I don't get these arguments, and Jon Stewart is trying desperately to explain to everyone that his show is NOT a news show. What is with this "What Stewart was doing there was classic "do as I say not as I do" issue? What's wrong with that? His show is comedy and he has never represented it as anything other than that. He knows how to ask hardball questions (see Rudy Guilliani interview after the 2nd debate) but that's not his job, it's not his purpose, and it's never what he has made his show out to be.
What he's saying is, all these shows that are purported to be "news" shows, especially the ones on CNN, are not serving the country because they are NOT doing journalism.
Furthermore, I believe the oft-mentioned "American Public" want some real news. They don't want to be sheeple, but they don't have any other choices. The highest rated show on TV? 60 Minutes. Yes, they can have a definate spin to their questions. Yucca mountain reporting comes to mind, and I'm what you'd call an environmentalist, but even I could see they were asking loaded questions and trying to paint the NRC in a bad way. But the point is, for the most part, 60 Minutes tries to do in-depth reporting and tries to be fair, much more fair than other news shows, and they have great ratings. People want it. The country needs it.
The proof is in The Daily Show's high ratings and awards. It's a very sad commentary, and Jon Stewart knows it, that a *lot* of people get their news from his show because
there aren't any better alternatives
. That's sad and Jon is trying to make everyone aware of that. Did you hear the reaction of the crowd during the Crossfire appearance? They were clapping for what Jon was saying. They agree! We want better journalism, and we want it to be on our TV!
We suspect you of doing such-n-such, but you can't seem to prove that you were at your gated community on 9/11/2001 @ 9:12am. What? You say your RFID ID reader wasn't working at your residence? Sorry, citizen, you'll have to come with us.
I'm genuinely curious, what is it you're afraid of? Life is sometimes hard and good people sometimes die. Is it worth living in a police state to somehow keep that one set of crazed morons from blowing something up? Honestly, is it worth it?
How about this: Let's stop pissing people off so that they don't feel like it's worthwhile to blow our stuff up. Then, let's stop blowing up their stuff so that they won't have any reason to retaliate.
There, we're right back where we should have been pre-9/11. Stop being frightened by the boogey-man-terrorist. Oh, he's out there alright, and he's real, but I'm much more worried about the crazies here in our own country, with valid IDs, that think they need to kill their girlfriends when they break up with them, or hold babies out of car windows while driving, or go on a sniper rampage in Washington DC.
You can get struck by lightning, or a car can come careening out of control and smush you into the sidewalk in a New York Minute. Drunk drivers are way more dangerous than any terrorist to you. Police-state Gestapo tacticts are way more dangerous to you than any terrorist.
I prefer more voters than less voters, but ignorant voters is kind-of how we got to where we are today (in addition to the politically motivated disenfranchising as mentioned in a parent post, above).
Versus, say, producing two completely crap prequels, oversaturating the tie-in market, and then not releasing the original versions that many people want to buy.
Actually, what I think really happened is that George accidentally overwrote the original movie when doing his editing.
"Damn! I should have Saved As rather than Saved. Oh, man.. the fans are going to be pissed, that was the only copy of the original movie and I just overwrote it with these edits. What to do... what to dooooo?? *jumping up and down wringing hands*
"I know, I'll just pretend like that's what I meant to do all along! I'm sure they'll understand since *I* am the true Lord of the Sith! " *picks up toy light saber, starts making wha-wha sounds*
Just another example of how the fascists in the world, mainly Republicans, will attempt to modify the debate by focusing on the messenger (be it Bill Moyers, National Guard documents, demonizing photographers who post photos of caskets, etc.) rather than debating the content of the message.
Yes, I do believe it's fascistic to do this. That's where this country is going. In fact, it's practically there already. Go ahead, flame me. If you had any measure of curiosity, skepticism (which is a Good Thing) or intelligence you would see this as well.
See, I'm not even disagreeing with you here, in fact, Bill mentions how he's not proud of some of the things he did during LBJ's administration (granted, it's a LONG speech to read). Instead of debating the merits of the contents of the speech, you jump right into attacking the character of the messenger.
Oh, and don't forget the straw man argument about Dan Rather going public with the NG letters. What, you think Dan Rather made them up himself? He's just a reporter, why don't you debate whether the contents could be true or not? Because you know the answer, that's why.
5: This civilisation will eventually be forced to choose between dying of the cold, or using their time machine to plunder the past for energy.
Ummm, why do they have to plunder the past? Why don't they just "move" to the past and keep on living in some little secluded part of the universe?
Then again, that assumes they even need to have a physical presence... perhaps they're all made of globs of energy themselves and that's what happened to all the energy in the universe to begin with. Perhaps time travel is possible but the civilisation that discovers it realizes the energy drain would kill the universe prematurely and does something about it?
Wild speculation, but certainly as valid as your conclusion...
I hereby welcome our new time-traveling energy-stealing universal overlords.
I suspect there are a lot of people out there like me that don't rent movies very often, so aren't accustomed to dropping by the video store and often forget to return rentals. That's why I joined Netflix and I regularly keep movies for months at a time, until I get the time to watch one of them.
In the long run, it's much more expensive for me to use NetFlix since I only watch a dozen or so movies a year... although I don't keep count and occassionally I go through bouts of getting three movies, watching them and immediately sending them back for more. On the other hand, I was regularly running up $20 late fees for simply forgetting to return movies to BlockBuster AND I never have to leave the house to select or return movies from NetFlix.
I appreciate the convienience and am willing to pay a premium for it.
Dude, you missed the point. Did you follow the part where Moore is talking about the loss of jobs and that the military is the only real way out for most of these people? The implication is that Bush economic policies are killing job prospects and the military is happily moving in and preying on these young people from poor backgrounds. Then, the rich elite, who get the most benefits from Bush economic policies send these poor people to war.
See, the thing that pisses me off most about Republicans is that they don't care about the truth, only the perception of truth. The parent argument is a perfect example of this.
The Iraq war is another. If The President had come to Congress and stated up front that it was time for America to remove Saddam to give the Iraqi people freedom, there would have been a huge debate and this imperialist action would never have been approved. However, today's Iraq war debate keeps coming back to "but we removed this dictator from power. This is good regardless of the missing WMD." It's a LIE and Republicans fall for this misperception.
Seriously, all Republicans should be forced to read "1984" to get a little perspective of truth and government control, then they need to see OutFoxed. Maybe then they'll realize what F9/11 is all about.
Remember when "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" was the phrase of the day in purchasing departments everywhere when referring to PC purchases? Ever hear anyone use it today?
If you remember, Valentine was the only survivor from a doomed Mars mission. He was raised by Martians and since we didn't recognize Martian rights, but we did recognize property rights on Mars, Valentine ended up owning Mars, making him a very wealthy man indeed.
Fun story, so pick it up at the half priced bookstore near you if you haven't read it yet. Thou art God!
Is it just me, or are the rest of you always taken back by just how cheaply these guys are bought for? I mean, $37,000 can be a lot of money for a single person, but for a multi-billion dollar corporation?
Seems like if I were an Evil Beaurocratic Overlord like Orrin Hatch, I'd demand six or seven figures at least... but that's just me.
The annoyance logs on a particular IIALP Server are condensed and forwarded up the IIALP hierarchy to central Root IIALP Servers for central annoyance queries.
Come on... this is a joke, right? After annoyance queries, we can move on to annoyance mining and then the troll database and the lousy-speller's database with new improved SQL (Soundex Query Language for the spelling-impaired).
Ok, so I know this is/., but I've found the best show on TV (to my knowledge) that challenges beliefs on a weekly basis is Joan of Arcadia.
Oh come on, don't flame the non-sci-fi aspect of this show. If you liked some of the challenges that Star Trek TOS gave to the viewer (ok, so a little ham-handedly and with horrible acting), you would probably enjoy JoA.
Hell, I'm a devout athiest and I really enjoy the show. Give it a viewing before you flame me!
Sure, they can try for the X-Prize with dummy passengers with the same mass as two adults, but I wonder... will Paul Allen and Burt Rutan be the passengers? At least for one of the flights?
Now, that would be K00L. Talk about putting your ass where your design and investment is. Foolish from a corporate aspect, but damn, they'd sure show the bigwigs they rub elbows with who has the biggest nuts.
I strongly believe that companies have a duty not only to their owners, but also to their customers, suppliers, and even to their competitors. The last one, the duty to competitors, is a duty to compete based on a better products and services, better marketing, better pricing, a better overall customer experience, etc.
In other words, businesses should behave ethically. Yeah, they teach a class about it in business school. Darl must have been out that day.
My personal opinion is that ethics should drive business, but in W's Kapitalist America, business drives ethics!
More likely, the theater should put IR LEDs pointing back into the audiance to disrupt camcorders. That'd make the most sense and be more reliable / cheaper than sending every teenage usher a nice new pair of night vision goggles.
Sounds like the guys trying to thwart the pirating aren't very knowlegeable themselves about what/how it happens.
I'm sure they are perfectly aware of what/how it happens. This is a publicity stunt for spreading FUD about movie "pirates" and how the industry must battle them.
Does anyone really watch those grainy, low-quality camcorder rips anyway? It's more of a 7337 thing to be the first person in your "warez gang" to have a copy of a particular movie. Most everyone else will either pay the bloody $12 to get the DVD, or download the DVD screener rip.
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What he's saying is, all these shows that are purported to be "news" shows, especially the ones on CNN, are not serving the country because they are NOT doing journalism.
Furthermore, I believe the oft-mentioned "American Public" want some real news. They don't want to be sheeple, but they don't have any other choices. The highest rated show on TV? 60 Minutes. Yes, they can have a definate spin to their questions. Yucca mountain reporting comes to mind, and I'm what you'd call an environmentalist, but even I could see they were asking loaded questions and trying to paint the NRC in a bad way. But the point is, for the most part, 60 Minutes tries to do in-depth reporting and tries to be fair, much more fair than other news shows, and they have great ratings. People want it. The country needs it.
The proof is in The Daily Show's high ratings and awards. It's a very sad commentary, and Jon Stewart knows it, that a *lot* of people get their news from his show because
- there aren't any better alternatives
. That's sad and Jon is trying to make everyone aware of that. Did you hear the reaction of the crowd during the Crossfire appearance? They were clapping for what Jon was saying. They agree! We want better journalism, and we want it to be on our TV!Yeah, but Kerry could have concievably written his own answers, and we all know that Bush probably didn't even see the questions.
Futhermore...
We suspect you of doing such-n-such, but you can't seem to prove that you were at your gated community on 9/11/2001 @ 9:12am. What? You say your RFID ID reader wasn't working at your residence? Sorry, citizen, you'll have to come with us.
I'm genuinely curious, what is it you're afraid of? Life is sometimes hard and good people sometimes die. Is it worth living in a police state to somehow keep that one set of crazed morons from blowing something up? Honestly, is it worth it?
How about this: Let's stop pissing people off so that they don't feel like it's worthwhile to blow our stuff up. Then, let's stop blowing up their stuff so that they won't have any reason to retaliate.
There, we're right back where we should have been pre-9/11. Stop being frightened by the boogey-man-terrorist. Oh, he's out there alright, and he's real, but I'm much more worried about the crazies here in our own country, with valid IDs, that think they need to kill their girlfriends when they break up with them, or hold babies out of car windows while driving, or go on a sniper rampage in Washington DC.
You can get struck by lightning, or a car can come careening out of control and smush you into the sidewalk in a New York Minute. Drunk drivers are way more dangerous than any terrorist to you. Police-state Gestapo tacticts are way more dangerous to you than any terrorist.
The winner will sell it piecemeal on eBay, of course!
Andy Rooney summed it up best.
I prefer more voters than less voters, but ignorant voters is kind-of how we got to where we are today (in addition to the politically motivated disenfranchising as mentioned in a parent post, above).
Meet our newest private astronaut, Neal Armbolt.
Ummm... looks more like Mrs. Neal Armbolt, to me.
This guy has some huge nuts! If you haven't seen the video, you gotta check it out.
It's a joke, people! All of you who responded with the proper meaning of ASP in this context are all Really Smart Internet People. Good for you.
"Damn! I should have Saved As rather than Saved. Oh, man.. the fans are going to be pissed, that was the only copy of the original movie and I just overwrote it with these edits. What to do... what to dooooo?? *jumping up and down wringing hands*
"I know, I'll just pretend like that's what I meant to do all along! I'm sure they'll understand since *I* am the true Lord of the Sith! " *picks up toy light saber, starts making wha-wha sounds*
Just another example of how the fascists in the world, mainly Republicans, will attempt to modify the debate by focusing on the messenger (be it Bill Moyers, National Guard documents, demonizing photographers who post photos of caskets, etc.) rather than debating the content of the message.
Yes, I do believe it's fascistic to do this. That's where this country is going. In fact, it's practically there already. Go ahead, flame me. If you had any measure of curiosity, skepticism (which is a Good Thing) or intelligence you would see this as well.
See, I'm not even disagreeing with you here, in fact, Bill mentions how he's not proud of some of the things he did during LBJ's administration (granted, it's a LONG speech to read). Instead of debating the merits of the contents of the speech, you jump right into attacking the character of the messenger.
Oh, and don't forget the straw man argument about Dan Rather going public with the NG letters. What, you think Dan Rather made them up himself? He's just a reporter, why don't you debate whether the contents could be true or not? Because you know the answer, that's why.
Then again, that assumes they even need to have a physical presence... perhaps they're all made of globs of energy themselves and that's what happened to all the energy in the universe to begin with. Perhaps time travel is possible but the civilisation that discovers it realizes the energy drain would kill the universe prematurely and does something about it?
Wild speculation, but certainly as valid as your conclusion...
I hereby welcome our new time-traveling energy-stealing universal overlords.
I suspect there are a lot of people out there like me that don't rent movies very often, so aren't accustomed to dropping by the video store and often forget to return rentals. That's why I joined Netflix and I regularly keep movies for months at a time, until I get the time to watch one of them.
In the long run, it's much more expensive for me to use NetFlix since I only watch a dozen or so movies a year... although I don't keep count and occassionally I go through bouts of getting three movies, watching them and immediately sending them back for more. On the other hand, I was regularly running up $20 late fees for simply forgetting to return movies to BlockBuster AND I never have to leave the house to select or return movies from NetFlix.
I appreciate the convienience and am willing to pay a premium for it.
Dude, you missed the point. Did you follow the part where Moore is talking about the loss of jobs and that the military is the only real way out for most of these people? The implication is that Bush economic policies are killing job prospects and the military is happily moving in and preying on these young people from poor backgrounds. Then, the rich elite, who get the most benefits from Bush economic policies send these poor people to war.
See, the thing that pisses me off most about Republicans is that they don't care about the truth, only the perception of truth. The parent argument is a perfect example of this.
The Iraq war is another. If The President had come to Congress and stated up front that it was time for America to remove Saddam to give the Iraqi people freedom, there would have been a huge debate and this imperialist action would never have been approved. However, today's Iraq war debate keeps coming back to "but we removed this dictator from power. This is good regardless of the missing WMD." It's a LIE and Republicans fall for this misperception.
Seriously, all Republicans should be forced to read "1984" to get a little perspective of truth and government control, then they need to see OutFoxed. Maybe then they'll realize what F9/11 is all about.
Remember when "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" was the phrase of the day in purchasing departments everywhere when referring to PC purchases? Ever hear anyone use it today?
And even more appropriate is Stranger in a Strange Land.
If you remember, Valentine was the only survivor from a doomed Mars mission. He was raised by Martians and since we didn't recognize Martian rights, but we did recognize property rights on Mars, Valentine ended up owning Mars, making him a very wealthy man indeed.
Fun story, so pick it up at the half priced bookstore near you if you haven't read it yet. Thou art God!
It's called fascism
Read up on it!
Is it just me, or are the rest of you always taken back by just how cheaply these guys are bought for? I mean, $37,000 can be a lot of money for a single person, but for a multi-billion dollar corporation?
Seems like if I were an Evil Beaurocratic Overlord like Orrin Hatch, I'd demand six or seven figures at least... but that's just me.
The annoyance logs on a particular IIALP Server are condensed and forwarded up the IIALP hierarchy to central Root IIALP Servers for central annoyance queries.
Come on... this is a joke, right? After annoyance queries, we can move on to annoyance mining and then the troll database and the lousy-speller's database with new improved SQL (Soundex Query Language for the spelling-impaired).
Annoyance queries? Pshaw.
Ok, so I know this is /., but I've found the best show on TV (to my knowledge) that challenges beliefs on a weekly basis is Joan of Arcadia.
Oh come on, don't flame the non-sci-fi aspect of this show. If you liked some of the challenges that Star Trek TOS gave to the viewer (ok, so a little ham-handedly and with horrible acting), you would probably enjoy JoA.
Hell, I'm a devout athiest and I really enjoy the show. Give it a viewing before you flame me!
Ok, if it helps, the main character is hot.
Sure, they can try for the X-Prize with dummy passengers with the same mass as two adults, but I wonder... will Paul Allen and Burt Rutan be the passengers? At least for one of the flights?
Now, that would be K00L. Talk about putting your ass where your design and investment is. Foolish from a corporate aspect, but damn, they'd sure show the bigwigs they rub elbows with who has the biggest nuts.
I strongly believe that companies have a duty not only to their owners, but also to their customers, suppliers, and even to their competitors. The last one, the duty to competitors, is a duty to compete based on a better products and services, better marketing, better pricing, a better overall customer experience, etc.
In other words, businesses should behave ethically. Yeah, they teach a class about it in business school. Darl must have been out that day.
My personal opinion is that ethics should drive business, but in W's Kapitalist America, business drives ethics!
More likely, the theater should put IR LEDs pointing back into the audiance to disrupt camcorders. That'd make the most sense and be more reliable / cheaper than sending every teenage usher a nice new pair of night vision goggles.
Sounds like the guys trying to thwart the pirating aren't very knowlegeable themselves about what/how it happens.
I'm sure they are perfectly aware of what/how it happens. This is a publicity stunt for spreading FUD about movie "pirates" and how the industry must battle them.
Does anyone really watch those grainy, low-quality camcorder rips anyway? It's more of a 7337 thing to be the first person in your "warez gang" to have a copy of a particular movie. Most everyone else will either pay the bloody $12 to get the DVD, or download the DVD screener rip.
you run Windows on your cluster and Linux on your desktop!