thus shouldn't the corporation's corporate papers be limited to the issuing state?
I repeat: just to assuage your fear and ignorance? What possible benefit is there to the public from limiting interstate commerce in this way?
Yes, but you'd be even richer if you paid him the same wages as the lowest factory worker in China. Or did that not occur to you?
What clearly hasn't occurred to you, is the concept of incentive. Look at the dismal state of the Cuban or North Korean economy for the results of the polcies you advocate.
This habit of jerking customers around is why they're going to follow Gateway down the drain. Good for HP and Apple, sucks for Dell's customers and shareholders.
Your complaint presumes that Microsoft is capable of just giving customers what they want. With their current state of management dysfunction, Vista is in all likelihood the very best product they could make. Sad, but true.
I'd have to say that Vista is the greatest gift MS could have possibly given to Linux, BSD, and the Mac. When longhorn cratered, they rushed out a cosmetic update, that is so utterly mediocre, and yet requires hardware upgrades for even its trivial improvements. That puts a lot of customers in play who got sick of waiting, and aren't about to wait six years for MS's next try.
MS is going to lose a lot of their market share in the next few years, with Linux picking up most of the server business, and the Mac getting the desktops and laptops.
iPhone works with POP and IMAP. They found a couple of IT drones who hadn't bothered to find out what was involved in supporting the iPhone, and just assumed that they'd have to jump through the same hoops that RIM requires.
I have a rather more optimistic view of the Chinese. Most of them know that their government is rotten, and all they need to topple it is to realize that most of their fellow citizens feel the same way. That's why the party is so deathly afraid of improving communications. It's not traffic between China and the west that will free them, though. It's internal communications that will bring the commies down.
Personally, I'm thrilled to look forward to what China can do when they become free. They will make amazing contributions to the world.
The Chinese people will be free, and probably sooner than any of us expect. The Tienanmen square uprising was crushed by troops who were brought in from far away, and had no idea what was happening in Beijing. Eventually, the power of the party to control communications will be overwhelmed, and they'll be made accountable for their crimes against China.
Today, most Chinese have no idea at all that Mao not only killed more Chinese than Tojo, he was the greatest mass-murderer in history.
shouldn't a corporation be limited to doing business in the state in which it was incorporated?
Why, just to assuage your fear and ignorance?
So you don't mind that Steve Jobs is stealing from you?
My, you are thick, aren't you? Steve Jobs is compensated with my full consent, and that of an overwhelming majority of my fellow shareholders. He's done an incredible job, and we shareholders are considerably richer as a result.
Safari on Windows does nothing for Apple's bottom line.
Incorrect, on several counts:
First, it makes Apple some tens of millions on revenues from Google searches, which more than pays for the entire Safari team. John Lilly went apeshit, because he rightly sees Safari as a threat to his not-for-profit, $40M/year operation. All protestations of altruism aside, FF makes some serious money for many people.
Second, it closes the door quite decisively on future MS attempts to turn the web into a microsoft-only playground. MS came dangerously close to this when they killed netscape. FF and the others have helped, but Apple would have to be nuts to leave something so important in the hands of the open-source hippies.
Thirdly, the more people use an Apple product on Windows, whether it's Safari, iTunes, or any other apps they may port in the future, the more people are likely to stop by an Apple store the next time they're shopping for a computer.
Fourthly, Safari on Windows is the first Objective-C app to be ported to Windows in something close to a decade, and the work done will pay off when Apple ships iWork on Windows (yes, I'm convinced that will happen; AppleWorks shipped on Windows back in the day, and FileMaker is still there. Apple's not going to confine themselves to competing in the operating systems arena.)
So, the ultimate effect of Safari on Windows for Apple's bottom line, is probably hundreds of millions of dollars in the next two years, and billions over the long haul.
Would that include cutting out the completely unconstitutional act of creating artificial people through incorporation of businesses?
Incorporation is a matter of state law, and the constitution doesn't prohibit the states from creating corporations, as they had been doing for quite a long time before the constitution was ratified.
vote themselves largese from the treasury.
Your statement presumes that the earnings of a company belong to the state, rather than its owners, which is utterly wrong, both legally and morally. If you object to the compensation of the executives of any company of which you are a shareholder, then vote your shares. For my part, I'm quite happy with the results I'm getting from the management of the companies in which I've invested. In fact, I'd love to see how much more I could make if Apple had given Steve Jobs *two* airplanes.
Is this the same standard of living that has been falling for the past 40 years?
People are of course working longer hours, and many more women work today, largely because of the increased tax burden that comes with a government that's growing out of control. I'm not sure that our standard of living has in fact been falling for forty years, but it's certainly below where it could be if we cut the government back to its constitutional powers.
If you have a Social Security Card, you've become a shareholder.
Very glib, but completely inaccurate. If you have a social security card, then you're someone who has been forced to pay into a bankrupt pyramid scheme. This is completely orthogonal to what the owners of a company choose to pay its executives.
Yup, that growth will "trickle down" to everyone, I'm sure. It's done a great job of it so far!
Actually it has. Compare the standard of living of the countries with relatively free markets to those of such socialist paradises as Cuba, the Soviet Union, China before they started to wise up, etc.
As for the money that corporate CEOs make, what's it to you? Are you a shareholder?
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Many people have said that
I'm sure many people have a keen grasp of the obvious.
Going public is *ALWAYS* a mistake for any company
Man, keep 'em coming! You're hilarious.
-jcr
If ever run a company, please let me know. I'll be sure to short your stock.
-jcr
thus shouldn't the corporation's corporate papers be limited to the issuing state?
I repeat: just to assuage your fear and ignorance? What possible benefit is there to the public from limiting interstate commerce in this way?
Yes, but you'd be even richer if you paid him the same wages as the lowest factory worker in China. Or did that not occur to you?
What clearly hasn't occurred to you, is the concept of incentive. Look at the dismal state of the Cuban or North Korean economy for the results of the polcies you advocate.
-jcr
a vast improvement security-wise, GUI-wise and feature-wise Vista is over it's predecessors,
That's what I call damning with faint praise.
-jcr
I hate Vista because I'm way more familiar with it than I ever wanted to be.
I'm sorry you had to go through that, but the more I hear stories like this, the happier I am being an Apple shareholder.
-jcr
Have a look at Apple's latest quarterly report.
I always do.
After Vista launched, a huge number of people bought Macs.
Yep. Vista was MS's last chance with an awful lot of customers. They'd waited six years, and they're not about to do it again.
-jcr
This habit of jerking customers around is why they're going to follow Gateway down the drain. Good for HP and Apple, sucks for Dell's customers and shareholders.
-jcr
It's happening now. Check the growth in Apple's unit volume since Vista hit the streets.
-jcr
Your complaint presumes that Microsoft is capable of just giving customers what they want. With their current state of management dysfunction, Vista is in all likelihood the very best product they could make. Sad, but true.
-jcr
I'd have to say that Vista is the greatest gift MS could have possibly given to Linux, BSD, and the Mac. When longhorn cratered, they rushed out a cosmetic update, that is so utterly mediocre, and yet requires hardware upgrades for even its trivial improvements. That puts a lot of customers in play who got sick of waiting, and aren't about to wait six years for MS's next try.
MS is going to lose a lot of their market share in the next few years, with Linux picking up most of the server business, and the Mac getting the desktops and laptops.
-jcr
Nope, Mao killed about 77 million through his starvation policy, and Stalin only managed about 20 million.
-jcr
Exchange isn't "poorer quality" - it's very good at what it does.
Except for this little issue of having to run on an unreliable and unsecureable platform.
-jcr
iPhone works with POP and IMAP. They found a couple of IT drones who hadn't bothered to find out what was involved in supporting the iPhone, and just assumed that they'd have to jump through the same hoops that RIM requires.
-jcr
I will never own a Mac until Steverino departs the scene..
In that case, speaking for Mac users and Apple shareholders everywhere, I hope you never own a Mac.
-jcr
Well, that depends on whether consular officers are allowed to scan /. for a visa applicant's postings, doesn't it?
-jcr
I have no sympathy for them.
I have a rather more optimistic view of the Chinese. Most of them know that their government is rotten, and all they need to topple it is to realize that most of their fellow citizens feel the same way. That's why the party is so deathly afraid of improving communications. It's not traffic between China and the west that will free them, though. It's internal communications that will bring the commies down.
Personally, I'm thrilled to look forward to what China can do when they become free. They will make amazing contributions to the world.
-jcr
The Chinese people will be free, and probably sooner than any of us expect. The Tienanmen square uprising was crushed by troops who were brought in from far away, and had no idea what was happening in Beijing. Eventually, the power of the party to control communications will be overwhelmed, and they'll be made accountable for their crimes against China.
Today, most Chinese have no idea at all that Mao not only killed more Chinese than Tojo, he was the greatest mass-murderer in history.
-jcr
shouldn't a corporation be limited to doing business in the state in which it was incorporated?
Why, just to assuage your fear and ignorance?
So you don't mind that Steve Jobs is stealing from you?
My, you are thick, aren't you? Steve Jobs is compensated with my full consent, and that of an overwhelming majority of my fellow shareholders. He's done an incredible job, and we shareholders are considerably richer as a result.
-jcr
Safari on Windows does nothing for Apple's bottom line.
Incorrect, on several counts:
First, it makes Apple some tens of millions on revenues from Google searches, which more than pays for the entire Safari team. John Lilly went apeshit, because he rightly sees Safari as a threat to his not-for-profit, $40M/year operation. All protestations of altruism aside, FF makes some serious money for many people.
Second, it closes the door quite decisively on future MS attempts to turn the web into a microsoft-only playground. MS came dangerously close to this when they killed netscape. FF and the others have helped, but Apple would have to be nuts to leave something so important in the hands of the open-source hippies.
Thirdly, the more people use an Apple product on Windows, whether it's Safari, iTunes, or any other apps they may port in the future, the more people are likely to stop by an Apple store the next time they're shopping for a computer.
Fourthly, Safari on Windows is the first Objective-C app to be ported to Windows in something close to a decade, and the work done will pay off when Apple ships iWork on Windows (yes, I'm convinced that will happen; AppleWorks shipped on Windows back in the day, and FileMaker is still there. Apple's not going to confine themselves to competing in the operating systems arena.)
So, the ultimate effect of Safari on Windows for Apple's bottom line, is probably hundreds of millions of dollars in the next two years, and billions over the long haul.
-jcr
Would that include cutting out the completely unconstitutional act of creating artificial people through incorporation of businesses?
Incorporation is a matter of state law, and the constitution doesn't prohibit the states from creating corporations, as they had been doing for quite a long time before the constitution was ratified.
vote themselves largese from the treasury.
Your statement presumes that the earnings of a company belong to the state, rather than its owners, which is utterly wrong, both legally and morally. If you object to the compensation of the executives of any company of which you are a shareholder, then vote your shares. For my part, I'm quite happy with the results I'm getting from the management of the companies in which I've invested. In fact, I'd love to see how much more I could make if Apple had given Steve Jobs *two* airplanes.
-jcr
It was adobe who really did all the work getting safari to run in windows
Dude, you need to find a better dealer. Whatever your guy's cutting your crack with is really skanky.
-jcr
. That means that the regular Mac buyer is someone who finds a Windows based PC too hard to use.
Too hard, or not worth the trouble. I can walk a hundred miles, but I'd rather drive.
-jcr
Wealth inequity is a societal problem
No, envy is an individual vice.
-jcr
Is this the same standard of living that has been falling for the past 40 years?
People are of course working longer hours, and many more women work today, largely because of the increased tax burden that comes with a government that's growing out of control. I'm not sure that our standard of living has in fact been falling for forty years, but it's certainly below where it could be if we cut the government back to its constitutional powers.
If you have a Social Security Card, you've become a shareholder.
Very glib, but completely inaccurate. If you have a social security card, then you're someone who has been forced to pay into a bankrupt pyramid scheme. This is completely orthogonal to what the owners of a company choose to pay its executives.
-jcr
Yup, that growth will "trickle down" to everyone, I'm sure. It's done a great job of it so far!
Actually it has. Compare the standard of living of the countries with relatively free markets to those of such socialist paradises as Cuba, the Soviet Union, China before they started to wise up, etc.
As for the money that corporate CEOs make, what's it to you? Are you a shareholder?
-jcr