vvvv · · Score: 1

      I did oversimplify a complex gadget, only to make a point, but I will add to parts of what you are saying that help illustrate my point.

      I am talking about a processor at its lowest level. The only technology you mentioned that I would consider doing two tasks at once would be with multiple processors. But still, one processor is only processing one line, so it is still no exception. That is my point.

      With pipelining and hyperthreading they are adding ways to manage the line, but aren't increasing the numbers of lines that go into the core processor. They don't have to. If you want two lines, get another processor. Processors are about doing one line fast.

      And with every higher level of abstraction there will be more tasks and more lines. They may even appear to be parallel or even simultaneous. The point is, under every abstraction layer, there is convergence, and ultimately at the lowest level, the core processor is only blindly chewing one cycle at a time.

      Of course, depending on where you draw the line, the "processor" has more and more features. If you draw it where Intel wants you to draw it, then the latest processors do have multiple cores. But at some point someone does need to tell an instruction whether to use the processor to its left or to its right.

  70. Computer voices in cars? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    No thanks. Next they will try to put a cup holder in my car.

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    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
  71. Required vs. Preferred by umundane · · Score: 1

    There are certainly people who prefer to multitask, and I guess I'd tend to agree with TFS that each individual task suffers to some degree.

    However, to avoid writing off multitasking altogether, it's worth considering situations where multitasking is *required* rather than merely preferred. My partner regularly makes dinner, keeps the three kids from drowning in the pool, and has a conversation on the phone. Yeah, some stuff gets burned, but the kids rarely die, so I'd say she's doing a pretty good job.

  72. from a habitual multitasker by Khashishi · · Score: 1

    No wonder I can't seem to get any work done while reading Slashdot.

  73. Poor Test Group by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would really like to know who these so called multi-taskers are that they tested. I do multiple thing at the same time every single day especially with computers. The test was with gaming, IMing and a bunch of other computer based things. It is called multiple monitors lol. I play 2 games at the same time every day while talking with friends on Steam or Xfire quite frequently. It is not hard to do but not everyone can do it. Some people think they are multitaskers but really are not mentally capable of doing it... others are, so i am just saying that their test group was probably not very good.

  74. What? by EvilBudMan · · Score: 1

    What was the question? Oh, yeah it gives you CRS when u mutltiimnf

  75. Yep. Women think they are clever, but aren't by echtertyp · · Score: 1

    One sees this a lot in work settings. A lot of women have been told (or have read repeatedly) that they are sooooo clever and great at multitasking, while the dullard men can only do one thing at a time, and badly at that. But -- in real life , as time goes on, it's always the men who become the "go to" employees for getting things done, in every workplace I've been in. The confident, empowered, do-it-all women are eventually seen as not much use, to be worked around and bypassed. Harsh but that's the way it is.

  76. Re:Text while driving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This test worked for me.

  77. My manager needs to read this article . . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my performance review, while giving me props for how effective I am at my job, I was given several, "I just wish you could multi-task more," jabs throughout. Here is the evidence that *maybe* my effectiveness is due to the fact that I *focus* on the task at hand . . . Thanks for the article

  78. Never let your healer multitask by shalla · · Score: 1

    I would conjecture that those who feel they are good at multitasking do _not_ feel this -- and that's both why they feel they are good at multitasking, and why they are actually bad at it.

    Yes. And anyone who has ever played with a gamer who fancies him or herself a multitasker knows this. They never seem to understand that you're pissed off for a reason. Subtle outbursts like, "OMG, turn the damn movie off, stop IMing your friends, and pay attention to the screen. There's a reason the rest of us don't want to group with you and that you suck at doing quests!" seem to confuse them, because they are GOOD at multitasking!

    Not that I'm bitter. *coughs*

    1. Re:Never let your healer multitask by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      Yes. And anyone who has ever played with a gamer who fancies him or herself a multitasker knows this. They never seem to understand that you're pissed off for a reason. Subtle outbursts like, "OMG, turn the damn movie off, stop IMing your friends, and pay attention to the screen. There's a reason the rest of us don't want to group with you and that you suck at doing quests!" seem to confuse them, because they are GOOD at multitasking!

      I was with you until you said screen (although you could have meant the DM screen). "Multitasking" role-players suck extra hard. Lest we forget:
      Nightblade: OGRES!?! Man, I got an ogre slaying knife! It's got a +9 against ogres!
      If he hadn't been getting cheetos and mtn dew, then he'd be with his party and they'd stand a chance. We all know a Nightblade.

  79. Is that insightful - haha or insightful - strange by srobert · · Score: 1

    It's insightful to note that I might have been modded "funny" instead of "insightful" with a higher ID. I was shooting for "funny". I thought it was pretty funny that someone found it "insightful".

  80. Hope the girlfriend doesn't RTFA! by will_frag_for_food · · Score: 1

    I've got her convinced that I am listening to her while playing games and watching movies... this could bring down my whole house of cards!

  81. Multiple high priority tasks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ability to multitask depends on task's priority, duration etc & brain's training to those tasks.
    I was surprised with my kid's science project, (I was a guinea pig), where he picked tasks varied in focus (e.g. balance), duration, computing (simple math), memory.

    Once he created combination of tasks, I predictably failed in doing multiple high-priority tasks & on longer duration tasks which overlapped with high priority task.

    The habitual multitaskers probably train their brain to periodically interrupt & inability to NMI. Folks who store the context are probably less affected

  82. Test Subjects: LEFT or RIGHT Handed? by curmudgeon99 · · Score: 1

    Unless the researchers controlled for handedness, this study is meaningless. Why?

    Thanks to the work of Dr. Roger Sperry [winner of the 1981 Nobel Prize for this work], we know that the Left hemisphere of the brain processes information in a Linear-Sequential manner, which makes it optimized for Language.

    This faster, Linear-Sequential Hemisphere--the Left--is mostly gray matter, which reflects how it is specialized to hold many, small, discrete memory locations, such as are used to store words.

    Dr. Sperry also determined through his split-brain experiments that the Right hemisphere of the brain processes information in a Visual-Simultaneous manner, which makes it optimized for Vision.

    This slower, Visual-Simultaneous Hemisphere--the Right--is mostly white matter, which reflects how it is specialized to have many long axons that connect make the multiple connections between neurons, such as are used to store images.

    According to Roger Sperry, in Left-handed people, the Right Brain dominates. In Right-handed people, the Left Brain dominates.

    Because their dominant brain hemisphere is the linear one, Right-Handed people cannot effectively multi-task. If a Right-Handed person interrupts a task to do another, when they return to the interrupted task, their progress up to that point is discarded and they must begin again. Therefore, for the right-handed person, multi-tasking is wasteful.

    Because their dominant brain hemisphere is the visualone, Left-Handed people can effectively multi-task. If a Left-Handed person interrupts a task to do another, when they return to the interrupted task, their progress up to that point can be resumed because of the ability to hang on to more trains of thought. Therefor, for the right-handed person, multi-tasking is useful.

  83. Stinking goldfarmer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try actually playing one of the games once.

  84. Another paradigm for looking at this problem by vivekv · · Score: 1

    Isnt the fundamental assumption here that human beings have only one core? If you think that we actually have mutiple cores albeit each one working at a different level of conscience then this is not really so confusing to understand is it? For example I am actually working on a power point deck right now but I am having a bit of a writer's block and this /. article was on my mind since evening and this idea came up about cores that I thought could be a completely different way of looking at the problem and I am sure somewhere subconsciously my deck is also getting sorted out ;)

  85. Is this some sort of double entendre? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My preferred one is "Nerds do it Rarely"

  86. test flawed by Teriblows · · Score: 1

    "In the first, they were tested for their ability to ignore irrelevant information. They were briefly shown a screen with two red rectangles and either 0, 2, 4 or 6 blue rectangles." things like this are not equivalent to listening to music and doing things that are interesting to the user. multitasking involves filtering out unnecessary information..sometimes skipping bits all together. perhaps your brain misses part of a song when you have to concentrate harder on some message you are writing, but thats just fine. its completely different that trying to juggle two arbitrary tasks which are far more demanding of attention than doing two things which you've become so used to that you just flow.

  87. such bs, defies common sense. by Teriblows · · Score: 1

    I heard this "researcher" talk more about his study on kqed forum program. His tests don't have anything to do with how people actually multitask, which is based on a level of comfort that naturally leads to such behavior. he talked about flashing letters and having the people try to remember letters 3 letters back while multitasking. this is a nonsense task that has nothing to do with how people are actually working. he claims that since people couldn't remember the letters that means that they were totally failing, but that makes no sense at all. if people were failing to remember what they were talking about when switching between chat windows and other media then they would naturally be so confused that multitasking would become impossible. clearly conversing and surfing the web using media is not equivalent to ridiculous tasks like remembering flashed letters that people have no interest in.

  88. The best multitasking test I've found.. by serviett · · Score: 1

    ..happens to be this little online game called Arcadia. You play four little mini-games all at once and it's really interesting to watch people play it. Some are stressed out from the very start, just by the THOUGHT of monitoring four separate events. To others it comes almost naturally. Also, it's interesting to see how long it takes before people begin to see which of the mini-games are important and which ones pretty much play themselves. The game: http://www.addictinggames.com/arcadia.html