This is the sort of thing where the GNU/Linux distinction becomes significant. It isn't very clear about precisely what is being copied/encorporated, but if they want to easily run software from 'Linux', they will need pieces of both.
For anything remotely shellish, they will likely need the GNU file-utils and text-utils. This would, IMHO, greatly improve Solaris anyway. They already include bash, gcc, and emacs (though they do ship their own shell and compiler as default) and are already planning to include GNOME.
In short, Solaris already includes massive parts of GNU.
Now Linux is a somewhat different issue. Duplicating kernel APIs is pretty new (by Sun of Linux, that is). It shouldn't be that big a deal, though -- there is still POSIX underlying everything.
That's not true. I just put "The Matrix" into my DVD drive. Now how do I copy it to my hard drive without using DeCSS?
dd if=/dev/dvd of=~/matrix.css
Not that it will do you much good -- you need DeCSS to read the image (in any intelligable way).
For that matter, I think you can do mount -t auto/dev/dvd/mnt/dvd
mkdir ~/matrix
cp/mnt/dvd/* ~/matrix/
But again, you need DeCSS to make any sense out of it.
The process of Biological Evolution is the widely observed phenomenon of organisms changing by small mutations, recombination of genes, imprecise reproduction, combined with natural and sexual selection. This process has been observed consistantly under laboratory conditions, and consists of well-understood subproccesses so that its existance is effectively impossible to disbelieve.
Now the theory of evolution is that this process accounts for the developement of all modern biodiversity (except for those species which humans created transgenically). Note: evolutionary theory does not discuss the origin of life on earth, which is still not well understood. This makes evolutionary theory fundamentally historical (a little different from what we think of as science, but most of geology and astronomy are too). All that would be needed to disprove it would be a single well-documented instance of an organism developing in a different way. This observation could be either paleontological or modern.
Now, it is true that such a claim would come under extraordinary skepticism (more than normal for scientific claims), but this is reasonable, because there is such a massive preponderance of evidence for evolution.
What plans do you have to improve compatibility with the non-GNOME world?
For example, do you think it's practical to implement Xaw as a front-end to GTK? That would get OpenOffice integration real fast, among others. What about a unified theme format with KDE? Or a common protocol for copy/paste?
It seems like this sort of stuff would be really helpful -- what's actually in the works?
Of course, it probably won't work on ordinary computers (after all, sticking that onto a SCSI bus would be sort of a waste), but eventually we'll get our hands on this stuff.
All that exists or almost exists in various forms of Lisp. Consider:
intuitive and easy to use IDE -- With a built in interperator, Emacs really shines here.
simplified GUI design and event handling -- I haven't really worked with various lisp gui bindings, but the fundamental issue of event handling (convenient function pointers) is a real strength of Lisp's, so you should be able to write a simple front end to any inconvinient library
advanced error handling -- Yes
advanced object oriented design including multiple inheritance, abstract classes -- I think so, with CLOS, if not, it wouldn't be hard to add.
and garbage collection -- Of course
full support for operator and function overloading --A little awkward, but it can do it.
and portable (at compile-time) across various platforms -- Lisp interperators and compilers are everywhere; do check your libraries, though.
Most of us are laughing at whoever'd run an unknown binary as root, but there may be a hole in this. How many of us would do something like this:
localhost$./configure && make >/dev/null
localhost$./theprogram
Cannot find/usr/share/theprogram/something
exiting
localhost$ cat INSTALL
Install this with./configure && make && make install
Unfortunately, the "make install" is needed.
localhost$ su -
Password:
bash# make install
Making/dev/hda...
All without checking the makefile?
I think I would. Of course, anyone who posted something like this on sourceforge or freshmeat would get reported here pretty fast, but some people would still get hit.
Even assuming that hobbiests are the driving force behing free/open-source software, which I think we are, the economic downturn could still seriously hinder our software developement.
Consider how many tech-workers had dependable jobs which didn't demand all their energy (i.e. left them awake enough to hack when they got home, maybe even let them code unrelated stuff on the job if there was nothing urgent that needed doing). Those positions are growing fewer, and many who considered OSS their real life and what they did at work a side-issue are being forced to switch that around. This could cost us a lot of available labor.
Of course, I could be totally wrong, but maybe something resembling what I said is right.
Even if his succesors surpass him, he'll still be remembered as one of the founders of the graphical novel form. And since he has succeeded in both this ans traditional novels, I'd give him higher odds than any other author I know of for making work the artistic possibilities of upcoming media.
...frightening enough?
Who needs BSD emblems when there are FBI agents watching you everywhere?
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This license forbids Cheapbytes or its ilk from selling copies of Lindows. That's not open source.
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This is the sort of thing where the GNU/Linux distinction becomes significant. It isn't very clear about precisely what is being copied/encorporated, but if they want to easily run software from 'Linux', they will need pieces of both.
For anything remotely shellish, they will likely need the GNU file-utils and text-utils. This would, IMHO, greatly improve Solaris anyway. They already include bash, gcc, and emacs (though they do ship their own shell and compiler as default) and are already planning to include GNOME.
In short, Solaris already includes massive parts of GNU.
Now Linux is a somewhat different issue. Duplicating kernel APIs is pretty new (by Sun of Linux, that is). It shouldn't be that big a deal, though -- there is still POSIX underlying everything.
dd if=/dev/dvd of=~/matrix.css
Not that it will do you much good -- you need DeCSS to read the image (in any intelligable way).
For that matter, I think you can do /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd /mnt/dvd/* ~/matrix/
mount -t auto
mkdir ~/matrix
cp
But again, you need DeCSS to make any sense out of it.
The process of Biological Evolution is the widely observed phenomenon of organisms changing by small mutations, recombination of genes, imprecise reproduction, combined with natural and sexual selection. This process has been observed consistantly under laboratory conditions, and consists of well-understood subproccesses so that its existance is effectively impossible to disbelieve.
Now the theory of evolution is that this process accounts for the developement of all modern biodiversity (except for those species which humans created transgenically). Note: evolutionary theory does not discuss the origin of life on earth, which is still not well understood. This makes evolutionary theory fundamentally historical (a little different from what we think of as science, but most of geology and astronomy are too). All that would be needed to disprove it would be a single well-documented instance of an organism developing in a different way. This observation could be either paleontological or modern.
Now, it is true that such a claim would come under extraordinary skepticism (more than normal for scientific claims), but this is reasonable, because there is such a massive preponderance of evidence for evolution.
What plans do you have to improve compatibility with the non-GNOME world?
For example, do you think it's practical to implement Xaw as a front-end to GTK? That would get OpenOffice integration real fast, among others. What about a unified theme format with KDE? Or a common protocol for copy/paste?
It seems like this sort of stuff would be really helpful -- what's actually in the works?
I'm impressed.
Of course, it probably won't work on ordinary computers (after all, sticking that onto a SCSI bus would be sort of a waste), but eventually we'll get our hands on this stuff.
Anybody dare to ask how much it costs?
Most of us are laughing at whoever'd run an unknown binary as root, but there may be a hole in this. How many of us would do something like this:
./configure && make >/dev/null ./theprogram /usr/share/theprogram/something ./configure && make && make install /dev/hda...
localhost$
localhost$
Cannot find
exiting
localhost$ cat INSTALL
Install this with
Unfortunately, the "make install" is needed.
localhost$ su -
Password:
bash# make install
Making
All without checking the makefile?
I think I would. Of course, anyone who posted something like this on sourceforge or freshmeat would get reported here pretty fast, but some people would still get hit.
an Xmas tree can withstand /.ing. Myabe this shows the power of GNU/Linux in webservering?
Even assuming that hobbiests are the driving force behing free/open-source software, which I think we are, the economic downturn could still seriously hinder our software developement.
Consider how many tech-workers had dependable jobs which didn't demand all their energy (i.e. left them awake enough to hack when they got home, maybe even let them code unrelated stuff on the job if there was nothing urgent that needed doing). Those positions are growing fewer, and many who considered OSS their real life and what they did at work a side-issue are being forced to switch that around. This could cost us a lot of available labor.
Of course, I could be totally wrong, but maybe something resembling what I said is right.
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
Even if his succesors surpass him, he'll still be remembered as one of the founders of the graphical novel form. And since he has succeeded in both this ans traditional novels, I'd give him higher odds than any other author I know of for making work the artistic possibilities of upcoming media.
...frightening enough? Who needs BSD emblems when there are FBI agents watching you everywhere?
The open source definition [opensource.org] clearly states that discrimination against "fields of endevor" is forbidden. Discriminatio against people trying to make money is discrimination.
This license forbids Cheapbytes or its ilk from selling copies of Lindows. That's not open source.