Yes, so what? We're talking about Google here. not Samsung, Motorola, or Nokia.
We're not JUST talking about phones. They are an indicator that there's money available for other things than the bare necessities even in the "third world".
If you start to ask them to filter one specific thing then it means they are taking away their impartiality.
ISPs have terms of service. Many will take your site down if you host MP3s, warez, or porn (obviously, others are quite happy for you to do so). Many have broad language saying you're basically not allowed to be a "server". Which if strictly enforced, would stop you doing almost everything.
I don't know about you, but I could never see myself as a plumber or car mechanic or house painter. They're probably far easier than computer science could ever be,
Oh really. My father was a house painter, I worked at it on holidays for years. Try scraping rusty iron grill work down in 100 degree heat for a week. Try crawling on your knees for another few days sanding down skirting boards. Try lifting 20 foot scaffolds and walking along planks two storeys above the ground while using a power sander. Yeah spending a day in an Aeron chair playing with your nerf gun in between coding is much harder. And if you mean "brainless", well my father served a seven-year apprenticeship. Any idiot can slap on a coat of paint. The test is what it looks like six months later. That work was too damn hard for me to spend my life at. So I took the soft option of earning a Computer Science degree.
Thats like saying because you wanted to get a hand gun, your going to be a school shooter.
You apparently didn't RTFA. I wouldn't mind so much, but in spite of that your post is modded "insightful"....
Anyway, the "probable cause" was not in this case simply having an open WAP, it was living at the address associated with an IP used to send kiddie porn. Perhaps your analogy would be having bought the gun matching the bullets used in a crime. Not just any gun. In neither case is that evidence alone enough to convict, but it is enough to allow a warrant to search. In the case in TFA, this search found a pile of kiddie porn on CDROM. Even though it turns out the IP used belonged to a neighbour with an open WAP. As if the gun was found to have been borrowed from the acual owner, and the borrower was charged.
The FBI can pretty much kick your door down and search on suspicion of being involved with kiddie porn, already, this is not a new power they're exercising. It's the attempted defense that's unusual.
I don't care whether you are Republican or Democrat - how can you stand to listen to this opportunistic, Internet-inventing, hypocrite?
Because he's right? None of your invective about his lifestyle or pesonality affect the basic thesis. But you "deniers" attack Gore personally as if that woud discredit the idea supported by every major scientific organisation from the Royal Society to the AAAS and down.
Thats a huge number of last name out there even %0.1 is still thousands of kids leaving themselves open.
Open to what? Many of them probably have their surnames printed on their clothes, books, bags.... I had mine painted on my bike. Every day in the newspaper you see photos of people with their full names. (Eg, local sports events reports.) Oh no! But wait, they've been doing that for 100 years. Having it on the INTERNET means it must be dangerous, because everyone knows pedophiles would rather track someone down online with their elite hacker skillz than hang around a mall. That would be too easy.
What risk, they "exposed" their cell, phone numbers. Big deal. My phone number, name and address have been PRINTED IN THE PHONE BOOK for the last 20 years!!! Yet I have somehow survived. There are much greater risks in the real world than online, or on the phone.
Normally we make fun of Slashdot editors for not being able to spell simple English terms familiar to a mass audience correctly. They loose there audience...
Internet radio will just move off-shore, and continue unaffected.
If overseas Internet radio starts to be popular in the US, they'll try to kill/block that too, as they did with Russia's AllofMP3, by suing them in their home countries and/or lobbying the government to apply diplomatic pressure.
But as the entry cost goes down, and especially as most streams would be free, and thus leave no paper/money trail, it ultimately would fail to stem the tide.
I still have email archive from 9 years ago on DVD.
If you don't get a lot of bloated attachments, simple text email is pretty compact. I generally strip the HTML and images too. Not counting mailing lists, my email for the last 15 years comes to about a 20 MB RAR file.
I periodically stash encrypted archives on the free space on video DVDs I burn. Usually there's a few hundred MB capacity.
So if my house burns to the ground, I can borrow DVDs back from my buddies and restore my email, and a few other vital files.
Oh well, this proves that Microsoft is not the only one that can buy politicians.:)
TFA is very light on verifiable facts. It links to an editorial, not a news article. I dug arounbd for a while but couldn't find what the proposers of this idea actually said, only those attacking them.
But one thing, it does say "MP3 player or iPod". This could very likely mean that "iPod" is being used as a generic term; like "walkman", "hoover", kleeenx", as just meaning a kind of hardware despite their being trademarks. Apple may get a look in, but if it goes through it could easily be some generic MP3 player with low-end specs.
In South-West Utah, whenever some road work was going to be done, they would find a dead tortoise on the road, and the environmentalists would cry foul. After they did an autopsy on one, they found frozen lettuce in its stomach. The environmentalists had caught them live, fed them for a while, then froze them until "needed".
And you have a report on this you can direct us to?
Think of it like this: What does it matter if the air quality is good when your economy has collapsed?
Think of it like this: How good will your economy be when people take days off from work for bronchial infections, asthme, and are dropping like flies from cancer? Have a look at the heavy industrial cities of Russia and China, where life expectancy is falling by the year, and the economies are tanking because no one wants to live or invest there?
DZERZINSK, RUSSIA
In Dzerzhinsk, a significant center of the Russian chemical manufacturing, the average life expectancy is 42 years for men and 47 for women. Despite the heavy toll on the populations health, a quarter of the city's 300,000 residents are still employed in factories that turn out toxic chemicals. According to a 2003 BBC report it is the young who are most vulnerable. In the local cemetery, there are a shocking number of graves of people below the age of 40. In 2003 it was reported that the death rate exceeded the birth rate by 2.6 times and it is easy to see why. The dioxins that get into the water as a by-product of chlorine production are reported to cause cancer even in minute doses.
LINFEN, SHANXI PROVINCE, CHINA
Shanxi Province is considered to be the heart of Chinas enormous and expanding coal industry, providing about two thirds of the nations energy. Within it, Linfen has been identified as one of Shanxis most polluted cities with residents claiming that they literally choke on coal dust in the evenings, according to a BBC report. Local clinics are seeing growing cases of bronchitis, pneumonia, and lung cancer. Lead poisoning was also seen at very high rates in Chinese children in the Shanxi Province.
LA OROYA, PERU
Since 1922, adults and children in La Oroya, Peru - a mining town in the Peruvian Andes and the site of a poly-metallic smelter - have been exposed to the toxic emissions from the plant. Currently owned by the Missouri-based Doe Run Corporation, the plant is largely responsible for the dangerously high blood lead levels found in the children of this community. Ninety-nine percent of children living in and around La Oroya have blood lead levels that exceed acceptable amounts. Sulfur dioxide concentrations also exceed the World Health Organization emissions standards by ten fold. The vegetation in the surrounding area has been destroyed by acid rain due to high sulfur dioxide emissions.
in short: we could fire it into the sun or the core of a gas giant, where it will never be seen again.
That's fucking insane. A percentage of rockets do blow up on ascent, and making a container that could survive that and not release highly poisonous waste into the air would weigh much more than the waste itself. It would cost billions to dispose of a few tons.
There are plenty of safer and much, much, cheaper ways to dispose of nuclear waste. Yucca Mountain is pretty ideal, except for those who live nearby.
Democrats on the other hand tend to be much less supportive of applied sciences, especially nuclear research and new industrial technologies.
Engineering isn't basic science. Deciding they'd rather not support a technology is not much to do with supporting science. In fact, if these were economically viable, they wouldn't need government subsidy anyway.
The problem isn't that Republicans are at war with science, or the Democrats. The problem is that we have put politicians in charge of science!
Who should be "in charge of science" then? The church? I guess you mean scientists should be in charge of science. But when it comes to spending money, as when someone actually wants to do science, the government has to pony up. And thus ultimately, politicians have a say; unless you're going to give scientists a blank cheque.
But I don't accept your claim that the Republicans are no worse than Democrats in this respect. Just how they deal with evolution and global warming, at least in Bush's reign, is much worse than anything I can recall a Democratic leadership doing. Perhaps you'd like to give some counter examples?
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Actually, I live in China.
II'm pretty sure Sony Clie is gay. And I've always assumed my Palm V is hetero.
Well, I don't have one, for a start.
We're not JUST talking about phones. They are an indicator that there's money available for other things than the bare necessities even in the "third world".
The point is that there is a huge market and demand for such gadgets. And it's not just the third world where mobiles are cheaper than land lines.
Data point: there are 300 million mobile phone users in China.
ISPs have terms of service. Many will take your site down if you host MP3s, warez, or porn (obviously, others are quite happy for you to do so). Many have broad language saying you're basically not allowed to be a "server". Which if strictly enforced, would stop you doing almost everything.
Consider the White House. Owned by the government. I take a photo of it. The copyright of that image belongs to me.
You can stand next to me and take an almost identical photo. But you can't copy MY photo.
Oh really. My father was a house painter, I worked at it on holidays for years. Try scraping rusty iron grill work down in 100 degree heat for a week. Try crawling on your knees for another few days sanding down skirting boards. Try lifting 20 foot scaffolds and walking along planks two storeys above the ground while using a power sander. Yeah spending a day in an Aeron chair playing with your nerf gun in between coding is much harder. And if you mean "brainless", well my father served a seven-year apprenticeship. Any idiot can slap on a coat of paint. The test is what it looks like six months later. That work was too damn hard for me to spend my life at. So I took the soft option of earning a Computer Science degree.
You apparently didn't RTFA. I wouldn't mind so much, but in spite of that your post is modded "insightful"....
Anyway, the "probable cause" was not in this case simply having an open WAP, it was living at the address associated with an IP used to send kiddie porn. Perhaps your analogy would be having bought the gun matching the bullets used in a crime. Not just any gun. In neither case is that evidence alone enough to convict, but it is enough to allow a warrant to search. In the case in TFA, this search found a pile of kiddie porn on CDROM. Even though it turns out the IP used belonged to a neighbour with an open WAP. As if the gun was found to have been borrowed from the acual owner, and the borrower was charged.
The FBI can pretty much kick your door down and search on suspicion of being involved with kiddie porn, already, this is not a new power they're exercising. It's the attempted defense that's unusual.
Because he's right? None of your invective about his lifestyle or pesonality affect the basic thesis. But you "deniers" attack Gore personally as if that woud discredit the idea supported by every major scientific organisation from the Royal Society to the AAAS and down.
Open to what? Many of them probably have their surnames printed on their clothes, books, bags.... I had mine painted on my bike. Every day in the newspaper you see photos of people with their full names. (Eg, local sports events reports.) Oh no! But wait, they've been doing that for 100 years. Having it on the INTERNET means it must be dangerous, because everyone knows pedophiles would rather track someone down online with their elite hacker skillz than hang around a mall. That would be too easy.
What risk, they "exposed" their cell, phone numbers. Big deal. My phone number, name and address have been PRINTED IN THE PHONE BOOK for the last 20 years!!! Yet I have somehow survived. There are much greater risks in the real world than online, or on the phone.
Normally we make fun of Slashdot editors for not being able to spell simple English terms familiar to a mass audience correctly. They loose there audience...
If overseas Internet radio starts to be popular in the US, they'll try to kill/block that too, as they did with Russia's AllofMP3, by suing them in their home countries and/or lobbying the government to apply diplomatic pressure.
But as the entry cost goes down, and especially as most streams would be free, and thus leave no paper/money trail, it ultimately would fail to stem the tide.
On what grounds?
Who *wouldn't* run afoul of the the Thought Police if they had people "assigned" to monitor their speech?
"Thought Police"? They weren't bugging his phone, they were listening, along with perhaps two million other people, to a radio broadcast.
politi-fatwa.
Ah, the "Islamo-fascist" card. If you're not with the rednecks, you must be with the terrorists.
Advertisers didn't like the smell he was making, they pulled their ads. His job was to sell ads.
If you don't get a lot of bloated attachments, simple text email is pretty compact. I generally strip the HTML and images too. Not counting mailing lists, my email for the last 15 years comes to about a 20 MB RAR file. I periodically stash encrypted archives on the free space on video DVDs I burn. Usually there's a few hundred MB capacity. So if my house burns to the ground, I can borrow DVDs back from my buddies and restore my email, and a few other vital files.
Right, load http://lexus.eu./ Immediately redirected to http://www.lexus-europe.com/.
That's their best example? What a waste of time. Who actually USES this TLD?
TFA is very light on verifiable facts. It links to an editorial, not a news article. I dug arounbd for a while but couldn't find what the proposers of this idea actually said, only those attacking them.
But one thing, it does say "MP3 player or iPod". This could very likely mean that "iPod" is being used as a generic term; like "walkman", "hoover", kleeenx", as just meaning a kind of hardware despite their being trademarks. Apple may get a look in, but if it goes through it could easily be some generic MP3 player with low-end specs.
So you don't have any actual examples then.
And you have a report on this you can direct us to?
Think of it like this: How good will your economy be when people take days off from work for bronchial infections, asthme, and are dropping like flies from cancer? Have a look at the heavy industrial cities of Russia and China, where life expectancy is falling by the year, and the economies are tanking because no one wants to live or invest there?
Worst polluted cites
DZERZINSK, RUSSIA
In Dzerzhinsk, a significant center of the Russian chemical manufacturing, the average life expectancy is 42 years for men and 47 for women. Despite the heavy toll on the populations health, a quarter of the city's 300,000 residents are still employed in factories that turn out toxic chemicals. According to a 2003 BBC report it is the young who are most vulnerable. In the local cemetery, there are a shocking number of graves of people below the age of 40. In 2003 it was reported that the death rate exceeded the birth rate by 2.6 times and it is easy to see why. The dioxins that get into the water as a by-product of chlorine production are reported to cause cancer even in minute doses.
LINFEN, SHANXI PROVINCE, CHINA
Shanxi Province is considered to be the heart of Chinas enormous and expanding coal industry, providing about two thirds of the nations energy. Within it, Linfen has been identified as one of Shanxis most polluted cities with residents claiming that they literally choke on coal dust in the evenings, according to a BBC report. Local clinics are seeing growing cases of bronchitis, pneumonia, and lung cancer. Lead poisoning was also seen at very high rates in Chinese children in the Shanxi Province.
LA OROYA, PERU
Since 1922, adults and children in La Oroya, Peru - a mining town in the Peruvian Andes and the site of a poly-metallic smelter - have been exposed to the toxic emissions from the plant. Currently owned by the Missouri-based Doe Run Corporation, the plant is largely responsible for the dangerously high blood lead levels found in the children of this community. Ninety-nine percent of children living in and around La Oroya have blood lead levels that exceed acceptable amounts. Sulfur dioxide concentrations also exceed the World Health Organization emissions standards by ten fold. The vegetation in the surrounding area has been destroyed by acid rain due to high sulfur dioxide emissions.
That's fucking insane. A percentage of rockets do blow up on ascent, and making a container that could survive that and not release highly poisonous waste into the air would weigh much more than the waste itself. It would cost billions to dispose of a few tons.
There are plenty of safer and much, much, cheaper ways to dispose of nuclear waste. Yucca Mountain is pretty ideal, except for those who live nearby.
Engineering isn't basic science. Deciding they'd rather not support a technology is not much to do with supporting science. In fact, if these were economically viable, they wouldn't need government subsidy anyway.
Who should be "in charge of science" then? The church? I guess you mean scientists should be in charge of science. But when it comes to spending money, as when someone actually wants to do science, the government has to pony up. And thus ultimately, politicians have a say; unless you're going to give scientists a blank cheque.
But I don't accept your claim that the Republicans are no worse than Democrats in this respect. Just how they deal with evolution and global warming, at least in Bush's reign, is much worse than anything I can recall a Democratic leadership doing. Perhaps you'd like to give some counter examples?