If someone receives a DMCA notice, and replies asserting that the material in question is not a violation of copyright, the material stays up and the complainer must take them to court to get it taken down. So your description of how it works ("don't even need to get a court involved") is simply incorrect, unless the defendant simply acquiesces.
Except the "defendant" may be your hosting company that will "acquiesce" immediately. A guy tested this a year or so ago, put up several sites with public domain text (hundreds of years old), then sent a complaint claiming he was the copyright owner. Most of the ISPs just shut it down.
The dilemma here is that two values are in conflict...The protection of privacy, in this case: the right not to be associated with some fictive character that has been based on their son's life, and the personal rights of the son that are at protected even post mortem.
Very few countries protect the privacy of the dead. That's why all the nasty stories come out after a celeb dies, but no one can sue for libel. As for the parents, they are not mentioned and it's just their bad luck their surname is distinctive. If the Wikipedia article is true in the facts about Tron, I really don't see anything they have a right to complain about. Should the Hitler family demand their most famous member be referred to as "Adolph H." so as not to embarrass them?
These guys obviously don't know how a search engine works! They all index practically the same things in slightly different ways, and they all only index the select few web sites that have the right META data.
That was true -- 10 years ago. Very soon after "search engine optimisers" started to load up the meta tags with just about anything that might get a search hit. Google now ignores meta tags, or gives them very little weight.
just goes to show that most humans don't really understand the meaning of the words they use.
I'm not bothered by -fold, after all you can fold something in many ways, not just over and over to double; but "decimate" is another numeric word that is generally used in a way almost inverse to the definition.
As far as I know Google Groups doesn't carry binaries of any kind, nor do they carry and of the groups in which you would likely find text porn.
No binaries, but there are groups devoted to text porn. However, Google blocks these unless you change the default setting for "safe search". But you can find text porn easily enough on the web... e.g. on Slashdot if you browse at -1. The paranoia about offending the maiden aunt secretary with graphic content hardly applies to a page of text unless you have a screen reader though.
25 fold and 25 times are not the same thing! how could this not be noticed? has slashdot gone that downhill? for the moronic: fold comes from the idea of folding,..fold is exponential.
Bollocks.
Oxford Dictionary:
-fold/fld/ suff. [OE -fald, -feald = OFris., OS -fald (Du. -voud), (O)HG -falt, ON -faldr, Goth -falps, cogn. w. FOLD v.1 and w. Gk -paltos, -plasios, also w. plo- in haplos, and prob. w. L (sim)plex.] Forming adjs. and advs. from cardinal numerals and adjs. meaning 'many' w. the senses 'multiplied by', 'in an amount multiplied by', 'having so many parts', as in threefold, manifold, etc., and parallel ns. used with a w. the sense 'a specified number or amount of times' (cf. FOLD n.3).
AC wrote : Please go to alt.oyp.sworp or alt.fan.pegas (both contents: kiddie porn) and tell me if that group is acceptable, binaries or not, from a work computer. Want more? I have a whole list of them at a similar or worse level.
On Google Groups there is just a list of messages asking for files. But of course, no files. You could find hundreds of bulletin boards where people post NSFW images. So ban all web access? Banning Google Groups because a few of the 50,000 newsgroups discuss SEX is equally inane.
"You should be fired" wasn't to be taken literally, and as someone in the literature business you are the last person who should be miffed as to my meaning there.
Your literary allusions are obviously far beyond my feeble comprehension.
Just because a hundred people post in the forums demanding spelling to be different in 2006 than it was in 1997 when there was only a hundred people READING, should I?
The proportion of comments on this article that support your "typos are a feature not a bug" philosophy is about 2% at most. You seem to be imagining there is a "silent majority" of readers who agree with you, but are too lazy to say so.
None of has the right to demand you change, but don't pretend that you are listening when you're not.
How can blocking Google Groups be seen as draconian. They have no place in a responsible workplace. They are only filled with warez requests, AOL Me Toos, kiddie porn and hentai anyway. For example as part of my job monitoring proxy logs I have reported a few people for browsing incest stories on groups before we just blocked it outright.
You're lying, or perhaps just confused. There is no "kiddie porn and hentai", or warez accessible via Google Groups, because they don't archive binaries at all. As for text porn, you can find those all over the web as well. You can mandate that users set "safe search" on Google if you insist on nannying them.
Being a corporate IT security at large corporation I can tell you why google groups are blocked. If I am looking at porn on alt.binaries.erotica...
If you really are a "corporate IT guy", you should check before making stupid statements like that. Google Groups DOES NOT ARCHIVE BINARIES. No images, no warez, no viruses.
Wouldn't the labels be better applied to the users who submitted said text?
Yes, but the whole reason we have editrs is to fix such. Taco already explained how he extensively rewrites the articles. It seems distinctly perverse to omit correction of spelling, when one you've started editing it's a couple of keystrokes to run a spellcheck.
Well as an editor you should still realize that you expose yourself to such (valid) criticism when you use such inflamatory language about the competency of writers while simultaneously making the same mistakes you so effortlessly deride them for.
I did not "make the same mistakes". I made a typo in a comment that hardly anyone will see. I wasn't preparing an article to be posted on the front page of a high-traffic website for which I'm responsible. "You should be fired" is not valid criticism. The comments I type in are not part of my professional work, and I can't spend the time on them to polish them as I do for my real work.
In most cases a thousand+ eyeballs vet a story before it hits the main page, and in many cases the story that DOES finally hit the main page has had corrections made.
How is it then that yesterday Slashdot posted two stories about Google buying a radio company. Both articles were on the front page simultaneously. How could 1000 eyes miss that. How could two eyes?
Google Jumps into Radio Advertising Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Wednesday January 18, @06:31PM
Google To Buy Radio Advertising Firm Posted by Zonk on Wednesday January 18, @02:46AM
Every time this happens (a few times a week), the comments are full of people saying they DID email "daddypants" before it went live.
And occasionally I email and find that it bounces with an error similar to the below:
A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
pipe to |/home/pudge/bin/send_remark
generated by pudge@andover.net
Completely lost on you, and any number of readers who chose to contribute to this discussion by commenting on the minutia of the english language and not the substance of the article itself.
Because aside from the spelling and grammar reverse-elitism, the rest is sensible. All of your care in grooming the URLs, but you sneer at any suggestion that spelling and grammar should be corrected, taking much less time.
That point being that you can drop your pants and moon us? That you were abused by an English teacher as a child and are now able to sneer at any elitists who complain about your spelling?
But seriously, WHY DON'T YOU SPELLCHECK ARTICLES?
It takes all of five seconds. Two minutes out of your day.
Taco might note also that the only way we can judge him is by what he writes. If he posts illiterate garbage, many will judge him to be an illiterate, and undeserving of respect.
Slashdot posts, what, maybe two dozen "stories" a day? To support this Slashdot has a crew of paid, therefore professional, "editors". Is it really that much to ask that rudimentary spelling and grammar rules are obeyed?
I, alone, used to post about 80 stories on a news site every day. To spellcheck (some stories were written by non-native speaker, some looked like poor OCR) takes a few SECONDS. Why Taco actually sneers at the very idea I can't understand. They're "not the New York Times". No, the Times publishes about 1000 times as much text as Slashdot does per day. My 8-year-old daughter can do better than the "editors" here. And then he whines that people found other things to complain about. Yeah, if I started taking baths people would just complain about my bad breath, so why bother bathing.
What is so annoying is that these are so EASY to fix, but Taco seems to take a perverse pride in not fixing them. I can't wait till we hear his justifications for repeating the same story twice (eg the Google radio story duped on the front page today).
he ACLU very much supports the right to freely exercise one's religion.
That is not really the case. Was reading of theses stupid lawsuit web sites and they had a lawsuit that the ACLU is helpping to file where they are sueing a local council member. This crime, he sent out, using his own money and time(his wife made them), Christmas cards that showed the Statue of Liberty and a cross on them to friends and acquantices. They are claim it was illegal since he has a seat of authority that it is an official endorsement of a particular religion.
This news story mentions the Council for Secular Humanism, amongst other groups, complaining, but not the ACLU. And no mention of anyone being sued. Do you have a source for your claim?
Once a certain number of users have done that, the two articles in question will be merged, one will be removed or something.
Simplest would just be to leave it live, but take it off the front page. Any threads people were invested in could continue as they received notifications of replies they get a link to the page to read/respond.
Google Jumps into Radio Advertising On January 18th, 2006 with 45 comments Luke PiWalker writes "Just days after Microsoft announced its online advertising entry, Google has announced their entry into the radio industry. Google...
Google To Buy Radio Advertising Firm On January 18th, 2006 with 144 comments M3rk1n_Muffl3y writes "According to the BBC Google is buying US radio advertising firm dMarc Broadcasting for an upfront payment of $102m (£58m), rising...
Now we can order the troops to do a My Lai every day and they will have no regrets
Reminiscent of the quite excellent movie Jacob's Ladder.
But I think Lt Calley and his troops were likely suffering from PTSD already. Perhaps such a treatment would make atrocities less likely. In TFA, the army was unenthused by the idea, saying it would "curb survival instincts" (make them less aggressive, I think that means).
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Except the "defendant" may be your hosting company that will "acquiesce" immediately. A guy tested this a year or so ago, put up several sites with public domain text (hundreds of years old), then sent a complaint claiming he was the copyright owner. Most of the ISPs just shut it down.
Very few countries protect the privacy of the dead. That's why all the nasty stories come out after a celeb dies, but no one can sue for libel. As for the parents, they are not mentioned and it's just their bad luck their surname is distinctive. If the Wikipedia article is true in the facts about Tron, I really don't see anything they have a right to complain about. Should the Hitler family demand their most famous member be referred to as "Adolph H." so as not to embarrass them?
That was true -- 10 years ago. Very soon after "search engine optimisers" started to load up the meta tags with just about anything that might get a search hit. Google now ignores meta tags, or gives them very little weight.
Are you clueless or have I been trolled?
I'm not bothered by -fold, after all you can fold something in many ways, not just over and over to double; but "decimate" is another numeric word that is generally used in a way almost inverse to the definition.
No binaries, but there are groups devoted to text porn. However, Google blocks these unless you change the default setting for "safe search". But you can find text porn easily enough on the web ... e.g. on Slashdot if you browse at -1. The paranoia about offending the maiden aunt secretary with graphic content hardly applies to a page of text unless you have a screen reader though.
Bollocks.
Oxford Dictionary: /fld/ suff. [OE -fald, -feald = OFris., OS -fald (Du. -voud), (O)HG -falt, ON -faldr, Goth -falps, cogn. w. FOLD v.1 and w. Gk -paltos, -plasios, also w. plo- in haplos, and prob. w. L (sim)plex.] Forming adjs. and advs. from cardinal numerals and adjs. meaning 'many' w. the senses 'multiplied by', 'in an amount multiplied by', 'having so many parts', as in threefold, manifold, etc., and parallel ns. used with a w. the sense 'a specified number or amount of times' (cf. FOLD n.3).
-fold
That's the whole idea. Look at the submitter's linked web page.
AC wrote : Please go to alt.oyp.sworp or alt.fan.pegas (both contents: kiddie porn) and tell me if that group is acceptable, binaries or not, from a work computer. Want more? I have a whole list of them at a similar or worse level. On Google Groups there is just a list of messages asking for files. But of course, no files. You could find hundreds of bulletin boards where people post NSFW images. So ban all web access? Banning Google Groups because a few of the 50,000 newsgroups discuss SEX is equally inane.
Your literary allusions are obviously far beyond my feeble comprehension.
Sorry, a joke on those who always say "tuna fish", when there isn't any other kind of "tuna" that I know of.
The proportion of comments on this article that support your "typos are a feature not a bug" philosophy is about 2% at most. You seem to be imagining there is a "silent majority" of readers who agree with you, but are too lazy to say so.
None of has the right to demand you change, but don't pretend that you are listening when you're not.
You're lying, or perhaps just confused. There is no "kiddie porn and hentai", or warez accessible via Google Groups, because they don't archive binaries at all. As for text porn, you can find those all over the web as well. You can mandate that users set "safe search" on Google if you insist on nannying them.
If you really are a "corporate IT guy", you should check before making stupid statements like that. Google Groups DOES NOT ARCHIVE BINARIES. No images, no warez, no viruses.
Yes, but the whole reason we have editrs is to fix such. Taco already explained how he extensively rewrites the articles. It seems distinctly perverse to omit correction of spelling, when one you've started editing it's a couple of keystrokes to run a spellcheck.
I did not "make the same mistakes". I made a typo in a comment that hardly anyone will see. I wasn't preparing an article to be posted on the front page of a high-traffic website for which I'm responsible. "You should be fired" is not valid criticism. The comments I type in are not part of my professional work, and I can't spend the time on them to polish them as I do for my real work.
In most cases a thousand+ eyeballs vet a story before it hits the main page, and in many cases the story that DOES finally hit the main page has had corrections made.
How is it then that yesterday Slashdot posted two stories about Google buying a radio company. Both articles were on the front page simultaneously. How could 1000 eyes miss that. How could two eyes?
Google Jumps into Radio Advertising
Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Wednesday January 18, @06:31PM
Google To Buy Radio Advertising Firm
Posted by Zonk on Wednesday January 18, @02:46AM
Every time this happens (a few times a week), the comments are full of people saying they DID email "daddypants" before it went live.
And occasionally I email and find that it bounces with an error similar to the below:
A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
pipe to |/home/pudge/bin/send_remark
generated by pudge@andover.net
Because aside from the spelling and grammar reverse-elitism, the rest is sensible. All of your care in grooming the URLs, but you sneer at any suggestion that spelling and grammar should be corrected, taking much less time.
That point being that you can drop your pants and moon us? That you were abused by an English teacher as a child and are now able to sneer at any elitists who complain about your spelling?
But seriously, WHY DON'T YOU SPELLCHECK ARTICLES?
It takes all of five seconds. Two minutes out of your day.
Slashdot goes to a readership in the hundreds of thousands. So a little care is justified, and expected, I think.
And while I wouldn't normally mention it, it's "grammar Nazis".
Taco might note also that the only way we can judge him is by what he writes. If he posts illiterate garbage, many will judge him to be an illiterate, and undeserving of respect.
I, alone, used to post about 80 stories on a news site every day. To spellcheck (some stories were written by non-native speaker, some looked like poor OCR) takes a few SECONDS. Why Taco actually sneers at the very idea I can't understand. They're "not the New York Times". No, the Times publishes about 1000 times as much text as Slashdot does per day. My 8-year-old daughter can do better than the "editors" here. And then he whines that people found other things to complain about. Yeah, if I started taking baths people would just complain about my bad breath, so why bother bathing.
What is so annoying is that these are so EASY to fix, but Taco seems to take a perverse pride in not fixing them. I can't wait till we hear his justifications for repeating the same story twice (eg the Google radio story duped on the front page today).
That is not really the case. Was reading of theses stupid lawsuit web sites and they had a lawsuit that the ACLU is helpping to file where they are sueing a local council member. This crime, he sent out, using his own money and time(his wife made them), Christmas cards that showed the Statue of Liberty and a cross on them to friends and acquantices. They are claim it was illegal since he has a seat of authority that it is an official endorsement of a particular religion.
This news story mentions the Council for Secular Humanism, amongst other groups, complaining, but not the ACLU. And no mention of anyone being sued. Do you have a source for your claim?
Simplest would just be to leave it live, but take it off the front page. Any threads people were invested in could continue as they received notifications of replies they get a link to the page to read/respond.
http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=radio
Google Jumps into Radio Advertising
On January 18th, 2006 with 45 comments
Luke PiWalker writes "Just days after Microsoft announced its online advertising entry, Google has announced their entry into the radio industry. Google...
Google To Buy Radio Advertising Firm
On January 18th, 2006 with 144 comments
M3rk1n_Muffl3y writes "According to the BBC Google is buying US radio advertising firm dMarc Broadcasting for an upfront payment of $102m (£58m), rising...
Reminiscent of the quite excellent movie Jacob's Ladder.
But I think Lt Calley and his troops were likely suffering from PTSD already. Perhaps such a treatment would make atrocities less likely. In TFA, the army was unenthused by the idea, saying it would "curb survival instincts" (make them less aggressive, I think that means).