lack of open source drivers or even just hardware specs. What exactly about that is upsetting you?
Trying to blame the company for the troubles. They don't have any obligation to release any of their specs if they don't want to.
I had 164LX Alpha in 90s. I tried running Linux on it and yes it worked but it didn't work too well. Did I complain to DEC that they're not doing enough to support Linux? No. Instead, I bought DEC's Unix and was very content with it.
Ok. I see now. I just didn't realize before that standards organizations like IEEE are just stagnating the development. What a revelation! How far our technology would have developed already if we just didn't hang on to standards. Who the hell needs consistency anyway?
a lousy GUI that will remain lousy forever
Linux desktop will remain lousy as long as the distro manufacturers refuse to create a common set of rules for a standard Linux application toolkit.
Having such a standard would not stop a pro like you from reconfiguring your desktop to your liking, but it would make the initial desktop look the same on every distro and thus easily adapted by a newbie.
On a more personal note, the mishmash of different toolkits (run xawtv and some kde applications side by side and you'll see what I mean) just makes the GUI look so goddamn ugly and cumbersome to use ("now did I move the scrollbar in this application with the mouse middle button or with the left?" etc.).
What good is acceptance if it means a ton of binary only drivers? Acceptance is useless if you lose the biggest advantage linux has: free (speach) SOURCECODE!!!
And what good is having free but sub-par reverse engineered drivers that no-one except for the most idealistic zealots would care to use voluntarily?
As always, taking the middle ground is the best option. Sure, keep Linux core free but don't stop people and companies from interfacing it with binary only modules.
Give people the freedom to choose. If you are not willing to risk having them to choose "the wrong option" you're not giving them freedom at all.
You know, if the installer cannot find pre-compiled drivers for your card, it will compile them for you. How's that for service?
most importantly you don't know what the driver is doing on your system
Yeah, right. Have you ever read through the code of your LAN card driver, too? How about the USB controller and SCSI-card? Most important of all, how many driver exploits have you heard of either in Windows or Linux?
should we jail the French who sold Mirage fighters to Saddam? Or perhaps the Soviets who gave him loans?
Yes. Whenever you can make a reasonable case.
The point is that a case can only be made in a court of justice and because no nation can be above another, we need an international court of justice. I don't understand why the international court of justice seems to be synonymous to a kangoroo court in the minds of so many people. There is a well established and fair tradition of justice in other countries too, you know.
What I find abhorrent is the idea that Americans should be made immune from prosecution because, after all, "we're the good guys". That's like saying that cops or lawyers should not be prosecuted like an ordinary citizen because, after all, they are the good guys.
That is precisely what I mean. Furthering a genocide, either by action, speech or silence ("To sin by silence, makes cowards of us all"), should be a punishable crime.
I've never quite understood the US position on the international court: "we cannot accept this because our citizens might be tried on it on political grounds". That implicitly reads that "There is no justice outside the American system". An unbelievably arrogant stance.
Why are other nations, such as vehemently proud and nationalistic France, ready to go with the international court then?
Are you running Linux or Windows? Linux fonts are notoriously bad even with the FreeType kind of configuration.
Another possibility is that you're trying to run a ridiculous resolution. LCDs are great if you want to have an ultra stable screen. If you want a lot of real screen estate, you should be a CRT.
What's your point? That we should just give up and settle with what we've got now because it is the best the human race can achieve? What we have now is the pinnacle of our civilization?
I had parents like that. Don't try too hard to achieve anything worthwhile - you'll only get disappointed when you fail.
Considering how ineffective they are in running everything else
I would have thought that if you value individual freedoms you would want the government to be ineffective....
That's my point of view. Drop the border control and demolish nation states. Create a world government that's just too fucking big and ineffective to mess around with the individuals.
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I'm sure they would since the calculations would prove the radiation exposure lethal...
Sure, funnyman. Show me the calculations that show that a human being could survive exposure to radiation outside the van Allen belts.
And MS Office is not a de facto standard?
I just don't get this attitude. So it's the WORLD that should change to accommodate the views held by the free software camp
computer displaying that "Lovely blue screen"...
Blue screen? What blue screen? Ever since I installed W2K I have never seen the blue screen again.
Heh. Just listen to yourself. You are just making new Linux converts by the bushel there with that attitude...
Good job, jackass.
Trying to blame the company for the troubles. They don't have any obligation to release any of their specs if they don't want to.
I had 164LX Alpha in 90s. I tried running Linux on it and yes it worked but it didn't work too well. Did I complain to DEC that they're not doing enough to support Linux? No. Instead, I bought DEC's Unix and was very content with it.
I think he's trying to do the Neo and make the reality to conform to his will.
Ok. I see now. I just didn't realize before that standards organizations like IEEE are just stagnating the development. What a revelation! How far our technology would have developed already if we just didn't hang on to standards. Who the hell needs consistency anyway?
a lousy GUI that will remain lousy forever
Linux desktop will remain lousy as long as the distro manufacturers refuse to create a common set of rules for a standard Linux application toolkit.
Having such a standard would not stop a pro like you from reconfiguring your desktop to your liking, but it would make the initial desktop look the same on every distro and thus easily adapted by a newbie.
On a more personal note, the mishmash of different toolkits (run xawtv and some kde applications side by side and you'll see what I mean) just makes the GUI look so goddamn ugly and cumbersome to use ("now did I move the scrollbar in this application with the mouse middle button or with the left?" etc.).
So you like it when every friggin' applications uses its own toolkit? Hello? Does consistency mean anything to you?
If he's using Mac, nVidia has perfect drivers for it. What he wants is a fringe system: Mac and Linux.
This is awesome - awesome to the max!
And it's somehow nVidia's fault that they don't cater to every fringe configuration?
And what good is having free but sub-par reverse engineered drivers that no-one except for the most idealistic zealots would care to use voluntarily?
As always, taking the middle ground is the best option. Sure, keep Linux core free but don't stop people and companies from interfacing it with binary only modules.
Give people the freedom to choose. If you are not willing to risk having them to choose "the wrong option" you're not giving them freedom at all.
So? It works even though NVidia didn't compile it for you. That was your original gripe.
Yes it did. I get proper OpenGL acceleration on my Linux box now.
not-quite-obscure-nividia-just-didnt-bother-compil ing-their-driver-for-it
You know, if the installer cannot find pre-compiled drivers for your card, it will compile them for you. How's that for service?
most importantly you don't know what the driver is doing on your system
Yeah, right. Have you ever read through the code of your LAN card driver, too? How about the USB controller and SCSI-card? Most important of all, how many driver exploits have you heard of either in Windows or Linux?
Maybe it's because that corporation provides services like an on-site support contract?
Does it still crash when it's trying to view a PDF document using Adobe Acrobat 6.0 (full version)?
Yes. Whenever you can make a reasonable case.
The point is that a case can only be made in a court of justice and because no nation can be above another, we need an international court of justice. I don't understand why the international court of justice seems to be synonymous to a kangoroo court in the minds of so many people. There is a well established and fair tradition of justice in other countries too, you know.
What I find abhorrent is the idea that Americans should be made immune from prosecution because, after all, "we're the good guys". That's like saying that cops or lawyers should not be prosecuted like an ordinary citizen because, after all, they are the good guys.
I wouldn't mind that as long as the execs of the UK companies/politicians who built Falluja 2 and US companies/politicians who supplied Iraq with chemical/biological weapons are dealth with as well.
So your concept of freedom of speech does not extend to "US bashers" (="Old Europe" and those who dare to question the great leader), eh?
You flunked history, didn't you?
What history? Is it ok to yell "fire" in a crowded theatre? No? So the freedom of speech is not absolute.
Yes.
That is precisely what I mean. Furthering a genocide, either by action, speech or silence ("To sin by silence, makes cowards of us all"), should be a punishable crime.
I've never quite understood the US position on the international court: "we cannot accept this because our citizens might be tried on it on political grounds". That implicitly reads that "There is no justice outside the American system". An unbelievably arrogant stance.
Why are other nations, such as vehemently proud and nationalistic France, ready to go with the international court then?
Another possibility is that you're trying to run a ridiculous resolution. LCDs are great if you want to have an ultra stable screen. If you want a lot of real screen estate, you should be a CRT.
Well, for those who care about the crew, I'm pleased to report that the whereabouts of Cowboy Neal are now known.
I had parents like that. Don't try too hard to achieve anything worthwhile - you'll only get disappointed when you fail.
I ignored them. I ignore you.
I would have thought that if you value individual freedoms you would want the government to be ineffective....
That's my point of view. Drop the border control and demolish nation states. Create a world government that's just too fucking big and ineffective to mess around with the individuals.